New Evidence Suggests Diddy and Biggie Knew of Pac Ambush

by Lyricalthought on March 17th, 2008

Rapper Tupac Shakur has been dead for over ten years and they have yet to find the killer. But almost 15 years after he was shot five times and pistol whipped outside of a New York recording studio, new evidence has surfaced, implying that a close friend of Hip Hop Mogul Sean Diddy Combs may have been the one to set up the heist.

http://media.defsounds.com/uploads/assets/2205/2217/7151/asset.jpg According to Pulitzer prize winner Chuck Phillips, Sean Combs was told personally about the planned Tupac ambush.

In an upcoming LA Times article set to hit their site today, FBI records and exclusive interviews with individuals who were at the studio that night support Pac's suspicions that Biggie and Diddy knew about the planned assault.

"Tupac was mostly right about what he wrote about [in his songs]," Phillips tells Allhiphop.com.

He goes on to say however, that Pac was wrong about BadBoy's involvement in the shooting.

"Tupac’s shooting at the Quad was really catalyst for everything that happened afterwards including his own death and including the death of Biggie, it started the whole thing off and if you lay it out in a timeline which I do, you can just see; it’s obvious and kind of sad for two guys to be this talented. I ended up with a much larger story than I imagined". Phillis continued.

According to Phillips, as well as sources familiar with the incident "Sabatino," the son of a reputed captain in the Colombo crime family, reportedly told Combs personally that Shakur would be attacked at Quad Recording Studio.

The article is slated to come out today, Monday March 17th, and will also have an interactive timeline, as well as audio clips from both Tupac and Biggie. You can click here later today to check it out.

 
 
 
 

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flameeffexabout 1 year ago
if this is true, diddy is mad fucked… no homo
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bigzabout 1 year ago
Shyne also coming for his ass now, Diddy is going down BIG TIME
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wiz10labout 1 year ago
I always said that Diddy knew waaay more than he made people believe he knew… so naturally I’m not surprised…


~Be Eazy!
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davanillaemceeabout 1 year ago
OH MY GOD 2PACS DEAD? WHO KILLED HIM? WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?
by the way check out my new video rhyming words only on the vanilla ones profile
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bonethugniggaabout 1 year ago
this is supposed to be news?
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timbalinabout 1 year ago
Well 50 said it best about Biggie.. I’m sure it goes the same for Pac:

“Who shot Biggie Smalls if we dont get them they gone kill us all, man Puffy know who hit that nigga, man that nigga soft, he scared them boys from the west side will break him off.. jump on his ass so he run to Harlem shake em off.”
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charismaticabout 1 year ago
Wiz10L,

OF COURSE Diddy and B.I. knew WAYYYY more than they ever let out in public. Duh! That doesn’t mean that they had anything to do with it.
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mextraabout 1 year ago
Damn I miss Pac…. But you know what’s done in the dark will always come to the light. You can’t spit in the wind and expect it not to hit you in the damn face.. One peeps..
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dsouthabout 1 year ago
Jelousy is a bitch, I know Big did it.
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dsouthabout 1 year ago
Jelousy is a bitch, I know Big did it.
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bluemercuryabout 1 year ago
Jus’ let the man rest!
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co2ballerabout 1 year ago
2pac was the biggest snitcher of all time.
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yankeesfan4247about 1 year ago
From the article:


Shakur’s friend Randy “Stretch” Walker was in on the plan, the sources said. In the hours before the attack, Shakur and Rosemond argued several times over the phone about how much Shakur would be paid. After the dispute was settled, Walker notified Agnant when Shakur was en route, the sources said.


Yall talking about diddy what about this nigga? ^^^^
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yaadyabout 1 year ago
if dis shit is true diddy better change is name to FUCKED
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betyalyfeabout 1 year ago
wow, no shit i could have told them that 11 years ago…i cant even explain how stupid that was for them to say that
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2realabout 1 year ago
Pussy ass soft Diddy. Dats how u know u fake when u send sum1 else 2 do ur dirty work.
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fresh25about 1 year ago
old news, pac been talkin about that before he died in the news and on his songs
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armagedon619about 1 year ago
For real, I’ve felt that way all along though. Pac said them niggas knew about it, that’s they hood why wouldn’t they and we all know how shaddy Lil Cease is and Pac said all them niggas was down there when he got shot. I don’t even like thinking about that shit cause it makes me mad.

Karma’s a bitch
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fresh25about 1 year ago
he even talked about it in a skit b4 one of his musik videos
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demarcusabout 1 year ago
Jimmy Henchman arranged Pac’s shooting, no doubt about it.
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detroitbredabout 1 year ago
and for all yall young cats jimmy henchman is the game manager, he’s more dirty than puff bitch ass
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chitown312about 1 year ago
if this true diddy is going to get assassinated by pac fans
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sxdoublexrabout 1 year ago
ill kill him for pac. westside!!!
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productionabout 1 year ago
Wow Fam Its Like That Lol Thats Messed
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jaybee925about 1 year ago
^^co-sign
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jaybee925about 1 year ago
^^(cosign to sxdoublexr’ comment)
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Yeah dat shit sounds good Sxdoublexr’s

but are u really gonna do 25 witta L to avenge ya favorite rappers death?
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productionabout 1 year ago
Exactly My Point
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productionabout 1 year ago
Exactly My Point
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nycfinest190about 1 year ago
fuck pac , he a bitch …
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standupguyabout 1 year ago
i think you a bitch
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Wow!!

I wouldnt say Pac was a bitch!

He wasnt no SuperGangster either but he had heart!

But he was a gentle dude. He liked to write poetry. He liked to act in plays and dramas dat didnt have nothin to do wit street shit.
He was actually just a back up dancer for a while.

I know yall niggas is gon hate me but dats not some gangster or Thug life type shit

I would never call him a bitch doe!!!!!!
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standupguyabout 1 year ago
I always beleived Pac. If you a true Pac fan then u understand why.
The cop who headed the Hip Hop Police Unit of the NYPD said this not too long ago in XXL. He said it was obvious if you just look at the facts.

R.I.P Pac, heard you loud and clear my G and still listening
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standupguyabout 1 year ago
and another thing. The nigga Biggie put out “Who Shot Ya” after the shooting. Only truly dumb no sense having niggas honestly thin “Who shot ya?” wasnt aimet at Pac although he aint stay on that topic for the whole song.

“Hard to creep through Brooklyn streets”
“It’s on nigga…”
“Do Rewind this, BAD BOY’S BEHIND THIS!!!”

Puffy in the background hollerin out “East Coast” hmm, wasnt this supposedly before the East Coast West Coast rivalry really jumped off.

Come on man, lets throw out all common sense and pretend that maybe Biggie wasnt going at Pac in this song, wouldnt he be intelligent and street wise enough to know that Pac would feel it was directed at him and see it as inflammitory?
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Come on Homie U reachin!

How many songs do Big got about shootin,robbin, and killin niggas before “who shot cha”?

If “gimme the loot” came out after Pac got shot then niggas would have said dat dat shit was about Pac!

Stop reachin for shit man!

Pac made all this shit happen because he wanted dat top spot and he didnt give a fuck about losin friends or makin enemies. He just wanted dat top spot!

Nuthin personal! Just business!

Wake da fuck up lil nigga!
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standupguyabout 1 year ago
you funny, “lil nigga”, lol.
Look son, Im a real nigga. I know street shit, dont get it fucked up. I came across this site and really liked it and it was a long time before i actually made an account and joined in the convo. This is one of maybe 5 sites i even be on the internet so understand when i type it aint from no lil nigga perspective.

