I know this might be common sense, but Eminem is clearly not a nigga. Hes white. Carry On now

Nas and jay are the best rappers alive.

Nah .. eminem is the best rapper alive n one of the best if not the best of all time

em is in my top 15...........but too many people are quick to say he's the greatest............what about nas,jay,rakim,kool g,L,krs,pac,b.i.g,gza,raekwon..........list goes on

KRS?!?! hahahahha neeeeever, u slippin son

biggie cant be the greatest ever because his career was short lived, pac cant be the greatest ever because his career was also short lived, same for Big L, and Big Pun...

^all legendary rappers, eminem can make a strong argument of being among the elite... krs-1 is top 10 but barely, rakim has to be up there, Kool G, Kane, nas, jay, jadakiss, being a huge wu fan ive always liked meth better than the chef, and i like gza the best... its to tough to make a list honestly...

nas an jay vs pac and biggie hahahahahahahahahahahaha
niggaz on this website must be like 12 years old 2 say pac aint the greatest listen 2 any of his songs he raps straight from the gut when he speaks he screams he was killin nas an jayz in his short time at the top

perhaps you're fuckin right

in your sight .money is important than healthy ,but l don't think so .money could earn every time but health couldn't

lmao.........the forums are down........we got to finish it here.

yous a fuckin fool for sayin that shit

true dat

Would he have sold, yes. Anybody can sell some records.Would he have sold as much, no where near as much.Eminem being white was the biggest factor in the sells of his records, not his music.If you think otherwise, you're a fucking moron.Eminem attracted the white youth who didn't care nor knew anything about hip hop, but gravitated to it because they couldn't fit in the other scenes(Metal,Country,Pop,etc)and saw a white guy doing it so they jump in.Eminem built his fanbase attacking pop artist, which brought in more casual fans then his actual music, making the "The Marshall Mathers LP" his highest selling album.What Eminem did with the "The Marshall Mathers", no black rapper could ever have done.Imagine the outrage if a Nas made a song talking about Christina Aguilera fucking everyone and giving him venereal disease.The shit just couldn't go down, and that was Eminem's bread and butter.Many of those fans remain loyal buyer when "The Eminem Show " dropped, but after they didn't get what they wanted with "The Eminem Show ' (more pop icon dissing and catchy songs), many of them didn't stick around for the terrible "Encore",resulting in him losing nearly half in sells for the album.

"It has also sold an estimated over 11 million copies worldwide to date"

lol too bad encore still sold more than pretty much anyone elses album...

-Cokesign -619 hoodstar
I thik em is one of the best that ever did it. But jus cuz the dude is white u say he wouldnt have sold as much? a lot of people could relate to wat he talkin bout man. umm here's an example: jimi hendrix was one the most succesful and recognized rocker ever, are u sayin that if he was white it would been otherwise? its really skills that seperate u from everbody else not colour.

Thanks you FlameEffex, you proved my point...fucking idiot.And Leatherface, your comparison makes no sense.If you are trying to say what I think you are, I would easily destroy your entire position with simple logic and facts.

No one is saying Eminem is trash, but what we are saying is he sells as much as he does base on his race.That terrible "Encore" worldwide sells are proof of that.He lost a half of his fans(Buyers)in America because the novelty of being white disappear, an he actually had to deliver more then what the wigger youth wanted.The casual fans wanted more then just,I'm a white rapper, buy my record.He didn't deliver,so they didn't buy.The worldwide casual fans stayed, mainly because the novelty of the white rapper hasn't wore off with them.

u know what, i think for the first time, somebody made me change my opinion on a topic. I have to agree dre encore was terrible and it still sold a lot. I was going to counter argue wit paul wall and lil whyte selling little even though they white, but em is first white dude that could actually spit real lyrics and i think that is the main reason he's doin those numbers these white people will buy anything he releases no matter how terrible.

"em is first white dude that could actually spit real lyrics and i think that is the main reason he's doin those numbers these white people will buy anything he releases no matter how terrible"

My point exactly.Paul Wall and Lil Wyte are completely trash, but Paul Wall first album did go gold.Eminems can spit, that is a fact.That what separates him from other white rappers, but the fact that he can spit is not the main factor in his sells.If you remember the days when TRL(MTV Show) dominated the music video world, you would see kids saying things like "Eminem's great", "Eminem the Best" and the only songs they could bring up when ask what are their favorite Eminem song was his singles.In my opinion, his albums are hit or miss."The Slim Shady Lp" wasn't a great album,but he had alot of funny and clever songs on it which over shadowed alot of it's flaws."The Marshall Mathers Lp" is a bonafide classic,there is no need to explain that."The Eminem Show" was ok,it had many elements I didn't like and "Encore" was just trash.If Eminem music was the main factor in his sells, there is no way "Encore" would have sold as much as it did.With all that said, he's still a lyrical monster and one of the greatest rapper that have touch the mic, but with only four albums,and "Encore" being one of them I can not call him the best.

