Was Cam'ron Holding Juelz Santana Back?

by The Chosen Few on August 19th, 2008

People have been wondering where Juelz Santana, mayor of Santana’s Town, has been over the past couple of years. With his last studio album coming in 2005 with What The Game’s Been Missing, you would get an occasional guest appearance or a mixtape with Weezy F., but you wouldn’t really see him on any albums as a guest appearance and Cam’ron seems to have been the reason behind that.

Free of his contractual obligations to Cam’ron and DipSet, now working solely on Def Jam, Juelz talked to MTV News about how he felt about being “sold”.

"I was upset about the part of me being 'sold for $2 million,' " Santana explained. "At times like this, nobody is trying to 'sell' me. I could have come out and said, 'Oh, yeah, Cam got bought out.' But I didn't go that route. They just gotta watch me move. We gonna make it hot."

Juelz also stated he couldn’t make guest appearances on other artists’ songs because Cam wouldn’t clear the collaborations. Cam even went as far as suing people for compensation in such cases as the Nike commercial and Chris Brown’s hit single “Run It”.

Juelz said a lot of material on others songs never saw the daylight. "I'm just gonna say a lot of big records. ... I was on a good portion of those records, or asked to be on a good portion of those records that [Lil] Wayne was on — along with him, not like they asked me before they asked him, or vice versa. I know I was on a good portion of those records, 'cause the I Can't Feel My Face thing. We were pushing that hard. People wanted to get both of us. I couldn't go as far as the clearances. I could do my verse, then it got to the point where I couldn't go there with people, because I didn't want them to think that it was me being the bad guy not clearing stuff. I didn't want that on my name. So, I would let people know, 'I can't really. ... If you wanna just put it out on the mixtapes, we could do that all day. The fans definitely missed out on a lot of Juelz due to my contract."

Despite the contract fallout Juelz has no problems with Killa and still yells DipSet.

"I have no hard feelings towards Cam," he explained. "I tell people I couldn't do business with him. But I will say he gave me the biggest chance I needed. I'm a dude from the 'hood, so the chance he gave me is a chance I needed to never turn back. I'm good. My artistry, my talent, my career was never built on controversy. So I would never come out and say a whole bunch of things that could be said. All I can say is, I'm sorry he can't be here to be a part of what's about to happen, because we're about to tear 'em up."

Look out for Santana’s new crew of artists, Skull Gang, which is an acronym for "Street Kids United by Loyalty and Loot, Goons and N---as Getting It." The crew includes artists from Harlem, Virginia and Queens, and they will be heavily featured on Santana's next LP Born to Lose, Built to Win (The Rise of the Skull Gang).

"Everybody could get a whiff of the future," he exclaimed.

"The good thing about [my time with Cam]," he continued, "I got a chance to learn a lot and be around Cam and Jim and watch us, the Diplomats, one of the greatest movements and still one of the greatest movements doing this thing today. I know the ins and outs of what it takes to build a powerful movement. I know the things that got us to the points where we needed to be. Then I know some of the things that was holding us back. I get to work around the things I need to work around. Jim has Byrd Gang, I have the Skull Gang, and Freekey Zekey has 730."

While talking about Dipset, Juelz claims they are still intact but there is some confusion over what Cam has been up to and he would love to do another Diplomat album.

"It's no hard feelings, and now that I'm out of my situation, I don't mind putting a Diplomat album together. All I gotta do is tell my lawyer to handle the business the right way, and the music gets taken care of. I love making music. We all love making music. Me, Jim, Zeke — we all down to do the Diplomat album. You gotta ask Cam what's up about the Diplomat album when you get him front of this same camera.

"At first people kinda looked at us like, 'Damn, what's going on?' " he continued. "They looking at us like we're disloyal. But as the time went by, it's kinda like, what we gonna do, just die out because the dude that was supposed to be the boss and the head of the table decided to disappear? That means we would have vanished along with that. We from Harlem, baby. We hustlers. We're gonna stay afloat. We're not even floating right now; we're surfing. We not even surfing; I'm the ocean."

Fans won’t hear a new album from Juelz for some time, because he wants to take his time and take care of business.

"I had to let everybody know in the Def Jam building that it was no rush to hand in a single, because now I'm a businessman," he said. "There's nobody to go to when things ain't right but me. I had to find out a lot of things I didn't have to find out before. I could let other people handle things for me. I had to let the building know [the business] is where my mind is. There's a lot more people depending on me. I can't just be out here as an artist."