If a nigga you know personally, just got shot in your own hood, in Biggies case Brooklyn. And he dont know who shot him or what it was about. Then he comes out saying he think you know something about it. And you in turn release a song called “WHO SHOT YA?” Where you state how hard it is for an outside nigga to be up in your hood (Brooklyn), declaring “It’s on nigga” and your manager is in the background screaming “East coast nigga”
Dont you think that man might take that personal? Dont you think Biggie would have been aware of that?
Cmon man, you cant see it or you dont want to?
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Ok big nigga…LOL

No disrepect intended!

But didnt Diddy also scream “Westcoast muthafucka” and “worldwide muthafucka”

I dont think he just screams Eastcoast on dat song!

If u get a chance to listen to dat shit let me know!
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standupguyabout 1 year ago
all good.

Imma listen to it, its been a while so imma check it out.

One correction though, I said he was shot in Brooklyn, I meant he was shot by Brooklyn niggas.
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rscrbcabout 1 year ago
diddy did it
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sargeabout 1 year ago
Hopefully this doesn’t lead to more violence in Hip Hop. I think if the truth ever came out about these killings it would destroy the entire Hip Hop community as we know it.

Alot of cats at these record companies were tied into dirty money and crooked dealings.
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neekoabout 1 year ago
diddy has always bin a “behind the scenes” type of dude……not surprised
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kevounceabout 1 year ago
who gives a fuck about what happened years b4 he got killed… nigga should have been smarter and stopped walking around like he was mr. untouchable… we even lost presidents to guns shots, so who’s care about a rapper
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chimereabout 1 year ago
thats actually true. i mean, how u gon be sayin a whole bunch of shit n not expect niggas to come after ur ass. as for diddy, that nigga has too much money. yall dont think he knows people are tryin to get at him. wit that much money he cant be as easily approached. im not tryna talk shit over pacs situation; im just statin them real facts
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charismaticabout 1 year ago
A) I never knew that “studio schedules” were PUBLIC.
B) I NEVER doubted that B.I. and Diddy DIDN’T have anything to do with it.
C) I WASN’T there and they both denied it, so this “new evidence”, whatever it was, doesn’t do it 4 me. Everytime defsounds puts up an article that says, “there’s new evidence”, I NEVER see the “new” evidence.
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geezyabout 1 year ago
nyc..u a bitch. fuck u and everything u stand 4, weak punkass bitch
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1oodollasmileabout 1 year ago
0 wow Geezy… I guess u goin hard….. but N E who… Pac Been Said Biggie & P.D. Either had sumthin 2 do wit 0r Knew about it and they just sayin sumthin Now… They Should just leave it alone And let Shyne Deal Wit Diddy when he get 0ut.

Welp Puff sucks 2 be U!!
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detroit313about 1 year ago
Man im so tired of diddy “The wanna be pretty boy…im doing something to help the black people….” man dont let diddy fool you he aint innoncent…he had something to do with pac being shot both times..so when he set that up thats what caused the coastal beef and thats why the 2 greatest rappers aint here no more…BUT KARMA IS A BITCH!!!!!!! Real talk
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xxalbertoxxabout 1 year ago
fuck diddy
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mikewasme2about 1 year ago
Kevounce you’z a bitch! Biggie dick rider, Puffy nutsucker…Yeah, they set Pac up and they some hoes for it. The same way Big got hit up in L.A. for Pac, the same is going to happen to Puffy and he deserves it. Weak ass NY niggaz…“musta shot me 5 times real niggaz don’t die”!
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Man what da fuck is wrong wit chall niggas???

Yall dont realize dat Big didnt need beef to be world famous….Pac did!

Even Snoop said he didnt diss Biggie because Biggie didnt want no problems wit nobody!

Pac started da shit and took it to another level once he got wit Suge!
And everybody know dat Suge hated BadBoy because they were becoming as famous and powerful as his label was!

None of this shit is personal!!! Its all about money!

Pac and Suge wanted to be on top so they went after the niggas who looked like they was on top at the time!

They didnt really hate Badboy personally! They just went after that top spot,which Badboy had at the time.

Yall niggas take dis rap shit too seriously!

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anyce909about 1 year ago
n word u r a fuckin dumbass. the whole beef started after pac got shot the first time. pac and big were homies before dat
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
A-nyce!

Whats your fuckin point dickhead!

The beef started after Pac got shot and they was homies before dat.
We all know dat!
Whats your point!

Is dat all u was tryna say???? I dont understand what chu just corrected me about….Do you!
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youngtimothyabout 1 year ago
Dude dry-snitched Shyne out in court, and thats supposed to be his dude. With that, why wouldnt Diddy have somethin to do with Pacs shooting. Of course he did, along with Suge.
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charismaticabout 1 year ago
Define “dry snitched”
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Man fuck dat dry snitched shit!

Unless Puff told Shyne to bring the nine and start poppin muhfuckas then he deserved to take da blame for dat shootin!

Puff got killas on the payroll already. So why would he tell an artist that he just gave a million dollar contract to to open fire in a club full of people?

I dont even love Diddy like dat…but I dont think its fair dat niggas say he did Shyne wrong. Shyne should have fuckin knew better.

He shot a lady in the face! Right through da fuckin eye! She wasnt fuckin wit nobody! So How is Puff a grimy nigga for not lyin about a situation that the law already knew da truth about anyway?
And how do u expect him to pay millions of dollars in lawyer fees for a nigga who just got him up in a fucked up situation?

You cant be loyal to a nigga who is self-destructive and is just gonna keep catchin case after!

It aint like he startin shootin in self-defense!
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jacktheripperabout 1 year ago
Everyone knows that Puff is a bitch, and aint really made nothing in his carrer. The only reason that anyone knows who dat nigga is, is because he wanted to hop his wack ass in every video that he could, and then he would have the nerve to set up one of the greatest of all time. All im saying is fuck puff
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danstaahabout 1 year ago
HAHA, FUCK PUFFY MAYNE LOOK AT HIM HES A BITCH ACTING ALL TUFF IN THE 90S NOW HES IN R&B SHIT WEARING DEM TIGHT ASS COSTUMES.. FUCK P DIDDY FUCK PIGGIE SMALLS, FUCK BADBOY RECRDS. 2PAC THE G.O.A.T RIP!!!!!!!!
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danstaahabout 1 year ago
man gimme a glock 45 and i pop dat true puffs head mayne
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thestatementabout 1 year ago
nigga shut up you aint gon do shyt
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justmeabout 1 year ago
yes because I am sure your harder then life! Your on the intenet talkin all that shit, knowing you ain’t about shit and wouldn’t do shit. Stop acting like you a put bull, when your really just a Pug dog!
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jerseycityniggaabout 1 year ago
why is this just coming out??? it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that, diddy is a crook. he’s the reason that two legends died too early at the peak of the career’s and he’s always been a shady business man at a label that biggie,the lox and mase put together but yet still releases b.i.g. cd’s that makes him turn around in his grave from shame.
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detroitbredabout 1 year ago
This why “hit em up” was so vicious R.I.P PAC
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danstaahabout 1 year ago
EY MAYNE, FUCK YOU NYC COCKSUCKER, YOU PUNKASS BITCH!!!
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psmurf954about 1 year ago
dude relax. get off them roids……..
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danstaahabout 1 year ago
FUCK P DIDDY HES A FUCKING COCKROACH I STOMP OM DEM NIGGAZ I BURY HIM ALIVE THAT COCKSUCKER
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justmeabout 1 year ago
I wish you would go outside and play in the streets, cus you sound and look so dumb. No one is even taking you seriously nigga. I dont know why ya’ll are acting suprised to all this shit..Ain’t no one going to ever be charged, you can’t charge on hearsay. And As for Diddy, you can say what you want, maybe he had something to do with it, maybe he didn’t. But I know this nigga DANSTAAH ain’t going to get close, and neither are a lot of others. So nigga, Shut the fuck up.
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ehype25about 1 year ago
SHYNE+THE NEW INFO=THEY COMING FO HIS ASS.
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darealnoreaggaabout 1 year ago
Shame….. All This Hopefully Won’t Lead To Anymore Unwanted Violence But At Tha End Of Tha Day Wut Must Be Done Should Be Handled. I’m No Saint By A Long Shot Nor Am I Sum Type Of Tyrant But, When A Nigga Cross Me Wrong I Do Handle Mines And Believe In Wut I Stand For But, At Tha Same Tyme We Really Don’t Need To Be Killin One Anotha. God Will Play His Part Just Right. I Might Sound Confused Or Lyke A Hypocrit But Truth Is I’m Infected Wit This Worlds Ways Of Imperfection Of Not Always Being Able To Make Tha Right Decesion. So In Actuallity I Feel Like Take That Niggaz Life Too But Also Feelin Like He’ll Get His Through Tyme Wether It’s 10 Mins From Now To 10 Years. Karma Don’t Play That Shyt!!!!! SCREAM AT ME,1..
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screamloxabout 1 year ago
RIP Puff Daddy over under 365 days for his ass, “Young niggaz in the wild life, Criminal mind of a juvenile still live a child life,,Thinking he can make his pay, Too in a rush, niggaz better slow down, CAUSE YOU CAN BE TOUCHED
i cant wait to read about Puff gettin touched i’ll be smokin drinkin and dancen all for 2pac THUGLIFE!!! Greatest Ever, HIS AIRNESS of Rap
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thatnicca704about 1 year ago
All ya’ll niggas hatin on diddy because ya’ll can read..the damn article saids diddy knew it was gonna happen,not he set the shit up! If somebody from a crime family comes to you and tells you they gonna hit somebody up are you gonna go snitch on them so they can come after you i would of been quiet too! Ya’ll some dumb muthafuckas! Diddy didn’t even like pac so whay would he say somethang about it????
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darealnoreaggaabout 1 year ago
Fucc U DumbNigga704. All Yall My Azz!!!! At Tha End Of Tha Day If A Nigga Didn’t Lyke Me And Heard Sumone Gon Handle Me. It Sounds Lyke He Too Pussy To Get At Me So Why Not Let Otha Niggaz Do Tha Job. U Get No Satisfaction From That. That’s Tha Lamest Shyt In Tha Book. Sounds Lyke U All Bout That Type Of Shyt. If Dude Didn’t Like Pac Lyke That He Might As Well Got A Piece Too But, He Didn’t He Bitched Out Cuz He Awwready Knew Wut Tyme It Was If He Did. Real Fuccin Coward Move By Diddy Real Fuccin Bitch Statement By DUMBNIGGA704!!!!
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chimereabout 1 year ago
ThatNicca704; thats true…in all honesty
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icebergchienabout 1 year ago
Honestly let’s it keep real, (I know it’s hard for some you fucks in here).
But real talk b, we been knowing this, this ain’t news to me. Pac said this all along, he made mad records shedding light to this incident. Word’s borne niggaz Killz Me in here, y’all know who Chuck Phillips is right? Ain’t this the same mo’fuka that wrote in the LA Times (this paper credibility has been in question for a while) that BIG was in Las Vegas paying a Mill to get Pac bodied the same night Pac got killed? when in fact reports & friends place Big in jersey at a Party that night. C’mon B, this Phillips cat been trying to make money of Big & Pac’s death, selling his patched up stories, this is the same man that just lost a law suit That Mama Wallace slapped him with b/c of his 1st LA times article on this matter.
Now today he comes back with this shit? Like I said we all knew this, that’s why Pac stopped fucking with the bad boy camps, remember Pac was mad close to BIG before this shit popped off. From what I understand Puff & Big wanted him jumped & beat up that night,b/c Pac wouldn’t sign a bad boy deal,…they never wanted him shot, but when them fools rushed Pac in the building lobby, he pulled out his 45 colt, then the spraying took place. Pac survived & he went on a full out lyrical offensive against the bad boy camp. But this we all knew right? Well please dust off you Pac records, bang out to them & listen especially Machiavelli he talks even about Jimmy Henchmen (Game’s manager) on record, I never even knew who he was back then.
So my anger really is to this Philips dude, he wants so bad to sell his lil Papers, but forgets that to some people this is a sore subject, people will get hurt over this fuckin article,,…I can see it already, people are doggin Puff, c’mon my niggaz Smarten up
Peace
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darealnoreaggaabout 1 year ago
(IceBergChein) I Like Tha Way U Approached That Instead Of Being On Sum “FUCC YALL MUTHAFUCCAZ Shyt!!” Props My Nigga. I’ll Pour One Up For U My Dawg. RESPECT!!!! SCREAM AT ME,1..
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icebergchienabout 1 year ago
DaRealNore you know I try to keep 100, I’m SF (sucker Free) my dude. I see you do the same…like I said mad cats from both camps could use this article as vehicles to go out & start actin a fool. I mean seriously my nigga, do you think this Damn reporter cares what happens after this? Hell No,…I’m pissed b/c this a story we all knew, it was allover Pac lyrics, so now this fool is trying to get paid for it,…if you ask me this is plagiarisms 1-0-1, I mean pac already spoke & wrote about this, now he comes around & copy & paste it in his fucken news paper? C’mon,…plus it’s predictable to the way us (black people) will act, bickering & arguing, while he’s laughing all the way to the bank.
Good lookin for the props my nigga
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Okay but are U saying they set him up to get beat up because he didnt want to sign a Badboy deal?
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joe211about 1 year ago
Theres no doubt that diddy was Involve, how the fuck u not no what goes down on he turf? Its like this bitch ass nigga spiderak a cock riding fag need to b killled
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darealnoreaggaabout 1 year ago
(IceBergChien) I See Exactly Wut U Sayin Bruh. I Can Agree Wit U On Sayin It’s Some Ol Copy And Paste Shyt And Yea This Will Cause A Lil Stir I Believe. Theres Plenty Otha Fans Out There That Took All That Pac And Biggie Situation To Anotha Level And Personal!! And This Hea Is Nothin But Anotha Case Of Addin Mo Fuel To A Dyin Fire That Really Isn’t Needed. And It’s Very True That The World Is On Some “Let’em Kill Themselves And Wipe Each Otha Out” Even Pimp C Said It Best On That “Knoccin Doors Down” Joint !! But I Feel U Cutty. Stay Up. SCREAM AT ME,1..
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sthamogulabout 1 year ago
Not for nothing, Pac knew that Diddy had something to do with it. But don’t you know Bad Boys live in silence and violence….
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thegreenmonsterabout 1 year ago
fuck this bullshit this shit pisses me off.have sum fuckin respect for the deceased(a legend) fuck diddy they should have killed his ass right after pac got shot.u know diddy knows whats up cause after pac and big, diddy started gettin all soft and tryin 2 help other people cause he knew what he did was fucked up and it got his friend killed. “god bless the dead”. RIP TUPAC SHAKUR
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yeaiknoabout 1 year ago
pour out ah lil liquor/ r.i.p thugslyle Pac
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timbalinabout 1 year ago
Well 50 said it best about Diddy in regards to Biggie.. I’m sure it goes the same for Pac:

“Who shot Biggie Smalls if we dont get them they gone kill us all, man Puffy know who hit that nigga, man that nigga soft, he scared them boys from the west side will break him off.. jump on his ass so he run to Harlem shake em off.”
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vanillafanabout 1 year ago
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It says that the treasure lies somewhere along the bisector of the angle formed by joining the palm tree to devils rock and devils rock to the skull.
Rougly copy the positions of the palm tree, devils rock and the skull. join them up and construck the angle bisector at devils rock to help Matthew find the path which the treasure lies.

wucka wucka freshh

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bigmikebooabout 1 year ago
yo all yall down south dudes or west side niggaz yall can talk that puff shit and biggie shit but leave ny niggaz out yall mouth 4 yoube the next nigga to get ya wig twisted
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darealnoreaggaabout 1 year ago
“yo all yall down south dudes or west side niggaz yall can talk that puff shit and biggie shit but leave ny niggaz out yall mouth 4 yoube the next nigga to get ya wig twisted”





R U Fuccin Serious?? Ha Ha Wow. How U Plan On Doin That Who Twistin Who Wig?? Not U Lil Homie!!! Pull Ya Water Gun Out And Aim At Tha Computer Under My Profile And Start Squirtin lil man LMAO. I Think U Were Really Serious Wit That Statement!!! I Ain’t Heard Sumthin So Funny Since My Daughter Said “No!” When A Lady Asked To Carry Her!!! Wig Twisted" Nigga By Who? Ha Ha. This Is Tha Internet Remember… That Tough Guy Shyt Ain’t Valid On Tha Net. SCREAM AT ME,1..
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305goonabout 1 year ago
305 305
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
OooooHHHHHH!!!

All Ya down south and westside niggas betta watch it!
I dont think dis nigga playin! LMAO

Now I dont know how he gon kill yall over the internet but…He said it so it must be possible!

I think yall need to find another Hip Hop site before somebody gets hurt! Cause dis niggas a ridah!

Ha ha ha!!! What a fuckin joke!!!! Be careful my Nigs!!!
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drywallabout 1 year ago
well diddy you know your lawyers might get you off but why does he have a personal videographer recording every moment of his life for when he gets caught…
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scrillstarabout 1 year ago
Diddy did it…
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vistreetsabout 1 year ago
if Jimmy was invole Yayo should of smacked his son even more
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vistreetsabout 1 year ago
if Jimmy was invole Yayo should of smacked his son even more
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dank1about 1 year ago
People have gotta let this shit go all this is gonna do is set Diddy up to get shot or one of his friends this is just gonna end up getting more people killed over some speculation MOVE ON
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detroit313about 1 year ago
DAMN PUFF DO U got the disease Bitchassness??…hhhmmmm b4 u create a new word question yourself
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monz3778about 1 year ago
This Biggie and Pac shit set the stage for the demise of true hiphop. Thugs and gangsters have no business in hiphop. a lot of talented rappers have died or been murdered. I chalk these deaths up to having Suge and not Dre around Pac. and in Biggies case It was just more heart than brains. He went to LA 6-7 months after Pac was killed.
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monz3778about 1 year ago
This Biggie and Pac shit set the stage for the demise of true hiphop. Thugs and gangsters have no business in hiphop. a lot of talented rappers have died or been murdered. I chalk these deaths up to having Suge and not Dre around Pac. and in Biggies case It was just more heart than brains. He went to LA 6-7 months after Pac was killed.
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no504about 1 year ago
pac has always said it. “how can this be you city and you dont know nigga got a hit out on me, how cant you know nigga wasnt gonna robb me”! and didy lied, he said that he called pac’s mom and got in contact wit his ppl. but pac mom said she never ever talked 2 diddy b4r or after that
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bklyn24about 1 year ago
2 pac and Biggie are the greatest rappers who ever lived. I am born and raised in brooklyn but they both were different type of rappers so therfor they hold the number 1 spot. Im sure all the bs they left behind here on earth and are having the time of there life right now!
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tchada86about 1 year ago
FUCK PUFFYFUCK U NIGGA
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victadominicangabout 1 year ago
Finally some shit worth reading…. this whole conspiracy is bigger than anyone thinks… Personally i think the goverment has something to do wit it but thats just my opinion… they needed tupac dead…. he was the most intellegent thug… they couldnt have someone like him leading people into the army of the century… what do u think killuminati stands for… KILL ILLUMINATI do ya home work and find out what the means… trust me you’ll be surprise to see how deep the rabbit whole goes… let me give ya a hint the whole east vs west shit started cause of vibe magazine… right, now who funds the magazine… time inc which is a time warner which is the worlds second largest media and entertainment conglomerate, right behind News Corporation, it owns basically every channel on tv… and the company is owned by non other then ted turnner lol look him up on youtube you’ll find some shit that will have you lookin at the world in a diffrent way
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fotkaliburabout 1 year ago
so if BIG n DIDDY knew about Pacs death then i believe SUGE killed BIGGIE! and i wont blame SUGE for that! if someone had my homeboy killed imma go kill that motherfucker weather its the Queen of England, Bin Laden or the Don of all Mafias!
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victadominicangabout 1 year ago
diddy has something to do wit it lol thats just scratching the surface… you’ll see everything links up from tupacs death to 9/11 and why the fuck we are in iraq (ancient Babylon) lol Killumanit runs through ya body blows like a twelve gage shotty FEEL ME!!!!!
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fotkaliburabout 1 year ago
but i believe it was the goverment, Pac was like Martin L.K and Malcolm X he had the power to change Black AMERICA!!!! although part of me says it could of been suge!
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brid3rabout 1 year ago
If this is true, i’m comin to america and beat the shit outta diddy, until then i just sit here and wait…
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victadominicangabout 1 year ago
yeah your right suge does have something to do wit it… the whole cover up was funded by him… the head of his bodyguards was a ex Lieutenant: a single gold bar (“Butter bar”), who supervises two to three sergeants…. the ex liutenant’s father was the the head of the gang unit who declared his death as gang related…
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vanillafanabout 1 year ago
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It says that the treasure lies somewhere along the bisector of the angle formed by joining the palm tree to devils rock and devils rock to the skull.
Rougly copy the positions of the palm tree, devils rock and the skull. join them up and construck the angle bisector at devils rock to help Matthew find the path which the treasure lies.

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victadominicangabout 1 year ago
Finally some shit worth reading…. this whole conspiracy is bigger than anyone thinks… Personally i think the goverment has something to do wit it but thats just my opinion… they needed tupac dead…. he was the most intellegent thug… they couldnt have someone like him leading people into the army of the century… what do u think killuminati stands for… KILL ILLUMINATI do ya home work and find out what the means… trust me you’ll be surprise to see how deep the rabbit whole goes… let me give ya a hint the whole east vs west shit started cause of vibe magazine… right, now who funds the magazine… time inc which is a time warner which is the worlds second largest media and entertainment conglomerate, right behind News Corporation, it owns basically every channel on tv… and the company is owned by non other then ted turnner lol look him up on youtube you’ll find some shit that will have you lookin at the world in a diffrent way
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myke24about 1 year ago
Keep your enemies close nigga…watch your homies
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swagspalshinabout 1 year ago
diddy has some skeletons in his closet for real that shit gon catch u to him sooo tho
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Man dis is a bunch of bullshit!!!

Big and Puff didnt have no reason to set Pac up! They was already on they way to blowin up and Pac was fadin fast around dat time!

He had just got dropped from whatever label he was on at the time and he was just a struggling artist!

He claimed dat they set him up out of Jealosy! But what were they jealous about??? B.i.g.s future was brighter than anybodies at that time!

Pac knew they didnt set him up. His feelins was hurt because they didnt seem to really give a fuck about his situation one way or the other! Plus they prolly knew about it and didnt wanna get involved by warning him!

Plus they knew dat being friends wit Pac means that your making enemies with alot of other niggas! Dats why Snoop always kept his distance from Pac!

I love Pac but he was full of shit! He blamed Big and Puff because that made for the most interesting story!

I dont think Pac really hated Big or Puff! He just did what he had to do to make sure that his name was out there too!

Pac would have sacrificed anything to be rich and famous!
Even his own life!



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dwnfrmday1about 1 year ago
damn that was the dumbist shit i heard in a long time.
N word please…
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standupguyabout 1 year ago
struggling artist???
Juice, Poetic Justice and Above the Rim all came out before the shooting.
Strictly 4 my niggas went Platinum
The Above the Rim Sountrack went double Platinum (Loyal to the Game, Pain, and Pour out a little Liquor on there)
Me against the World went double Platinum in like 7 months
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dagodabout 1 year ago
Like a couple of you hinted (Berg and Wiz), for people that were alive back in the mid 90s and for the people that actually listen to Pac records, NONE OF THIS IS NEW.

Puff is a cut-throat ass nigga. He burned many bridges to get where he is at now. With that said I honestly don’t believe that Puff wanted Pac to get robbed or even killed for that matter. Puff was/is a big ass figure in NYC so obviously he knows a lot of people there. So it’s not surprising to me if Puff knew the guy that tried to rob/kill Pac. Also I want proof of this shit from Chuck Phillips about the guy that robbed Pac informing Puff about it before he did it. Because I honestly don’t believe that shit. CHUCK PHILLIPS NEEDS TO COME WITH ACTUAL FACTS/PROOF BEFORE HE TRIES TO DESTROY A MAN’S CAREER/LIVLEYHOOD. I’m not one of these simple minded dudes that just goes after niggas on witch-hunts w/o any proof. Just b/c Puff knew the nigga that robbed Pac doesn’t mean he assigned a hit out on Pac. LOL. That’s ridiculous.
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Man I been tryna tell Niggas Dat Diddy is a gangsta when it comes to his money!

But Pac didnt really make or break Diddy when it came to his money so what would Diddy or Big have to gain by helpin or hurtin’ Pac in any type of way

BadBoy records didnt need any kind of beef or controversy to get noticed!

Pac did!!!
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dagodabout 1 year ago
Exactly n-word, what the fuck did Puff and BIG have to gain by killing Pac?? BIG was already blowing up major wit Ready2Die. If anything Pac needed some kind of controversy to sell b/c before All Eyez on Me (the official name dropping album) Pac’s albums were going tripe wood. He didn’t do those huge numbers until he died.

For the people that were actually alive in those times (early 90s) the biggest stars in the West were by far Snoop and Dre and even Cube. Pac was no where on their radar. Matter fact Pac wasn’t even that major until he signed wit Death Row. He was mostly a local artist. He had one significant big hit before he signed to Deathrow and that was “Dear Mama”. Every other minor hit “Brenda’s got a baby”, “I get around”, “How long will they mourn me” etc….were all for the most part on that local west coast shit. Pac needed some controversy to be known as a national star whereas Dre and Snoop where already big stars. Also BIG was blowing up major with or without Pac, BIG actually sold records based off of hits not name dropping.

Don’t get it twisted, I love Pac he’s one of my fav artists of all time he made classic music, I’m just telling yall how it was back then. He wasn’t really major until he signed wit Deathrow———that’s when all the fuck Mobb Deep, BIG, Nas and Jay-Z shit happened. Pac even said it on one of his interviews that this shit was entertainment.
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standupguyabout 1 year ago
You niggas obviously dont know shit!!!

Juice, Poetic Justice and Above the Rim all came out before the shooting.

Strictly 4 my niggas went Platinum
The Above the Rim Sountrack went double Platinum
Me against the World went double Platinum in 7 months.

Dan Quale had already spok out agaist him, he had already sued the LAPD, he had already shot at those 2 cops in Atlanta, he had already beat up the Hughes Brothers, and he was already on trial.

Tupac was Huuuuge before the shooting and before Death Row. You just aint listen to him, oh well, thats you.

Pac said he felt them niggas had something to do with it, so if thats what he felt, I believe him. He has more credibility with me than any nigga in the entertainment industry.
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Standup Guy!

U obviusly dont know what da fuck u talkin bout!

I dont care how many successful Pac projects u name. They obviously werent successful enough to make him rich!

Because when he died his personal bank accounts didnt contain much money.

Your also talkin about the mid-90’s before rappers really had there business game right!

Pac generated millions and millions of dollars that he never saw!

You can say what chu want but Pac didnt become a superstar until he joined Deathrow.

He was indeed a struggling artist without a record label when he got shot at Quad studios!

So how come he just got dropped from his label if he was blowin up at dat time

What label was he on before Deathrow?

How come he signed with Deathrow fresh out of jail? Where was his record label? They just gave up an artist who was as successful as u claim he was with no problem? LOL

I know U a Pac fan Stand up Guy…..I am too
But dont let cha love for Pac make U say dumbshit my nigga!
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standupguyabout 1 year ago
I thought we was talkin about fame and stardom, not money per say. As far as Fame and stardom goes Pac had that waay before the shooting. Was he super rich at that point? I dont know, I do know he had already went Platinum and had done 3 major movies so you really think he was struggling. Come on son. Struggling?

Oh and what Label was he on? Interscope nigga!!! You know, Death Row’s parent company. He had a two album deal, released 2pacalypse and Stricty4, then started his own label, Out The Gutta Records, that he relesed Me Against the World on and went double platinum and debuted at number 1 on the billboard!!! On his own label!!!
Come on son. Struggling?
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
LOL !!

Muthafucka Please. LOL!!!

So if thats the case then why did he need Suges money to get out of jail???

If u own a record label which has a Double platinum album then that would make U a Multi-millionaire wouldnt it?

And im not saying that he wasnt on Interscope or whatever!

But Jimmy Lovine(the owner of interscope) is a fuckin genius and a certified money maker. So why the fuck would he let Pac be a free agent for even 1 minute if he was already a Superstar at the time?

U got too many holes in ya argument my dude!

Tupac was a celebrity when he got shot the first time and survived.
He was an international Superstar when he got shot the second time!

Are U tellin me that he was just as famous before he got shot the first time?
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standupguyabout 1 year ago
He was a much bigger star on Death Row, no doubt. But youre downplaying his level of stardom prior to Death Row.
He was a certified star at that point.

As far as him owning the label, look it up. Wikipedia or google it. Whatever. Youll find that it’s true, hell I wouldnt be surprised if Out Da Gutta wasnt distributed by Interscope anyway thus cuttin Iovine into the action. But regardless if you do the research you find that Me Against the World was released under Out Da Gutta Records and went double.
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Ok stand up Guy!

You seem pretty sure about the Out the Gutta thing so im not even gonna dispute dat. I beleive you.

But chu gotta understand dat just cause me and u been knowin about Pac since forever dont mean dat the whole world was up on him…cause they damn sure wasnt.

Pac really wanted to be a revolutionary!
He wanted to make music to uplift the black community.

Nobody outside the black community wanted to hear dat shit!

He didnt really get much attention until he made dat Thug life shit his main thing.

He just had to find out what worked best for him as an artist and learn what people wanted to hear from him.

Which is why I used the term strugglin artist! Back then people outside the hood only knew Pac because of his legal trouble!
And those movies that chu named was only big in the hood my dude!
Pac didnt become a Star until he joined dat DeathRow roster!
Before dat he was just another celebrity!
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moneydadonabout 1 year ago
n word you honestly do not know what you are talkin bout im not taking sides cuz you both make valid points but your statements are biased and just because u go double platinum dont mean you making shit you said it yourself it was the 90s before niggas had their buisness game up you contradicted yourself countlessly
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Money money Money!

Come on homie what da fuck is u talkin bout!

I aint biased I prolly Like Pac music more than U do nigga!

Tell me how I contradicted myself!

When I said niggas didnt have there business right back then I was talkin bout rappers gettin fucked by music labels!

But if Pac owned a label then that meant he had his business right already! If U go double plat and U own the label then you got money!

But if dats the case then why didnt he have any money when he died and why did he want to leave Deathrow to start Makaveli records if he already had a successful label that he owned since the early 90’s…..Huh????

And U said I contradicted myself countlessly!
Give me one example!!!
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standupguyabout 1 year ago
ay you know what n’, the more I read your posts the more I see that you do fuck wit Pac and your posts aint coming from the perspective of a hater which is how it seemed to me at first.

Death Row made him a bigger star, no question. But my point was that he was a big enough star at that point that he did not need to ride Biggie nor Badboys coattails, or use them as a gimmick for success. He was a star already.

Yes the movies were hood classiscs and not Will Smith blockbusters but were talking about hip hop in the early to mid 90’s, not the 2000’s. Were talking about the hood, the black community and the hip hop community. Not neccesarilly the maintream at that point. It was Bad Boy who helped to bring hip hop mainstream, but not with Ready to Die!!
If you feel Pac didnt have the stardom at that point, Biggie sure as hell didnt. If Pac was struggling, Biggie was struggling like a mothafucka!!!

As far as Out Da Gutta, I just looked it up and not only was M.A.T.W realeased under it but so was THUG LIFE Vol. 1, and it was distributed by Interscope so there ya go. Pac did 2 albums under Interscope directly, then worked out an Label deal with them, released 2 more under his label with their distrobution, got locked up, and came back out to Interscope, but through Death Row, who just had a stronger buzz and movement at the time than trying to come out a start again from scratch with his shit.
Im guessing Interscope raped him on the label deal thats why he didnt get too paid off “Me” going double and eventually triple.
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moneydadonabout 1 year ago
First it dont take a lot to start a label up my dude anybody can with a couple grand and my point about jay z was a general statement i agree he didnt get big untill it was time for a another nigga with similar style to join the game which he didnt have untill he started rappin like big (nigga spit hella fast for a min then swithched it up) im sayin you comin out like the beef between them was a publicity stunt for pac to make a name for himself in the country i believe thats just what ended up happening it also made big the same household name im on the west coast and we dont bump BIG music like we do pac but the beef put alot niggas on to BIG who wouldnt have listened to him it worked both ways
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Fuck wit Pac!

Im a Pac fanatic nigga!

But I still try da call da shit str8 down the middle u know!

So if we get into a Pac discussion im not just gon say all positive shit and leave the negative shit out.

But dat dont mean I love dat nigga no less than yall!

I just gotta keep it 1hunnid dats all
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Stand up Guy! Before u do anything just think about dis!

U said Pac was a big enough star without ridin Biggies coat tail right?

But if u know Tupac than you dat he didnt just wanna be a big enough star!
He wanted to be the biggest star in the fuckin world!

He wanted to be the greatest entertainer of all time!
He wasnt acceptin no less than number fuckin 1!

Dats da kind of passion and the drive he had!

Pac gave us (the fans) his fuckin life

He knew he wasnt gon live long actin like dat!
But he acted like dat anyway because we (the fans) couldnt get enough of dat shit

How many other niggas write multiple songs just for the day they Die and say “release this song if I die this way” or “put this song out if I die that way”????…. Nobody!!!

Only Pac was willin to die for this shit!!!
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Money!

U right about 1 thing that beef did make Biggie more famous dat goes without saying!

But Big didnt want dat kind of publicity because he was already poised to blow da fuck up!

He was already gonna blow with his next album without any type of controversy!

Im tellin you he had more momentum than any rapper in the game at dat time.

What Pac did was he became the underdog. He became the voice of the niggas who didnt wanna see all dat pretty boy flashy shit dat Badboy was doing at da time and it worked.

Im tellin you man Pac was chess player (not checkers)

Some of da shit was personal but at the end of the day it was just business!!!

And Pac knew how to handle his business!!
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heartofagabout 1 year ago
reportedly told Combs personally that Shakur would be attacked at Quad Recording Studio.

that says he knew not that he had anything to do with it
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dboi07about 1 year ago
Sup Wit Dez East Coast Niggaz Man
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heartofagabout 1 year ago
???
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thewraithabout 1 year ago
u niggas r corns for thinkin BIG had n e thing to do with this shit…how would BIG have this nigga murked but not diss him back for that hit em up track?? its def Puff n Suge who had both them niggas murked….yall forget some nigga had EVIDENECE THAT puff had BIG murked but his lawyers ate that dude up and forced a gag order….as for pac…u think big ass suge was gon get protected by pac when he got wet up?!?!? he only got grazed? cmon….BIG was gon leave Badboy, n pac leave deathrow, puff n suge wasnt havent that figured they were worth more death than alive….that the damn truth…fuck puff i hate that in the closet homo i hope shynes niggas put him in the dirt
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schizniccaabout 1 year ago
no suprise, everybody should know Puff is a foul ass nicca
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dyoungin89about 1 year ago
man thats fucked up
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fuckouttahereabout 1 year ago
once i again i think this is another bs story 2 get everyones attention of the tru story that the cops killed both of em..pac for his message…and then biggie so it would all look like both sides killed each other….ever since then no rapper has spoke the truth and probably never will because that not what the mainstream wants…rip pac n big
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fuckouttahereabout 1 year ago
once i again i think this is another bs story 2 get everyones attention of the tru story that the cops killed both of em..pac for his message…and then biggie so it would all look like both sides killed each other….ever since then no rapper has spoke the truth and probably never will because that not what the mainstream wants…rip pac n big
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ehype25about 1 year ago
I THINK WE SHOULD PRE-POUR OUT A LIL LIQUOR FOR DIDDY.
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notorious12uabout 1 year ago
I’m getting so sick of this bull shit beef in hip hop….

Can we just let these men REST IN PEACE ……..??

RIP 2PAC
RIP BIGGIE SMALLZ

2 of the greatest to ever do it !
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datdudechrisabout 1 year ago
I never had a reason 4 hatin Diddy but if this shit is true then I do now!
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lucdoggabout 1 year ago
Read that article that is linked to this and listen to what pac says in his songs…its def tru biggie and diddy might not of set em up but they knew what is goin on try and act they didnt know nuttin fuck that…TUPAC=GREATEST OF ALL TIME….fuck the people he ran wit bunch of snakes
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dagodabout 1 year ago
“You niggas obviously dont know shit!!!

Juice, Poetic Justice and Above the Rim all came out before the shooting.

Strictly 4 my niggas went Platinum
The Above the Rim Sountrack went double Platinum
Me against the World went double Platinum in 7 months."———-StandUpGuy
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My man, Strictly4myniggaz went plat like in the last 8 years. It wasn’t plat in the 90s. Also “Me Agianst the world” (Pac’s best album by the way) did do numbers and I said that. His major hit “Dear mama” is the reason why. I said that was his 1 major hit that was felt nationally and not just locally. Also those albums’ sales numbers increased a lot after he died. Pac’s death caused all his album sales to increase. It’s not like Stricly.. went plat when he was alive. Matter fact his debut album to this day isn’t platinum(2pacalypse now). I’m pretty sure Thug Life isn’t plat.

If Pac was so big why didn’t like 2 of his four albums when he was alive go platinum?? Also the Above the rim soundtrack had a shit load of other artists to help it go platinum my man.

And all those movies you named were hood classics no doubt. But you act like Pac was on some Will Smith movie type shit back then. Those movies were not huge blockbusters, it’s not like Pac was known nationally because of “Juice”. When Juice first came out IT WASN’T EVEN THAT BIG. Juice eventually became a recognized movie, especially after his death.

Believe me I listened to Pac back then, that’s why I’m telling you this. I’m speaking from experience my man. I’m one of the few people that actually bought “2paclaypse Now” back then. That was a great album too. But my point is, Pac was not a “big” artist before Deathrow. Like I said before Snoop and Dre were BY FAR the biggest artists in the west coast from like 91’-95’. Pac couldn’t even stand out because of them dudes. Snoop and Dre were smashing everything back then. It wasn’t until Pac signed with Deathrow and started name dropping that he really got a national audience. His feud with B.I.G sky rocketed Pac to another level of stardom—————-THAT’S A FACT, ask anyone that was alive in the 90s and old enough to remember they’ll tell you the same thing.
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standupguyabout 1 year ago
My man, in 96 when Pac was killed, you were 12. In 94 when he was shot, you were 10. His career prior to that, you were in single didgets. So what could you really tell me about the 90’s?

Sorry but Strictly 4 was Certified Gold September 24, 1993 and Certified Platinum April 19, 1995. Pac was killed Sept of 96.

The only Album to not go platinum before his death was his very first album 2pacalypse now. Every one after that went plat while he was alive to enjoy it.
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Ha ha

Da God! are me and U speakin french my dude?

What is it dat deez niggas dont understand?

Pac is da fuckin man. Aint nobody sayin he aint. All we sayin is dat he wasnt a household name until he started runnin wit Deathrow!

We not sayin that he didnt have talent before dat we just sayin dat he needed that Deathrow name and image to take his fame to another level.

I dont care how much talent you got u still gotta find the right situation to become a Superstar!

Look at how talented Jay-z is! But Before Big and Pac died he was just another rapper.
He needed the right situation to become a Superstar!


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moneydadonabout 1 year ago
na n word you said pac needed this beef to gain publicity…..then you said he needed death row make up your mind
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moneydadonabout 1 year ago
^^^^^^^^^Jay z needed BIG’s rhymes and swag to become a superstar
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Money da Don!

He needed both to become a household name!

I didnt fuckin stutter!

And I didnt say Jay needed Bigs rhymes or swag to become a Star

I said he didnt become a Superstar until Big and Pac died

Cause when they was alive it wasnt no room for no other niggas to blow

They had the whole Game locked down!

What is it dat chu dont agree wit?
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standupguyabout 1 year ago
Yo “n”, I agree with you on the Jay-Z point. 100%
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Pay attention Money Da don!

All dat dissin other rappers was part of the Deathrow image and swagger!

So the beef wit Badboy went hand in hand wit being a Deathrow artist

So i dont have to make up my mind I already said he used both to take his fame to another level!

I not sure how much u really know but the first artist to drop on Deathrow was Dr Dre!

His first video was “Still Dre Day”….A dis record aimed at Easy-E and Uncle Luke!

A dis record! That was Deathrow at its finest!
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Stand Up Guy:

Yeah because me and U remember when Jay was a new artist.

And as talented as he was dat shit wasnt enough to make him a rap Superstar.

I remember when he wanted to work wit Foxy more than she wanted to work wit him! Now a days he wont even talk to dat bitch!
I remember when he used to look up to Nas and he was on Nas dick str8 up

And he used to always want tracks from Preemo

But once he made a name for himself he said fuck all dem niggas!

I
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dagodabout 1 year ago
“My man, in 96 when Pac was killed, you were 12. In 94 when he was shot, you were 10. His career prior to that, you were in single didgets. So what could you really tell me about the 90’s?

Sorry but Strictly 4 was Certified Gold September 24, 1993 and Certified Platinum April 19, 1995. Pac was killed Sept of 96.

The only Album to not go platinum before his death was his very first album 2pacalypse now. Every one after that went plat while he was alive to enjoy it."————————StandUpGuy

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^^That’s was a cop out my man. WTF does my age have to do with my argument of Pac being a bigger name after his BIG feud?? You act like I was two or three when that shit went down. I was fully aware of all the shit that was going down back in the 90s, especially in the mid 90s. Stick to the topic and stop coppin out by bringing up other shit.

Also Thug Life along with 2paclaypse Now didn’t go plat when he was alive. That’s two albums not one. And where are you getting those album sales from?? You prolly on one of the 2pac sites getting those numbers. Those fan made sites can’t be trusted fam and it’s obviously gonna be bias b/c it’s dedicated to Pac.

I can’t keep arguing over this shit, it’s going no where. I was not lying at all when I said the B.I.G feud made Pac a bigger celebrity and you’re lying to yourself if you don’t think so StandUpGuy. You were what 16 in 94’-95’?? So you knew damn well what was going on. Stop fronting nigga. You know that the B.I.G beef helped Pac become a bigger name and sell more records. You didn’t have to be 25 years old in the mid 1990s to recognize that shit.

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standupguyabout 1 year ago
“Believe me I listened to Pac back then, that’s why I’m telling you this. I’m speaking from experience my man.”

“ask anyone that was alive in the 90s and old enough to remember they’ll tell you the same thing.”

These quotes the only reason I brought up the age thing. You talkin as if I dont remember the 90’s, as if I was wasnt there and old enough, like I need somebody to tell me. I’ll tell YOU about the 90’s if anything

Dont get mad tho, you my nigga. This has been the best convo i’ve had on this motha fucka so I aint trippin, we talkin bout Pac and I can do that all day.

Again, yes the beef and Death Row made him bigger, but if you look at both you and n’s origional posts, yall were making it seem as if he NEEDED the beef.
You said he was local artist who went wood before All Eyes and was on nobody’s radar. That’s where the disagreement is. Thats where youre incredibly wrong. Strictly and Me agaist went platinum. Me Against went double in months, debuted at #1, and i believe at the time held the record for time spent at #1 for a male rap artist. All this without BEEF. Thug Life was a group album and hardly promoted at all at the time. And he had three movies out already. He was a bonified star. If you didnt know that, it only reflects on you and your level of inclusion on what was popping or not at the time.

Anything I say can be researched and found to be true as far as numbers go so you can do that on your own time if you wanna.
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jerseycityniggaabout 1 year ago
you left out “all eyes on me” by pac
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psmurf954about 1 year ago
Interesting…
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sk8boardchrisabout 1 year ago
…………………………. It’s fucking 2008 people let the shit go!!!!
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Nigga go ride ya sk8board and stay da fuck outta grown peoples business!!

And Bj Daniels….obviously da shit matters to us or we wouldnt be discussin it!

Why dont chall 2 niggas got listen to SouljaBoy or whatever da fuck yall lame ass niggas is into!
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moneydadonabout 1 year ago
hate to do it but gotta prop ya “n” get these niggas outta here
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datballa32about 1 year ago
I knew Diddy was a fake. I knew he was frontin’ since I saw the interviews.
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bjdanielsabout 1 year ago
the nigga dead already
do it really matter
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jerseycityniggaabout 1 year ago
sk8boardchris and bj_daniels…..if your mom or dad or sister/brother or any family member gets killed, would you want the murder to go unsolved?? some of you cats are ignorant.
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sk8boardchrisabout 1 year ago
JerseyCityNigga^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I understand what you saying but they don’t give a fuck about that murder mann we all know that. The media don’t got shit to write about so they bring this shit back up in a new way shape or form every time. That’s was wrong with hip hop now ……… niggas is stuck in the past every nigga out now trying to be BIG or Pac and those niggas wasn’t trying to do shit but push the envelope for hip hop and they did but now look at all these niggas with copy cat flows. I’m just saying let them niggas rest in peace cuzz they haven’t got a decent year yet. Niggas come up missing everyday and never know what happened. Of course we all wanna know who did the shit but if we did the legend wouldn’t be they same at all. As much technology they got out now they coulda been found that shit out cuzz if it was those twins Mary Kate and Ashley that got murdered they woulda found that shit out so fast man. They gone let us know when attention ain’t drawn 2 them no more. That goes to show you that a lot of niggas that’s out now ain’t shit cuzz it wasn’t room 4real to just pop up and be talking bout KRS one and Rakim when Pac and BIG was in the game because there was no room too. That’s fucked up when 2 niggas died over 10 years ago and is being talked about more than a new aritist and you a new artist. Hip hop need new heavy hitters. That’s whats trying to happen now………… you don’t see that?
(Lupe, Cool kids…… allot of shit is on the way the stage is being set right now but for the real new to come we gotta let the past go appreciate it but let it go. SO ONCE AGAIN PEOPLE!!!!! …………………………. It’s fucking 2008 people let the shit go!!!!
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jerseycityniggaabout 1 year ago
sk8boardchris and bj_daniels…..if your mom or dad or sister/brother or any family member gets killed, would you want the murder to go unsolved?? some of you cats are ignorant.
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owtthugzabout 1 year ago
Man we been knew diddy and biggie knew who did it but it was some gangsta nikkaz they if they would of told they ass would have been next forreal so they wasn’t gonna snitch So its like i know some nikkaz dats gonna rob and try to kill another nikka i don’t fukk with why the fukk would i tell and snitch on these nikkaz i know
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xavier23about 1 year ago
All I can say is if this is true on Diddy’s behalf then that is messed up. All these year he could of spoke on a situation like this. I feel that would not be a snitching thing. The thing that has me trippin, is that Biggie is said to know something before he was killed. That’s some crazy shit. But R.I.P. to 2Pac and Big.
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psyberkayosabout 1 year ago
How come they still haven’t found Big and Pac’s murderers, but they arrest O.J. Simpson the next day!?!? – Dave Chappelle
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fatzabout 1 year ago
biggie my favorite rapper and all but i already knew that he had something to do with it look how fast he got got ya feel me put 2 and 2 togethere always get 4 but far as diddy he look like he aint got a oz of thug in him shorty need to just chill and produce something cuz if he got to go to jail he goin get it and im out peace
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crookeddonabout 1 year ago
Uhhhh! WOW!!
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dniceabout 1 year ago
you a fagot crooked don quit rideing wayne sac
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sk8boardchrisabout 1 year ago
You guys iz getting real disrespectful 4real. It’s one thing to be able voice your opinion but you don’t see me on defsounds dissing niggas cuzz you never know who you might be talking to. That’s something you should keep in mind cuzz if you honestly didn’t know a motherfucker you surely wouldn’t say some disrespectful shit like that cuzz anything could happen. That’s why I hate message boards cuzz it makes bitch niggas everyday who on mute in real life but they get on this mother fucka and feel invincible. I hate those kinda niggas.

N-word please ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ learn some manners ASAP 4 a motherfucka skool ya ass brotha. What the hells wrong with niggas today you just don’t walk around doing that kinda shit WTF ehats some crash dummy shit.
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
Aw man shut da hell up!

U was outta line nigga!

We dont need no public service annoucement either!

We didnt come at chu. U came at us

So stop cryin! Hop on ya lil sk8board and kick,push and coast ya dumb ass all da way to Hell

R.I.P. Pac & B.I.G
we still care!
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sk8boardchrisabout 1 year ago
JerseyCityNigga^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I understand what you saying but they don’t give a fuck about that murder mann we all know that. The media don’t got shit to write about so they bring this shit back up in a new way shape or form every time. That’s was wrong with hip hop now ……… niggas is stuck in the past every nigga out now trying to be BIG or Pac and those niggas wasn’t trying to do shit but push the envelope for hip hop and they did but now look at all these niggas with copy cat flows. I’m just saying let them niggas rest in peace cuzz they haven’t got a decent year yet. Niggas come up missing everyday and never know what happened. Of course we all wanna know who did the shit but if we did the legend wouldn’t be they same at all. As much technology they got out now they coulda been found that shit out cuzz if it was those twins Mary Kate and Ashley that got murdered they woulda found that shit out so fast man. They gone let us know when attention ain’t drawn 2 them no more. That goes to show you that a lot of niggas that’s out now ain’t shit cuzz it wasn’t room 4real to just pop up and be talking bout KRS one and Rakim when Pac and BIG was in the game because there was no room too. That’s fucked up when 2 niggas died over 10 years ago and is being talked about more than a new aritist and you a new artist. Hip hop need new heavy hitters. That’s whats trying to happen now………… you don’t see that?
(Lupe, Cool kids…… allot of shit is on the way the stage is being set right now but for the real new to come we gotta let the past go appreciate it but let it go. SO ONCE AGAIN PEOPLE!!!!! …………………………. It’s fucking 2008 people let the shit go!!!!
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standupguyabout 1 year ago
The new niggas aint better. Thats the problem. There’s no new artist that makes me want to forget about any artist doing it in the 90’s. None. Just cuz time past dont mean things progressed in a positive way. Things can change for the worst.

People who listen to Rock will still say that the Beatles The Who, AC/DC, Jimi Hendricks are the greatest of all time. None of them will say “Let the Beatles go man, Gym Class Heros is the future”.

The 90’s was a great decade for Hip Hop. Better than the 2000’s have been. Is what it is. Pac and BIG made a connection that no artist since has been able to duplicate, period. Forgetting about them is not letting them rest in peace, its forgetting about them.
Pac would ask you R U Still Down?
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sk8boardchrisabout 1 year ago
You A BITCH /VIGGA ………… so totally not cool…….
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sk8boardchrisabout 1 year ago
That was aimed at N-word please but I feel you though StandUpGuy was to stand up……….. guy, totally cool
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chaos96about 1 year ago
Damn…

Rest in Peace.

Best Rapper of All Time.
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detroitbredabout 1 year ago
lol, the n word u dont know shit where are u from dude young dude yes u are dont know shit about pac do have u heard of Mc breed i know u dont cause u a young fuck!!! find the song got to get mines feat. pac u and your wack ass hood did not know pac til 2006 u young lame nigg
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nwordpleaseabout 1 year ago
So what is im supposed to be sorry cause U a groupie. LOL

U still runnin ya mouth but cha punk ass still aint answer my question.

How many niggas did Pac rap about doin sumthin to that he actually did sumthim to?

Answer da question bitch nigga!

Until U can answer dat question u really aint gotta leg to stand on.

So if im dumb but chu cant answer a simple question then what do dat make U?

And U gettin real disrespectful wit all da name callin my dude!

I dont think u wanna go down dat road wit me cuz!

And im from North Phil my dude! Aint nuttin lame about me or my hood!

Dont start some shit chu cant finish Yung Scrap! Use ya fuckin brain!

“A thug nigga draped in jewels” “comin to a ghetto near you it da street fame”
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mssusanabout 1 year ago
MAN I LOVE BOTH PAC AND BIGGIE AND I DNT THINK WOULD HAVE DONE SOM SHIT LIKE THAT HE WAS A REAL DUDE. BUT DIDDY ON THE OTHER HAND LOVES DOING HOE SHIT HE FUCK SHYNE OVER SO
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tupac4lifeabout 1 year ago
diddy is going to get his
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