During a recent interview, John Legend, who has been working with Kanye West on his new album, broke some pretty interesting news, as he revealed that Kanye really doesn’t make beats anymore.

As John Legend chopped it up with Power 105.1’s The Breakfast Club, he says that Kanye West “really doesn’t make beats anymore,” and it’s been this way for a few years now.

Legend said that Ye orchestrates production as he suggests beats to write to while having young/up and coming producers come through the studio.

He added that Kanye curates songs, helps with song selection, and writes songs while helping put albums together.

Watch John Legends interview with The Breakfast Club, and head to the 4:05 mark in the clip as he speaks on Kanye not really making beats anymore: