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LL Cool J To Diss Jay Z?

by JOKESTA

MONDAY SEPTEMBER 24, 2007

Uh oh, LL might be throwing more direct shots at Def Jam Pres, Jay Z. The rapper, who has had friction with the President after his last album didn’t meet his expectations on the charts, has been throwing subliminals towards Jay in numerous tracks.

However, according to the video below, it looks like the self proclaimed G.O.A.T is about to step back in the ring.

Spotted via Nahright.com
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neeko

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neeko
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— 9 months ago

LOL good luck ll

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CapCityQ

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CapCityQ
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— 9 months ago

wha the video have to do wit jay???

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REASON

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REASON
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— 9 months ago

i got love for a ll but beefing jay this i dont know, yeah the clip basically refers to jay towards the end of the clip "paper cats" milky" "doin your job".Listen to the i get money remix JAY says is the goat so LL took that to heart.THIS WILL BE FUN

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BIG J L

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BIG J L
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— 9 months ago

Another Crybaby. But he can't do to jay what he did to Canibus. He lettin 50 go to his head. the new generation ain't into LL the rapper thats why his shit didn't sell.

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Madone

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Madone
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— 9 months ago

L’s mad because when he was on top (circa 1991-94) and known as a “battle mc”, Clark Kent, Dame Dash and Hov would be relentless in tracking Mr. Smith down at various night clubs, show venues and studios for the sole purpose of having Jay and L battle. On several occasions, they in fact did meet and battle, each time resulting in Jay ripping L a new one [||]. The very last battle (in which I was fortunate enough to witness), after L took another beating, he left the scene saying, “Yo kid you’re hot, but I’m the only one standing here with a record deal, so tough cookies. In fact, make sure to check the heat that I’m bringing out on my next album (”14 Shots To The Dome”) when it drops.” Now that he has to answer to that very same “kid”, AND selling brick numbers, the “G.O.A.T.’s” ego must be taking a severe ass whipping. What I’m confused about is how L is claiming these new cats and “paper” rappers must not know about his pedigree and how he’s gonna bring it? How the eff in the hell is dude gonna bring it to Jay 13 years later after his prime when he couldn’t dent dude when he was on top? He’s right, it’s gonna be a funny winter.

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makaveli1490

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makaveli1490
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— 9 months ago

YALL NIGGAS NEED TO DO UR RESEARCH

AT THE END OF THE VIDEO, HE SAID "WHEN U DID THAT VERSE, U SHOULD HAVE JUST BEEN DOING UR JOB"

REFERRING TO JAY VERSE ON "I GET MONEY" REMIX

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Madone

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Madone
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— 9 months ago

LL don't want know problems. Samething mase got, he can get!

Ride or Die:

Aiyyo fuck y'all, niggaz I crush y'all, rush y'all
with the four drawn and I touch y'all, plus y'all
little motherfuckers ain't ready for war
I seen your team in a Chrysler before, but I forgot?
The same rules apply, don't try to switch up your style
Y'all niggaz is pumpkin pie, and that's plain as I
much better than you cat, shocked when I got the news that
this nigga ready for war, well where that fool at?
I bruise wack rap niggaz severely punish them
Especially those that get fucked for they publishing, heh
Always gotta be the weakest nigga out the crew
I probably make more money off yo' album, than you
You see the respect I get everytime I come through
Check your own videos, you'll always be number two
Niggaz talkin real greasy on them R&B records
but I'm platinum a million times nigga, check the credits
S. Carter, ghost writer, and for the right price
I can even make YO' shit tighter
I roast niggaz like ya, smoke niggaz like ya
Take your little jewels and put the toast to niggaz like ya
You know what the fuck we do and why we done it
How I, bring it to niggaz who, probably want it
Keep playin, you gon' find me in your lobby blunted
And I don't even smoke nigga, ain't no joke
Niggaz cat fightin with Jigga, kickin sneak shit
Makin little tapes, but keepin it secret
Cause I kick that deep shit, that divide your peeps shit
That "I don't know if you fuckin with Jigga
spittin that weak shit"

