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Joe Budden Say's "Mood Muzik Will Sell More than Saigons Album"

by LYRICALTHOUGHT

WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 21, 2007

For most unsigned artist attention is something you crave, and a buzz is something you work towards, but former Def Jam recording artist Joe Budden is no regular unsigned artist. It is for this reason that despite Budden's recent release from Def Jam, he has been in the headlines more than ever. If he isn’t talking about his break up with Def Jam, he's discussing his beef with underground rapper "Ransom", or what seems to be a budding beef with New York rapper Saigon.

In a recent interview with Hip Hop Game, Budden say's that his new mixtape "Mood Musik will probably sell more than Saigon’s debut album." Looks like Budden might be in the headlines a little longer.

”When it’s time for the album to come out, Saigon will learn the hard way. I’ll probably sell more of Mood Musik than Saigon will sell of his album, and that’s realistically speaking. Don’t get it fucked up. I have all the love and respect in the world for Saigon as an artist, but once you try to discredit me, you should at least try to get the facts straight." Said Joe.


In response to a blog Saigon posted on his myspace page, where he stated that he

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was going to "Smack the Earth Wind and Fire" out of Budden, because of a BET freestyle that Budden did where Saigon felt targeted, Joe said:

“When I made the line, I wasn’t trying to diss him and it’s unfortunate that he took it that way. And however he wants to handle it from this point on, we can handle it that way." He also said “I don’t really give two shits about this. If he wants to approach me, that’s fine with me. If he wants to talk about this civilly, that’s fine with me also. If he wants to handle this on wax, that’s fine with me also."

Despite some of the remarks Budden did say that he respected Saigon as an artist and did not have a problem with him.

During the interview Buddens also discussed underground rapper Ransoms third diss track titled "The End of Joe Budden" where Ransom vehemently calls Budden gay.

Despite the track Buddens stated that he would not bother coming out with another track responding “I don’t blame him. I blame his engineer and I blame his entourage for that. When you’re trying to discredit somebody and battle somebody, repeating yourself for five minutes at the end of the record doesn’t really get the job done, especially when you’re calling somebody gay. When you’re doing that you sound like Wendy Williams.

That’s like when you’re in elementary school and kids tell mother jokes. Ransom knows that I’m not gay. That’s something so childish that I won’t even dignify that. Ransom knows the caliber of females that I keep around. He used to ask me for advice about how I did it. On the second diss record, I had a girlfriend that everyone was trying to fuck. Then on the third record, I’m a faggot or I’m bisexual. You’re confusing me, Ransom.

Budden went on to say that he holds no grudges against Ransom personally but that he would "never work with him again"

Mood Musik 3 is slated to be released December, 2007

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Lil Malet

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— 7 months ago

no one care what you say hommie .

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and the same goes for you

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Cory.P

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Cory.P
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— 7 months ago

your Fag homo. get rid of the lil faggy Avatar, Take his dick out of your mouth and change your Screen name.

and stop trying to down play real Artists.

i just might actually Buy MM3

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gregthedc

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gregthedc
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— 7 months ago

Budden doesn't want Saigon to approach for a physical confrontation. Saigon would do him worse than he did Prodigy. BUT if he's gonna try Buddens on wax then he's up for a good fight. Joey B. aint just some average rapper. Just my thoughts....I'm coppin both cds.

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Big Freeze

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Big Freeze
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— 7 months ago

neither one of these dudes is gonna sell shit, so it really doesnt matter if joe sells a couple hundred more mixtapes. i know yall will probably get angry at that, but these dudes arent mainstream rappers so they wont sell much. its a shame tho cuz saigon is nice.

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DAVID_BARRELS
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— 7 months ago

Here is the official tracklisting. MOOD MUZIK 3

1. Hiatus produced by Mellow Madness
2. Ventilation produced by Klassiks
3. Talk to Him produced by WMS Sultan
4. Warfare f/ Joell Ortiz produced by Klassiks
5. Dear Diary produced by WMS Sultan
6. Get No Younger f/E-Zo produced by Klassiks
7. Star Inside of Me f/Suzy Q produced by Dub B
8. Killa BH (skit)
9. Send Him Our Love produced by Klassiks
10. Family Reunion f/Ransom, Hitchcock, Fabolous, TBD Produced by Sha-Tek
11. 5th Gear produced by WMS Sultan
12. Rollcall produced by WMS Sultan
13. Secrets f/ Emany produced by Klassiks
14. All of Me f/ Emany produced by Klassiks
15. Folders Brother (Killa BH solo)
16. Long way to go f/Mister Probz produced by Soul Searching
17. Thall Shall Not Fall produced by Klassiks
18. Still My Hood produced by Wyks

