Lil Wayne Disses Jay Z
The man who once stated that he was “best rapper alive since the best rapper retired” has suddenly done a 180. Recently in a interview with Complex magazine Lil Wayne apparently furious over comments made by Jay-Z lashed out against his former mentor. “I don’t like what he’s saying about how he had to come back because hip-hop’s dead and we need him,” Wayne said. “What the fuck do you mean? If anything it’s reborn, so he’s probably having a problem with that. You left on a good note, and all of the artists were saying, ‘Yo, this is Jay’s house. He’s the best.’ Now he comes back and still thinks it’s his house. It’s not your house anymore, and I’m better than you. I’m better than him, I’m 24 years old. ... I’m 13 years deep with five albums and 10 million records sold.” But Wayne’s tirade didn’t end there he also had some choice words for Young Buck, The Clipse, and Pharrell. We’ll post more parts of the article as the story breaks.
EDIT: Excerpts from this article have been removed due to false information. The TI dissing Nas interview quote has been found to be false



















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i really dont think weezy want it wit hov...im mean lyrically hov murks em...and imma fan of both...t.i crazy as fuck 2...t.i good but man....lol...i wouldnt do it
Weezy must have really took this personal, because just a few weeks ago I read an article about Weezy looking up to Hov and even wanting to do a collabo with him. As for Nas, I dont believe hip hop is dead either. I just think music is changing much like it has always done. Lil wayn aint no lyrical pushover either!!
never said he was....but i feel he not fucking wit jay...wayne spits...but against hov??the nigga u basically look up 2 and style u bit???he dont want it...and i agree wit u hip hop is changing i just feel its 4 the worse
props to my man weezy, jay came back like jordan and ain't what he used to be. i wanna see what jay has to say about weezy bein better than him.
Hov aint what he used to be yo. Shit, Weezy is the new Hov.
fuck hov, wayne's taking ova and jay-z is just old and washed up. Wayne will win anyway beacuse he has dipset behind him. Jay-z will lost once again.
now u speaken goofy lil wayne not go take ova da hov and remember jay z kiled dipset by his self the only person from dipset that giv him promblems is lil wayne da rest aint shit on da hov.
fuck dipset those bitch at shit! Hov will kill dipset. Weezy is that nigga buut he can't fuck with Hov but i still have love for weezy but hov is the best rap alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I swear men take things so personal.
Let's be real. Hip Hop started in NY and he just wanted to but them back on. Which he did. Don't even matter if you didn't like the album or not. So maybe little Wayne didn't need him but we need someone from the North to be on top. And no I'm not from NY.
LOL yall crazy Jay-z was never that hot first of all how is he the best when he got ate up by Nas? Get out of here Hov dont Want it with Wayne. Thats like sayin right now at this moment Michael Jordan Can out play Lebron James which will not happen. IN his prime maybe but now hell no. Wayne will eat Jay-Z alive period.
Jay-z is my guy,But lil wayne wuould fuck him up now in the rap game.Jay-z is kind of rusty.
everbody has they own opinion..but check this out lemme ask yall sumin...u think kobe can fuck wit jordan in his prime???whoever say yes jmp off the fucking state bridge..what im tryna get @ is that jordan birth kobes style...same wit jay and weezy how u better than a nigga that gave you yo style???yeah hovs old but hes far 4rm washed up...and waynes hot yeah but i dont think hes fucking wit jay...yall give him alot of credit..thats cuz he from the south alotta rap artists from the south are not lyrical they talk about bullshit like 26's drippn wet paint...there are niggas in the south that do go flo...no disrespect 2 the south..but lil wayne is the only nigga that really gotta lyrical flo(t.i 2).....speaking of t.i he crazy 4 fucking wit the wrong nigga...i feel this beefing is good 4 hip hop seeing that hip hop is trash right now...the 4 hottest rappers in the game....
gay-z washed up i wish he jus leave what point he trying to prove he thinks he is jordan hov must not remember when jordan came back that 2nd time nigs showed him his days was over so hov quit it
ans to state jordan wasnt shit they changed rules for him he the only player in nba history who walk up court and put his hand under the ball and carry it shit jordan could run wit the ball in his hands and not get called (kobe a kill jordan and i hate kobe)
To everyone with the kobe and michael jordan references whould you please take time to realize that THIS IS NOT THE SPORT OF BASKETBALL the meaning of "washed up" in basketball is a banged up body that can't go as hard as it used to and yes in the NBA 37 is old, in the rap game yea 37 is kinda old from the norm but it's very very young to be CEO and mogul and all that shit and STILL be able to spit as good as ever because if your mind is sharp as Jay-Z's is, there is no "washed up" he's Rapping! not dribbling and shooting! If u create a style and flow it dosent fade as you age, it only get wiser and stronger.....DAMN, idiots!!