Gald to see I got my point across.

sigh.........when you say that your disrespecting the real legends.......rakim.......notorious.............nas......jay....

cuz a lot of people dont look at it that way, they must think that one is better then the other. any way back to the subject em is top 5 material.

u obviously dont live in N.America

then u would know there is a big difference.

Yes, "Enocre" is "Beastly" and "Insame".

Rainman-I don't even have to explain this one,if you don't think so you're a fucking idiot.

Mosh-Poor contrived attempt at a political statement.The beat and the chorus was wack, and the lyrics come off as a cheap water down version of what many of the rock groups were doing at the time.

Like Toy Soldiers-Bad chorus, poor beat and Em forgot you actually have to flow on a song(not just talk).

Mockingbird-Piss poor version of a child's lullaby, $300.Talking instead of rhyming,$400.Making the worst version of a song titled "Mockingbird",priceless.

And those are some of the highlights.

naw cant agree eminem one of my favs but encore was his worst shyt and he had sum ridiculous ass songs on there it wasnt a front 2 back banger and some songs he was jus sayin shyt that rhymed that made no sense

thats usally his specialty but he kind of dropped the ball on encore alright album for the most part def not his best

ok wat about the shitty songs like "my 1st single","big weenie"(the beat was mean tho!),"just lose it","puke" he had as many bad songs as he did good

true dat been listening to him 4 years and this is def his worst album which isnt all bad the album has its moments but as far as tht shit we like to hear from em naw this cd dont do it.....thts my dude tho...Deeeeeeetroit

"if u don't like mosh ur just probably slow and can't understand the meaning behind it and why it was dumbed down for a reason, he even saying it in the song listen again"

This alone proves your stupidity.Just like any pseudo intellectual wannabes, you used the old "if u don't like mosh ur just probably slow and can't understand" it routine.Read carefully you brainless walking eminem cockriding zombie,"Poor contrived attempt at a political statement".If I didn't understand it, I couldn't have come up with that opinion.

I'm not going to argue with you why "Encore" is trash, you obviously wake up with an Eminem poster over your bed and stain sheets from the wet dreams you have about him every night.I'm assuming you are one of the leaders of the wigga youth movement, so I can understand your blind devotion.

P.S.
Trying to argue "Rainman" is a good song is priceless comedy.Keep up the good work.

Again you show your stupidity, guess you are making this a trend.It's not about knowing more then Dr.Dre or Eminem, it's about knowing trash music when I hear it.Just because someone is consider a legend, doesn't mean they can do no wrong.You have a hard time understanding that fact because you are too busy sticking an Shady/Aftermath dildo up your ass.

oh wow i spelt one word wrong - unlike ur pathetic ass i don't sit there putting all my brain power on a website esp when i'm arguing with a little tempermental bitch

all i'm saying is that u are talking out of ur ass claiming u know more then two legends, admit it or shut up, don't deny shit like a woman, it just sounds pathetic

What, you think I'm on the internet 24/7.Sorry to disappoint you, but I have a job you cocksucker.You wouldn't know anything about that, because all you do is sit in your moms basement jerking off to Eminems videos and practicing spitting your wack ass rhymes for the day you finally get to meet your idol.

great rebuttle to my argument, sounds like i pissed u off a bit cuz now u know ur wrong, and please respond unless u actually direct it at what i said, bitch. oh u have a job, wow that's great u probably flip burgers or work in a clothing store, good luck with ur career, FAAAAAAAAAAAAAG

What argument you cocksucker? All you said was Eminem a rapper, so he should know more about rap then the customers. And I don't "flip burgers or work in a clothing store", but both of those jobs are better then your mothers selling her pussy to obese truckers.

I don't know why I'm wasting my time with you, you have a hard time spelling simple words, how can I expect you to be anything more then a 6th grade drop out behind a comp.Good luck with your search for Eminem's father.Maybe after you suck out some of his semen, you will finally get that connection to Eminem you always wanted.

P.S. The word is rebuttal, not "rebuttle".

oh wow i spelt one word wrong - unlike ur pathetic ass i don't sit there putting all my brain power on a website esp when i'm arguing with a little tempermental bitch

all i'm saying is that u are talking out of ur ass claiming u know more then two legends, admit it or shut up, don't deny shit like a woman, it just sounds pathetic

what i siad is enimum