According to industry insiders, the two have been rumored to be at odds since those comments either over money or Jones’ over night success. Weeks since, Jones and Cam, along with the rest of the Diplomats have been quiet about the possible in-house feud, not speaking on what the problem stemmed from. Dipset members bypassed the incident in interviews as just a minor ruffle among the top ranks of the group.
Jimmy has recently opened up to MTV.com and explained his rift with Cam’ron, claiming it might not be all good, but it’s all about loyalty.
“Shouts to Cameron,” Jones said Tuesday — using the MC’s full name — from the set of Yung Berg’s “Sexy Lady” remix video. “We going through our little differences and things like that. When you come up in this game, loyal to a flaw, you look to certain people to always take care of you above and beyond, because you’d do the same thing for them. And, of course, there’s a lot of money at stake here. And no matter what anyone tells you, when money comes into play, people do change in certain ways and things like that. Because we didn’t grow up with this type of money we playing with now, so it’s only [normal] that you’re gonna change in some aspect. But for us, loyalty is everything, and when you break that code of honor a little bit, it tends to make the water rough.
“I opted to go back to the dock and start building my own boat,” Jones continued. “So I could go out and fish for myself, you know what I mean? There’s still a fleet of Diplomat boats and when the time comes we’ll all get on it and we’ll go out and fish again. But right now, I’m my own fisherman.”
It looked as if Jim was trying to put all rumors to end that him and Cam’ron were not having problems, by him appearing in the, “We Fly High” video. Jones told MTV News at the time the concept of the video was to squash any rumors that he and Cam had a problem with each other. But on the accompanying album by Jones, last year’s Hustler’s P.O.M.E. (Product of My Environment), Cam only appears on one song; same for the Diplomats’ recent compilation, More Than Music, Vol. 2.
“There was a little disruption going on in there, but it’s still Diplomats by all means,” Jones said.
“That’s what that’s all about, it ain’t got to do with nothing else,” he continued. “It’s about two brothers feuding, and brothers do feud, you can’t take that [away]. I know brothers that go through it tremendously, even scrap. You know the media always look for something to pick on. The Diplomats been running for a hell of a long time. We going on 11 years right now, and yes, I know if you seen me and Cam, wherever you seen Cam, you seen Jim Jones and things like that. But like I said, everybody gets older and sometimes best friends do grow apart as the time goes on, but you never know what could happen. We might just pop up together and slap fire out of one of you. So don’t ever forget that. What I can do, what me and Cam could do, toward each other, you punks can’t do. So if one of you punks get out of line, I’m still gonna handle you. You understand me? Don’t get the family business twisted. You will get handled, hardbody.”
On what has been one of the most difficult years for Jimmy, with his beef with Cam, and losing a friend and artist Stack Bundles, he flirts with the idea that he would work with 50 Cent and one time rival Nas. The same can not be said about rapper Jay Z, has he states the bridge has been burned between the two.
“I would love to do a song with Fif,” Jones revealed. “I told people I’m a businessman. At the end of the day, you never say never because you don’t make your decisions, God does. I know there’s a lot of grudges, I know there’s a lot of gripes out there.
“There’s probably one person I wouldn’t do a song with, and that’s probably Jay[-Z]. I really ain’t got no taste for that right there. That’s not my side of the fence and that’s not my speed. ... [However, if other MCs] you want to lock it, holler at me. We could lock in together, we could do a song dissing each other, we could do a song that’s getting money, we could do whatever. I’m with it. You can bring your crew, I can bring my crew, we’ll lock in the studio. That goes for 50, that goes for Nas, that goes for anybody.”
COMMENTS
Dipset and G Unit on the same track.. that'd be good for NYC hip hop
this article is so terrible. jus fukn old news.
jones is a good rapper bt he nt on nas level. i thnk he should jus hush an keep maken good music ya digg. n dnt even waiste tyme n energy beefn .
is'nt that the same shit he was dissin jay about when he left dame...bout jay is not his speed, he's doin the same thing.
wh0 t0lD you that li3
silly niggers
dipset is dividing
is it me ordoes this cracker look like a square trying to act hard...lol
thanks R.O.C. , I didnt read the article, and i dont kno wuts happening....
SiiT down White Boy
How u gonna diss Nas and then make a track wit him. Jones is on some Bi polar, Game shit. Jim Jones wouldn't sound right makin a song wit Jay or Nas, Hes not even on there level.
did jay and nas do a song together. now stfu
did devilson jsut say game is bi-polar
MOG
true he aint on nas level... but jay iz nothing special he got that same wannabe nas flow and sounds like the same come up new york rapper..
my top 5 greatest rap artist:
1-Tupac
2-B.I.G.
