
He started it off by giving props to Nas. "Nas is the only MC of my generation — maybe Rakim, but he was the generation before me — Nas was the most respected MC in every genre of rap. N---a, he could do a song with Puffy or Wu-Tang."
Next up, he defended Soulja Boy and how he feels he should be more respected as a teen who not only makes his own beats but brings a "fun" element to hip-hop.
Kanye asked,"How is Soulja Boy killing hip-hop? He had one of the biggest songs of the summer. If anything, he's helping keep it alive. You don't have to be Lil Wayne in order for people to say your sh-- is fresh.
"Open y'all's f---in' minds," West continued. "Be accepting of different people. Let people be who they are. You know how many people came at me, calling me 'gay' cause I wear my jeans the fresh way?" he said to the audience. "Or 'cause I said, 'Hey, dude, how y'all gonna say 'fag' right in front of a gay dude's face and act like that's OK?' That sh-- is disrespectful."
"It took me time to break out of the mental prisons I was in," West added. "The stereotypes of the fear of the backlash that I would get for believing in what I believe in, for accepting people for who they are."
He finished up by thanking the crowd for listening to his thoughts. Thank y'all for listening to me, I had a few things to get off my chest. I want y'all to handle the rest. New York City, good night."
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COMMENTS
^^^GET EM'..... BUT KAYNE HAS NEVER BEEN THE ONE TO BITE HIS TONGUE FOR ANYBODY AND HE ALWAYS EXPESSES WHAT HE FEELS... AND AS FAR AS SOULJA BOY GOES I COULDNT AGREE MORE WITH KANYE... HOW CAN WE TELL THIS NIGGA SOULJA BOY STOP RAPPIN CUZ YOU KILLIN HIP-HOP WHEN THAT WAS HIS WAY OUT THE HOOD..NIGGAS THAT SAY THAT ARE BASICALLY TELLING DUDE GO BACK TO THA HOOD...
BUT IF I HAD TO CHOOSE A SIDE IN THE BEEF iCE-T vs. SOULJA BOY.... I WOULD SAY SOULJA BOY.... CUZ WE ALL NO THAT THAT WAS JUST A PUBLICITY STUNT FROM ICE-T CUZ HIS MIXTAPE DROPPED A WEEK LATER(OR SOMTHIN LIKE DAT)
BUT THATS JUST MY OPINION
"The ever-vocal Kanye West, decided to air out opinions from Nas to Soulja Boy."
Exactly what he did is what we're doing, stating our opinion on how Baby Soulja got Disney sing alongs for lyrcis and he is def. not saving hip-hop! He may have this generation of INFANTS as his fan base but to those who were born in the 70s & 80s and listened to hip-hop throughout that time into the 90s understand that Baby Soulja may be a different aspect of music but NOT HIP-HOP ONLY BECAUSE BILLBOARD OR ANY OTHER INDUSTRY, LABEL HIS MUSIC AS THAT. Our minds are open, as an artist he's not accepted to most. As a person we really can't criticize the boy.
Good points 'Ye. I don't like soulja boy's music but I respect his grind....... lol
i thought kanye was smart but hes a dumb fuck..hes right about nas but soulja boy dont deserve respect or nothing he has..any dumb fuck could start a dance and say dumb superman shit my boys do it almost everyday ill post a video you gonna like that shit more then soulja bitch for sure
HOW IS SOULJABOY KEEPING HIPHOP ALIVE AND HE CAN'T EVEN MAKE A SONG WITHOUT PUTTING A DANCE TO GO WITH IT??????
I LIKE KAYNE BUT HE COULD SAY STUPID SHIT SOMETIME.
Another thing,
I'm SICK AND TIRED of people saying we "have to respect someone because they're making money" or we "have to respect their hustle." People were saying that about Cash $ when they got that $30 million. What people DIDN'T KNOW was that the deal was for over $100 million and Cash $ got RAPED... But of course, to the hood and to Cash $, $30 million was THE SHIT!!!
Listen, just 'cause you THINK (again, we don't know WHAT'S going on behind the scenes and how much "in-the-dark" people are getting paid off the top, i.e. lawyers, managers, producers, contracted fees, etc.) some1's getting cake, you DO NOT have to "respect their hustle".
FUCK SOULJA BOY'S HUSTLE.
Now, don't get me wrong; I am NOT hating. I LOVE to see my own people succeed. I mean, I DID see the entire Philly Supermannin' it at a stepshow in September, and I was AMAZED to see the ENTIRE Liacouras Center (Temple University's home gym on Broad St. in Philly) doin' that shit, and I hadn't even HEARD of the young boy. Shorty I was with was like, "You don't know this song??? You never seen the video???" I'm like, "What the????"
Anyway, I look at Soulja Boy the same way I look at Cash $ (except Juvie), No Limit, Chingy, J-Kwon, D4L, DFB, and other dudes that I hated that were, quote gettin' money... CORNY AS HELL.
So, I guess we gotta respect the Europeans hustle for how they raped Africa, too, right? Or, we gotta respect corporate america's hustle for how they're raping Hip-Hop? Or, we gotta respect the white man's hustle for how he STILL dominates America, behind the scenes? Bill O'Reilly IS gettin' money... am I to "respect his hustle", too?
Y'all need to STOP sayin' that cliche' shit... we gotta "respect some1's hustle" 'cause they gettin' $$... FUCK OUTTA HERE.
Before I even read anyone else's comments I need to first say that I'm seriously sick of Kanye's fuckin' mouth.
Everyone gives him pass after pass after fuckin' pass saying he's cool because he speaks his mind or that he's real etc etc.
Fuck that. There's a time and place for everything and this dude never knows when to say what. He's feminine as hell to me. he acts like a fuckin' female on her period.
I lost all respect for him a while back and re-confirmed it again when he stated that Nas and fuckin' Soulja Boy were on the same level. Fuck outta here!
This dude's always sayin' some gay shit. And fuck his style...it's GAY ALSO!
A fuckin' grown ass man wearin' FITTED JEANS!
Fuck outta here.... no wya u could justify that shit to me...PERIOD!
His music is still hott, I can't take that away from him... but everything else about him is FAGGISH!
Now i'll fuckin' read everyone elses comments and respond accordingly!
~Be Eazy!
Yo Wiz I co-sign that......... Some people don't understand sarcasism........ Why does kanye feel the need to defend soulja boy all of a sudden though???
HOW COULD SOMEONE LIKE SOULJA BOY BE KEEPING HIP HOP ALIVE IF THAT LIL NIGGA SAID HE WOULD LOSE RESPECT FOR HAVING BETTA LYRICS AND COCONUT SAUSAGE...DANCE MUSIC IS NOT HIP HOP...ITS DANCE MUSIC...STATING TO THE HISTORY OF HIP HOP...PPL DANCED TO THE SONGS THAT WERE BEING MADE BUT NOW IN HIP HOP RAPPERS ARE MAKIN DANCES AND THEN MAKING THE SONG FOR THEM...ITS COMPLETELY DIFF...SOULJA BOY IS NOT A HIP HOP ARTIST...HES A DANCE ARTIST THAT HAPPENS TO B BLACK SO HE IS ON B.E.T....IF HE WASNT BLACK HE WOULD ONLY B ON MTV
BROOKLYN STAND UP...BEDSTY, NOSTRAND IS DA AVE COME HOLLA
Kanye is a smart dude. But he is a walking contradiction. He brings a song like Jesus Walks in to the main stream but then he says be accepting to the homo-sexual lifestyle? WTF? What type of shit is that Ye? You think Jesus would want niggas to be gay homie? Read the Bible. lol You're a little confused about that situation. Homo-sexuality is prohibited in damn near every religion.
congrats to charismatic for probably the most intelligent post ive ever seen on DS. just cause someones making money does not mean they deserve respect.
and as far as soulja boi goes? he's whack. period. oh he makes his own beats? well i could hit 6 keys on a keyboard with a xylophone effect on and make the beat to that whack ass superman song. he's corny, there isnt even a flow to that song he's just basically talking over the beat. so sorry kanye, george bush may not care about black people but im sure i speak for most when i say none of us (black or white) care about soulja boi's hustle.
i think some of yall missed the point. On soulja boy he sayin stop attackin the kid for doin him. Soulja boy is fuckin garbage but he sayin hes opening the eyes of people who normally dont listen to the genre or hate on the music and hes doin something constructive and actually positive. Also yall hate on this nigga but he probably realer than alot of artist out there. HE dont be rappin about sellin crack and shootin guns and shit, he rap about the shit he do which might be gay as hell but its what he does. The shit about the gay shit he just sayin cats gotta respect one another. You dont want some motherfucka come up and call you a nigger or spic or whatever. So dont call a nigga a fag and shit. Im a firm believer against homosexuality but thats that nigga choice. As long as he aint fuckin with me i wont fuck with them. RESPECT. oh but the fitted tight jeans is weak tho fuck that shit.
"Or 'cause I said, 'Hey, dude, how y'all gonna say 'fag' right in front of a gay dude's face and act like that's OK?' That sh-- is disrespectful."
This was the only thing I agreed with in the story. But I don't spit no hate speech at all, including shit about homosexuals, whites, blacks, asians, hispanics, any race, any type of person.
Just because you don't agree with them or their lifestyle, don't mean you can degrade them and shit. And I don't give a fuck if I get trashed for this, back in the day BLACK people couldn't get married, now most the black community don't want gays to get married. Sometimes I just wished some black people will pick up a fucking BOOK.
Kanye was right and wrong, Soulja Boy is not really killing hip hop, he (Soulja Boy) just dont know how to make good hip hop music. Sure, if you're in the club or something and a Soulja Boy song comes on you're gonna dance to it cuz your partying and having fun. but you really cant respect Soulja Boy as a artist, hes more of a entertainer.
Hes right about Nas. NAS IS FUCKING DOPE!!!!!
I don't know if many of you remember the bull Q.Griff, who used to comment heavy for a lil' bit, but he said to me, even though HH is on life support, THERE IS good music out there. He's right... There have been MANY good albums that have dropped in the last 3 year period:
* Nas - UNTITLED; NASSSSSSSSSTY - 1 of THE best rap albums I've ever heard in my life; 2008 Rap Album of the Year.
* Rising Down - The Roots: Hot album; real hip-hop heads seem to KNOW to put Chrisette on their singles, i.e. (Nas, Jay, Roots, Ghostface)!
* Brooklyn's Don Diva - Foxy Brown; Not her best, but an aiight comeback.
* Hip-Hop Is Dead - Nas; 2006 Rap Album of the Year
* Kingdome Come - Jay-Z; if you wanna call it "good".
* The Big Doe Rehab - Ghostface Killah; 2007 rap album of the year.
* B.A.R.S. The Barry Adrian Reese Story - Cassidy; Not bad @ all, though the lead single was GARBAGE!
* Rap-Murr-Phobia: The Fear of Real Hip-Hop - Keith Murray; QUALITY HIP-HOP ALBUM!
* Red Gone Wild - Redman; QUALITY HIP-HOP ALBUM!
* T.I. Vs. T.I.P. - T.I.; very good concept album w/hot collabos.
* Free At Last - Freeway; I could actually tolerate his voice for more than 1/2 of the album!
* American Gangster - Jay-Z; I just don't get it... BUT true Jay fans LOVE IT!
* The Cool - Lupe Fiasco; you gotta be into his music, though he DOES have some bangers on there.
* The Solution - Beanie Sigel; I was letdown 'cause I didn't feel there was a Purple Rain caliber song... BUT it's still an ok album.
