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It's Official ,Jay-Z To Appear On Tha Carter III

by THEPREMIER

MONDAY FEBRUARY 25, 2008

When rapper Lil Wayne appeared on a track from Jay-Z's latest effort, American Gangster, something obviously clicked.

The Brooklyn rapper is now slated to make an appearance on Tha Carter III, Weezy's sixth album.

The 25 year old rapper explains that his frequent creation of new music is the main problem for the numerous delays on the album.

"I make it worse for Universal [Records]. I keep doing new songs every other day. I don't stop working, so I don't know when they gonna get that," Weezy tells MTV News.

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"Everything I do be better than the last, like 'Oh, this gotta make the album!'" Tha Carter III is set for an April release date, boasting production from vets such as Kanye West, Alchemist, Cool & Dre, and Just Blaze, among others.

The promotion for the album is set to kick off with the first single, entitled 'A Millie'.

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gmg86

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— 4 months ago

i just hope it's gonna be out in April. shit's gonna be fire. fuck what ya heard!

and the article says Wayne is 23. i didn't know it was possible to get younger...lol

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raiseup

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raiseup
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— 4 months ago

yea lol i think hes 25 right? something like that, anyway it is pretty good that he is releasing his 6 album at just 23-26(?) years old, but remember not one of those albums can fuck with illmatic released by a 20 year old... amiright?

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Wiz10l

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Wiz10l
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— 4 months ago

Well shit...the album SHOULD be fire... I mean it's only taking him a fuckin' decade to release it.

Shit, imagine if NAS or Jay waited forever to release albums...all of their shit would be sounding like greatest hits/best of cd's.

Fuck it...just release the album....

~Be Eazy!

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Scoop208

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Scoop208
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— 4 months ago

patience is a virtue
nuggaz

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Scoop208

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Scoop208
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— 4 months ago

but they change the first single like every day wtf lol just staying staying wut the first single is gonna be until we see the video

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757representa

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757representa
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— 4 months ago

actually wiz, it was writtencame out over two years after illmatic. just that you guys mention weezy in the same breath as legends like Nas and Jay confirms his own legacy.

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N.O.504

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N.O.504
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— 4 months ago

^^^^
i here that

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ScRiLLsTaR

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ScRiLLsTaR
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— 4 months ago

the article says hes 35 u dumbass.... get yo glasses

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ScRiLLsTaR

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ScRiLLsTaR
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— 4 months ago

shit i meant 25 now im the dumbass

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ScRiLLsTaR

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ScRiLLsTaR
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— 4 months ago

shit i meant 25 now im the dumbass

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N.O.504

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N.O.504
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— 4 months ago

^^^^^
lmao

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badnewzV.A.

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badnewzV.A.
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— 4 months ago

mayne it say 25..u trippn...all tha hot niggaz waz born n 1982 n the industry,research research niggaz....cass..juelz..wayne..banks...many more

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king72331

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king72331
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— 4 months ago

WTF Wiz??? A decade??? It's barely been over 2 years my nigga. For a lot of niggas this is the norm, dude made a good point about Nas talking about the same amount of time with his.

You just want it so bad that it feels like a decade, lol.

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nabahood69

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nabahood69
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— 4 months ago

I'll be glad when the album is on shelves and all the fuckin hype is over. We'll see if the wait was worth it in April I guess.

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CypressDS

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CypressDS
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— 4 months ago

what ever happened to that blood brothers mixtape with him and game?

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EAzyy

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EAzyy
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— 4 months ago

album is gonna be wack i got my money on that 4 a fact

shit if he dnt make anything like the carter I and II, i will just feel sorry for all the dickriding fans and true fans who anticipated his bullshit

just listen to the nigga material lately and you will just hear his latest bullshit 4 youselves....if an artist claims 2 be great he should at least spit fire on 85% of his music, fuck all that 'weezy is saving his lyrics for the album'

jay-z will obviously kill the track that he features on

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Bklyn24

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Bklyn24
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— 4 months ago

Wayne said "Everything I do be better than the last, like 'Oh, this gotta make the album".... The last few songs I heard of Wayne was completely garbage...Im not hating im just giving my opinion..Wayne has mad potential and I love some of his stuff but right now hes average.