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Santana is putting out a Skull Gang mixtape to be followed by his solo street CD, The Regan Era sometime in 2009.
 
 
 
 

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matthewblaze10 months ago
go juelz you rock
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betyalyfe10 months ago
well shit i dont see why cam would get mad about him doin collabos…he would be makin money off it too
i mean did everyone realize how hot ‘run it’ was when it came out? i mean it was a major hit record
shit…o well…hope to hear some new music from juelz and hopefully he doesnt start gettin on that wack shit like most rappers are
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dagod10 months ago
Big ups to Juelz for not dissing Cam. Even if Cam “held you back” he still gave him the opportunity to be who he is today, Juelz Santana. Juelz would be smoking crack in a dark Harlem alley if it wasn’t for Cam.
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skeazaleo10 months ago
that skull gang shit gonna be hot…

but I still need I CANT FEEL MY FACE!!!

Im STILL bangin that mixtape…2 YEARS LATER….


but this article coming out is kinda crazy cuz I was JUST thinkin about CAM and where the fuck he has been???

We need CAM to go back to the COME HOME WITH ME DAYS

COME HOME CAMCOME HOME
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413josh10 months ago
go Juelz!!! finally!!! go make some music man…and forget that bitch Cam’Ron…me and 50 will take him out
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houston10 months ago
WTF, this Julez situation is just as the same as the G-unit, how the hell you gona give Cam’ron some props, but say fuck 50 cent, this is the same shit happenin all over, just like you said if it wasnt for Cam’ron Julez would have been nothin, same goes for the game, if it wasnt for 50 cent you wouldnt been nothin, but yall hate to give 50 cent props, richest rapper out rite now
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i3music10 months ago
damn ive ben waitin fa dis album fa ever cam ben holdin juelz back like crazy fa real
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stiles0210 months ago
Santana is the reason I ever listened to naything DipSet related, based on this he seems like a stand up nigga. Keep doin’ ya thing homie cuz he still one of the nicest in the Game. I wonder what joints he was supposed to be on…….
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2real10 months ago
If the Hot Boyz can settle their “disputes”, why can’t the Diplomats do it as well? I mean their fuckin name is based on that!
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psyberkayos10 months ago
As long as Juelz doesn’t come out on some of that T-Pain vocoder bull it’ll all be alright.
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413josh10 months ago
^ TRUE! props man, you said the best thing today
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dcinthesouth10 months ago
never really liked juelz alone…shit the dips only sound good when all dem niggas are together as a group trading verses….even Jimmy sounds half-decent when him, cam, and julez are together…damn those were the days…:(
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metal2410 months ago
i’m not a fan of the dip or especially cam i think he a snake for holdin juelz back.. big ups to juelz for not bashin him like he should..hope he puts out some hot music with def jam..but they aint known for lettin thier artist drop albums unless they got a big buzz goin for them..hopefully juelz gets his chance he deserves it..
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cheezus10 months ago
the whole crew sucks dick
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djdmob10 months ago
413Josh—1 day ago

go Juelz!!! finally!!! go make some music man…and forget that bitch Cam’Ron…me and 50 will take him out

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then after that you, 50, banks & yayo will have a gay fuck fest
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killak200710 months ago
^^ROFL, yo d-mob, dat shit was funny^^

yo 413josh, get 50’s nuts out ya mouth nigga, all u eva do is ride on the unit’s dick!!!
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imefimef10 months ago
“You rock”?
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imefimef10 months ago
“You rock”?
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bucknasty2210 months ago
Man The rap game crazy Cam just got done bashing Jay-z for pulling hoe moves on Dash and Cam Fuck Around and Pull a Weak ass stunt like that on a Nigga from his Hood..Santana Carried the Set…
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goodsjr10 months ago
must be da truth i was thinkin da same damn thing…im bout to go get both santana mixtapes right now
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mosreal42010 months ago
bout fuckin time juelz got released from that situation. he is gonna run 2009 U CAN HOLD ME TO THAT, I GARUNTEE IT. more than wayne ran this year.

but u kno im actually very disappointed wit cam for runnin his business like dat. i mean there is no excuse for just hiding juelz like he did. not letting him collabo??? come on man… it seems to me that cam was scared juelz was gonna blow up n get a bigger name than himself so he didnt let him do shit
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blackjoker10 months ago
Yea cam was holdin my nigga back, yea cam put him on but cam is seriously in the game juss for tha money n he’d go through anybody to get to it that’s juss how he is and juelz isn tha only dipset member who got tha low end of tha rope becuz of cam.


Dipset for life
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dagod10 months ago
Every single head exec of a label is in it for money, not just Cam. Cam isn’t the only one who supposedly did his artists dirty, there’s a whole list of niggas who did that: Suge, Puff, Jay, 50 etc….
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thegreenmonster10 months ago
so know i know why i cant feel my face didnt drop……..cam’s a hater!!!!! he didnt want 1 of his lil soldiers collaborating with someone bigger than him.
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byrdz10 months ago
BuckNasty
Wudn’t u disappear on a nigga that jumped on stage with a nigga u was having problems with. Cam didn’t hold Juelz or Jimmy back. Them niggaz did dis shit to themselves with they disloyalty.

Still i can’t help but feel like even Cam f’d up. he could’ve handled this much differently. Oh well.
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thechosenfew10 months ago
No…….. Like that Chris Brown joint, that was looonnngg ago… So Cam has been blocking this nigga’s collabos for years now, way before that 50 shit…..
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tkizzle10 months ago
It’s just a clear case of the understudy being more talented than his mentor and the young dude has overshadowed his mentor’s success.
I guess it’s Robin and Batman now b/c Juelz is the star of the two.
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vaboy75710 months ago
BYRDZ U WRNG LKE The Chosen Few said cam been holdn them niggas back 4 a min…dat nike commercial been out 4 a min

i feel juelz im nt goin to sit back and vanish 4 NOBODY
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severe300010 months ago
Skull Gang, which is an acronym for “Street Kids United by Loyalty and Loot, Goons and N—-as Getting It.”
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thats some of the dumbest shit i ever heard lol.
just call your crew skull gang, and leave it at that.
no need for all that extra dumb shit
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nocartel10 months ago
^ agree^

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“We’re gonna stay afloat. We’re not even floating right now; we’re surfing. We not even surfing; ….I’m the ocean….”
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That sounds like something Wang would say!
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phillyeagle10 months ago
that doesnt make sense. the “it” in getting it should be capitalized. and the "and " in skull gang should be lower
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dakush42010 months ago
i hop everything goes good for juelz he was the only one in dipset i listen to so ill be looking out for w/e hes puttin out. idk bout skull gang but they shouldnt use the acornym. cam always been a bitch i never liked him then he looked stupid wen he was yellin its gonna be a hot summer and didnt drop a single…juelz better off witout his wack rappin ass.
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houston10 months ago
About time julez left the bird nest, i bet you that julez is going to aftermath or G-unit label, him and jim jones did a concert together wit g-unit, Dat nigga should have a pull a game, and diss his ass, Cam’ron just think he the shit, Soujia Boy can kill this nigga at rappin,broke ass don fuck up now
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djdmob10 months ago
“i bet you that julez is going to aftermath or G-unit label”

I doubt that seriously.
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cognachinnivsop10 months ago
SANTANA MITE POPBUT ITS OVA 4 JIM AND ZEEK WAS NEVER HOT. AS FAR AS I SEE IT, THEY’LL NEVER BE AT THATPAEKEVER AGAIN. LIKE THEY’LL NEVER BE THAT BIG AGAIN. AINT NO MORE ACTUALDIPSET”. CAM BETTER START A NEW ROSTER OR GET THATDIPSOUTHSHIT POPPIN OFF
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romejones10 months ago
Juelz had some of the illest bars that Dipset has and will ever hear…Jus like Jimmy doin the Byrdgang thing, Juelz gotta do his thing, its about time, that Nike joint wuz his last big thing!! Santana is a good one for showin patience for so long….Learn it.


ReDef.
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ehype2510 months ago
I FUCKS WITH JUELZ.
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jtamnigga10 months ago
fuck camron fony ass tigger look alike. jose run game on him leave him in the ditch ditch where he can rote like pussy that he get bitch
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mrturkleson10 months ago
I want to co sign but I dont kno wat the fuck you talkin about….you sir have……

FAILED
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marquissade10 months ago
well it might be too little too late. If he was going to do anything relevant, it should’ve been after the Blow I can’t feel my face mixtape
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rockstar6110 months ago
Ill Be Waiting
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efdee10 months ago
Wait till Cam drops niggas he will leave ur mouth wide open no homo. Fo’real u ppl seem dumb. U think jus cuz Cam aint in the spotlight he aint gettin his money? lol he sued Nike! wonder how much he made off dat and he jus sold juelz for 2 mill. he made millions without showing his face in public. Name 1 rapper dat can do dat. And plz stop actin like Juelz family or sumthn Dipset fans need to realize this the ppl Cam really care abt r behind the scenes and not superstars(ex; Tito Poppins).Anyway lookout for Cam’s ‘Crime Pays’ this fall he takin over!
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cheezus10 months ago
YOU DON’T DO SOMETHING FOR FIFTEEN YEARS AND THEN TAKE OVER, he’ll never be and never has been one of the elite, shits done, him and dame should split on an apartment and see about retirement, welfare style
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sthamogul10 months ago
Yo props to postin this interview and lettin the kids see the other side of the business and the shady character Cam really is. He’s really lame for tryin to kill my mans career because his shit was poppin the way it was early 00’s

Juelz spits crack and I hope he gets to have some of that fame that Wayne got cuz he’s more then deserving

S
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gice10 months ago
I guess Cam was thinking if I’m going down in the Rap game, I’ma make sure others in my crew go down with me.
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jaecrisnyc10 months ago
Am really looking forward to this. Juelz has been a great asset to the game and it has not been the same since. camron on the other hand seems to hold personal feelings in a bussniess environment. wheater or not camron sabotaged juelz’s rise to a higher level would be somewhat inadequate but one must concur that the success of lil Wayne’s career would’ve played a major factor if the juelz/weezy collabo album would have been released.
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blazethirty10 months ago
cam pussy he takin food out niggaz mouth,,ya niggaz gotta eat too!! and any real nigga knows dat… if my connect get knock,then i pushin it by myself…gotta eat..Right??
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badguy101proof10 months ago
SHIT TALK ABOUT WHAT THE GAMES BEEN MISSIN JUELZ NEED TO GET BACK ON HIS GRIND HE FREE….. TALK BOUT SUM BITCHASSNESS CAM U HOE U 4 THAT SHYT ..N WHERE THE HELL IS RELL N WRITER
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413josh10 months ago
no offense or anything man, but you look like Paul Wall
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kingjames20610 months ago
im ready for new juelz he body any song he on thats my nigga him wayne an fab thats why nothing on me was of my top favs on tha carter 3 ‘These Surf Bord Dudes Get Wipe Out Totally’…..
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efdee10 months ago
I think ppl forgetting the bitchassness that Juelz displayed by goin on stage wit curtis. think abt it Cam gave him his career! D.I. wudve been much better without jimmy and juelz pathetic rhymes. and lol at Cam’s many haters still makin fun of dat pool. go watch the smack dvd wich features Cam he shows his yacht in his vacation home. forget dat the nigga got a Lambo so who cares if u got a bigger pool? DO U HAVE A LAMBO??? and which one of u e-thugs wud hav the balls to not giv up a lamborghini at gun point? “They mad my car like an elephant, the trunk in the front” Killa Cam is where the real talent resides at he 1 of those rappers that cud go commercial and still keep it lyrical. lookout for ‘Crime Pays’ this fall! btw Cam is chillin in Miami these days incase yall wondering
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phaze310 months ago
Dame talked all that shit about jay and look what his crew did.G-Unit dissed DIPSET they did a 360 andjump on stage with dem.Only Hell Rell said fuck g-unit while the rest of dem niggaz shut up.Now Cam is rich.they r sum dumb ass niggaz.
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pussymonster10 months ago
hell rell and j.r. writer need to leave the dipset label 2 cuz cam holdin them back !
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detroittalk10 months ago
Cam my nigga, but he was holding them back
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snyde10 months ago
Man I wish Juelz had his contract sold like 4 years ago…then that I Cant Feel My Face shit would have been done….maybe that would have kept wayne away from the vocoder and T-Pain
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napoleonblack10 months ago
WHAT THE GAMES BEEN MISSIN shold be juelz album name again…cause he is not droppin till 09 ?…lol but for real though when we going to get diplomatic immunity 3 ?…i saw the track listing…its going be dope so where is it ?…
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maine890710 months ago
So Is The I Cant Feel My Face Shit Coming Out Yet Cause Wayne Said They Already Finished It So Is It Gonna Drop Now
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macmilly710 months ago
cam a business man he aint tryna 2 b lyrical lol he been said dat on let me kno n juelz n dem kno how business go unlike most of ya punks on here n dats wat u get 4 bein disloyal u cant bite da hand dat feeds u shouts out 2 killa a real nigga STILL!
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biggjlmcq10 months ago
well, let me be the one to go on record and say this. juelz wont sell any records alone…he is gonna need the help of other artist to sell his records…dude is cool but he isn’t a strong seller…people dont wanna hear a dude hiccuppin or whatever that yungin be doin on every song that shit gets lame after u hear it twice.
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bigchucker10 months ago
Im a big dipset fan but before that i was a fan of camron but i had no idea cam was being bogus like that towards Santana, but props to to Juelz for not dissing cam even though cam was being a jerk he still put that nigga on. i have a feeling the regan era is goin to be a classic.
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celtics10 months ago
I bet there won’t be an I Can’t Feel My Face. Wayne went pop. He won’t retain his same crowd he sells to if he jumps off the mainstream bandwagon and gets back up on that fuckin gangsta shit.
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necter10 months ago
2009… DAMN!! I might be dead by then…
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problemva10 months ago
NIGGA killa has more money then anyone in dipset nigga dont give a fuck nigga is DIPSET
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coconutsausage10 months ago
who really wants to hear I cant feel my face, and here somebody get bodied on everysong
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mikeyeast10 months ago
DIPSET!! cant wait for the juelz album!!

holla at ya boy aaaaaaaaay
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ehype2510 months ago
CAM GRIMEY LIKE A MUTHA FUCKA.
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detroit10 months ago
Damn I been wondering what the fuck is up wit Juelz he was on the rise and almost disappeaared when Cam did. Wit this shit happening Juelz mite save Dipset. He goin bang out shit in 09’ and we probably be talkin bout he the best out.
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bostongeorge10 months ago
Juelz is gonna go offf once he gets he gets a shot to come correct..bein on Def Jam with Jay is the best place for him I think, whenever it drops..his next album is gonna be a classic I garauntee
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efdee10 months ago
CRIME PAYS NEW CAMRON ALBUM!!! COMING SOON THIS FALL
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ravenh2010 months ago
All Im gonna say is that I love Santana but u cant be a boss after a boss! And Cam is the boss regardless he’s been around the longest and these Harlem niggas wasnt even around when it was Cam & Mase so Cam can careless about these niggas situations! Juelz is hot but not hot enough to start another movement and the dipset movement is dead so idk what he’s talking about that it’s still moving! Aint no Harlem cats doing it right now Real Talk but Diddy….hahahahaha……..and that will be forever! Im riding with Cam on this 1 cuz Cam got wack when he started all this dipset shit so maybe he’ll go hard and bring that real Killa Cam outta him!
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757representa10 months ago
Those diplomatic immunity albums were strong, better than any sol album any of them put out, by far. Cam’s head began swellin’ after Dipset became the force snd he became Prince of NYC; he wanted to be king. Bad strategy turned money into a hermit, and hurt the rest of the Fam’s career. I hope everything works out for all of them, including Cam. I’d love to see them succesful, especially if they restore the Diplomat brand to the forefront.
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carolcitycartel10 months ago
hell jeaa cam been holdin him back
i been on juelz since the beginning
and i still cant feel my face!
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koniac10 months ago
cam a busta man i use to bang cam all the time but that ni99a got jeolous of Jim jones kuz now Jim is that ni99a to fuck with. And Cam didnt want Juelz to be bigger then him. But i would love to hear another Diplomats album man thats my fav eastkoast group man skull gang, bird gang, dipset man i bang that shit all the way out we9t. Cam man swollow the ego bro get back with your ni99as Juelz & Cam and put that Dipset album out …Im waiting..Oh and one more thing LMFAO when you boy gettin jumped (jim Jones) dont run away, go help that ni99a lol if you cant fight then grab something ni99a. DIPSET!
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deezy050810 months ago
Cam needs to let juelz do his thang…hes one of the best lyricst out…Cam must be jealous…fuck em
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deadlyd10 months ago
who listens to dipset???…REALLY
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kamron123459 months ago
Juelz is better off without dipset , he should juss stay wit def jam and make hits
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ignoranceinc8 months ago
Lets get something straight. No one listened to dipset because of juelz jimmy or rell. They listened because of camron. juelz will not make it on his own, nor will jimmy or rell. those niggas are pawns not bosses, and should play their part. skull gang is bullshit and so is byrdgang and if you think those albums are hot, you are deaf. why the fuck would cam clear this disloyal ass nigga to appear on someone else’s shit anyway? After that 50 cent stunt he did with jimmy’s punk ass i wouldnt have cleared this nigga to do shit either. You go on stage with my enemy and then wonder why im not clearing you to do anything else? Fuck ’em Cam, let these wana be boss niggas fail and come crying back.
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