* M.A.D.E. - Scarface; a couple tracks were hot.
* Undeniable - AZ; Pretty standard AZ album; 3 or 4 true BANGERS
* Super Gangster, Extraordinary Gentleman - Styles P; errrr...
* Finding Forever - Common; I only REALLY liked ONE track, heavy, but people were RIDIN' this cd HARD.
* Eardrum - Talib Kweli; I only REALLY liked ONE track, heavy, BUT "".
* 8 Diagrams - Wu-Tang Clan; I need more Meth, Ghost, & Rae, and less of the rest.
* From Nothin' to Somethin' - Fabolous; better than I expected it to be.
These are the albums I actually PURCHASED from either Best Buy or Target or Circuit City, etc.
^^^^ You Forgot Graduation probably Kanye's second best album
@bigjaehood that was the most ignorant statement ever posted on this site!!if you can make it big then go do it.. i doubt it thow you are just an ignorant fuck!! show some respect for the kid..he earned it... he makes his own beats and writes his own shit.. you prolly cant even hold a steady job for all we no.. i dont even like kanye or soulja boy but i respect there grind and hustle..and that was big of kanye to do that after his show!!! every artist ought to think like that!!it's people like you that kill hip hop and start beefs!!!every artist has a right to make the kind of music they want...soulja boy tellam = platinum!!
@ Matic, Da God and Wiz, You three cats are 3 cats who I always read your posts and have outstanding hip hop IQ's but I gotta disagree with your opinions here. 1ST, there is no denying Souljah Boy is far from lyrical, but he is an outstanding hip hop artist. if you actually check some of his production credits, you'd be surprised. Check out "Shopping Spree w/ Gucci & Gotti and tell me Souljah boy didn't put in work. The reason 'Ye compares the kid to Nas is that there origins are similar. Nas made Illmatic in a basement, Souljah Boy did the 2008 equivalent by producing his entire album at home with the Fruit Loops Application. That is some tough ish. I liken' him to Sir-Mix-alot, Hammer, and 95 south, cats who came with huge hits that had non hip hop fans buying hip hop music, which is what keeps it all moving. On the gay ish, I don't understand it, but I don't care what a man does to his body. True it's a sin but we all have sinned, they just do there own nasty ish. To call a gay man a faggot is like calling a Black man a Nigger, period. As for 'Ye's tight jeans, well I ain't into that but hey, that's his steez, it don't make him gay. I'm actually happy people don't all walk around tryin' to look thuggish. Everyone just can't do it. It's bringin more flavor to the style game and is just a creative exprexssion. When you hate, you just limit yourself. I'm guilty of it too, I hate all the fake ass gangsta's out here, and the cats who start thuggin' once they get on, or because there favorite artist does it. Nutin' hood about that at all. Y'all cats is way too intelligent to be making statements like some of these lame fucks up here. Way too knowledgeable about this ish too hate on a brother cause he ain't on the ssame ish you are. Do you hate Common, Andre 3000, or Pharrell? Those cats are all spaced out on other planets. Yeah, "Crank That," started annoying me immediately but while I was in Honduras, I peeped that out of the 120 songs they played in the club, they rock 3 Hip hop joints, Walk it out, Soul Survivor, and Crank That. Nigga, that's Honduras, and those muthaphuckas knew the dance, I never even bothered to learn that ish! Now that is bringin' hip hop to places that it previously didn't exist, bringin' new fans to the fold. That's what the game needs, cause if you ain't peepin' it's suffering right now. Nas's new album, which is one of his best, will struggle to push gold. We need those other cats to buy albums to keep the game alive.
^^WOW
tehehe
Man, you can't please everyone. Everyone has their own opinions, and unfortunately, the majority of them are dumb opinions. People like to stereotype and put people in catergories and boxes, that's just the way it is. I agree with you 'Ye but you can't win 'em all.
Soulja Boy's lyrics are wack as hell, but I mean he did produce his own beats and make his own dances..
then he got signed to a label and he is definitely getting that paper...
so although i dont really like his stuff I still think he deserves credit where credit is due
they forgot to mention that he played a piece of that jay z blueprint 3 coming soon. wasnt that bad, at least what i heard
KANYE IS RITE. BUT SOULJA BOY WILL NEVA B LIKE NAS. STYLES R DIFFERENT!
BY DA WAY FUCK RECORD SALES. NAS ALBUM IS A CLASSIC. THIS AND THE COOL R CLASSIC BUT MAY NEVA C PLATINUM AND DATS A DAMN SHAME. N B4 YALL TALK SHYT BOUT ME I BROUGHT DEM BOTH ALONG WIT C3 AND PLIES SO HATE ON!
naw naw naw, the word "CLASSIC" is gettin thrown around too much. illmatic is nas's classic. nothin else compares. Untitled is way too one dimensional and gets played out quick. after two weeks of untitled it def needed a big break !! nowhere near a classic imo. it's too wishy washy. a classic has to be perfect in every area of the cd, and this one was not...
JP, you outta ya fuckin' mind.. Nas has other albums that DO compare with Illmatic... Nas has SEVERAL CLASSICS.... HOMEY....
Yes, Illmatic IS classic... but, IT WAS WRITTEN, is his greatest album.... PERIOD.... In fact, I think it may be like, THE greatest album of all time... He was tellin' stories outta this world... at the time, people were sayin' it was "commercial"... see, nowadays, people are sayin' hip-hop is all "crunky, and snap and poppy",
but the beef in the mid to late 90s was "shiny suits" and all artists talked about were "money, cash, clothes, cars, and hoes" and "ice".... and that artists started off "hungry", and after they got some clout, they went "commercial"... that was the "knock" on It Was Written AND Volume I... that's just some hip-hop history for you. But now, looking back, I personally think It Was Written is Nas' best album.
Nas' CLASSICS:
ILLMATIC
IT WAS WRITTEN
STILLMATIC
HIP-HOP IS DEAD
UNTITLED
NEAR CLASSIC: I AM.
Take off a few dumb ass tracks off Nastradamus and God's Son and reduce the size of Street's Disciple and again, he'd have more classics.
Yo, I gotta go wit 'Matic on that one........... I gave you power, Affirmative action.......... It was written was the biggest classic not to get 5 mics..... Untitled is ill too though.
THE COOL WENT GOLD SO THATS GOOD ENOUGH
BUT THE COOL SHOULD B PLATINUM IF PPL KNEW WUT REAL HIP-HOP ARTFORM IS. BUT I BROUGHT IT AND IM GLAD I GOT A CLASSIC LP.
nas hhid is a classic lp jus finally got da cd last night! nas da goat learn it!
Now dont get me wrong when i say this but yall goin way ova board wit dis Nas classic albums and shit. I love nas den listened to all his albums but for real Illmatic and and It Was Written are his only classic albums in my opinion. Nas' one downfall is he aint versatile topic wise and preaches way too much and it gets a lil annoying. Reminds me of Biggie in a sense of how they both always spit about the same shit, if biggie woudla talked bout somethin otha then gun, drugs, and sex he would be da best rapper eva hands down cause dat nigga can spit 10x betta den pac. All of Nas albums are good cept Nastradamus but only 2 are classics. O and The Cool CLASSIC and i dont care what none of yall niggas say!
Once again, people throw the word "classic," around like a baseball when it is a term that should rarely be used. These are classics: Me against the world, Makavelli, Illmatic, It was written, Reasonable Doubt, Low End Theory, Doggystyle, Death Certificate, Only built for cuban Linx, The Infamous, The Chronic, Chronic 2001, Blueprint, Ready to Die, Enter the 36 Chambers, Southernplayalisticadillacmusic,Atliens, The Carter, and Get rich or die trying. Those albums all stand the test of time and were damn near flawless. There are other albums out there close, but not on the same level. There artists capable of creating one and have come close(Eminem,Lupe,T.I.,Ludacris,Game) but a classic is almost a movement A classic has a lasting imprint on someone's life. Sorry, Untitled was a very good album but far from classic. Hip Hop is Dead and I Am are in the same category as Nastradamus, substandard for Nas and Street's Disciple suffered from weak production. Now to a Nas addict like Matic(he's one of my favorites too)he might feel Nas's material more than most, but it's when most people agree it's undeniably good, is when it can be called classic. Sorry, fans of Lupe, Game, Luda, T.I., and Eminem, but these dudes haven't quite hit that mark yet. They all have the potential though, and I'm expecting the next classic to come from one of them.
I didn't even know Soulja made his own beats....but anyways, Ye can say what he wants and I respect that but I still think Soulja sucks and he will never get my respect nor my money
"The ever-vocal Kanye West, decided to air out opinions from Nas to Soulja Boy."
Exactly what he did is what we're doing, stating our opinion on how Baby Soulja got Disney sing alongs for lyrcis and he is def. not saving hip-hop! He may have this generation of INFANTS as his fan base but to those who were born in the 70s & 80s and listened to hip-hop throughout that time into the 90s understand that Baby Soulja may be a different aspect of music but NOT HIP-HOP ONLY BECAUSE BILLBOARD OR ANY OTHER INDUSTRY, LABEL HIS MUSIC AS THAT. Our minds are open, as an artist he's not accepted to most. As a person we really can't criticize the boy.
soulja boy is still garbage regardless of what kanye says
Soulja Boy's lyrics are garbage we all know dat, but now we all gotta respect dude 4real cuz he makin money as a teen, and makin "his" own music...you can't generally call it hip-hop, he never called it hip-hop...its dance music, jus like country, pop, and rock...D.A.N.C.E music...I respect dude now cuz he doin his thing, in his "own" genre....O yea Nas is one the greats of all time!!!! Most respected all time!!!...Learn it.
ReDef.
bumbpin that return to the 36 chambers - real shit
Talk about a classic. Most niggas nowadays probly don't even know about that album. Probly some of the rawest hip-hop in existence.
BTW - MTV is reporting that Jay came out with Ye at MDG last night and played a Ye produced track from the now confirmed "Blueprint 3"
You niggas are pathetic, you get on this site like Fuck soulja boy hes wack , bla bla bla. Then all off a sudden Kanye says hes nice and you mf now are saying that you respect the dude. HYPOCRITES
I dunno Jorge....looks like most of us still hate him
^^^so true...everyone is a hypocrite...As soon as i started reading the soulja boy portion im like "here we go, now everyone gon b cool wit soulja boy cuz KANYE says hes aight"....well i never had a problem wit him cuz i honestly did like "crank dat" when it came out and when it go played out, it go played out...soulja hasnt had any REAL singles that i know of since then so i dont even know why people hated but i knew this would happen cuz most people be on those "BE KANYE" pills these days
Kanye is my favorite rapper...but...naw i'm good
Soulja Boy has never claimed to be a lyricist. When this dude was a kid and in middle school, dance hip hop was blasting on the radio. No one was sayin that Hammer, Kid N Play and Diddy's [entire career] in the late 90's was dance songs for the club.
But, it's a problem when SB does it? Why?
No one said the phrases "Killed Hip Hop/Hip Hop is Dead" till Nas said it.
It's not just hip hop, music sales have sucked for years now.
U don't see Garth Brooks telling McGraw killed country music or Ozzy telling Good Charlotte, etc.
Just reflect on when black music was called "Devil's Music" when James Brown & Jackie Wilson were doing their thing. Or Luke/Ice-T vs. Congress.
Do like Kanye said, "Open your Minds!"
"No one said the phrases "Killed Hip Hop/Hip Hop is Dead" till Nas said it."