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yaady
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— 7 months ago

it will cuz saigon "quit" da rap game remember lol

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TheShow

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TheShow
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— 7 months ago

Im looking foward to Mood Muzik, but wtf is up with saigon and quiting on like 3 different occasions now

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Illseed

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Illseed
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— 7 months ago

honestly< i like saigon and all his material, was looking forward to dude coming out, people were juggling words like classic album, but i lost all interest when he announced this "i quit rap" (-publicity- stunt)/(please, buy my album and show me your missing me in the rap game scheme) worse than the kanye v.s. 50 approach, brought it to a whole all time low with that move, im not fuckin with sai no more..

however; i will be copping that MM3 LOL

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Blueprint

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Blueprint
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I see where you're coming from bro but if Saigon was only interested in making sales like you're saying he'd be doing what these niggas from the South are doing and hop on a track and try to rap about what will get people dancin in the club and sell ringtones. Instead he's putting out a record that will change the way black people think and help them move forward as a race. If you listen to what he says in interviews and some of his shit that's already out you'll see he knows what he's talking about. You ever hear "The Color Purple"? I've heard all Jay's and Nas' shit and none of the shit they've ever said is more significant than what Saigon was talking about on that track. That shit was on Pac's level and you can't deny that. Now the point I'm trying to get at this nigga has a purpose unlike anyone else in the game, and that's to be a leader to his people and deliver some real hip-hop which you just don't see anymore. He's not trying to pull none of this publicity shit, Prodigy jumped out at him, Budden jumped out at him, and the only part of his interview the radio gave a fuck about the other night was drama that makes them money they didn't give a shit about the parts that people should be hearin, but still everyone's jumpin out at Saigon kickin dirt on his name for no reason and that's why he's sick of the rap game. Budden talks about sales like that's the shit that matters cuz he don't give a fuck about anyone else, he's in this shit to get ahead for himself. You can't even compare the two Saigon could give a fuck if he gets outsold by anyone, he's not in this shit for himself, he's here for the people. Period.

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— 7 months ago

thats an excellent p.o.v. and yes i have heard "color purple" off warning shots where he talks about unifying red and blue together which obviously makes purple... thats a great track, but why pull the i quit rap scheme, were so many artists have already been their done that, so if he comes back within a week, is it ok? it's like saying one thing and doing another, i cant get with that, i cant respect that..

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Weexy

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Weexy
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— 7 months ago

i'll second what you said, i recently started hearin saigon, and i have to say most of his material is so much better than what joe did. am not just stickin to Sai, just sayin the truth

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45.Caliber

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45.Caliber
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— 7 months ago

i dont think saigon is quitting, nor do i think its a publicity stunt. hes just not used to being in the lime light. everything he sAYS/does goes all over the internet blogs up the ass internet rumors. its alot to deal with

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DAVID_BARRELS

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DAVID_BARRELS
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— 7 months ago

NA SIAGON ALREADY QUIT HE WANTS TO FIGHT JOE BUDDEN no lie he really has beef with em for saying a freestyle about em on bet

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NNAMDY

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NNAMDY
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— 7 months ago

LMAO,BOTH OF YALL ALBUM GONNA SELL PLASTIC

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gregthedc

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gregthedc
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— 7 months ago

LOL That's the unfortunate truth....

www.myspace.com/eptheguapgetter

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DAVID_BARRELS
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lol any nikka who writes a story about them quiting rap on myspace should quit anywayz if he so gangster why is he on myspace bulletins ? atleast go on a dvd and explain yurr situation

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yaady

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yaady
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— 7 months ago

ha ha, yo can u imagine him sitting there n typing all dat shit... spell check lmao

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gmg86
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— 7 months ago

all these mother fuckers are wack....ain't know of 'em gonna sell over 100,000 total! who gives a shit?

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Macthaknife
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— 7 months ago

nigga, you wack

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SPiDER_MaN
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— 7 months ago

JOE IS DAT DUDE SAIGON IS DAT DUDE BUT NO ONE FUCKING WITH THAT FREEWAY ALBUM SHIT IS CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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yaady

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yaady
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— 7 months ago

dat shit sold like 36k its 1st week according to da sound scan... dont get me wrong im not saying freeway garbage

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— 7 months ago

have to concur free did his thang on FAL

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Weexy
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dude it just came out on the 20th! what are you talkin about 1st week!

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Illseed
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yaadys legit there, sadly but free didn't pull in for the classic that he made, thanks for all the PROMOTION def jam? they need to take better care of that, or beans is gunna go the same route..

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Illseed

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Illseed
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yaadys legit there, sadly but free didn't pull in for the classic that he made, thanks for all the PROMOTION def jam? they need to take better care of that, or beans is gunna go the same route..

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SPiDER_MaN
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— 7 months ago

WHAT???? YOU GOT TO BE JOKING COME ON PEOPLE FREEWAY IS REAL HIP HOP THE ALBUM IS CRAZY!!!!!! WHAT A SHAME THIS GAME HAS BECOME ...COME ON PEOPLE LETS HELP FREEWAY I SWEAR ITS A MUST HAVE COP THE ALBUM WHOS WITH ME?????????

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yaady

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yaady
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Roc-A-Fella/IDJ Philly rapper Freeway is looking at 35k for his sophomore album, Free At Last, the long-awaited follow-up to his 2003 debut, Philadelphia Freeway.

da nigga had no promotion for his album, n besides "corporate" america dont know who freeway is

"corporate" america = album sales

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i copped a copy, its definatley going to be a slept on "classic"

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wizzdom
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this fake rap beef is fuckin ridiculous

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BossHogg617
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joe is such a real ass dude you can tell he really doesnt give a fuck he has nothing 2 prove he was just like its sad he took that way whatever saigon get worked up everytime some1 says his name like he always has 2 prove himself he just need 2 chill out cuz hes a great artist

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WhoozThaBoss

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WhoozThaBoss
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Saigon never really impressed me... But damn, for him to take that line WAY out of context and go ON and ON about it shows how frustrated he REALLY is.

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DeAuVEa

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DeAuVEa
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— 7 months ago

Yea, people actually purchase Mood Muziks as if they were album.. Only reason why Saigon was trippin because he knows Budden could slow his career down..

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DBlock Boi

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DBlock Boi
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— 7 months ago

Niggas is just hatin now days man

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J-Hov1
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— 7 months ago

Joe talkin pretty tough for a nigga who wont move any units.. Sai>>>buddens..

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rich6768

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rich6768
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— 7 months ago

joe is dat dude ima cop that shit i mean why wudnt i? joey spit fire derty jersey stand up!!

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Danger Rich

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Danger Rich
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— 7 months ago

BUDDDENNNNSSSS!!!!! MY Nigga...I fuck wit Sai Too, but budden is the Fuckin Truth, i been down since 02

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joe211

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joe211
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who gives a fuck about these clowns, they think beef is only way to sell music, and ya fags talking about they the truth??? Yo stopping fronting cus that ain't truth, that's stupidity, 209!!

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DOMO202

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DOMO202
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— 7 months ago

that a be a good battle but most of this rap beef is fake they just beefing for the money i respect both of them as a artist but i think saigon album would sell more

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— 7 months ago

wtf iz wrong wit saigon hes been actin funny

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— 7 months ago

its a shame becuz saigon is hot. his actions is gonna hold him back..... Joe Budden for mayor lol. MM3 is gonna be amazing.

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gettalife
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— 7 months ago

my guess is that both these rappers won't sell.

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birdman05
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dam joe said his mixtape gone sell more than sai's album ummmm last time i checked limewire downloading affects everyone so jus call it even

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tone8834
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— 7 months ago

shit is retarded saigon is toooo emotional it was a damn punchline so u wanna fuck him up cause he said a punchline on fighklub lol grow up he wants to quit he wants to put his album out on his own he wants 2 slap woman lol groww uppp

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Saigiddy

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Saigiddy
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— 7 months ago

I agree wit u fam, Saigon was Defnitley in my top 5 artists widout an album, dn get me wrong all da music he put out is still classic material to me, but ye he took it to far this time, dats jus soft givin up like dat liek cmon, lol no word of a lie, i been waitin for an album for YEARS, but ye Sai, u fucked up, even Joe bein humble about this

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it might not sell more but it will deffinitely get more play

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B-Rid3r
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I'm gonna go with Blueprint on this one, everything he said is true yaknow... the only thing Budden respond with was the albumsales... Saigon don't give a fuck about that he just wants the people know that he has alot of talent and that he wants to show how real life is over there, like that track Pain In My life.