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locksmith

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locksmith
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— 9 months ago

ll is so wak right now everything he touches turns to shit clothing line is wak his singles dont move he gotta quit hes like 50 still tryin to do sumtin damn nigga switch your hustle

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GLITCH

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GLITCH
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— 9 months ago

jay already said he aint gon to rap about him.. he'll give him a pass bceasue of what cool j is in the game outa respect (legend ) but if cool j keeps this up jay-z said he gone end his career

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locksmith

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locksmith
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— 9 months ago

plus everyone else under jay did well i think it has to do wit the quality of his music

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nevachange

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nevachange
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— 9 months ago

dis nigga might be lookin for an easy way outta rap, cuz jay will finish him.......he mad cuz jay did wut he did in only 8 years and got more money than him and run def jam....

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GirsyMan

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GirsyMan
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— 9 months ago

fuck jay-z,,,he iz wake,,,and u ppl just need to put his ballz out of your mouth!!!
Yeah and LL iz also wake,so it's gonna be beef beetwen two wakest rappers!!!Vsex na xui!!!!

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WackestRapper

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WackestRapper
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— 9 months ago

NO IM THA WACKEST RAPPER EVA

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nevachange — 7 minutes ago
dis nigga might be lookin for an easy way outta rap, cuz jay will finish him.......he mad cuz jay did wut he did in only 8 years and got more money than him and run def jam....

THIS N****A IS SPEAKIN THE TRUTH!!!

LL NEED 2 STOP RAPPING THAT DUDE IS WHACK 4 REAL!!

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SOUTH C3NTRA.L

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— 9 months ago

DO WUT U DO L.L...UR NOT JIGGA,,NOR WOULD U EVER BE...SO STOP THROWING ROC'S AT THE THRONE...U CLONE...JAY SAID IT!! IN THE I GET MONEY REMIX..IM THE GOAT ALREADY...FUCC OUTTA HERE SITCOM COOL JAY...JIGGA IS THE PRESIDENT!! PEACE

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SELASGV5626LOCO
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HMMMMM... LL COO WITH THE SNITCH?????? JAY DID THE REMIX WITH THE SNITCH????? HMMM WHATS REALLY GOING ON.... ALL I KNOW IS THIS LL WILL DESTROY JAY I'M AN OLD SCHOOL DUDE AND LL WILL DESTROY JAY..... JAY KNOWS IT!!!!!! YOU SEE THIS IS WHAT HIP HOP HAS COME TO WACK ASS MUSIC BY WACK ASS ARTISTS.. LOOK WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE WHOLE KRS-ONE AND NELLY THING.... POINT PROVEN NELLY SUX AND YOU KNOW WHAT HIP HOP IZ DEAD BUT THAT REAL GANGSTA SHIT AIN'T AND IF YOU WANT THAT REAL GANGSTA SHIT COME TO THE WEST AND GET SOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"LL NEED 2 STOP RAPPING THAT DUDE IS WHACK 4 REAL!!"

YOU MUST HAVE NEVER HEARD LL BATTLE RAP OR HEARD A DISS TRACK BY HIM!!!!!!

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owtthugz

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owtthugz
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— 9 months ago

yea battle two many years ago nikka played out now

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King Hova
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This Shit Gunna Be Funny

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ChinoXL

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ChinoXL
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— 9 months ago

u young niggas dont know shit and if yall think this go be a cake walk of a battle for jay-z yall got another thing coming.

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pharell9408

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pharell9408
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— 9 months ago

i respect ll and everything...but...this is gonna be a cake walk for jay..that is iff he decides to bring takeover jay out

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ChinoXL

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ChinoXL
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— 9 months ago

u are wrong ll go give jay that business

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Badboykilla
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what verse is he talking about at 10 seconds before the end ?????????