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mkparker1988

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mkparker1988
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— 4 months ago

well no shit, he aint worried about random mixtapes, hes workin on the album and dedication 3, any songs comin out now are complete throwouts. shit, only decent one was Im the truth with juliany. just stoked to hear hes actully working on the album tho, hopefully itll be fire, and on time, doubt that one tho.

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gethip313

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gethip313
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— 4 months ago

Real MCs dont make "throw outs"

Its fucked up when a nigga says "only decent one" when refering to an artist he actually likes.

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southwest09

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southwest09
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— 4 months ago

the shit you heard aint make da album or its dat BAG shit

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king72331

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king72331
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— 4 months ago

Gethip wtfru talking about. Real rappers dont make throwaways??? He's making songs every other day, come on man. The nigga just loves making music, everything ain't gonna be a hit.

As far as yall saying the last few songs yall heard from him have been wack, those were features, the jaunt with Wacko, the one with flo-rida, all tha other recent shit was features. The last music I heard from Wayne, that was his own was Da Drought is Over 4 & it was good.

Bad analysis by you gethip, bad analysis.

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N.O.504

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N.O.504
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— 4 months ago

^^^^^^
rite all that shit he has been doing is for his pockects
he's making money doing features
and saving the real shit 4r the album

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nabahood69

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nabahood69
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— 4 months ago

All the new shit with him singin and soundin like T-Pain should most def be throwaways. I hope he spit that real shit that got him where he is today. Just hope all the drugs he on aint fried his brain.

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gethip313

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gethip313
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— 4 months ago

Niggas shouldnt intentionally make half assed songs G.

No excuse for it.

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king72331

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king72331
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— 4 months ago

What songs were kinda garbage outside of the Wacko track.

Wayne's verse on the Florida jaunt was cool as hell. The Mary J joint was good, Mario joint was good, Speedin Remix & Dey Know Remix were both good.

Name all of these trash songs he's been putting out lately. Im listening...

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gethip313

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gethip313
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— 4 months ago

I shall not name them.
I have better things to do.
He been slacking G.
You know he has.

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abcdefghijk

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abcdefghijk
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— 4 months ago

Wayne has been puttin out straight garbage.
Jay Z will absolutely smash Wayne on that song on carter 3 like he did on Hello Brooklyn.

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tone8834

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tone8834
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— 4 months ago

and then it will be april and the carter 3 will be released fall 08 i dont see the album coming out anytime soon now that he has these legal issues and if its slated to hit shelves april then his single should be out now and a video should be out anyday now so...... hope it can top carter 2 doubted tho those leaked records could not fuck with carter 2 material lyrically at all

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demarcus

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demarcus
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— 4 months ago

it would be interesting to see that rumored g-unit album go up against this long-awaited wayne album. That would give hip-hop sumthin to talk about for a while, kinda like 50 vs. kanye last year.

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king72331

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king72331
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You forgot Nas was dropping in april too. I see Nas getting pushed back before Wayne.

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brnigga225

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brnigga225
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— 4 months ago

man dont even compare the carter 3 to the gunit album!

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Jarrard.

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Jarrard.
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— 4 months ago

yea u right, cuz g unit blows this pos out the blow hole. have heard wayne's latest songs??

"tom cruisy"

LAAAAAME and CORNY. not to mention the verse was complete trash.

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gethip313

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gethip313
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Thats a cold ass line-up of producers.....
Wasting their beat making talent on little gayne.

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king72331

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king72331
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— 4 months ago

And you just wasted a comment

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N.O.504

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N.O.504
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— 4 months ago

haha u did HATER

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keepitrelevant

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keepitrelevant
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— 4 months ago

lil wayne spits nigga. cmon. respect given when respect deserved.

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gethip313

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gethip313
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— 4 months ago

Ok Ok that one was a little harsh.

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JohnVice

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JohnVice
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— 4 months ago

Just drop the shit allready...
good look by Jay to come back and destroy a track wit wayne...
but for real...what do ya'll think bout that track on A.G...
2.0 was aight...
hope the 'new' ish is better---
who knows...by the time The Carter 3 comes out- the track will have been recorded for maybe one to two years in the past

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gethip313

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gethip313
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— 4 months ago

When 10 of your last 20 songs have dissapointed even your core fanbase its not a good idea to release an album.

