1520 Sedgwick Avenue, located in the Bronx, has always been recognized where Hip Hop began in 1973, where DJ Kool Herc first extended break beats to promote more dancing and he first began to talk over the beat.
The high-profile investor, Mark Karasick, who is currently bidding for the building originally told tenant advocates he would withdraw his bid of $14 million.
The director of the Hip Hop Culture Center Curtis Sherrod explained the significance of the building's legacy. "In America, we tend to forget where things come from. Hip-hop was invented by poor people in a borough that's a forgotten borough," Sherrod said.
Last summer the location became eligible to be registered in state and national historic as "The Birthplace of Hip-Hop".
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"Just like The Grand Ole Opry, just like Graceland, just like the Apollo, Hip Hop is part of the American folk dance. It came from this building. That should be respected," Herc said in defense of the location.
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Leave the landmark alone. Like article says, they wouldn't fuck up country music or rock and roll birthplaces
Now if I choose to ride, thuggin' till the day I die
They don't give a fuck about us
While I'm kickin rhymes, getting to their children's minds
Now they give a fuck about us
They wanna see us die, they kick us every time we try
They don't give a fuck about us
So while I'm getting high, I'm watching as the world goes by
Cause they don't give a fuck about us...Pac...
=Cam=
^^one of the realest pac joints ever. and seems to fit dis article pretty damn well....
What song is that from?
they dont give a fuck about us -2pac on Better Dayz
Shouts to all the real hip hop heads that actually love that real shit and read this article.
Its real fucked up how they always try and ban anything pro hip hop or should I say pro minority. This building should have been turned into a hip hop museum from the national endowment for the arts.
Come on when you have kids from all coners of the world embrassing the culture so much that its thier way of life now.
What other musical or should I say art forms has contributited to molding man kind in such a way.
Way more influential than rock and roll, classical music or even jazz hip hop changed the world since its birth on sedgwick ave and cedar park in 1973.
PS. KEEP SUPPORTING REAL HIP HOP, IT GETS NO REALER THAN THIS!1
hip-hop is refered to as nigga music...so am not suprised they tryna bid to but the place cuz they dont really give 2-fucks about our genre of music
D.White, suck some dick or shit. You a stupid ignorant muthafucka. You prolly a true counrty music fan who just flaugin on this site.
wow, & you're calling me ignorant.
it would be stupid for them to allow anything to happen to the building due to how much havoc it would cause
I've got TWO THINGS TO SAY:
1. Again, I am BEGGING, PLEADING, AND URGING everyone, both oldheads AND youngboys, AND our sistas that are "up on ish", to PLEASE tune into MTV JAMS for the remainder of April, instead of say, wack ass 106 & Park, and catch all those old episodes of YO! MTV RAPS...
DISCLOSURE: There's NO Lil' Wayne, G-Unit, Dipset (maybe some Cam), or Soulja Boy. It's all late 80's & 90s stuff. I wasn't allowed to watch it as a kid, so even I AM SEEIN' MAD VIDEOS I NEVER saw before, even though most of the music I know. It's still VERY, VERY refreshing!
2. I saw Jay-Z, i.e. Jigga on a video with this group (I forgot the name) from 1989! I was like, "Wowwwww!" Remember on 01's Takeover, where he said, "...You've been in it 10, I've been in it 5, smarten up Nas"... only to find out that Jay was LYING the whole time, and Nas really was tellin' the truth... All the heavyweights entered the game around the SAME TIME! Late 80s, early 90s. Rappers be LYIN! IT'S ALL ENTERTAINMENT!!!!!
P.S. ANYONE HEARD ANY WORD ON THAT "NIGGER" droppin on April 27th??????
P.S. The title of the song is Can I Get Open? It's from '89 and Jay is on verse 3 AND in the video. It comes on Yo! MTV Raps, AND there was this episode where Busta was doin' a live show and Jay was in the background dancing around; my boy called me and told me to tune in, lol... It was Dumb funny. That was from like, '92.
They dont give a fuck about our culture!
Thats pretty obvious!
Hip hop is just as important as any other "national past-time"...people cry over resevoirs, rivers, Yankee Stadium, and monuments...but this is a monument. So don't treat it any different than any other buildings, it has significance, importance...so take it seriously. Learn it.
ReDef.
Yo they shouldn't sell dat building n it should b recogonized as a national landmark but lik n-word please said: "They dont give a fuck about our culture!
Thats pretty obvious!"
Hip hop might have started in the Bronx, but whatever the fuck they do..tear it down, keep it up, the life of hip hop depends on the fans and the people who buy the album,
hip hop is not dead and no matter what happens to the building it wont die, but to sell or buy this building would be just another slap in the face for those that respect hip hop and the culture it has created
for the love of music save the building
Couldn't of said it better.
PS: Only $14 mill for the building where one of the biggest genres of music started??? That's some bullshit considering the fact that hip-hop is a billion dollar business.
yo forreal...if jay can get a $150 mill record deal and whatnot... then damn its good the dude pulled his offer out..but to everyone saying white people will do that shit regardles..its not even about that..people in general gotta stop tryna fuck with hip hop, if anything it should go back to its roots
they ont care about us, they go out theyre way to save elvis' house in graceland and shix, and look how they do us....
If the investor pulled his 14 MILLION dollar bid out, he obviously gets it. He'll probably spread the word to other investors and by then it'll hopefully be registered like it should. This building def should nto be sold to be razed and leveled, this is the BIRTHPLACE of hip hop...politicans just need to let us have our site, and leave it alone.
They use hip hop 2 promote everything from Mc Donalds 2 car insurance but they still don't recognize that it's more than muzic, slang, and fashion. It's a culture just like any other culture & it needs 2 be respected, protected & preserved just like any other landmark would be... Whether they wanna accept it or not that building is a part of American history...
Man im sorry to say whyte people are gonna what they feel reguardless of what type of landmark it is. Money talks. If they wanna buy that land and make it into a mini mart then that will happen.
How'd the south kill hip-hop? Matter of fact, how is hip hop dead anyways?
damn u ok?? lol
listen to z-ro
or ludacris or scarface or andre 3000 or ti or ugk or 8ball and mjg or young buck.....
or young dro or jody breeze or rick ross or lil wayne or bg or some old cash money period or webbie or boosie or dead prez(they 4rm tallahasee florida bet yall aint kno that)
fuck outta here wit dat south killed hip-hop shit niggas put out wack music all around the globe nigga new york niggas than put out wack shit west coast niggas than put out wack shit quit bein biased
The South killed it. Here we go again with some lame ass on here trying to turn this into a North vs. South debate! If Hip Hop is dead its because of Closed Minded People as yourself Sadam! I will be the first to admit that the South have some here Today gone Tomorrow rappers, but which Region doesn't. To say the South killed Hip-Hop is a bit farfetched! Don't you think? Well of course not because you just posted a bunch of irrelevant info! Peace Up!!!
How the fuck a muthafuckin towel head gon call crackers the biggest crooks when its they terrorist asses that own all the oil and charge us a fuckin arm and leg for gas? Fuck u Saad, go the fuck back cross seas and blow urself up muthafucka. Smack the fuckin turban off ya head
its not liked yall lived there but i feel ur pain.
Shit i gotta get my money rite and get up there. Always wanted to go to NY. Hope they don't knock it down before i get up there. That would truly be an honor and a site to see..........
wat it matter
And all the bullshit comin from up top is sposed to be rap? Fat Joe vs. 50 is fuckin garbage. Lets talk about the Dipset soap opera. Oh wait, almost forgot bout all the controversy surrounding Papoose. Yeah, the north really fixin shit fuck boy
Ya'll quick 2 holla that bull shit cause ya'll fell off the map. That shit ain't nothin but hate. I'm a hip hop head & I'm from the south & I can run it wit any rapper you name from up north & that's some real shit... Shit, ya'll was quick 2 talk about Laffy Taffy but at the same time ya'll was doin the chicken noodle soup, ya'll quick 2 talk bout soldier boy when ya'll out there Harlem shakin & shit. The truth is hip hop ain't changed, it just relocated. The south got this shit on lock right now & untill ya'll stop cryin & complainin & actually start makin good muzic again we gonna keep this shit locked, believe that...
Cosign my dude. They do the same shit we do down here and been doin it for a long time.
i dont understand why these so-called "pro-hip hop" niggas like Russell Simmons, who probably had about $100 Million wont buy this place so it can be perserved. these niggas make all this monewy from hip hop, but dont want to invest any of it back into the culture unless it makes them some dough
lets not forget about diddy, jigga and 50, and thats just ny man, dre could buy it birdman could, fuck em could, they all eatin b/c of this place 4real
4 real, that's a good ass point...
Im still waiting for someone to turn this into a race issue.
Thats what it is right?
Aint that why this story was written?
No other genre of music has ever pointed out a building and said "Thats it!... Thats where our culture was born!"
Keep it real yall.
None of you niggas would shell out 14 million dollars for an old brick building in the bronx regaurdless of what may have gone on there before.
jay-z, russell simmons, diddy, 50 cent... they all could afford to buy it for shits and grins but you know why they havnt?
Cuz it aint shit but an old brick building.
The magic that sparked the movement is whats important.
and if that building is where that magic happen and the building still stands today then why knock it down. on some real dogg you know your comment was gonna get looked at wrong. if it was not for that building you would not be on this website. if it was not for that building you would not wear the clothes you wear or talk and have swagger like you do. if was not for that building not just minorities or black in America but minorities around the world would have no way to express themselves. I think that alot of niggas really forget how big and how influential hip-hop truly is. Dogg this form of music keeps niggas alive yo. Just imagine if out of your hang out spot or your crib you have been hailed as the first person, the originator of a world wide culture.... next thing you know somebody wants to knock ya house down. I bet if it was you it would not be SHIT but an old brick building. do understand that music alter moods and.......man fuck it i ain't gonna trash your comment but that shit got me heated.
^^^4real I'm indian what am I going to listen to, cowboys? FUCK THAT, I aint from a hood but I've been through a lil and rappers are are the only ones I connect with, nvr had a computer til a few months back and I'm 20
Nigga you never even KNEW THAT BUILDING EXISTED until this article.
Now watch you niggas trash me and call me wrong and point your ignorant little fingers at me.
When NONE of you niggas had ANY IDEA or knew what the fuck this bulding was before. Or had even heard of it.
any fan of hip-hop knows what that building is and where its at. wtf that corner/avenue has it own fucking clothes line.....come on homie niggas don't lack that much knowledge.......
I didnt know.
And Im a muthafuckin hip-hop afficianado.
Thats strictly a New York thing.
All this money floatin around in HIP HOP somebody better start a fund raiser..
www.bloodcuzinz.com
I cosign Bloodcuzinz! That is a simple, but straight to the point statement. If no one wants to just pay 14 milli. Just have a fund raiser. All these industries niggahs that are eating off HIP HOP can spend alittle and come up with the money. I am from the South born and raised, but I will pay Homage to the place that gave birth to Hip-Hop! Peace Up!!!!
why dont some1 what a rack of dough by the joint like 50 or Jay
i take that back... i dont want Jay or expecially 50 to have it... some1 else wit dough should tho
someone that wont turn it into a parking lot
what a bunch of fukin hypocrites... yall do know this dude was like the soulja boy in his generation... but yall call him hip hop... and yall say the crank dat shit garbage destroyed hip hop. all dat hip hop hibby da dip dap shit is some bullshit, some straight bullshit so people could break dance in the streets... its dance music bitches! but yall call it hip hop, go suck a toe or some shit...
U ignorant muthafucka, he was layin the foundation for hip hop. It was a evolution dumbass, it was started and changes were made and different ideas were put in play and that got hip hop where it stands today. How the fuck can compare him to Soulja Boy?
he didn't lay the foundation for gangsta rap, which pre-dominantly hip-hop today, the streets created gangsta rap, hence crip & bloods, you know... g's mufucka. you already lost your argument, quit trying to talk bad over the internet, it's a waste of life... i might talk bad but at least i have logic in my statements...
So, let's get a little more specific here Sun. Who do you see as the foundation of this so-called "Gangsta Rap" genre???
if you had they money you would have they problems and then you would give a damn about that building. The broke folks in the community need to hit the streets and library and find a way to keep, where theres a will theres a way, quit waiting on 50 or jay or uncle rus or diddy.
co-sign but at the same they do need to step up and do something tho for real. If i was a big name rapper and i could save that building and not suffer money wise, that shit would have been done. Do you understand the song that could be put together from that experience. Dogg in essence I would have saved HIP-HOP.........
if you say that the original hip hop wasn't about dancing like it is now then you're lying to yourself and your spirit, lol- just face it man, the truth hurts, soulja boy and all these lil mufukas just bringing hip hop back to it's roots, lol, some straight bullshit.
1973 is the birth of are secret lyrical art. Why don't all rappers who make their millions of it protect that place and out bid 14 mill and keep it fresh cuz just reading that article isn't right that street corner should be priceless.
That article fuck my morning at work, maybe even the whole day?
This would be like Hiroshima Pearl harbor 9/11 moments seriously, Man even revelations if you know what i mean....
honestly i never heard of the building or the dude and i dont think rappers care for it that much to buy it....they'll rather buy helicopters. and the south is making money regardless if you like it or not
^^^^^Wait you never heard of COOL HERC?????????????????????
Uhh dude??^^^^ I hate to disagree but really whos gettin money down there?? Not Mike Jones, Webbie, Lil Boosie or anyone that might still be on the Young/Cash money label. Fat Joe aint exactly ballin. I mean seriously do yall have 3 rappers that cracked the Forbes Top 100 entertainers of 2007?? No, you do not. Jay, Diddy, 50 are all in TOP 20. Think before you type. Crunk only lasted for so long, same with snap music. Didn't a north producer by the name of Timbaland body a south producer by the name of Scott Storch?? Didnt he almost drive Storch to being broke?? Didn't he apologive to Timbo and basically admit that Timbo almost ruined his career?? Also, how come the south never responds to the north??? Gillie and 50 both have called out "The South God" Lil Wayne, and he aint even tried to respond.Outkast, Face, Luda, Curren$yand 8 Ball and MJG are the real pitters down there.
because niggas in the south are laid back and dont give a fuck about all that shit new york niggas care about. Sure everybody loves cars moneys n hoes but down south niggas like to have fun. Up north niggas are hustleholics n shit and aint nothing wrong with that. have you ever been to the south? Theres not a city anywhere like New York or Chi town. They on a whole different level.
^^^^OK IF YOU SAY THEY ARE NOT BALLING.... DO THEY HAVE TRIPLE OF MONEY YOU GOT? YES....COULD U AFFORD 3 OF THERE OUTFITS WITHOUT GOING BROKE? NO....DID THEY MAKE YOUR LIFE SAVINGS IN ONE YEAR? YES....SO IF THATS NOT BALLIN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS....YA DIGG
The reason Artist from the South dont respond to someone calling us out! For what? What will it prove? That we can stoop to and adolescent level and result to name calling! Bickering like some school kids!!! GTFOH!!! We realiize that its enough money to be made in the industry! So we go and handle ours FUCK all that dissing bullshit. All the time spent worrying about another Rapper/Hip Hop artist! Can be spent making a CD and putting it on the market! True enough everyone you named is or have gotten that paper. And are listed in Forbes. But while you are sucking Up North's pipe! Who is getting money where you are at?!? Peace Up!!!
Oh, you talkin bout Willie the Squid? Wayne responded a couple times 2 Gillie but he ain't tryin 2 make a career out of it cause he don't need 2, he's where Gillie's tryin 2 be, why waste time and energy on that? As far as 50 goes, I don't think there's a doubt in anybodys mind that Wayne would DESTROY 50 easily but Wayne said he ain't sweatin that shit cause he respects 50s hustle & that he admits, 50 is financialy at the level he's tryin 2 get to... You talkin bout NOBODY responds 2 that shit but you only named 1 person. Why ain't nobody up north respond to Ceelo when he told them mu fuckers to "Fly Away"? We runnin this shit right now, we don't need 2 respond 2 shit cause we ain't in a position 2 prove anything 2 anybody... Shit, they need 2 prove they can make some music that'll sell...
This is the problem with the rap game now. People think that selling records or your Forbes status determines who's the baddest MC. Wrong!!!! Some of the sickest dudes on the planet don't get a chance to reach that status for all types of reasons. Be it mismanagement, promotion or what have U. The battle for supremacy was always a part of the craft. U can't reach/stay on top if you don't respond to challenges. That's Hip Hop. U got wicked MC's all over the planet. One region controls nothing. "On lock" means "everybody" is digging your shit. That shit that I hear out there now, that shit is for the yungins. If a cats lyrics don't make me hit the rewind button numerous times... I pass that shit off to my sons & nephews.
Why nobody up North responded to "Ceelo"??? I can't think of 1 dude up north that listens to "Ceelo"
You niggas kill me.
Kool Herc would rather be given 14 thousand dollars than see that building be kept around for 14 million.
Deny that all you want.
Praise herc. Hes the nigga that made it happen. He would have done it whether it was in the streets or in that building.
Fuck dat ho ass Nigga Dat wanna Buy OUR HOME
First Off.....Hip Hop Was A Form of Music Called Reggae that Transported From Jamaica To The US, But Since Everyone or most people in The U.S (The Bronx Specifically) spoke More Understandable English, They decided to call it "Rap".
Ya'll could thank DJ Kool Herc for being a Jamaican Immigrant.
That's how it started.....DJ's in J.A. started talking over the microphone; but eventually they decided to get help from someone else with better rhyming skills. In Jamaica that person would be called the "DJ". But in America They're not called "DJ's"; but they're called Rappers.
Hip Hop is Beyond Kool Herc.....He's Not even a Hip Hop Pioneer....He still has my respect though..
The shit your saying is worse than a lie.... its a perpetration.
PLEASE enlighten us all as to what blood clot rude boy jamaican MC came to america and started the best thing since sliced bread.
mr. president i guess these mufuckers can' handle the truth, lol- how can a person be on hip hop's nutz? wtf, talk about lames
Mr.president i think you need to be impeached. That was the dumbest shit I've ever seen. You stupid idiot, A DISC JOCKEY IS A DISC JOCKEY. do understand how long the DJ has been around. WTF. "In Jamaica that person would be called the "DJ". But in America They're not called "DJ's"; but they're called Rappers." So what the hell would you call Sugar Hill Gang and Curtis Blow??????? I can go on for like a whole page bout what you wrote. Next time pay attention to what you write and think it threw.
Pres is definitely on point with that. If U can't see the connection, then U ain't trying to C. Hip Hop is nothing but an americanized version of the Jamaican "Dance Hall" scene. Sound system + two turntables + microphone + lyrics + intrumental (aka break beat) and dancers. Herc brought that to the Bronx and it spreaded around the city like a virus. A good virus. I suggest some of yall do the history.