50 CENT vs. OPRAH – and the loser is…
…Hip-Hop.
Once again, we the true Hip-Hop nation have lost another round in the battle of “True Hip-Hop” vs. “The Modern Day Hip-Hop Image”. Let me first say this, I, like most inner city niggaz, can not and have not related to Oprah in many years. This makes me the last person to say that I am a fan of her show. So, with that thought in mind, I have nothing to lose or gain by watching or not watching Oprah. But, the truth is that Oprah has done more for the positive image of black people (black women in particular) than anyone we know. For twenty plus fucking years she’s been out there doing her thing and never once had, or asked for, the support of any artist, Hip-Hop or otherwise. Like her or hate her, she’s just as black as me, you, Kunta Kinte or any other nigga who came out of Africa. Now, all of the sudden these rap niggaz, who already sell more records than Jesus (to 90% white people) want to use The Oprah Winfrey Show to promote that bullshit that they pass off as Hip-Hop.
Let’s keep it real. 50 Cent sells a lot of records. He also writes some of the greatest hooks I’ve ever heard. For a few years he’s been as hot as shit on the street and otherwise. But the reality is, 50 Cent sells dope. His image and everything he stands for says he’s a dope dealing thug, and he wouldn’t have it any other way. Plain and simple. So for him, Ludacris, Ice Cube or any other mother-fucker in the business who thinks that putting Oprah on blast, and questioning her STREET CREDIBILITY, clearly shows that we as a people have lost our fucking minds. What do you think a person that has over one billion dollars should do? Hang out with Shaquita and them and baby-sit her four kids in the projects? Or better yet, put a couple of million out on the street and double her money on the re-up? Or better yet, I got it, her and Martha Stewart can get together and rob a liquor store at gun point? Would you mother-fuckers rather see her do some stupid shit like that?
The bottom line is, when you have Oprah money, you do what you want to do. When I am in the streets of New York City, and I see the Vitamin Water adds on the buses, with pictures of 50 reading the newspaper and holding a poodle, not a pit-bull, but a **ing poodle, do I think 50 sold out? Noooooooo. I think he’s trying to sell Vitamin Water. To who? Anybody that would buy it. So he can do what? Hang out in the projects with Ray Ray drinking beer and holding his balls? Noooooooo. He’s trying to get Oprah money, so he can do anything he wants to do, just like Oprah. Let’s not get the game twisted. He’s trying to force Oprah’s hand to make Oprah help him promote some shit that she, and for that matter I, don’t give a shit about. 50 Cent and Oprah live in two separate worlds. It should stay that way. They think two separate ways. And, it should stay that way. So for the media and grimey niggaz to portray Oprah as a person who doesn’t like Hip-Hop because she doesn’t like negative bullshit, has to be a low point in niggadom.
Oprah represents, call it sell out or not, a person who has evolved and elevated herself to the highest point of society’s elite. And, 50 Cent, call it what you want to call it, hell of an artist, great business man, but bottom line, it might hurt to hear it, is a dope dealing nigga, who if he wore Oprah’s shoes, would do the same thing Oprah does. And, so would me or you. So, in parting, if Oprah’s selling out, let her. ‘Cause Oprah, one day, could run for President, and 50 Cent, could run from the cops.
-Mele “Damn, I’m not Stedman” Mel
COMMENTS
I still feel that Oprah could have these people on her shows, especially for the reason that their no tust rap artists or thugs.....look at Ludacris for example he has his CD out right now and it has a very good song with a very important message on it "Runaway Love", not to mention he is an actor. 50 Cent, who says Oprah has to directly promote his album....just let him come on and talk about his movies or his vitamin water. I dunno this is just my opinion.
there's nothing else that needs to be said, he said it all lol
MELLE MEL SHUT YO OLD ASS STERIOD ASS MOTHERFUCKA ASS UP BITCH
FUCK OPRAH
BUT IT'S AIGHT FOR OPRAH TO HAVE RACISTASS KLAN MEMBERS ON HER SHOW? AND NOT JUST ONCE, SHE INVITES THEM BACK FOR MORE SHOWS, JUST SO THEY CAN KEEP SAYING THEY HATE NIGGAZ. IT'S HER SHOW, SO SHE CAN DO WHAT THE FUCK SHE WANTS.