p.s. with the exception of T.I., OUTKAST, SCARFACE, maybe jeezy, Luda, Maybe weezy cause he be sliping and a few others....The South is killing hip hop! we need lyrics
whoa...u cant say jay aint neva been good, youre right nas did eat him with ether, but it didnt kill jays career, any other rapper would have been thru after ether. wayne my nigga and i knew eventually he was gonna have a beef wit jay, i means hes tight with the dipset. but the south is holdin the rap game down right now, besides a few wac niggas that make music for the club
Lil' Wayne speaks the truth, this topic seems to really upset him. I remember wen he was speaking about the Gillie Da Kid diss tracks and he didn't reply about it. But DAMN!!!! i can't wait for da dis track to come out
weezy did reply to the gille diss, he got a track that was on funk flex joint.."he dead and gon no more problems im the problem solver"
Man Fuck lil Wayne,that bitch is wack. and why everyone think Hov the Best? when Nas ate him the fuck up! and why these bitch ass rappers comparing themselves to NBA players? and why everyone think lil wayne is even good? and why all you mutha fuckas cant think for your selves? and why you mad at Nas for saying Hip Hop is dead? and why Lil wayne even think he good???
What Are you the remix to fuckin jadakiss WHYYYY. Ight Kinda krazy how wayne switched up on the whole "best rapper alive ta best rapper retired". You can be mad but not mad enuff at hov to diss him maybe Jay seen new york fallen and wanna bring it back up. Wayne killen "most" the things he touch.Shouldnt even be really mad. Anywas Ya'll Kno Its Always Bout Paper. either way u look at it.
Weezy is madd cuz there is sum 1 betta than him in the game......Dont Sleep on Lupe Fiasco dat nigga is retarded wit his words
Lets be serious for a minute and break this down...He been in the game 13 years, only which 3 of them he was respected as a rapper....His best album effort was the carter one which he clearly states the blueprint inspired that record, he qoutes jay, and he does songs mimicking how jay did them...Then there is the whole gillie thing, which seems to be quite true. When wayne came out he was fubu this, and fila that, now he is all labeled out like a up north nicca. Then when you listen to his tracks you know whats coming...his 2 albums is the same shit over different beats. Brick this and baby that, brick this and baby that.....We all know this nicca was not flippin bricks at 14....Anybody who thinks jay new album is weak needs to sit down and listen....this whole making up drug stories in rap has ruined it...Jay came with new refreshing style...Is album is not his best, but definately not weak....Comapring lil wayne to jay, or nas is like comparing jordan to harold minor...I like lil wayne, but he needs to stay in his realm of rap....he just another rapper that benefits more from his production then we benefit from his lyrics.
Yo weezy my nigga but fucked that.. that nigga ain't coming close to HOV.. weezy could spit, but that's all he ever gon' be, a nigga who spit.. he ain't no born leader like HOV, this guy's still running around talking bout he "stunting like his daddy" real niggas know you don't run around kissing other niggas.. he trying to say that's mobb shit, but nigga you ain't italian, you black! that shit is gay.. ya niggas need to open ya eyes and stop accepting that bullshit cos a nigga can rap.. it's FUCKING gay!! but not to get sidetracked, that nigga HOV is opening doors and breaking barriers!!y'all niggas need to understand that.. hip hop got wack till HOV an NAS came back and sparked it again.. these rap niggas just hatin cos they know HOV coming back gon' shut shit down.. and fuck up they sales!!
First off for anybody sayin the south is killin hip hop FUCK YOU. Okay everybody talkin down on snap music and shit but then comes shit like chicken noodle soup. Hip hop is far from dead. Its only dead to rappers who aint making good music or sellin. And if you want to talk down on the south Z-ro will lyrically merk anybody from the east, west, or flat out anywhere including Jay Z.
Sad, another dirty south coon talking shit about the East.First off, Wayne will never be as lyrically sound as Nas or Jay-z.He hasn't had one song better than "one mic" or "Dead President", what you thought "Tha block is hot" was a classic? Secondly,Kissing Baby in the mouth is disgusting, that alone will be used by Nas and Jay-z to destroy Lil-flames.So, what is left for lil-flames to claim,he has sold a totally of 6.4 million records worldwide(his solo albums only), Nas has sold 10 million in the USA alone and Jay-Z has sold 23 million in the USA, and i'm not courting either of there non-solo albums like Jay-Z's "The best of both worlds" or Nas's"The firm".Also, Wayne has copy some Jay-Z lines in his songs on more than one occasion, and was going to sign with def jam.Top it off with wayne having two tear drops under his eye, when we all know he has murder anyone, and the fact that he is so stupid, he once shot himself, this subject of whose better is rather lame.And to "typ51288", Z-ro can't lyrical murk anyone, he try to diss 50 cent to get some publicity for his album and the G-unit laugh at him, and if anyone who knows HipHop hears his lyrics, they would laugh at him to,nothing but ebonic's lace jibberish over typical southern beats.With the exception of Eninem, the best lyrical rapper are all from the east,Nas,Jay-z,Biggie,Big pun,Big L,Beanie Siegel,Cassidy,Ghostface,Rakim,Krs-one,AZ,Canibus,and Papoose.Non of those rappers can be touch by anyone from the west or south, and three of them are dead.So, you west coast shitheads can keep boasting "The Game", the saying the same thing in every song man(dr.dre,64 impamla,i throw the double d's in ya face) because he is the only one in the west selling besides Snoop(is this nigga really that dumb,getting arrested three times in 6 months)and the southern coons can keep at it with there quest to make a stupid dance for every song(chicken noodle song is by a 15 year old girl,grown ass men in the south are making up those stupid dances)and making ebonics the south official language, and us east coast men will continue to be lyrically better than you,better businessmen than you(check Jay-z's and Diddy's networths), and go down south once and awhile an get with the baddest southern girls(beyonces anyone) who can't wait to be with a man who takes baths everyday,does't have a mouth full of fake gold(real gold is poisonous,you can't have it in your mouth for long periods of time)and understands that god made barber shop for us to get hair cuts and shape ups,there is no need to walk around looking like a homeless person.P.S to the southern coons claiming to be running HipHOP,the top selling rap album of 2004 an 2005 were both by 50 Cents. Jay-Z sold 608,000 records his first week, more than any southern rapper or any rapper this year,thats the blow to the body,Nas album drops in two weeks, it be the blow to the face which will finally knock this coon ass mistrel rap back to the dirtroads where it belongs.