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ChinoXL

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ChinoXL
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the i get money remix

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EAzyy
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he ddnt mention jigga in that video....but it would be funny 2 see how this speculation is gonna unfold

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Havana2Bueno

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Havana2Bueno
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i dunno why everyone thing jay is unbeatable in beef.
He lost the biggest beef of his career with Nas,pac would of killed him if he had the chance to finish the beef,and prodigy burnt him.

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dakiddpryme
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— 9 months ago

prodigy could'nt burn jay even if he had a built in flamethrower, the first two kinda relevant but prodigy? tell me it was a joke son plz

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Evil_Dre
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— 9 months ago

Jay Lost to Nas,but he didn't lose shit to Pac.Jay was just getting into the game when Pac was talking shit about him and he was die before Jay even got his feet wet.That not a lost dummy, you actually have to battle someone to beat them, Pac didn't battle Jay.Also, try working on your spelling,it not that hard to used the right word or the right spelling of a word.

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Sargon
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that verse..I'm already the GOAT ,I'm on my way to a BILLY. I think jay throw some jabs on the new single blue magic... listen to it again.

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hova_da_god

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hova_da_god
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— 9 months ago

I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT NONE OF YALL CATS SAY... LL HAS BEEN DONE SINCE THE MID 90'S... JAY IS STILL IN HIS PRIME... BUT ITS LIKE JAY SAID "EVERYONE ALWAYS WANNA GO AT THE TOP OF THE BRASS".... JAY IS THE G.O.A.T.... POINT BLANK PERIOD... NOW I RESPECT LL BEACAUSE HE IS A LEGEND BUT HE IS NOT THE G.O.A.T.... JAY ALREADY MURKED HIS ASS WIT A LINE THAT WASNT EVEN THAT GREAT BUT IT STILL MURKED LL'S WEAK ASS... "I'M ALREADY THE G.O.A.T./ NEXT STOP IS THE BILLI"... ITS STILL COLD AS HELL THOUGH....

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hova_da_god

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hova_da_god
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— 9 months ago

BUT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT ARGUE THAT JAY WON THAT NAS BATTLE... HONESTLY THOUGH... NAS GOT HIM WIT ETHER... BUT JAY HURT NAS WHERE IT COUNTS WIT THE "FUCKIN YA WIFE IN THE BACK OF YA JEEP/ AND I LEFT CONDOMS ON YA BABY SEAT"... SO I WOULD SAY JAY GOT HIM CAUSE JAY FUCKED HIS WIFE AND IF YOU REALLY WANNA HIT EM WHERE IT HURTS THE MOST, THEN JAY GOT HIM...

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Havana2Bueno

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Havana2Bueno
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— 9 months ago

even jay admitted he lost,i can't rememeber the line but he said if losing is winning then he won in the longrun or some shit.

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SHUTYOURMOUTH

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SHUTYOURMOUTH
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— 9 months ago

I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THE JAY-Z WORSHIP THAT GOES ON IN HERE.............
IF YOU WANNA TALK WASHED UP LOOK RIGHT AT JAY-Z BLUE MAGIC IS GARBAGE!
HIS LAST ALBUM WAS GARBAGE!
ALL DEF JAM ACTS THAT WERE OUT IN THE 90S THAT HAVE SOLID FAN BASES ALL FLOPPED BECAUSE JAY-Z DOESNT LIKE THERE MUSIC AND DOESNT FEEL THAT THEY DESERVE THE MONEY AND PROMOTION THAT THE ARTIST HE HAND PICKED DESERVE THATS NOT HOW YOU RUN A COMPANY....
THATS WHAT LL IS TIGHT ABOUT.....DID ANYONE IN HERE EVEN KNOW HE PUT OUT AN ALBULM THIS YEAR? WHAT ABOUT METHOD MAN? AND REDMAN....YALL DONT SEE THE BIG PICTURE AT ALL

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Madone

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Madone
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— 9 months ago

Lets be real. LL got more push on his 1st album (The Definion)w/ Jay-z as president of Def jam, than most of their artists. LL got 3 videos off that album, when other artists only get one before the album drops and one after if its doing good...and he still went "double wood"....and he wants to blame hov for it, c'mon. LL is no-longer hot. Like Flex said "Sometimes the public don't want you".

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GuessWhosBack

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GuessWhosBack
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— 9 months ago

u niggas show some respect to LL and get off jay-z's dick..
Mama said knock you out, Doin it,Phenomenon... >>>> any Jay-Z Song

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SHUTYOURMOUTH

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SHUTYOURMOUTH
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— 9 months ago

oh and how the fuck is jay-z the greatest of all time when 50 sold more records than him? LL has had a 20year run you cant possibly compare the 2

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hova_da_god

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hova_da_god
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— 9 months ago

PLEASE DONT FUCKIN TALK RECORD SALES.... 50 IS WACK AS FUCK.... FOR YOU TO EVEN PUT 50'S NAME IN THE SAME BREATH AS JAY IS FUCKIN CRAZY... BUT STILL I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT NONE OF YOU CATS SAY ON THIS SITE... JAY= THE G.O.A.T.... REAL TALK...

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hova_da_god

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AND JUST BECAUSE LL HAS BEEN RAPPIN FOR 20 YEARS DONT MAKE HIM GOOD... HE HAS BEEN WASHED UP FOR YEARS... AT LEAST JAY CAN ACTUALLY PUT OUT SOMETHIN THAT IS BETTER THAN 99.99 PERCENT OF EVERYTHING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW... AND I TAKE BACK WHAT I SAID... NAS AND JAY=G.O.A.T...

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hova_da_god

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hova_da_god
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— 9 months ago

"THE GAMES FUCKED/ NIGGAZ BEATS IS BANGIN/ NIGGA YA HOOKS DID IT/ YOUR LYRICS DIDNT/ YOUR GANGSTA LOOK DID IT/ SO I WOULD WRITE IT IF YALL COULD GET IT/ BEIN INTRICATE/ I GUESS I WOULD CRITICS"... THAT RIGHT THERE KILLS ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT IS OUT... REAL MUTHA FUCKIN TALK.....

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hova_da_god

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hova_da_god
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— 9 months ago

****"THE GAMES FUCKED UP/****

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titolopez1

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titolopez1
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— 9 months ago

somebody tell that reporter to get off LL's jock!

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Madone

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Madone
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— 9 months ago

Lets be real. LL got more push on his 1st album (The Definion)w/ Jay-z as president of Def jam, than most of their artists. LL got 3 videos off that album, when other artists only get one before the album drops and one after if its doing good...and he still went "double wood"....and he wants to blame hov for it, c'mon. LL is no-longer hot. Like Flex said "Sometimes the public don't want you".

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SHUTYOURMOUTH

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— 9 months ago

its obvious theres is no talking to you "hova da god"
you are a devout jay-z worshiper

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hova_da_god

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— 9 months ago

REAL TALK THOUGH... ITS ONLY MY OPINION AND THE ONLY REASON JAY IS THE GREATEST TO ME IS CAUSE HE INSPIRES ME... WHEN I HEAR LINES LIKE THE ONES I POSTED ABOVE I GET INSPIRED... DONT NO OTHER MC DO THAT TO ME EXCEPT NAS... IT INSPIRES ME TO MAKE BEATS AND TO WRITE... BUT LIKE I SAID BEFORE I RESPECT LL BUT I JUST DONT THINK HE SHOULD GO AT JAY... AND IF HE DOES GO AT JAY... FOR WHAT.. IT AINT LIKE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE MORE INTERESTED IN HIS MUSIC... ITS LIKE THAT CAT SAID EARLIER.. HE DOESNT APPEAL TO ANY TYPE OF AUDIENCE ANY MORE...

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hova_da_god

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— 9 months ago

AND I AINT NO "WORSHIPER".... JUST PASSIONATE ABOUT MY MUSIC....

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SHUTYOURMOUTH

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— 9 months ago

i never saw one poster on the street for that album not a single one I never saw a commercial nothing at all i dont watch videos so I wont speak on that what ever I just get a little uneasy when people blatantly worship jay-z when I have never been that much of a fan he has alot of good records but he is not that great for real

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hova_da_god

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— 9 months ago

AND THATS YOUR OPINION... THATS COOL... BUT YOU MIGHT FEEL A CERTAIN WAY ABOUT ANOTHER ARTIST LIKE I FEEL ABOUT JAY AND NAS... ITS NO DIFFERENT... JUST DIFFERENT PEOPLE... AND THE SAME GOES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT LIL WAYNE... THERE IS NO REASONING WIT SOMEONE WHO IS PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK IS GREAT MUSIC... ITS ALL JUST OPINIONS ANYWAY... THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG ONE.... REAL TALK...

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SHUTYOURMOUTH

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— 9 months ago

I have to agree with that you are totally right......

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hova_da_god

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— 9 months ago

AND ON THAT NOTE.... IF THEY ARE GONNA BATTLE THEN LET IT BE A GOOD ONE... TWO TITANS GOIN AT IT.. MAY THE BEST MC WIN....

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— 9 months ago

jay has a new album,if he as clever as everyone says he is,he will get involved with the havoc kanye beef and re-open the mobb beef cos that shit never really finished,and he will diss ll.if he does that and does it well his buzz will be big and he will drop the biggest selling album of the year.

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— 9 months ago

You're right! and he will. He smacks Mobb Deep around on every album. But only a little on Kingdom Come. They'll get spanked on American Gangster.

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hova_da_god
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— 9 months ago

I AGREE WIT THAT... I WANNA SEE HIM FINISH OFF THE MOBB ONCE AND FOR ALL.... I THINK EVERYONE IS GETTIN TIRED OF HEARIN HAVOC TALK HIS LIL BULLSHIT...

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— 9 months ago

Theres alot of disrespectful young mafuckas on this site. How can u diss a living legend like LL. LL held def jam together when they wasnt putting out hitz, LL was they go to man, way before there was a jayz or before most of u cats were born. If there wasnt an LL there wouldnt be a def jam for Jayz to be president of. For that reason all of LL's music should be top priority. Jayz need to get slapped around real good. Eat em up L.

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— 9 months ago

LL was great in his time.....but he's not timeless. His music show's that. People are not interested in him.....eventually that happens to all rappers, some faster than others. What Jay-z did in the game w/ the ROC is why he got the job and not LL. What did LL ever do, in business, that makes him deserve that job? Cause thats what he's mad at....just look at his album's numbers. He went platinum on just about everyone....but made no money. He doesn't own his publishing or royalties. To his credit, he tried to restructure his contract (B 4 Hove got there), and couldn't get it done......but that was only after he saw the deals that people like Hov was getting. I like LL....but hov is great for more than just rap.

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— 9 months ago

I WAS BORN IN 76 SO I KNOW BOUT LL'S MUSIC... AND I AINT NEVER SAY HE WASNT GREAT.. I SAID HE IS A LEGEND BUT TO ME HE AINT THE G.O.A.T... AND IF HE WOULD STOP MAKIN THOSE FRUITY ASS SONGS LIKE THE ONES HE DOES WITH J.LO THEN MAYBE HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO MOVE SOME UNITS....

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— 9 months ago

not to keep arguing but those fruity songs actually sell the records just like that fruity ass shit with jay and beyonce...... pop records sell records and thats the truth! I really think most of the music coming out right now sucks.... I really feel like all of the giants are really lazy now and just put out whatever and expect all of just just buy it e.g. jayz latest album 50's latest album shit is just plain whack! dudes in the south are putting there heart in it and it shows!

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— 9 months ago

Maybe dudes in the south need to stop putting "there heart into", because all they are doing is making trash music.Maybe if they started putting their brains into, we wouldn't get so many song with idiotic lyrics, child like rhyming and weird animal noises.Also, they might want to stop making the stupid dances to go along with their stupid songs, I think the fad has run it's course.

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TheAlmightyMicB
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— 9 months ago

YO WHAT VERSE IS LL TALKIN ABOUT? THAT WOULD BE FUNNY IF HE TALKIN BOUT WATCH WHAT U SAY

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TheAlmightyMicB

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TheAlmightyMicB
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— 9 months ago

OK LL IS TALKIN ABOUT THE I GET MONEY REMIX VERSE IF U WANNA HEAR JAY-Z RESPOND CHECK OUT ANGIE MARTINEZ' MYSPACE PAGE SHE GOT THE CALL ON THERE

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hova_da_god

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hova_da_god
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— 9 months ago

OH I AGREE... LIKE WIT JAY'S LAST ALBUM... IF ALL HIS SONGS WOULD HAVE SOUNDED LIKE TRACK #1... THE PRELUDE... HIS ALBUM WOULD HAVE BEEN DEEMED ANOTHER CLASSIC BUT HE WANTED TO DO THAT OTHER SHIT... I DONT LISTEN TO THE RADIO JOINTS CAUSE I HATE THAT SHIT... AND TO ME ALL WE HAVE NOW WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW MC'S IS BULLSHIT THROWAWAY RINGTONE RAP AND RAPPERS... AND TO BE PLAIN HONEST.. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A COUPLE CATS ALOT OF THAT THROWAWAY RINGTONE RAP IS COMIN OUT THE SOUTH...

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hova_da_god

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— 9 months ago

HE IS TALKIN BOUT THE "I GET MONEY REMIX"

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Madone

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Madone
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— 9 months ago

LL was great in his time.....but he's not timeless. His music show's that. People are not interested in him.....eventually that happens to all rappers, some faster than others. What Jay-z did in the game w/ the ROC is why he got the job and not LL. What did LL ever do, in business, that makes him deserve that job? Cause thats what he's mad at....just look at his album's numbers. He went platinum on just about everyone....but made no money. He doesn't own his publishing or royalties. To his credit, he tried to restructure his contract (B 4 Hov got there), and couldn't get it done......but that was only after he saw the deals that people like Hov was getting. I like LL....but hov is great for more than just rap.

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— 9 months ago

ITS FUNNY HOW ONLY JAY-Z GETS THE CREDIT FOR ROC-A-FELLA HE DIDNT DO THAT ALONE HE HAD TWO VERY SMART PEOPLE BEHIND HIM THAT HE LEFT IN THE DUST AS SOON AS HE FIGURED HE COULD LL IS ONE PERSON JAY-Z HAD A TEAM! BUT IM GONNA LEAVE THIS SHIT ALONE NOW IM INVESTING WAY TO MUCH TIME HERE
PEACE!

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To everyone stating his albums dont sell, he doesnt stand the test of time etc. You guys need to do hip hop the biggest favor, shut the fuck up. 12 Albums in. Not 5, 12. Stop riding the dick and realize hes not stating it in the form of malice, hes telling it how it is.

LL is not only speaking some sense, he is also speaking truth. Jay is a great rapper, I will never state anything against such, but he is also the president of a record label. This is not Roc-A-Fella, this is Def Jam, where he needs to act as president and be busy enough with other projects to the point he cannot do his own. I respect the hustle Jay has and keeps on grinding with his music, but he needs to just lay back relax and make his presidential run great. Let other people do their thing, as his ass doesnt need the money and is already up there with the greats.

Alot of you cats take this shit so personal when it has absolutely nothing to do with you. Also alot of you have absolutely no fucking clue of the past of this shit, which is why you got the new generations dicks in your mouth. I dont mean it in a harsh sense, but I also dont give a shit how you take it.

LL Has stood more than the test of time, hes been with the same damn label for all 13 of his albums. Was the first artist ever signed to the label and brought it to where its at from literally the foundation up.

12 Albums released to date all of them plat or about so. Even though nowadays there are 30 million records sold to some rappers, they did not do so in 1984. Nor were they even close to rapping at that time either.