You have to be a damn moron if you think oprah has to have them on the show.....Oprah has done more for the black community than 50 cent and 20 niccas that look like him. You have to be fucking kidding me to think he has the nerve to call oprah out. This nicca cant hardly read and write. IF she dont want to have him on her show so be it...I dont see that mother fucker saying that shit to white talk show host...cus im sure she aint the only one who wont have him. She dont have to kiss his bamma ass if she dont want too. that nicca is a clown...Luda and ice cube too. These dudes have some nerve.
Melle Mel has some vaild points but the bottom line is Oprah has done alot for Black people in her early years. To play off or disrespect Hip-hop but not allow not just 50 cent on but all the men and women who made hip hop today. She is disrespecting the nation as a whole. Most big dj and legend rappers are old ass hell let's just be real about that. Jay what 40 and dre up there so is cube,busta,kay slay,all the wu etc. These men have seen thing and face thing that effect our youth today and Luda went a step further by saying on his freedom of speech song. " if you dont understand hip hop you might be getting to old" That's real because this what everyone listen to now so it's a way of life just like starbucks,nike,pizza rolls, and bootlegging holler.
Fuck u amj1227 u bitch!!!Oprah can suck my dick that stupidass OREO!!!My nigga 50 wuz rite shes been catering 2 middle age white bitches so long that shes bcum 1 herself!!!Shes black on tha outside & white on tha inside!!!G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G- u know wat it is!!!G-UNIT 4 LIFE bitches!!!!!!
first off, juice is a fucking clown
anyway, why are you all being so fuckin remedial................. get a grip; 50, luda, and ice cube all know that this stupid feud with oprah all started when they were getting blazed. not one rapper genuinely cares that oprah has those kkk members on the shoe, rather than their sorry asses... its HER shoe. she doesnt HAVE to have them, but she CHOOSES to have them.
melle mel is completely right and covers all sides of the argument.
"Cause Oprah, one day, could run for President, and 50 Cent, could run from the cops."
That is well said...
ANYONE WHO AGREES WITH THIS CLOWN IS JUS TAS STUPID AS HE IS...50 CENT MAY HAVE SOLD DRUGS BUT HE DID WHAT HE HAD TO DO TO BREAK THAT CYCLE AND ACHIEVE WHEN ALL ODDS WERE AGAINST HIM. OPRAH OPRAH OPRAH YES SHE HAS DONE THINGS FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY BUT SO HAS 50 JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT DOESN'T MEAN IT IS NOT TRUE. THAT ALONE SHOULD SHOW YOU THAT HE IS DOING IT NOT FOR PUBLICITY BUT FOR THE NATURE OF DOING GOOD. INSTEAD OF OPRAH RECOGNIZEING THOSE SPECIFIESD RAPPERS GOOD SHE ONLY SEE'S THE BAD BUT THE BAD ONLY IS BECAUSE OF THE PLAUGE THAT HAS BEEN OVER BLACK AMERICAS YOUTH SINCE SLAVERY (WILLIE LYNCH). SO WHY DOES OPRAH NOT CHOOSE TO UPLIFT HER FELLOW PEOPLE WHY DOES SHE CHOOSE TO DEMOTE THEM? BECAUSE SHE IS SCARED SCARED TO REALLY STAND FOR HER RACE 100% IF SHE ALLOWS ICE CUBE, 50 CENT, OR LUDACRIS ON HER SHOW SHE MIGHT LOOSE (WHITE) VIEWERS IT IS SAD BECAUSE BEFORE OPRAH WAS OPRAH WE THE BLACK COMMUNITY CHEERED HER ON AND WATCHED HER SHOW. IF SHE WAS SO MUCH OF AN EDUCATED WOMAN SHE WOULD NOT PASS JUDGMENT SHE WOULD INVITE THEM TO SPEAK STATE HER OPINIONS AND THEN SHE CAN DETERMINE IF THEY ARE TRULY IGNORANT. IF THEY WERE THEY WOULD NOT BE IN THEIR POSITIONS. IT PAINS ME TO SEE THIS BLACK ON BLACK DEMOTION. OPRAH ARGUES THAT THEY CALL BLACK WOMEN BITCHES. HELLO!!!!!!!!!!! WOMEN OF ALL RACES CALL THERSELVES BITCHES THE CALL EACH OTHER BITCHES IN TIME'S OF ANGER AND EVEN IN PLAY. AND I BE TOPRAH ALL OF HER OPRAH DOLLARS THAT SHE WHILE BEING "OPRAH" HAS CALLED ANOTHER FEMALE A BITCH. BOTOM LINE IS THAT EVERY SINGLE WOMAN IN THE WORLD (ALL RACES) DOESN'T CARRY THERSELVES AS A RESPECTFULQUEEN AND EVERY SINGLE MAN (ALL RACES) DOES NOT CARRY HIMSELF AS A RESPECTFUL KING. AND UNTIL THIS CAN BE DONE ACROSS THE BOARD THERE WILL FOREVER BE BITCHES, SLUTS, HOES, WHORES, DEAD BEAT DADS, RAPISTS, CHILD MOLESTORS, WIFE BEATERS, SERIAL KILLERS, ARCENISTS & POLITICIANS. OPRAH USE ALL OF YOUR BOOKU BUCKS TO ACQUIRE SOME LOGIC, MATURITY, AND UNDERSTANDING. UNTIL THEN YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN KRAMER!