3-Dr.Dre
4-Snoop dogg
5-DMX
Bruh u gotta throw nas up there to like at 1
Lol at your list...Theres More Pac and Big Dick riders then there is Weezy dickriders... I admit Pac was good but he wasnt #1... Heres my list...(I dont care if you dont like my list its my personal opinion so fuck off)
1.Immortal Technique
2.Rakim
3.Jedi Mind Tricks
4.Eminem
5.Scarface
i dont like Cam, but i do like Jim and Juelz, 50 is right , Jimmy should be the HNIC, Camm is garbage
look at all these dumb nigger monkeys arguing haha
Wtf? Ban this racist fool..
wtf? who keeps leaving the cages unlocked at the zoo!!!
lol
you know everyone there is ignorance everywhere......heres' one example of it
lmfao wow mah dude you sound reeeL dumb ... lmfao fuQkiin Ku Klux Klan CrakeRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Dipset and Gunit can't join cause they would clash. BUT they can and should do songs together. It should turn out well as long as they make hits and not misses
the white man marches on...
damn u didnt last long! lol
i bet this is the birdman fag
We know your just trying to be funny dipshit,But it isn't working HAHA jokes on you PC thug
Nas will NEVER do a song with Jenny Jones. Fuck outta here.
^right 50 probly wud tho...but this whole thing wuz stupid he still didn't really say wuts up wit him & pam
its funny cause jay said Ion no if yall no u n a hole
dude is okay, well compared to Camron he's great. But to do a song with Nas, that wouldn't even fit... And to eminem 101, it seems like you're the type that will write a letter to Baraka Obama, and Barry Bonds, talking about you'll kill them, if they succeed, but will be the BIGGEST a** kisser in their face. Don't understand your type. You must have gotten beatup by some black kids at school, or a black dude, must have taken your girlfriend from you. Do you not get any love from mom and dad at home. Now watch when you respond, you're gonna start talking real stupid like a chicken with its head cutoff.
I think the nigger is black fam,But he's one of those guys that don't nobody like at all so this is where he hangs out out...
yeah nas wont rap with jimmy but 50 def would hes been buildin jimmys ego up with that "we like jimmy better anyways"thisd jus kill him off once and for all
Jim Jones should be bitch slapped up and fuckin down lenox ave. I used to really like dipset....then right after 50 cent said put cam on punishment...you aint see cam, but you see jim....Jim listening to 50 cent? God, Jim Jones is such a fuckin faggot to follow 50 and not his bredren, cam. You stick with your fam no matter what, handle y'all business behind doors, if y'all fam. Now he gone sing on tracks with 50.....I really don't think Nas would make tracks with Jim Jones...Nas rhymes to well for Jim to hang. I CANT STAND 50 TELLIN DIPSET WHAT TO DO! DIPSET FELL OFF, JUST BECAUSE OF THAT, 50 PULLIN UP THEY SKIRT, AND THEY LETTIN HIM DO IT....JIM JONES GONNA GET BUSTED IN HIS FACE, JUST LIKE WHEN CAM DID BY TRUE LIFE. WATCH...
I SINCERELY CAN'T BELIEVE THEY FOLLOWIN 50....THAT IS SUCH A BAD LOOK...IT SHOWS YOU AINT GOT NO MIND FOR YOURSELF!!!
U-MAD?
jimmys lookin after himself u gotta do that cams killin the dips with the 60 mins shit and standin braggin about a stinkin pool in his boxers sayin its gonna be a hot summer june 1st.its july 19th and theres been 1 vid of him at a party lol and the dips were at jimmys party elsewhere.but fif is playin the dips against each other thats power
How jimmy gone say its all about loyalty and dip set, but then go on to say he would love to do a song with fif, yea he right that would make the water a lil rough, "cameron" would shit himself
LOL...literally
Cam'runnnnnn is a bitch ass nigga.....they way jim jones is goin i think he is gonna have major success real sooooon
but as 4 doing joints with 50 and nas, if it works ya'll gotta remember that it is always business never personal
jim is leaving dipset
GuD he ShuD
After all that "smackin" niggas now he wanna do a song wit niggas. i guess money over beefin is the new thing.
I would like to see that combo 50 and jim on the same track going at each other or going for money.... that would be ballin....
50 is garbage i dont get why neone would wanna work with him.
how come tru life cant get handled hardbody? i hate these one sided interviews where the artists get to bypass all the real talk and get to air their version without answering any hard lined questions. thats the media if you asked me.
first of jim jones is an asshole for sayin he would work wit nas after talking all that shit, with nas and jay it was a battle and there were reasons jay went far with nas baby's mother but jim was talkin shit just cause cam was and hes horrible anyway but did any of you see the video "cam'ron back from vacation" well its sad i think jim jones is embarassed because cam'ron has been looking like an idiot for about a year or two now
can i hear 50,nas,jim on da same track dat would be hot
ya great would cover all the basics. mediocre, good, bad
i wounder if jim jones will still b sayn ill samck your coffie off nigga
what I want to know is when is somebody going to interview Cam'ron. Like... Damn...
even when i read your older comments its certain that your a fag
my top 5 greatest rap artist:
1-Tupac
2-B.I.G.
3-Dr.Dre
4-Snoop dogg
5-DMX
neither one of those(nas,jay-z) non-creative,same old bording new york flow rappers is on the list.