As far as the battle scene goes, LL is undefeated. Remember this, undefeated. If you need to check out the tracks, by all means indulge them yourself and see if he did not massacre canibus on those tracks. That is not the only 1, but ill let you figure out the rest. [Some are definitive legends.]

I agree with QUhectic.

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Hov has 9 albums get your facts right....With all that you just said....what does that have to do w/ ll selling records now? How many of those albums have you purchased? LL has been doing it for a long time, but it has nothing to do with him running a company. You can't compare LL to Jay-z. Only thing LL has going for him in hip-hop is that he's a pioneer and a legend. Hov changed the game, period. Clothes, Films, Marketing, Sneakers, Vodka, Budweiser, Chevy, HP, and President of DEF JAM.....it goes on and on. He's done all of that while killing the game lyrically.

LL may be un-defeated but he never faced anyone who could kill you w/ one line. He better be prepared.

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Hov has 9 albums get your facts right....With all that you just said....what does that have to do w/ ll selling records now? How many of those albums have you purchased? LL has been doing it for a long time, but it has nothing to do with him running a company. You can't compare LL to Jay-z. Only thing LL has going for him in hip-hop is that he's a pioneer and a legend. Hov changed the game, period. Clothes, Films, Marketing, Sneakers, Vodka, Budweiser, Chevy, HP, and President of DEF JAM.....it goes on and on. He's done all of that while killing the game lyrically.

LL may be un-defeated but he never faced anyone who could kill you w/ one line. He better be prepared.

I have purchased 4 jay-Z's records. Life and times of sean carter, hard knock life, reasonable doubt and the first blueprint. My wife bought me the other 5. I have purchased personally 4 LL CD's. Radio, Mama said knock you out, GOAT and Mr. smith. That has nothing to do with the post, so as far as that goes your argument is idiotic. I stated 5 albums, I wasnt directly pointing that part to J but take it as you wish.

As far as not being able to compare the 2, they both are artists. All artists are comparable in terms of their pasts and in terms of the things they have accomplished. This is an LL vs Jay-z, I put it in a battle sense, not money wise. You cats keep bringing up money and shit like if the dudes broke, talking a bunch of shit and it makes no damn sense.

Battle wise, listen to LL's records. I do agree, Jay-Z has an incredible business mentality, I didnt say he was horrible in anything he did. Im just agreeing with LL's current statements. Regardless, getting to the point, Canibus Second Round KO. LL replies with Jack The ripper, Canibus replies with Rip The Jacker. Of course LL's was the best, but Canibus did his thing in both tracks. LL just stung alot more.

Im not here to argue shit on the internet, by all means. Im here to just voice an opinion on the whole LL vs Jay-Z front.

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— 9 months ago

i'm not giving him all the credit....but when your the face of the franchise, part owner, and the company makes millions of dollars..... of witch your responsible for 85%..... you deserve a lot of the credit! Check "Lost Ones"

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— 9 months ago

LL vs. Jigga...I've been waitin' for this one...the true KONY will be decided.

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LL cool j is A DEF JAM ARTIST! Jay-Z CEO OF DEF JAM!

ask urself this:

WHY U LET A NYGGA COME DO AT DEF JAM WHAT U COULDNT DO AND U WERE THERE 8 years ahead???

Cool J jealous! I CAN SEE IT IN HIS EYES!

Im a Jay fan but LL is a legend no doubt! WILL BE A GREAT BATTLE!

BUT JAY WILL NOT FALL LIKE CANIBUS PERIOD! LL u better quit!

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1)I'm a true fucking hip hop head. And me and ever other TRUE hip hop head knows LL has been in the game for 30 years and has been Luke warm(at best) for 20 of those years...'Pink Cookies in a plastic bag', 'Bucking em down', 'Going back to Cali'...Come on B! This nigga been wack for a very long time...LL was never considered the best in any time period...Run was king of NY, Then Rakim ruled,Big was King, Jay became King...LL has never dominated any period in rap history...JayZ ruled from 98 - 05...When did LL rule? LL has been barely hanging on since the early 90's...His attempt to drop a "hard core album" 21 shots to the dome was a complete disaster..The shit was horrible...