- I concur. (Even though, the South was kind of killing Hip-Hop when Nas said it. You gotta admit, there were a million groups and dudes who one-hit-wondered a quick, catchy hook/dance song and got a quick buck, if that.)
Also, NOBODY started talking about sales, nor ice, until Jay-Z did.
Also, NOBODY started saying Wayne was the best rapper alive until HE SAID IT.... And I still will never get that. Fuck, I'm the one who shot JFK... AND MLK.... Maybe people will believe that too, damn it.
Lastly, THERE'S NOTHING Kanye or anyone else can say about Soulja Boy to make me a believer. I THINK FOR MY FUCKIN' SELF. Soulja Boy is AYASS CHEEKS... Please don't ever throw Hammer or Kid-N-Play, or Diddy, for that matter in the same sentence as the aforementioned person. Why not?
MC Hammer is a hip-hop legend. In terms of sales, he did 30 million, plus off of 2 main albums... THAT'S CRAZY! Like it or not, he was a LEGENDARY ENTERTAINER, and took his stage show beyond what many couldn't even dream of. Albeit, it contributed to his downfall, but he had the MUSIC INDUSTRY, not just hip-hop, on LOCK for about 3-4 years.
Kid-N-Play were about having fun and rockin' parties, and that WAS hip-hop during their era (i.e. DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince, Chubb Rock, Steady B & Cool C, etc., etc.). They also have classic dances and hits, but lyrically they both were pretty good. Then, on top of that, they went on and expanded way beyond what anyone would have thought. These dudes even had a Saturday Morning cartoon, back when kids actually watched REAL Saturday Morning Cartoons (by the way, Hammer did too!). ON TOP OF THAT, they have @ least FOUR CLASSIC HOOD MOVIES: HOUSE PARTY I, II, III and Class Act... Kid-N-Play DID THE DAMN THING, so please DO NOT compare them to duke...
And, Diddy.... where do I even start? This dude rode an exercise bike for mad hours just to get a convo with Russell, so he'd hire him, as an intern, FOR FREE.... Working for FREE, he had to find ways to get back and forth DAILY from DC TO NY... Do you know how expensive that is???? Then he introduced the world to some of THE greatest MUSICAL/R&B/Hip-Hop acts of ALL-TIME: The Notorious B.I.G., Mary J. Blige (a LOT of people don't know that), and the rest of the Bad Boy Family... Bad Boy had RADIO ON LOCK FOR AT LEAST 5-6 years, and NO ONE can deny that: Faith Evans, the affiliated Lil' Kim (who was signed to Undeas, but was always with Bad Boy), Jr. Mafia (Lil' Ceas'), Total, Carl Thomas, Ma$e, Black Rob, Craig Mack, 112, The L.O.X. (even though he raped them), Shyne, Dream, G. Dep, and we ALL LOVED Chopper, E. Ness, and Babs Bunny's wack ass Da Band... oh and the GOAT, Dylan, Dylan, and Dylan... Like it or not, Diddy is one of the richest men in America under 40.
Sorry, tkizzle, that I had to do it to you; I felt compelled.
Actually.......... 3000 been sayin' hip hop was dead (Starts palying Aquemini)
^^Exactly.
Tkizzle, Q-Tip said HHID back in like 00'. Niggas in the east coast been said hip hop is dead. Nas just brought it to the fore-front. Nas was just saying what a lot of people already felt for years.
mos def said dat shit years ago...along wit outkast....so plz stop given all the credit 2 nas....he only said it 2 sell albums
P.S.
Charismatic...Hate to tell you, but Soulja Boy also has a cartoon @ the top of 2009, clothing line, shoe deal, fitted cap deal and movies as well... and none of the aforementioned things have anything to do w/ his lyrics. So comparing his genre of hip hop to those artists is relevant, you just forgot to mention that the youngin' is accomplishing the same ventures as the early 90's legends.