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king72331

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king72331
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— 4 months ago

10 of his last 20 songs were off da drought is over 4, and I definitely wasn't disappointed. Your talking about features dumbass. I dont give a fuck about features, I wanna hear Wayne on a track by himself, not a song featuring lil wayne, smh. You just keep messing up dont you.

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ScRiLLsTaR

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ScRiLLsTaR
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— 4 months ago

yea he definetely wasnt dissapointing... Do you enjoy bein a hater GetHip?? U mad cuz u cant get right... step ur game up u sorry nigga

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N.O.504

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N.O.504
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— 4 months ago

that boy been a hater
he only dislikes songs and articles about lil wayne
give respect where respect is due

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n-word please

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n-word please
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— 4 months ago

Gethip dont know shit!!!

LMAO!!!

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n-word please

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n-word please
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— 4 months ago

Fuck da article im not even payin attention to dat!!

I just wanted say Fuck Gethip

He such a faggot!!!! Lmao

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n-word please

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n-word please
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— 4 months ago

Fuck da article im not even payin attention to dat!!

I just wanted say Fuck Gethip

He such a faggot!!!! Lmao

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gethip313

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gethip313
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— 4 months ago

^^^ You niggas are so funny.

You know god-damn well I speak the truth.

n-word- you sad nigga. I aint even gonna respond to you anymore.

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thats that shit

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thats that shit
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— 4 months ago

NWORD PLEASE U SOUND LIKE A HOMO/LOSER FA REAL DUDE

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n-word please

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n-word please
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— 4 months ago

Thank U

Dats All I wanted from da start

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sthamogul

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sthamogul
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— 4 months ago

In my opinion you can make a classic album with some of the tracks released on the mixtapes that came out in 07.

I have a feeling that the album will do well because of the hype and anticipation BUT i think that its going to be a dissapointment due to him using that TY-Wayne effect on his recent tracks and I don't think he's in a good mindset of recording music right now.
I think he peaked and is coming back down to earth right now.

Time to give Gillie a call...lol

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king72331

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king72331
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I wanna hear that Jay-Z track so fucking bad. I know them niggas was going at it, I think that shit will be an instant classic if it has a good enough concept, because as we all know, Wayne shine's when he's on a track with a real lyrical nigga (Barry Bonds, Hollywood Divorce (Andre 3k)).

If he did the lead single with Jay, that woulda really boosted his sales more than the big number's he'll already be doing.

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Wiz10l

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Wiz10l
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— 4 months ago

I listened 2 Barry Bonds like 30 times with different people. His verse was not better than Kanye's shit. PERIOD!

His shit on Hello Brooklyn wasn't even fire.

So as far as him shining when he's FEATURED with Great Lyricists... he doesn't! He folds for the most part.

Also, you keep saying that his recent garbage ass songs don't count because they're "features".

That doesn't make sense homie. If he's calling himself the greatest...he's supposed to shine on everything. Whether it's his song or someone else's. ESPECIALLY if they paid him for it!

Look...Wayne definitely has some hott shit... but LATELY....

His shit's been sounding garbage!

I don't know if it's because he's working too much and too hard. Or if he's just burned his self out lyrically.

But if he's tired...then he needs to slow down and focus on just getting his album completed.
He's NOT obligated to put out mixtape after mixtape...
He HAS a DEAL and BUZZ already.

If he's gonna keep putting out all of this material...then he needs to keep it hott... if not... he just needs to stop!

All he's doin' is fuckin' up what's left of his fucked up rep with this bullshit.

That's real talk!

~Be Eazy!

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king72331

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king72331
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— 4 months ago

Im not saying the features dont count. Im just not going to say he's lyrically burnt out just because of some recent features weren't the best we've heard from him.

When I listen to Lil Wayne features, the good outweigh the bad by a long shot my nigga. Listen to Da Drought Is Over 4 and tell me you think he's burnt the fuck out, hell no.

And even Jay said you can't try to put them up against each other with hello brooklyn, because wayne wasn't really rapping on there, and he didn't do a verse after he gave the song to Jay. They weren't going at it at all homie.

Oh yeah, I've said plenty of times that Kanye killed Barry Bonds harder than Wayne. I love that fucking song, just finished listening to Fab rapping over tha beat on his Gangsta Grillz. Very hot track btw. Wayne said he did his verse before he heard Ye's & when he heard Ye's he said he wanted to do another one. He did but they left the original verse out there. He then admitted that Ye's verse was hotter than his on the version we hear.