WOW...i can not believe that a fellow african american would talk about his own race like that. I am so tired of people from the north actin like they are better than the south. Just because you have assimilated into white culture and do not appreciate other black people at least doing somethin does not mean you have the right to slam the south nor the west. I am proudly a southern...and i proudly do not listen to any of those "great" rappers you named. Jay-Z had his time...he made his little industry records that got him to where he is today. because everyone knows that for you to sell 10 million records or become one the top artists in the country, that you must appeal to white people. why do black people from the north think they are so much better than blacks in the south. I am from Atlanta, the Capital of the South, where black people are making millions everyday. Ludacris is about to have a high rise building built downtown...thats money. Dont act like we some ignorant porch monkeys who all live on farms. But on the real, how dare you call those in the south coons. We talkin bout songs here folk, lets keep it like that. The south is moving forward...whereas the north jsut clinges to the old monopoly they had on the music game. Once the south got in...it was a rap. Wayne is that nigga and thats how it is. Accept it. he blowin up without the pop singles, without the industry singles. He will never make a single called "girls girls girls", Wayne is stayin street for the streets. And thats how southern rap has flourished...we not makin songs for that white boi who likes rap wit his bubble coat on. We makin songs that are for my folk across the street and down the way, just happened that America is feelin it. We will finally see the fall of that notion that the Jay-Z is the best ever and the rise of the era lead by Weezy Fucking Baby!!
"WOW...i can not believe that a fellow african american would talk about his own race like that".This statement is funny in so many ways.Obviously you don't know me, so you can't really understand why I would call another Black person A derogatory name.Well lets start with my background, my mother is from New York, Father is from Georgia, I was born in Alabama, move to New York when I was A little kid.Before I move I witness ignorances at a level most East Coaster wouldn't believe was possible.I spent summers in Alabama and Atlanta until I was 17 and everytime I when down there it seem like the people were getting dumber and dumber.The thing that pissed me off the most was there refusal to speak the english language, instead of ebonics,this being one reason why so many black people can't get jobs.But down south it's like an epidemic of stupidity where every words has been change into it's ebonic counter-part, which makes conversing hard.The amazing lack of knowledge on black history and the continue used of mistrel lyrics in all of southern rappers songs has given me more then enough ammo to used coon as a justifled word to describe the southern disease.Don't get me wrong, there are morons everywhere,but I have never heard a East Coast rapper tell his fans that book are bad like D4L's Padae did when he tried to insult Nas.I have never heard an East Coast rapper make a remake of an old mistrel tune like "Jibb's Change Hang Low".Now you might think, how can I call the south a "southern disease" when I was born their and my father is from their, well it's simple.There are more black men in the south who can shuck and jive than there are who can read at a 8th grade level.They have zero respect for men like my father,whose belief in educating themselves,knowing true black culture, and representing themselve in a way in which would make there fathers proud,this is toss to the side for buffooning and cooning.Not to say every man in New York is representing true black culture, but they are doing a better job at it than the south and the west.There are many men from the south who have blaze the trail for black people to follow, but it's sad that must southern don't know who they are or care who they are like eastern people.We will never see the fall of the Era which brought us Jay-Z,Biggie,Nas,Big L,Big Pun,and Mos Def, because even when they were at there worst, they were better than the best from any other coast.New young blood is coming soon,Cassidy from philly,PA and Papoose from BK,NYC are coming to finish off what Jay-Z started with a body blow,Nas ended with a face punch, all they have to do is bury the coons bodies.