2)And he really lost half of those battles he was in that you niggas are so quick to bring up...LL DID NOT BEAT CANIBUS!!!!!...LISTEN TO THOSE FUCKING RECORDS AGAIN!!!! LL WAS MORE POPULAR AND HAD MORE INFLUECE AND FRIENDS THAN CANIBUS...LL HAD DEF JAM FUCK CANIBUS'S CAREER UP SO IT MADE IT APPEAR LIKE LL WON...

3)LL USES FUCKING GHOST WRITERS!!!! HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU BE THE GOAT AND USE GHOST WRITERS FOR 80% OF YOUR MATERIAL...GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!

4)If he was really the GOAT he would not have to say it himself...Niggas would have crowned him a long time ago...Nobody even thought about him when talking about the Greatest until he started saying the shit trying to convince people...Niggas argueing about whether it was BIG or Pac, now they're saying Jay...All three of those niggas are gonna leave a strong legacy behing...All LL can argue is that he's been in the game the longest...Sitting around being mediocre for 20 years don't make you the best!!!

5)LL is a selfish dickhead...He hasn't introduced shit to the game...No artists, Record label,CLothing Line, NOTHING...After 30 years this dumb ass nigga is still just a fucking RAPPER...He's a fucking bum!!!!!

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— 9 months ago

Co-sign that sh*t!!!!!!

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— 9 months ago

NIGGA PLEASE

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My Money is on L.L the man is not a legend for no fucken reason. It's funny how dumb fucks only refer to Canibus as one of his battles. What about Kool Moe Dee and Ice-T. Let's not forget that the man is still on top of his game after so many years.

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@adrincon:

YOu cock sucking ass nigga! What fucking game are you looking at? LL must have a different fucking game going on then everybody else cause this dick head is not on top of game that I know of...In fact the nigga is at the bottom barely hanging on!!!! His last album was like a wack ass mix tape with 100 guest appearances...

This big head ass nigga think that he should still be relevant because he works out...The nigga stopped rapping in the middle of the song with JLO and started making noises posing!!! Everybody works out now...Even Timbaland! LL's lane is closed and he can't accept it...

Like Busta Rhymes said, this nigga is a classic case of 'Legend of the Falloffs'...If the nigga really wanted to stay relevant why won't drop a mixtape..Do some guest appearances...When was the last time you heard an LL mixtape???? The nigga aint willing to put the work in...He thinks licking his fucking lips and working out is enough but it aint.

And for the record, Kool Moe Dee served that nigga...

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Q.Griff stick to bubble gum rap dumb fuck. What the fuck u know about ghost writting? You sound like a shit talking nigga that don't know shit. To start how the fuck are u gonna sit here and say that this nigga is a big headed mutha fucka when he is been the game for so long. I bet if i look through your crate of tapes his album is in there. See the problem with niggas like u is that u tend to run off in the mouth without knowing shit about music. STOP JUMPING ON THE BAND WAGON WITH ALL THESE FAKE ASS NIGGAS DUMB FUCK! (GET YO SHIT STRAIGHT)

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The only arguement ANY FUCKING BODY CAN MAKE FOR LL IS HOW LONG HE'S BEEN IN THE GAME...CAN SOMEBODY HONESTLY TELL WHAT YEAR THIS NIGGA WAS CONSIDERED "THAT NIGGA"...RUN HAD HIS,RAKIM HAD HIS,NAS HAD HIS, BIG HAD HIS, SNOOP HAD HIS, PAC HAD HIS,DRE HAD HIS, JAY HAD HIS, 50 HAS ALREADY HAD HIS, TI HAD HIS, NOW WEEZY IS HAVING HIS TURN....BUT WHEN IN THE FUCK WAS LL CONSIDERED "THAT NIGGA"?

HOW CAN YOU BE THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME WHEN YOU WERE NEVER CONSI