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Street_Don 08

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Street_Don 08
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— 4 months ago

Wiz101, ur right, wayne doesnt outshine lyricist, but not hating kanye aint lyrical, he creative but i cosign ur shit with the exception of that line....1

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DaGod

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DaGod
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— 4 months ago

I gotta roll wit my nigga Wiz on this topic. Wayne does fold against great lyricists. Latest example was him gettin outhshined be "old ass" Nas who just sonned the "hip-hop savior" Weezy on that Rich Boy song. But I am looking forward to that song wit Jay. Weezy definatly needs to come correct on that.

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gethip313

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gethip313
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— 4 months ago

Good shit wiz. You pretty much summed it all up. Niggas can argue all they want but its fuckin true, his last few tracks (wether guests or not...king) have fuckin sucked and even his fans dissed them.

And co-sign DaGod. Nas made wayne look amatuer on that collabo and wayne even came hard and still couldnt match.

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king72331

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king72331
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— 4 months ago

I started thinking when I logged in, and this really doesn't make sense to me.

Gethip yall niggas were hating when the features were hot ass hell, Wiz yall hated on Da Drought 3, I know you niggas didn't even listen to Da Drought Is Over 4, so it shoulda been obvious when the features weren't great yall would still hate.

How are yall saying he fell of, when he was spitting the hot shit yall were saying that it was wack too??? Wtf is up with that? So did yall really like the shit & just said it was wack because yall hate the lil nigga?

I ain't calling yall haters like that, but c'mon man. If the nigga just put out 5 straight hot ass features, yall would call him wack.

I like some of the recent features a whole lot, the Mary J feature, Mario (Cryin Out), They Know (Remix), Speedin (Remix). Those where just as good as all the old features.

So outside of the feature's with Wacko & Flo-Rida, wtf was wack?? Tell me DaGod, Gethip, Wiz. I wanna know.

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gethip313

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gethip313
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— 4 months ago

I dont know his catalog by heart king or I would fosho tell you.
I liked a few of his collabos of recent... The rich boy one was nice, he came correct on that. The rest were kinda boring and/or whack as fuck. Im sure there are a few that aint so bad but I cant remember em off the top of the dome right now.
Once again. Me holding contempt for a nigga who fakes the funk dont make me a hater. Even then, if he brings his good lyrics to the table I give him his props.
I got nothing against wayne music.
But if he says something stupid or does something stupid (which he often does) Im gonna check off on him when I comment on him. I know you be in the other sections so you know I dont discriminate on these niggas. I will aim jokes at any rapper bar none. Its just a website pimpin and I love crackin on these niggas. If I can make a nigga mad by talkin about his favorite rapper than thats even better. For niggas to take these rap niggas so serious is fuckin hilarious to me. What they should take serious is the effect that these niggas music has on children- not the fact that Im sittin a thousand miles away callin lil wayne a fuckin clown.

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abcdefghijk

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abcdefghijk
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— 4 months ago

How Do you know what kind of numbers he'll be doing?
And Kanye killed Wayne on that Barry Bonds track!

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dictionary

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dictionary
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— 4 months ago

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

bitches just go cop the carter 3

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PuffinLs

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PuffinLs
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— 4 months ago

King is on weezy's nuts, your defending him like your boys, lol funny little stan you are

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DrE-BoY Da DuDe

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DrE-BoY Da DuDe
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— 4 months ago

ion kno dude da g-unit last album was pretty nice and it sold. none of wayne's albums never did no big sellin. i aint sold on wayne jus yet. he still got work. im waitin for somebody to top illmatic still da best rap album ever if wayne ever do better den dat den ill prolly be sold on him

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ScRiLLsTaR

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ScRiLLsTaR
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— 4 months ago

what u talkin bout he c2 went platinum

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NYUT

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NYUT
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— 4 months ago

Wayne has THREE platinum albums, not including Guerilla Warfare from the Hot Boys

what are you talkin bout...

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king72331

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king72331
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— 4 months ago

I defend the south as a whole like this my nigga. That's just how I am. I live southern hip hop, so therefore, I'm on the nuts of southern hip hop, not any particular artist, just southern hip hop.

If you gon call me a stan, call me a stan of southern hip hop as a whole (if that make's sense lol).