How u can u diss a da man u been rydin ("DICK")fo along tyme, he basically taught dis nigga how 2 rap lyke him so I don't get it, well I guess DIPSET is hypin dis nigga head up lol
WOW!!! First off Wayne is my favorite rapper of the new era... he cant fuck with hov when it comes to makin songs but dude git a crazy flo and pumps out way more material than hov in his prime but thats only bcuz the mixtape circuit bak then didnt go as hard as it does now.... Im from the south... im not slow... i been reading on an 8th grade level since 5th grade... its nigguh like dat lame evil_dre that get nigguhs from new york spun the fuck up when they come down here. How the fuck u gon say ur opinions of the south based on D4L, Jibbs(who is 15 like that chx noodle bitch),i dont even fuck with them and im from the south, and how the fuck u gon mention the best rappers. Then he think he knows the south cuz he went to Alabama... if u knew anything alabama education level is one of the lowest in the nation blk and white. Talkin boutwe dont kno our history... BITCH!! we live this shit... itz ppl still callin us niggers to this day... if u knew about the south (ur history)u would kno that most blkz in the north migrated from the south fuck boy or did u think blkz went strate from africa to new york??...You stupid and misinformed... talkin bout shit u kno nuthin about... And dat coons shit is funny... we'll take dat... but kno dat we coons in the jungle and u up north nigguhs some tamed house coons.. conforming to what the white man wants u to be but if u come out here with us and u want survive... After blkz were freed in the south shit was about survival not no fuckin bookz u herb, we had to fite to feed families and live nigguh... we didnt have time for books nigguh and its still the same in many southern cities cuz nigguhs still gotta eat and survive.. so we do wateva we have to and fuck if we dont talk rite, we hustle rite and get that paper, y u think yall fly south for the birds?... i bet when u go to the club in new york everybody leanin and rockin.. yall some fuckin biters... yall nigguhs do wats hot... we do wats real, fuck if its hot.. so fuck yall pussies and eat a sick, fat dick u lame.. u didnt even mention pac when u mentioned the best and he from NY, so u have no credibility.
People just hate the fact that the south is taking over the rape game. Don't get me wrong Jay'z is tight as hell but i don't think that J can see Wayne and get at him on that rape shit. IT would be a good one to see Wayne would have to come with that heat. but for real that nigga from up north name J Mill's now that nigga could get at jay'z ass in a heart beat.
yungBLIZ06 is the perfect example of what I'm taking about.Your stupidity is commonplace in the new south.First off, there were slave in the northeast as well as the south,so do A little research before you attempt to correct me moron.Secondly,the major of slave believe that the only way to advance was to educate themselves, hint your ability to speak your lesser form of english.D4L and jibb are not the only ones, lil jon is from a rich family and went to prep school,but he pretends to be A coon so he can sell records to you moron.He's making fun of you fucks and you are to stupid to realize It.And you are right about the new southern blacks being "coons in the jungle", but here in the east, we are not tamed house coons, we own the house.We own buildings,we own record labels,we own stores,and wear our blackness on our sleeve.In the south, the majority of you idiots are still slaves,putting fools gold in your mouths,growing dreds and your not rastas,refusing to take baths everyday and groom,you are exactly how the white man want blacks to be.Remember this,"there is nothing that scare white america more than a nigga with a brain".Also,work on your spelling,you say "i been reading on an 8th grade level since 5th grade",your writing shows otherwise.And to Eric Owens, I think you mean RAP GAME, because Rape is a disgusting crime,I think you need to learn the difference between RAP and RAPE before you comment on this topic.
Man, i seen a lot of stupid talk in these comments! I'm from the south so of course i'm gon address that, we aint got no lyrical rappers???? lil wayne is lyrical, T.I., Ludacris. now i wont say we're just known for having lyrical rappers, we dont have many but give us some credit! but about lil wayne versus jay z, thats just stupid! jay z gave lil wayne his style, and even lil wayne said he dont even listen to rappers no more he said he just listens to how they sound on the track unless its jay z. jay z aint washed up either, have yall heard kingdom come??? or a better question, has lil wayne heard kingdom come? i think dipset pumpim him up too. "how u gon let that man hype u to rap up against your idol, knowin good and got-damn well this is wat i do" -jay z (Dig A Hole from kingdom come).
All I can say if Lil Weezy wants to be considered Hip-Hops best (which will never happen)he needs stop being Birdmans Lil Son. Next, he better not ever and I mean ever let another motherfucka write for him. Now to think you can mess with Jay Z is just a stupid ass move. Fuck kissing Baby, he needs to suck on a .50 Caliber Bullet. You may win a battle(which he won't) but you will never win that WAR. Just ask Nas if you don't belive it.
All right Evil Dre I gettin tired of your bullshit. You just another one of them niggaz from the east thinkin yall shit dont stink. Since you so into talkin about record sells, let's look at the only rappers to go diamond(10 million records)off of one cd Eminem and Outkast. Neither one of them is from the east. So get your fuckin facts staight. Everybody realizes where rap started and because all the shine fades away from where it did start hip hop is dead. Yall talkin about wayne using a few of jay z's lines, please go download the song "swagger jacker." Jay z has stole so many rappers lines the shit aint even funny. Evil Dre you need to listen to what you are sayin. You are callin your own race coons. You doin that makes you the biggest NIGGER talkin about this topic. And no I don't mean nigger as a racial slur i mean nigger in the sense that you are ignorant. I love all hip hop, good hip hop. I like rappers from the east west and south. But let's be real, outkast is better than the majority of rappers anywhere same goes to Luda. No matter what you say G unit can't fuck with the Game. And as for Z-ro, he wasn't dissin 50 to get fame he felt 50 was a snitch so he rapped about it. You say nas is a legend huh so how stupid is 50 for dissin him, you say jay z is a legend huh how stupid is jim jones for dissin him. It sounds to me there some idiots up there in the NY. Evil Dre i predict what you are goin to say back to me, you'll say "typ51288 you are stupid and you are a coon because you are from the south. I lived in been to two cities in the south and now i know everything about it. Everybody from the south is a slave." that's all got to say for now.
Oh and Evil Dre when you said "Secondly,the major of slave believe..." i believe you meant the majority. Learn how to type you dumb fuck.
And one more thing Papoose did a remake of the song Chain hang low. Evil Dre you over here contradictin yourself do some research before you speak again because you are makin yourself look stupid.
Evil Dre I'm havin fun correctin your dumb ass. You talkin about grills P. Diddy, from the east coast, is rockin a grill. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. Jay z knew the deal too when he wanted to make a hit with big pimpin, who did he go to UGK.
I'm loving this debate first of all... Shot outs to Evil_Dre. Before you even ask, No I don't know him and No I'm not D*ck riding or anything like that. I just respect real point blank.
I got mad love for THE MUSIC INDUSTRY... I wanted to say Hip-Hop, but c'mon we all know that's not what it is...Point Blank.
FIrst of all I'm from Camden, NJ. U may as well say Norh Philly as well. U know the place where Gillie Da' Kid is from. Some one you Lil' Weezy lovers may not know him too well. But he's responsible for "Happy Lip's" sudden alleged "TAKE OVER" of the rap game... or at least down south anyways....
Ever heard of the term "GHOSTWRITER"? Maybe so, maybe not... if u haven't it means that u PAY someone betta than u to write ya shit. One person that's capitalized off of this quite well is Lil' WIMPY!
I know it's breaking some of your hearts write now to hear that your favorite "Lyricists" isn't really a lyricists at all. But hey... I'm sick of hearing about how good he is.
I don't like weak people... let alone weak MEN. He's shown us on more occasions...
1) Kissin' another grown ass man on the mouth!
and I dont wanna debate about that nasty shit! Period...
2) Cuttin' someone from the label because they questioned 2 grown ass men kissing.
Once again not debating that Nasty Shit! Period...
3) Having ya smutt (horish woman) defend you on a rap song because u couldnt...
He ain't stupid... NEVER bite the hand that fed you!
4)Biting that hand that fed him...
Dissin' Jay and everybody else that birthed that bum... No manners at all...
5) I don't even listen to Gillie like that, but he smashed the shit outta Lil' Wayne!
To Poetic, I agree with you as well, There has been some wild chit chattin' going on, and The South does have quality rappers...Some that I like a lot. For starters, 8ball&Mjg, Bun B and Pimp C, SCARFACE (gets a lotta respect) and of course TI and Luda...
ON another note... I dont even look at record sales...U can't.
It's all bullshit now. Maybe like 6 or 7 years ago u could've made that argument. Back when then source used to be brought so I could see the mic ratings...
Now a days Muthafuckas here download shit all day! Or puchase bootlegs... YES that still happens up here heavily... so of course our rappers don't do the numbers we KNOW they should've done. It's to the point now where we dont even care anymore. As long as our music get's love, that's all that matters.
C'mon how yall gonna bring up 50 cent and Eminem. Yall knew Eminem shit was going to sell big. Think about the publicity and the marketing... HE'S A WHITE RAPPER that could actually rap. I'd would've been more surprised if he didn't do big numbers.
I'm not even gonna talk about 50cent... that's a whole 'NOTHER subject lol!
To make a long story short, Lil' Wayne will never be and shouldn't be considered as "one of the Greats" by anyone who's really into Real Rap. You can't have someone write for you forever and then decide that you're the greatest. It doesn't work that way. U may have the "greatest writers", or the "greatest producers" working for you. But YOU the "GREATEST"...sorry, it doesn't work that way.
I respect Hip Hop that has longevity, hip hop that for the most part is timeless...
Rap that I could put on at anytime... Classics like Nas's "illmatic", or Jay's "reasonable doubts", Scarface's "The Fix", The Fugees "the Score"...
We all love southern music but let's be real, the majority of it is made for "THE MOMENT". Meaning it's hott for the time being, but years from now... When we're all tired as hell from Leaning and Rocking, and arthritis sets in early from all of that snapping...(lol) then what?
I gotta cut this thing short...working!
Keep the debates focused on rap yall... as a culture...we ALL suffered (in our own ways) ENOUGH!
suck my dick with that coons shit you act like you a kkk member or something.who gives a fuck bout some damn books and shit when a nigga got a brain to make money. evil dude act like he is on top of the top. talking bout the south when yall bite our ass, diddy gold grill,fat joe gold grill,nas grill,even big tigger,the music even almost sounds like us GET OFF OUR DICK AND GET YOUR HUSTLE UP, COMPLAINING BOUT SHIT AINT GONE HELP SHIT.IF HIP HOP IS SO DEAD REINCARNATE IT THEN.
WAYNE AIN'T FUCKIN' WIT JAY...THAT'S THAT!
Yo my dude that made the comment bout Kobe fuckin wit MJ in his prime hit the nail on the head wit this topic! Shit changes and you if you wanna keep gettin better you gotta change wit it that's where Jay's problem is he don't want see all this change & the same wit Nas! I'm a huge fan of Nas & Jay but right now Jay mos def ain't fuckin wit Wayne he'll rip em lyrically & as for nas I'll just have to wait & see.
LOL!! this shit is mad funny.. first off shout out to my dude Evil_Dre.. that nigga got y'all dudes heated!! but you can't knock that nigga cos that's his opinion on this whole east/south shit.. check it, i'm a east coast nigga, and i rep the east coast till i die, but i can't agree with everything dude said about the south cos i've been living in the south for 5 years now and they ain't as slow as niggas think.. in respect to rap, the only niggas out of the south that's repping is T.I, Jeezy, Ludacris, Wayne.. and i don't even like southern rap, but them niggas is repping for the south right now, every body else is basura !!(garbage)..as for that lil ingreat mutha fucka going at Jayz, that just goes to show how type of nigga he is.. them dipset niggas put a battery in his back, now he popping of at the mouth yo, these rap niggas ain't real.. that's why my nigga Nas say that shit is dead. niggas don't seem to want to see growth in hip hop.. that shit is needed yo, the nigga Jay making power moves in Africa and shit wut that lil ingreat nigga doing? this nigga an ambassador in the U.N. and that nigga running round kissing grown men? is that the type nigga ya'll want representing hip-hop? it's time we as fans cut that shit out men.. it shouldn't be all about if you can rap no more, but wut you doing for the game yo, that's why my nigga Papoose bout to run up in this rap shit and carry the torch form Jay.. and P.S. besides Nas..aint nobody fucking wit Jay!!
First, to typ51288, if I left off the ity in "majority", it was a typo.I have written many paragraphs, so a few mistake are bound to happen.You on the other hand, have made massive amounts of grammatical errors in your posts.And to HYSTYLE, you're exactly the type of person I'm talking, a strong belief in being ignorant.I'm not anything like the kkk, they want to see blacks behave like coons, I want the shit to stop.And for the east copying the south, that one is funny.You dudes never wore fitted hats and jersey,now I see them in every video.We had bentleys,roll royces, and hummers in the early 90s, you dudes couldn't afford them.We were wearing changes in the 70s and 80s(grandmasterflash,schoolly d,big daddy kane), you all wore wearing straw hats.We been calling people shorty since the 80s, you ebonicized(this is not a real word) the word to shawty and can't stop saying it.And in the early 90s you dudes were riding the west coast cocks, running around dress up like snoop and calling people cousin, I was down there, you can't deny it.On the subject of eminem, I said nothing about eminem record sells, so dig you head out of you ass.I did say, eminem was the only rapper not from the east coast I know can spit bars.And T.I and ludacris are not Lyrical, go to www.ohhla.com and check there rhymes.Lil Wayne only began to rhyme better after Gillie the kid sign with cash money(check his rhymes before then), I don't think it was a coincidence that his rhymes got better after gillie got there.Lastly, if someone commits a rape, i'll call him a rapist, if someone commits a murder, i'll call him a murderer, if someone behave like a coon,i'll call him a coon.It doesn't matter if we are of the same race, mistrel show in the early 1900s showed us as a race of dumb,shuckin n jiven coons, and the new south is bring back that same message.I will never put on red lipstick and paint my face black, screaming out "loudy loudy o lordy", but that is what the south is doing figuratively.
Just so you know TYP51288, I made some typos and spelling errors in my last post just for you,so you can get on me for that, rather than discredit any of my points.
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Ok, heres an inside for entertainment 101, class is in session, alot of you speaing and throwing dirt on Hova's name, listen there is ONLY 1 REASON jay came back to release an album, and he keeps reminding you people, its BUSINESS, NEVER PERSONAL...the reason he came back is due to the fact that Def Jam is WEAK right now, they arent selling ANY records, with the exception of Ludacris. Nas new album, just heard it, im sorry, im a die hard nas fan, but the album is straight trash! Zero on the production AGAIN. Nas, your one of the illest lyricist, other than, Talib Kwali, Mos Def, Common, just to name a few, go get the production to back your lyrical abilities, hell look what Alchemist did for "made you look!" So that will flop, Santana will flop after that due to the album will sound just like the last, and then, Def Jam can only hope Fabolous can hold it down, but keep in mind, hes been gone too long! Jay got the new position at Def Jam, soley on the reason they felt that the troops will follow to Def Jam and boost album sales. Everyone reading this, please go get the new Billboard mag with Jay on the cover, read that article and he even admits it, T.I. who honestly can put togather a great record, didnt even do double platinum. Now Wayne, I dont know if this is a business move to boost an upcoming album, or did you really take it personal. Honestly, son thats not you. Your a very good MC, your one of the FEW from the south that can really rap, understand kid, these labels jumped on the south bandwagon, and look what we did, put out a bunch of bullshit, like walk it out, and chain hang low...Young Joc album is just another TI album, and Dro is just straight bullshit, he will be another Bad Boy flop. Weezy, your in the category in top of the south other than outkast, the dungeoun family, juvenile, Bun B, Slim Thug, ya know to name a few. But I understand that alot of cats now a days are turning personal, listen to the intro of purple ribbon, even Killa Mike stated that Pharrell bit the way sleepy brown sounded back in 93! Its always business everyone, jay said it best "Yall buy this shit, caught up in the hype!" We have to play chess, not checkers, and just wait to find out whats the real reason if any! But, Wayne if this is really about Jay's comment about the game, then you should be doing what the game did with 300 bars and running because its alot of cats calling out the game other than the King...Everyone B Eazy, im representing born and raised in the county of dade, and resided on flatbush ave in Crooklyn, represent best of both worlds everyone. Peace and love, and im out!
We wer'e rocking gold fronts in 93' out in BROOKLYN dumb ass bama, get ya facts straight. Yall south niggas only got recognition when u started dressing like us, pay homage to the the hip hop birthplace. White people is laughing at ur sambo asses.
Yall niggas are crazy hahahaha. The only people that say cuz or cousin in the south are crips so get your facts straight. Just to get this clear so yall don't think I'm rapper/region hater, I do like east coast hip hop. Rap did start in the East but let's not forget who th all time greatest rapper was. TUPAC. Yeah he was born in the NY but he was a west coast representer. Now evil dre you are retarded(not in the good way) if you think TI, Luda, Scarface, Outkast, and many oter southern rappers are not good. I might not be able to change your mind but wait until the Grammy's and see who wins. Evil Dre, I'm not sure what's makin you act like you got two dicks up your ass but maybe yo should try gettin in to the KKK. I think you would be happier with your own kind. But back to the subject, Weezy is confused. People are makin him think he is the best when he really isn't. Daddylonglocks what the fuck are you talking about "We wer'e rocking gold fronts in 93' out in BROOKLYN dumb ass bama" the south have been rockin grills since the 80s. But you know what I'm not goin to hate on you because you are entitled to your own opinion. But I will correct you about the copying the clothes and fitted caps. The south has been wearin the same shit just as long as any other coast, but southern artist weren't as recognized so nobody ever knew. And when you said you didn't say anything about record sells "the top selling rap album of 2004 an 2005 were both by 50 Cents" your exact words.
And as a fellow Arrican American you should be happy for other African Americans makin money and doin their thing, not tryin to put them down by callin them coons. But that's just my opinion.
Daddylonglocks....question, did you even read what I wrote? How in the hell my statement that specifically stated that Killa Mike said that Pharell bit his style from sleepy brown they way he sounded back in 93, and you turned my statement (somehow) into being in Brooklyn in 93 wearing golds? Hmm, thats a lil crass playa. Listen man, when you say bama, understand you maybe speaking in terms of maybe country or hick! There is absolutely NOTHING bama about Miami, come on, im not going to even go into that! I lived in Brooklyn in 93, im not claiming either one, i lived in the best of both North and South. I will say this, no location bites another, cats from New York moved to the south due to weather conditions, crime, whatever, and niggas moved from the south to the north to get away from hurricanes, family, crime, whatever. And they styles just linked. If anything I remember when the west coast used to only rock Chuck Taylors, and Nike Cortez, now, you can find the most exclusive uptowns (air force) in California. Im a sneaker freak, and I have been to like every shoe store that has the most exclusive sneax are off Jamaica Ave in new york, USA Flee Market in Miami (most are fake though), Walters in Atlanta, and this one particular store out in LA, it just moves around homie. Its a good look. I dont get online talking shit about where anyone is from, im not a internet thug, nor do I talk smack over the internet, thats played out. Im just saying that come correct with the facts playa, like typ51288 said, its very true, the south was wearing grillz in the 80's, hell, Big Gip was notorious for doing it! Listen playa, go read my message again, like I said before, labels got on the south bandwagon, and look what the south did, put out a bunch of bullshit, short of Jeezy first album, which was a very good strategicly put togather record, Rick Ross was pretty good, but about 5 or 6 records could have been done without, other than that...its it! So before you go throwing dirt, and open your mouth, get your grown man on and come at me like an adult! Eazy Starr!
typ51288....Tupac, the greatest of all time? Hmm, I dont know about that one playa...you have alot of great artist out there...ok, do this, specify greatest? Lyricist, MC, Rapper, I mean greatest career? Tupac was a great lyricist, and a great poet. He is defidently up there. But MC, I cant put him in that one, MC, Mine is Rakim, Big Boi from outkast, Eminem, Big L, Twista, I mean its some mean cats out there. Lyricist, Nas, Tupac, Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Common, Lupe Fiasco (very good put togather album, im very impressed). Career, he had a good one, movies, guest apearances on sit coms, etc. But he was a lil controdicting being from New York, and boasting about LA. Now, I personally have been to LA, its wild out there, especially East LA...city of Compton, shit I dont even go through there, thats like going through Carol City or Liberty City in Miami, or the Bronx. But I think that Tupac shouldnt have gotten into that Death Row situation, that shit was slimy from the get go, if anything, what all do the artist do when they want to get their music right? Go see the Dr. Son, he should have been took his ass with Dre. But rest in peace my nug! If I had to say the greatest of all time, I have to say that nigga Jay. Son, he's a business! 40/40 club, NJ Nets, negotiating a soccar team, Armandale, part owner Anheiser Busch, etc. Son, look what he just did in Africa. Built underground pipelines to get them fresh water! Son, I will say he is a role model to me. Thats just outside the career. Music, multiple classic albums, hardware awards on the wall, etc. So I would say, over all career the greatest, I gotta say S Dot! Ay, I have a question, did anyone see youtube interview with Jay Z and Funk Master Flex? I agree, we should have a Hip Hop Board. Have a list of artist, old and new, and see if certain artist get to take a shot at them, and see if it gets approved. So enough with the hoe internet tough guy shit talk...Do you guys think Wayne should have an opportunity to go at Hov?