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Saigon one of the realest rappin. Check his record, he quit cause he ain't on no kiss ass shit. He is a real nigga. If he said he quiting he quiting. He don't want to play a fake character so he can make it. He rather say fuck it I will do it myself than kissing ass and them saying he can do it. and the comment he said about P not coming out of his cell is the truth. Saigon has a fat track record. Nigs in the pen fuck with sai. The nig been locked up since 16 for murder..

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westkeptwiz

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westkeptwiz
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yo, Budden is lyrically better, and he has a bigger fan base PERIOD. Dont get me wrong saigon is a beast too but to me he tries too hard to be deep and when you hear some of the stuff he says off track he contridicts himself a lot. He stays on some dont be like me increase the peace type shit then wants to "slap the earth, wind, and fire" out of a nucca for saying with the chicks i hit and run like saigon... LMAO, that nucca did HIT AND RUN so why you mad... its the truth... YALL NUCCAS NEED TO READ THE WHOLE BUDDEN INTERVIEW ON HIPHOPGAME.COM, HE WASNT EVEN DISRESPECTING SAI WHEN HE SAID HE WOULD SELL MORE BUT ITS PROPAGANDA, THE MEDIA TAKES WHAT THEY THINK WILL MAKE YALL READ THIS SHIT AND PUTS IT IN BOLD ASS LETTERS TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE BEEF

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Supaman

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Supaman
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— 7 months ago

Lol....I got love for Joey no doubt...but once again im ridin with Saigon on this issue. If that Quitting rap thing was a publicity stunt then I am definitely dissappointed...but I think I speak for mankind when I say:

Mood Muzik 3? Its about fuckin time.

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DCintheSouth
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— 7 months ago

I dont think Saigon can generate any publicity. Its not like lil 106 and Park girls are talkin about him. Joe budden iz more mainstream than Saigon anyway. Niggas kno who he is, from that club song he had. I ask people do they kno who sai is, and they say "who?". I pick Sai ova Joey anyday.

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eastie88
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ok ok ok, they are two completely different styles of rappers, buddens is more of that punch line rapper like fab or jr writer or half the rappers out there, i aint takin nuttn away from his skills but im stating the facts. saigon is realer than buddens, saigon is a hundred times better of a lyricist than buddens. saigon raps about real shit, he is gonna drop his album then quit( supposedly) i mean would it suprise ne1 if he came back? i mean he's probably aggrivated with the rap game and who can blame him, with all the trash that comes out now he is one of the realest rappers out. Joey will probably sell more but on dawgs he shouldn't cuz he dont have half the skill that saigon does. and true story saigon would knock joey out cold, early

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Bigp5437

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Bigp5437
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And Budden doesn't rap about real shit? Umm, you ever listen to Mood Muzik?

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westkeptwiz

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westkeptwiz
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Dog you crazy if you think Joe dont rap about real shit... He raps about his real life, from family issues to baby mama issues... dont get me wrong saigon is dope but hes not even close to Budden... AND NEVER AGAIN IN YO LIFE PUT JOE BUDDEN IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS JR WRITER

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YoungF$F89
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FUCK SAGION,THAT NIGGA AINT FUCKING WIT JOEY.

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DraeBless
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wow, alot u dudes dont have a clue...

joe budden >>>> Almost every other rapper you can think of.

POINT BLANK PERIOD

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hoodalum2kx
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— 6 months ago

budden use to box hes a trained boxer why would he be worried about a nigga tryin to swing on him ,saigon smoke too much weed and cant go toe to toe with someone who was trained to keep his wind in a fight ....get tha fuck outta here!!,but lyrically that would be a classic battle on wax i cant wait for it cuz its gone happen!!(i love this rap shit!!)buddens vs game was classic ,budden vs banks was classic,when ever you get two talented punchline mc's in a battle the outcome is this thing we call HIP HOP!

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hoodalum2kx
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DONT GET IT TWISTED SAIGON GOT PUNCHES ...HE NICE WIT 'EM , HE JUST AINT FUCKIN WIT JOE ON THE PUNCHES THO(BUT THEN AGAIN WHO IS??EXCEPT FAB!) SAI GIDDY SAY""I STILL CONCEAL THEM 9 DOUBLE M'S, AND I AINT TALKIN BOTU THAT WHITE KID ,IIGHT KID''...HE GOT SOME SHIT AT TIMES BUT HE JUST GOT A SICK ASS FLOW !! BUT HE STILL CANT FUCK WIT JUMP OFF!! BUT ITS GONE BE WORTH THE PRICE OF ADMISSION!

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