It aint hate just speaking the truth every song I hear has good lyrics...but damn be crative for once and stop that old bording NY style.
too busy dickridin west coast artists on that list......where's rakim or krs-1? they are both better than snoop, dr. dre and dmx
Dr. Dre doesnt even write his own raps... I don't get it.
now if you r serious go jump off a roof you seriously think snoop is abetter rapper then nas,jay-z or big L. snoop not even the best rapper in la i would rather listen to ice cube then snoop all snoop rap about is pimpin and smokin and u say jayz and nas are come up rappers be serious.fo shezell dizzle get out and dont come back on here again.heres my list
l-2pac
2-B.I.G.
3-Big l
4-jay-z
5-nas
and im sorry you lil wayne groupies he's not even close to making this list.
That "boring NY Style" is what has made it possible for u Cali niggaz to be seen. We made the genre and we have the most style out of anyone in the US period...I dont think anyone can deny that...we have the best style and how can u say nas and jay arent creative "RYDER187", have u heard Illmatic, have u heard it was written, have u heard Reasonable DSoubt or Blueprint......I know ur biggin up ur part of the country...but to say NY is boring is dissin the creator of this rap shit and thats Ludacris....Get ur shit straight my dude!!
cosign
nigga i'll give nas props, but CAMAL FASE is just a swagger jacker.. on his underground shit he use to rap different then started copying nas flow.
I understand that business is business and settin your differences aside but Jim Jones is doin da same shit he was dissin Jay-Z for...he got at Jay cuz he was beefin wit Nas and then they made peice on dat tour now he sayin he'll make a song wit 50 and Nas wen he was jus sayin how he'll smack his kufi off his head!!!
jim jones is on bigger movements now!!!...its business and dats wat hes about!
Jimmy need 2 jus chill out and give cam time 2 get his shit 2gether. no homo wit dis shit, but dats jus some grown man shit n jimmy need 2 understand dat. i dont no wat da fuck he talkin bout when he say he wood do a song wit 50, dats week on jimmys part. cam really aint gonna fuck wit him if he do dat
dipset will never divide they a fukin gang a real gang. but jim smart he gone make money by puttin down them dumb ass grudges.
DIPSET FOR LIFE ALL DAY NEVER EVER BREAK AND NO GUNIT ARE NOT ON DIPSETS LEVEL JIM AND CAM ITS ALL LOVE BUT 50 AND JIM DAT WONT SOUND RITE BIRDGANG NIGGAZ
what tha fuck??????? am i the only one who noticed this shit? This nigga jimmy going on and on in riddles about how important loyalty is and blah blah blah. And his ass gon follow that up with, "I would love to do a song with Fif". WAT THA FUCK. 50 and Cam'ron been beefin like hell and u gon say that you would like to do a song with him? Is it because 50 said you should be the leader of the group? and cam be demoted to soldier? Jimmy pulled a bitch card there. Contracting ass. I don't give a shyt about dipset and as far as im concerned both Jimmy and Cam are trash, but that shyt right there aint right.............
man nas wouldnt work with this clown. just wouldnt sound right
its good to see Jim Jones his own man
im a dipset fan and its nice to see jim doing his own thang cause cam been fallin off since purple haze his last good aLbum was come home with me and purple haze was aight ya dig
id be mad if i was any dipset member cuz jones the most popular and the least talented .
Ryder187 — about 4 hours ago
my top 5 greatest rap artist:
1-Tupac
2-B.I.G.
3-Dr.Dre
4-Snoop dogg
5-DMX
dr dre dont even write his own shit foo
at the end of the day its still dipset all day....capo!
knowledgeisking afgree with you bro dats fucked up dre has a nice flow and all but homie don't write his shit like u said so he could never be in my top 5
Jimmy da boss of Dipset now
jimmy aint the boss
he is like seperated but still with them
and heres my top 2
Cassidy the hustla
Kanye West
He wishes,Nas ain't gonna work with no wack rappers.
top 5 mc's:
1.Notorious
2.Pun
3.Big L
4.jay z
5.(undecided)
top 5 lyricists:
1.2pac
2.Nas
3.Big L
4.Notorious
5.Raekwon
jim jones would sound so fuckin stupid if he did a song with NAS which will never happen. they are on the opposite sides of the spectrum in rap talent. its like putting big or pac on a song with lil romeo or nick cannon
jim jones is wack he cant hang wit nas lyrically the only people that got a chance in dipset is juelz and hell rell
top 5 mcs
1-jay z
2-eminem
3-tupac
4-biggie
5-redman
i don't think you own any big l or pun joints.
lol but redman proved himself i guess
that shit is off....kick CAMAL FASE outta there cuz he just a bad version of nas.. put nas instead!!!if you gonna put any of them
^^^You need to learn how to spell. The artical is about Dipset breaking up, not about Jay-z.
yeah i do got capital punishment and lifestylez but neither of them released enough material or had the chance to show enough consistency.even big only had 2 albums before he died those albums were 2 top 5 albums ever so he deserves his spot
Want makes this dude think that he's good enough to do a track with Nas,Even Fifty.Or Like jay would even thinK about doing a record with a lesser Mc like him. Jim Jones is gett'in it but lyrcialy he's wack period