B Eazy i respect your opinion cuz you comin with good facts unlike evil dre. Although Pac did have a great career, he didn't have the best. Wen I say Pac greatest of all time I meant lyricist and content. The greatest MCs to me are Andre 3000 Big L Rakim Em and Nas. Jay Z is one of the best right now and I know im bout to catch heat from this but I wouldn't consider him a legend. I respect eveything he does and you were right when you said he is a business but I just don't see it and I have heard all his cds from Reasonable Doubt to the Black Album. This is my list of legends in no order.
1. Pac
2. B.I.G.
3. Nas
4. Rakim
5. Big L
6. Z-ro
7. Andre 3000
8. Eminem
THANK U TYP51288!!!! PAC IS THA BEST,NO BODY IS FUCKIN WIT PAC
BANG BANG...I rest my case. Pac it is! Yo, that all eyes on my album is still a classic. My favorite record from that one is No More Pain. Cant believe Devante from Jodeci produced that. Hot dayum, its a new day. Ok, now lets get back to the board. Do you guys think that Wayne should be able to go after Hov? I say yes due to the fact that Wayne has been around for a while, he has matured in the game, he's a pretty good MC. I just got through watching "Show me what you got remix" on Youtube, Wayne is kind of nice man...but Wayne has been immulating his career after Hov, so I think its ok for him to go after him! What yall playaz think? Its a good look, or is it straight suicide?
typ51288, it's funny how you twist my words around, you are like my little sister.Here is my direct quote, cutted and pasted from my previous post "On the subject of eminem, I said nothing about eminem record sells, so dig you head out of you ass".If you still don't get it,this was your reply "And when you said you didn't say anything about record sells "the top selling rap album of 2004 an 2005 were both by 50 Cents" your exact words".I know you are confused so let me explain it to you,you are saying i brought up 50 Cent's records sells, which I did.I'm saying I did not bring up eminem's records sell,which as far as I can remember,I didn't.Now that that's out of the way, your statement about me being happy for someone for making money is asinine, if a guy runs out in the street and shoots two women in the face and take there purses, I should be happy for him?Isn't that consider making money to people in the hood?I hope you aren't serious, because if you are, you need help."The south has been wearin the same shit just as long as any other coast, but southern artist weren't as recognized so nobody ever knew",really?The south was wearing jordans in 95, when most of them couldn't afford them?The south was wearing muti-color fitted hats in the mid 90s, when the company that makes them is base in PA, and only started making muti-color fitted hats after New York director Spike Lee ask them to make him a red Yankees hat?The south was wearing pelle pelle leather jackets,azzure jeans,rocawear shirts,long white t's,and nikes, when lyric from southern rappers songs were talking about bungle boy pants,reeboks, and polo?And if only crips say "cuz" in the south, what was the taxi driver who drove me from the airport doing with all that red on in 96.I remember that shit like it was yesterday, the most annoyed I have ever been with another human being, cuz this and cuz that.And he wasn't the only one.My facts are as clear as day, it is you who choose not to address them.And the "two dicks in the ass"comment was very clever of you, I bet you pass your GED test.
u niggas is funny first i wasnt even going to respond to some this bullshit i seeing u got this wiz101 niggas talking this real shit nigga n yea im weezy fan lil nggia u crazy talking that shit u talking first how do u kno gillie wrote wayne shit cause he said it thats not enouth for me to belive that he wrote the carter 1 yea thats the only cd gillie him self said he wrote i dont kno were u dumb lil niggas get yall information from how u going say some thing with out facts n if your man gillie is so hot how com hes not sign to any one and if he writes for other people so much why dont write that good for his self that dont sound write to me y would i write some thing for u better than i write some thing for my self thats crazy boy n wayne can say hes the best u mutherfucks act like if you doing something u aint surposed to think your the best at it who the fuck yall the say whos the best just kno yall a never be better than him n if u such a hiphop fan n kno so much u kno every thing i kno and u would also kno that wayne write for other people like diddy trina and baby just to name some so when gillie show me so papers showing me he really wrote for wayne instead of just words coming out of his mouth i dont believe it fuck u n gillie nigga both of yall pussys
Evil dre hahaha quit lyin. You know you made that taxi story up. My uncle is from NY and he uses the word cuz so how do you explain that. And just because you heard a few rappers talk about a certain clothin line doesn't speak for the whole south. And even if east coast did wear it first who the fuck cares. If somebody likes a style they are goin to wear it. Just like east learned about grills from the south. So evil dre keep on talkin because I'm havin fun correcting you. You need to be taught.