This world is full of stupid ass niggas. After reading some of these replys I truly do believe that.
Uplift her fellow people??? Are you kidding me??? Oprah has niggas on her show on a regular basis, but because she doesnt want a nigga on her show that raps about killing, drug dealing and bitches, she is an Oreo or a sellout? Nigga please this bitches show is aimed at middle to late age WOMEN! No color or race involved. Last I checked my moms aint give a fuck about 50 cent. 50 can act......yes......Ice Cube & Luda can act.......yes. But if they get a lil more 3 demensional with their talents then she might consider having them on her show because they are talented brothas. Look at the show she had with Jamie Fox.
Honestly what the fuck is Oprah & 50 cent going to talk about anyway? Can anybody honestly answer that question. I would rather see Ice Cube on her show for the simple fact that nigga has very good views on black culture and race relations (His show he procuced Black/White).
But as far as having people on her show because they are black is not a valid reason to book somebody. It has to be in relation to the interest of her market and age viewership.
point blank oprah has done more good for people in general for years regardless of race so she don't wanna have a nigga that says bitch all over audio think about that shit for a min thats like some white dude making a album sayin nigga all over it and then asking u if u wanna come over and kick it? if she take that personally thats her choice she ain't gotta do shit to make these niggas feel better grown ass men complaining cuz they can't get a spot on a show. there are some cats that have somewhat of a case like luda,ice cube they were doin movies and she kinda flipped it to well the movie was good but i can't stand your music still they ain't got no reason to come at her like they have been not everbody is gonna like rap they gonna have to deal wit it and who knows she might love hip hop she never said she don't like rap she just don't like what they sayin in there music my moms don't like what they sayin do that make her a bitch HELL NO
This is a "touchy" subject... On oe hand u have someone that's honestly done nothing for hip-hop wanting us to back him. On the other hand... U have Oprah. I dont even have to go into ALL that she's done because her accomplishments are lengthier than 50cent's fake rap sheet. The point being this...
She's done alot for african americans period. She's a legend point blank. Just for her being where she is now, is a great thing for us... it means that the doors are open for us to do it again, and again and again...which means she made it possible for us to prosper...
Now for the other part... I could honestly care less about what 50 says... it's Ludacris's point of view that really caught my attention back in April or May.
He went on the show as an actor and she couldnt converse and or intereview him with the other "actors"... she wanted to keep labeling him as just the "rapper" with the album titled "Chicken and Beer". Hopefully yall see where I'm going with this because I really don't feel like filling it all in...
Anyways, they got into it...maturely and respectively, but she didnt like the fact that she couldnt just Bully him like she does with 99% of her guest. Therefore she cut out his responses from the final cut of the show... It pissed off Luda and a lot of people of course... and No she doesn't like RAPPERS on her show... (we all know that)...
But at the end of the day people... it is her show! What do u expect?
Do u really think a few request for "RAPPERS" to be on her show is going to change anything? No of course not!
She's built a billion dollar empire by doing just what she's doing now... so her sentiments are... "Why fix what APPARENTLY ain't broke".... can u blame her?
As much as I love hip-hop and as much as I'd love to see a "RAPPER" back on Oprah...
When I look into her audience... and when I think of the people that actually watch the show (middle aged white women...yes its true)... I quickly see why there are no "RAPPERS" there.... It Ain't that Type of PARTY! Plus Oprah won't condone anything that she doesnt see as being uplifting... or tax deductable lol!
also if anyone took personal about what I said of 50cents... then come to
Nas Addresses 50 cent, Jim Jones, Sony, and all the controversy (Audio) — 12.14.2006
-Be EAZY...