@ Charis >>>Even though, the South was kind of killing Hip-Hop when Nas said it
Music has sucked no matter the location of the country. If you haven't noticed the South has only resurfaced to the top since it's reign in the late 90's when No Limit was selling the most records of any independent label. So the South has seen the top of the game before. Don't pigeon hole the South w/ just snap music when half of the artists are killing the game.
People seem to forget that there are east coast artists w/ wack DANCE songs, southern production, southern collabos and "ringtone" records as well... maybe if they stop looking through their tunnel vision, it would be visible.
The more hate the artists get, the more their popularity increases.
uhh....niggas do need to open they minds lil more n stop hatin on every thing that comes out in rap music....
hempsteadny, its called dance music, or snap music. Dance songs come wit dances thats how people dance off of them. And for those who think dancing is not hip hop or killing it then you dont know the history of hip hop.
where do i start...kanye was once one of my fav.. but because of him defending soldier boy of all people, (which for the record.. I NEVER LIKED)just because he got out the hood, and blah, blah , blah he defends him...let that nigga defend himself you ain't his publisist* so stop it... and second... nas and soldier boy are two complete opposites...and shouldn't be put together in the same sentence....
YEA CAUSE NAS IS A LEGEND AND SOULJA BOY GOIN B A ONE HIT WONDER
kanye didnt mention nutin bout jim jones....i smell fiiiiiiiiiiiiiish...lol
let me tell alot of u niggaz that dont understand the art/meaning, R.A.P=rhythm and poetry, their is all kinds forms of music its been like that for years from krs (lyrics overall word punchline king) to fresh prince(creative and reality) mc hammer(dance no lyrics) etc.i can keep going, people just dont look back at alot of shyt back then and compare, hip hop /rap culture and entertainment u know what im talking bout
Actually Mc Hammer DID have lyrics!
~Be Eazy!
Co-Sign Wiz! AND, Kid-N-Play did too... they were like a pre-Outkast!
I almost agree, but Hammer was that dude... and Kid and Play one of my fav. groups of all time. Niggas forget about them.
We 2 HYPE!!!
two legit two legit two quit lol my bad homie
It's cool....
We all slept on Hammer's lyrics back then because we were soo amazed at how smooth that muthafucka was on the dance floor!
Plus we were all trying to figure out where the fuck we could buy some baggy pants and steel tipped dress shoes! lol.
~Be Eazy!
kanye a fuckin drama queen
Ok so kanye wests problem is that everyone doesn't like soulja boy just like every other rapper has people that aren't their fans and kanye west doesn't want people to call him gay to his face because it offends his beliefs...I don't think I can give him what he wants
I understand what ur saying @charismatic but to compare the likes of soulja boy to the oppressive govt. of europe who creates genocide among an impovrished nation is lil extreme dont u think???In fact that would be the exact opposite of what u witnessed ur self at Liacouras.Which seems like unity to me.Now how could we hate this youngster who made a song that was responsible for bringing ppl together in a posative manner?When that seems to be one of the outcomes of this teeny bopper music,fuck the dumb shit I do respect his hustle
Interesting assessment... I respect the comment.
Great points Charis, I was referring to DANCE HIP HOP in general. Diddy [not the Bad Boy Family] is not a lyricist, but a business genius, I'm not doubting his ethics in the corporate world. He's on his shit! But, he made dance hip hop just like this dude and people don't jump on Diddy's case for doing so.
CHARISMATIC - FUCK SOULJA BOY'S HUSTLE.
"Now, don't get me wrong; I am NOT hating. I LOVE to see my own people succeed."
From the sounds of it, you don't.
I'm not a fan of his music either, but the dude owns 85% of his album w/ fruityloops ass beats, he obviously is doing something right.
And Cash Money did not get the $100 million contract until renegotiations after Juvie's/Hot Boys success. The $30 mill put them on.
Stepshow? That's whassup.. What's your frat homie?
Kanye is a female, straight up.
SOULJA BOY IS HIP HOP..GOT THE GREATEST CD OF ALL TIME
CRANK DAT SOULJA BOY