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gethip313

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gethip313
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— 4 months ago

This nigga does ride for the whole south. I can vouch that. But he still a wayne stan.
HAHAHAHHAHAHA!!! just fuckin with ya negro.

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212SupaGangsta

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212SupaGangsta
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— 4 months ago

man MOST south rappers SUCK....with the exception od LUDA, T.I., BUN B, JEEZY, N ROSS

Scarface is a LEGEND so we already know watz up w/ him

da EAST is where da lyrics are at
KISS
STYLES
SHEEK
JIGGA
NAS
MILLZ
PAP
CASS
BEANZ
FAB
ETC...i could go 4 dayz..na years my nigga

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king72331

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king72331
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— 4 months ago

Ummmm....Yeah???

So who the fuck are you again???

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dictionary

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dictionary
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— 4 months ago

now yall can shut the fuck up

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DrE-BoY Da DuDe

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DrE-BoY Da DuDe
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— 4 months ago

new york hip hop was better back in da day dey slippin now

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king72331

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king72331
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— 4 months ago

The most random comment I've ever seen, but Im going to give my opinion anyway.

I think the reason their struggling is because the hottest niggas in the city are the same niggas that were the hottest over 10-12 years ago. Jay, Nas, Rakim, Busta, etc.

Now Nas' saying HHID, well it's partially his fault yall's shit is dying because instead of taking a young prodige under his wing, he was beefing with Jay-Z. He shoulda been molding a young artist or two, because he should know whatever, or whoever, he touches, his millions of fans will support.

At least Jay did try to mold some young niggas, and they're still kinda relevant too. I've never heard Jay talking down on the hip hop in the media and shit. That's why him and Rakim get all of my respect.

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DaGod

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DaGod
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— 4 months ago

Nah nigga, those dudes still going strong is an example of longevity. Rakim been doing it since the mid 80s. If he manages to still make him self relevant he needs to get propped for that.

Yall niggas act like the east coast got 4 artists. SMH

East Coast artists who would shit on southern artists:
Beans, Jada, Styles, Fab, Cassidy, Joel Ortiz, Papoose, Freeway, Young Chris, Joe Budden, Prodigy, Lloyd Banks.....

Also 50 Cent is an east coast nigga, he can pound for pound sell and make more hits than any southern artist you can name.

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gethip313

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gethip313
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— 4 months ago

The Giants play in new york.

Forbes.

1-2-3.

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birdman05

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birdman05
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— 4 months ago

just drop the gotdam album!

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Texas Raised

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Texas Raised
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— 4 months ago

I think I might go pick that up when it comes out

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Detroit_313

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Detroit_313
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— 4 months ago

damn nas dropped illmatic at 20!!!! damn i gotta step my game up

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S.L.E.E.P.

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S.L.E.E.P.
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— 4 months ago

he dropped it at 20, but he peaked at 20 too. he's made good albums since, but none nowhere near as great as illmatic

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N.O.504

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N.O.504
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— 4 months ago

U COMPARING HIM TO AN ALBUM THAT FAVS THE EASTCOAST
WE ALL KNOW THIS WEBSITE IS MAINLY EASTCOAST

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gethip313

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gethip313
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— 4 months ago

It was written was just as good as illmatic.
Stillmatic was a monster.

Its funny when niggas use the word peek and dont really know what that sounds like when you talkin about a nigga whos set the bar not once but twice.

No MC has influenced more niggas than Nas.

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Brandon C.

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Brandon C.
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— 4 months ago

how u goin have a mav's jersey on ur sig when u from The D? I'm a get u a Billups jersey

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Sarge

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Sarge
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— 4 months ago

Ok, someone help me understand. Normally when Weezy's name is mentioned on this site, the hate just rolls but now he has Jay Z the god of NY he is getting a free pass? (on this site at least)

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Drew O.G.

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Drew O.G.
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— 4 months ago

The producers sound real heavy on there. If his lyrics is tight with those tracks, could be as good or better than Carter II.

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757representa

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757representa
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— 4 months ago

No one mentioned the fact that the Carter III and NIGGER are both set to release in April. Might not be quite as big as Graduation/Curtis but the music will be as good, if not better. Graduation was great but Curtis was a real let down. Hopefully these two heavyweights will deliver.

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N.O.504