Man you can't compare what Oprah's doing for the Nation to what Fifty does it's like Elephants and Ants on see-saws, 50 got his boxers in jumble because the lady doesn't want him on her show to promote his bullshit he calls Hip-Hop. Hip-Hop is dead. Puffy Killed it IMO but that's another issue but Puff is the reason the game is the way it is now. I will elaborate in another post. But the bottem line is that Oprah doesn't have to Cater to the "Hip-Hop" Community because she's made her Billions without us so why start fucking with us now especially when the game is where it is now, DEAD. Niggaz better stick to BET and MTV to peddle their shit nationally because Oprah aint diggin that shit yall shoveling.
i honestly think mel and his point of view is not that valid. i just saw him (like other old school hiphop heads) on BET'S AMERICAN Gansta and he was on tape with known murders and drug dealers praising what they do and talking about how he and others have songs about drugs and spending money...in other words how they contribute to the trend of killing the soul of the black culture by adding a beat to it. i know it sounds like i am hating but i am just wondering why its such a big deal that the new artist do the samething the old did if NO ONE IS TRYING TO HELP FIX THE REAL ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY. How i feel about oprah i think she has done a lot for ppl (black ppl i know) I am one of the 50 ppl that she has bought housing for after the katrina hurricane. and she is rebuilding hoods for 20 thousand and more families this year fully furnished. i'm amazed how quick ppl forget that its still her money (billion dollars) and she is giving to so many causes...created funding to help millions, she has helped catch rapist, fed hungry in new orleans when disaster struck....tusnami victims helped with homes, aids relief in this country as well as africa, bringing attention to Obama to the masses, and now bein glike great black before her created a school for orphan girls in africa. who have deadly aids....you guys suck talking shit about O.
50 OWNS a large share of vitamin water and donates to the O's angel foundation...why can't he speak his mind about another person. O doing the good she does...doesn't exclude her from being talked about though
No disrespect to anyone who reads this comment, but I already know that someone will read this get mad and say some corny diss calling me all kind of names and cursing up a the storm. But I still will state my case. I am not a big Oprah fan she does appeal more to the middle class housewife, but that’s fine with me that’s her target and core audience. Think about it this way your mama and teacher does not want to see 50 on Oprah just like you don’t want to see Oprah hosting a party at the club. When all is said and done, Oprah will go down not just in Black History but American History as well for her substantial wealth and humanitarian contributions to the world. What will 50 be remembered for, getting shoot and selling records. I don’t know if he does contribute back to society and if he does more power to him. I am not a 50 hater or for that fact any body hater I hope he continues to sell, but we are looking at two very different people. Oprah does not need street credibility when she is building schools and hospitals, investing in HIV/Aids treatment in Africa, and giving scholarships to young black students. Why should she care about street cred, Oprah is not selling cds and a thug image she is a corporation all by herself. Like all people she has her issues that I may not care for but you can’t knock all the good things she does. Think beyond the block people. I am one who believes that a person should never forget where they come from but to be honest there a certain things as a people we need to overcome. Oprah had shows where she helped single black mothers, donate computers and equipment to poor black schools, and a laundry list of other real things to help the community. Who do you want you kids to be like Oprah or 50?
I don’t want Oprah catering to 50 or for that fact any dope boy in the trap if that means continuing the same old negativity that is packaged to us. If you think Oprah is a sellout, please get your mind right she runs and owns all that she is connected to, that’s not selling out. She is buying out and that’s how you should do it. Selling out is allowing a group of old white men who have no concern about “street cred” or anything you care about telling you how to image, package, and sell yourself. Selling out is having a concert packed with more white people than black people reciting your rhymes and saying “Nigga” like its ok and you just rap on, that’s selling out. So think twice about whom is more of a sell out Oprah and 50?
Yo melle mel u said it all and u r absolutely right the thing is just that i think u overrated 50 cent a little u r giving the guy too much credit do u really think he's dat smart? he's complaining about oprah selling ot when he's being pimped by a racist white nigga(ironic right?)some people dont agree wit u but if people can just open their minds 2 wat u really mean they will understand.
All this proves one point.Hip Hop Is Dead.
Fools dont respect elders no more
wow who have beef with the queen of talk show's ?
i got the answer bihch made nigga
50 dumb wid beef man he pick on dumbens
How can Melle Mel have anything to say about anything... Wasn't this the same nigga,That was complaning about Artist coming out now not giving props to him and other artist from back in the days. "Fuck out'ta here"
what? who cares?