Jay-Z sits down with MTV News after his press conference at the Carnegie Hall and speaks on J.Cole’s Best New Artist Grammy nomination. Hov says even if Cole wins or not, he still is the best new artist.

“I think it’s great for him, because I’m sure it’s a dream of his. We grew up seeing Michael Jackson, and I’m sure he grew up seeing whatever moment stuck in his mind, so I know it’s great for him to do that. I think he’s already won Best New Artist, to me. His journey is what I’m really excited about”

Watch Jay-Z’s interview with MTV news below: