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War of the Words… 50 vs Cam

by LINQUEMUSIC

MONDAY FEBRUARY 12, 2007



With the deaths of Biggie and Pac, I can’t help to get nervous when these dudes start wildin’ out. That beef caused us to lose two of Hip Hop’s Most prolific lyricist and left Hip Hop hanging for quite some time afterwards. I think New York Emcees are still recuperating from that one. Not to mention the fact that their deaths are still, to this day, a complete mystery.

I’m hoping that the beef between Cam and 50 just “Stays Lyrical.” Perhaps there’s something to learn about Nas and Jay-Z. They spoke their words and kept it moving. Thank God history didn’t repeat itself with those two. When that popped off, it brought out the best in the both of them. Jay and Nas were holdin’ down New York and because they didn’t take it there, it strengthened Hip Hop across the globe.

It seems like “Beef” is just an inevitable part of Hip Hop these days. Maybe it has always been that way. From BDP and Juice Crew, Benzino and Eminem, to 50 and Game… maybe Beef is just one of Hip Hop’s necessary evils. I’m even wondering if the fans take it more seriously than the actual artists involved. Is it good for record sales? Is it all about publicity? Are there things going on that we, as outsiders, don’t even know about… I’m sure!

When I was coming up, many people felt that one of the biggest reasons for the tension in our neighborhoods had to do with the economic strife that was so very prevalent in our community. Today, I guess that’s not the case. Often these people starting “Word Wars” have money… maybe it’s not as much as they’d like it to be, but they got money. Hold It Down Boys… Hold it Down!

-Written by LIN QUE. LIN QUE is one of Hip Hop’s Pioneers. You might remember her as ISIS when she was down with X Clan and The Blackwatch Movement. For more information on LIN QUE or her music, you can check out her MySpace at www.myspace.com/linquemusic
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radamez

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— about 1 year ago

Good shit right there, Lin Que! I don't think it will go there between Cam and 50. Pac and Big was something I still don't understand to this day. Will something like that happen again? It's very possible in the climate we live in.

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Joey Crack

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Joey Crack
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— about 1 year ago

what up Rad...I dont think it'll spill over to the streets, when Biggie and Pac were beefin with each other we had niggas on 2 coasts ready to kill each other, I think that beef was hyped up by the media because of the scope of who was involved....with 50, niggas expect him to beef so any beef hes involved with niggas is like, ohh again?? It'll stay on wax, I dont think we could afford to lose anybody else over silly shit, ya feel me?

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chi-townlord

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chi-townlord
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— about 1 year ago

aint nobody definatley gon die from this beef. They both bigger than that 50 aint gon kill cam and cam aint gon kill 50. 50just tryna end that nigga career and cam just tryna clown this nigga cam on probation anyway lol

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radamez

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radamez
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— about 1 year ago

J Crack - i agree with you my dude!

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DrFabulous

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DrFabulous
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Joey Crack

You mention some good points my dude, and I pray it stays on wax...Even tho Cam not vital to Hip Hop I dont wish nothing bad to any of dem dudes, but saying dumb stuff out they mouths could get their career ended you know!

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MJofthaMic

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MJofthaMic
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— about 1 year ago

You dont have to worry about Cam killin anybody. TRUST ME.

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Notorious

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Notorious
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— about 1 year ago

you guys have put way too much into this beef and there has only been one round exchanged. it seems like with every new beef coming up in hip hop people (mainly the sources that provide people the information like dj's, site jouranlists, etc.) hype it up to get bigger and at same time relate the beef to big and pac hoping it doesnt escalate to that extreme. this beef just started and there definetly too much put into it. im in a psychology class and it does prove true according to Freud's theories that humans do 100% possess the death instinct. seems like alot of people have the agressive combination that wants to ultimately see the beefs escalate into violence. just let the shit rock and stop reading into it so much.

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StopNetBanging

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StopNetBanging
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— about 1 year ago

"You dont have to worry about Cam killin anybody. TRUST ME."

LoL Fuck Up.You Never Know Though.

But When People Say Rappers Got Beef These Days I Dont Even Listen To Them.

I Just Go Listen To What's Beef - Notorious B.I.G

"What's beef? Beef is when you need two gats to go to sleep
Beef is when your moms ain't safe up in the streets
Beef is when I see you
Guaranteed to be an ICU, one more time
What's beef? Beef is when you make your enemies start your
Jeep
Beef is when you roll no less than thirty deep
Beef is when I see you
Guaranteed to be an ICU, check it

Thats Beef.Cam'Ron and 50 Cent Do Not Have Beef

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MJofthaMic

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MJofthaMic
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— about 1 year ago

Who said they want this beef to escalate into violence? Even if there was violence Cam aint gon be there. He too pretty for violence.

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MJofthaMic

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MJofthaMic
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— about 1 year ago

Comparin these LiL block wars to Big and Pac beef is a disgrace. That shit was on a whole different level. Please, this shit is just promotion for Cam cause Koch aint doing it for him. REAL TALK.

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StopNetBanging

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StopNetBanging
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— about 1 year ago

"Comparin these LiL block wars to Big and Pac beef is a disgrace. That shit was on a whole different level. Please, this shit is just promotion for Cam cause Koch aint doing it for him. REAL TALK."

Lets Just Not Put This On Cam Now.We Know 50 Known For Beefing With Alot Of People.

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MJofthaMic

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MJofthaMic
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— about 1 year ago

I think we can all agree that 50 is gonna sell regardless of beef or not. I didn't buy GRODT to hear the niggas diss Ja Rule. I can't say that about Cam though SNB. Cam needs all the promotion he can get rite about now.

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gp180

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gp180
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— about 1 year ago

tru but Cam started it really

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TalkofNJ

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TalkofNJ
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— about 1 year ago

yea the beef isnt going any further then wax they say the same thing everytime rappers get into a beef but im not sayin anything wont happen on the streets cause you just never know...i mean 50 snuffed ja in atlanta...you had the shootin at hot 97 with 50 and games people so you really never know if something might pop off cause both dudes have big egos but i dont think anybody will get killed...somebody correct me if im wrong but it seems to me people say they hope it stays on wax and make a bigger deal when 50 is involved cause the know his backround i dont remeber people sayin that about jay/cam

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MJofthaMic

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MJofthaMic
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— about 1 year ago

At the end of the day its all about hit records and 50 is gon have hits on a national scale while Cam is barley gon have local success. That's why Cam needs that beef shit more than 50. 50 is right Cam really can't compete wit that nigga. IM NOT THE BIGGEST 50 CENT FAN EITHER, IM JUS TYPIN WAT I FEEL IS THE TRUTH.

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StopNetBanging

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StopNetBanging
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— about 1 year ago

"I think we can all agree that 50 is gonna sell regardless of beef or not."

Yea I Actually Wanted To See His Numbers With Out Him Dissing Someone.But Cam Done Fuck That Up Lol.Shit He Probably Just Gave 50 Extra Numbers.But Yo You Right.IMO I Really Dont Think Beef Boost Ya Sales.Well Atleast Now These Days.

"Fuck That Beef Shit/That Shit Is Played Out"-Notorious Big

I Hate Rappers Beefing.Why Cant They Just Make Music And Keep It Moving.

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StopNetBanging

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StopNetBanging
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— about 1 year ago

TalkofNJ Nada Going To Happen.50 Cool With Jim Jones And Juelz So If Them Two See Eachother Nothing Going TO Happen.I Dont Know If He See Cam Though What Might Happen.

Cam Might Start Running ...........

LoL Nah Well Maybe LoL

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gp180

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gp180
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— about 1 year ago

because that would be the right thing 2 do StopNetBanging

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MJofthaMic

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MJofthaMic
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— about 1 year ago

Your right SNB look at Cam, he went at Jay and still only sold 300,000. It's not beef that moves units its hit records.

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gp180

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gp180
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— about 1 year ago

rappers right now dont really care about quality, they care about quantity....i think i spelled dat right....anyway as good as selling alot iz, it doesnt mean wut u make iz good muzik, all it means is u know how 2 market ur shit nd sell it in the right place, but im sure we can agree that 50 Cent makes muzik that we bump 2 all the tyme....sumtymes rappers dont even know how 2 market so....they start beefing as a way 2 get attention

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TalkofNJ

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TalkofNJ
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— about 1 year ago

come on SNB you cant say 50 started this that is just crazy...50 didnt ask cam to call up in the middle of the interview and start flippin out...it doesnt matter 50 dropped a diss track first if it wasnt for cams lil phone stunt we wouldnt be having this conversation..50 hasnt started a beef since jada and fat hoe...i dont really consider the shit with diddy a beef...seriouslywhy was there a need to video tape cams phone call unless you are later going to use that video for something later...when artists are at hot97 they get video tapped all the time just because they are there doing an interview but the public rarely gets the see them so when they found out cam had a video to the call i guess hot97 put out the vid of 50 in the studio

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StopNetBanging

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StopNetBanging
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— about 1 year ago

Man Anyone Can Be A Rapper These Days.Shit I Can.All I Gota Do Is Get A Beat With A Snapping Sound In The Background And Make Up A Dance.There Goes Ya Hit Record Right There.

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MJofthaMic

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MJofthaMic
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— about 1 year ago

Word ima make a hit it's called "Raman Noodle Soup".

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StopNetBanging

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StopNetBanging
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— about 1 year ago

Nah I Didnt Say 50 Started It.Trust Me I Know Cam Dumbass Started This.If Cam Was Smart He Would Of Spoke To 50 Like A Man.And Maybe People Would Of Atleast Gain Respect For Cam.Thats Some Good Publicity Right There.Look At How Styles P Talked To 50.But Shit No Wonder SP 1st Album Was Called A Gangster And A Gentelman.Cause Its True

LOL@Fat Hoe.

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StopNetBanging

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— about 1 year ago

Ima Make One Called Oreos MJ LMFAO

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MJofthaMic

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MJofthaMic
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— about 1 year ago

Raman noodle soup, Raman noodle soup, wit a little Henny on the side.

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StopNetBanging

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StopNetBanging
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— about 1 year ago

"Raman noodle soup, Raman noodle soup, wit a little Henny on the side."

LMFAO....Thats A Hit Right There Good Shit LMAO.

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MJofthaMic

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MJofthaMic
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— about 1 year ago

I gotta stop smokin and typin.

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Gorilla 4 Life

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Gorilla 4 Life
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— about 1 year ago

"You dont have to worry about Cam killin anybody. TRUST ME."

My bad niggaz but im laughing sooo damn hard.....this is sum funnyass shit my nigga

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TalkofNJ

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TalkofNJ
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— about 1 year ago

yea real talk SNB i got alot more respect for SP after that

MJ LMFAO at roman noodle soup...roast beef flavor thats my shit!...yo tru life said it best on his new mixtape in a song called "Get That Paper"

See the game aint the same every thing changed up
Fuck tryin to be lyrical the kid gave up
Killin my brain all day wrightin rhymes on the stoup
Turn an the radio all you hear is chicken noodle soup
If that is a hit shit i can get one too

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StopNetBanging

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— about 1 year ago

LMFAO I DOnt Know If Anyone Seen This But This Is A Video With JR Writer In A Club When Someone Starting Shooting

http://youtube.com/watch?v=L4496StZXSc

"The Reason Why Im Laughing Is Cause Listen to The Guy That Says Oh My God At like 34 Seconds."

Lmao LiL Bitch

But Even This Seem Like A Stunt.It Look Mad Fake.
And The Guy Who Shot Actually Was Responding To The Shots In The Juelz Santana Song That Was Playing In The Background.Well Thats My Opinion

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MJofthaMic

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MJofthaMic
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— about 1 year ago

That's some hot shit TalkofNJ.

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TalkofNJ

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TalkofNJ
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— about 1 year ago

yea yea MJ ive been listenin to that mixtape im feelin it more and more each time

lmao at the vid SNB...look at jrs face hes like " you got to bee kiddin me i know someone didnt just let off shots"

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MJofthaMic

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MJofthaMic
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— about 1 year ago

Jr was like shit i dropped out of prep school for this? JR gangsta though if shit pop off he a soilder he gon start throwin book bags.

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StopNetBanging

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StopNetBanging
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— about 1 year ago

LOL...

That Shit Look Mad Fake Though.

I Think Some Guy Just Let Off Shots To The Song.

JR Was Like What The Fuck ??
"Fuck I Miss High School"

LoL nah

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MJofthaMic

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MJofthaMic
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— about 1 year ago

Nigga is like "My Mom gon kill me if she find out im cuttin class".

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StopNetBanging

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StopNetBanging
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— about 1 year ago

"Nigga is like "My Mom gon kill me if she find out im cuttin class".

LMAO

Ayo Dont Think Ima Only Expose Dipset On Here.Did Yall SEe That Video With Hov And He Was With 2 Lesboz?

Hov Like "So This Wat Pussy Look Like" Lmao I Have That Video

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MJofthaMic

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MJofthaMic
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— about 1 year ago

Ayo im finna bounce my niggas. All the real niggas (J-Crack,SNB,TONJ,Gorilla,RAD,and a couple others) stay up. All the femine males (Dookie Pookie watev and Hyfee) choke on a dildo.

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StopNetBanging

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StopNetBanging
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— about 1 year ago

"Ayo im finna bounce my niggas. All the real niggas (J-Crack,SNB,TONJ,Gorilla,RAD,and a couple others) stay up. All the femine males (Dookie Pookie watev and Hyfee) choke on a dildo."

He Told Them Niggaz To Choke On A Dildo LOL.Anyway Peace Homie..1...

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TalkofNJ

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TalkofNJ
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— about 1 year ago

LMAO this shit is hilarious

jr is like i cant believe shit poppin off i got my #2 pencil stapped but wheres a sharpener when ya need one

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StopNetBanging

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StopNetBanging
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— about 1 year ago

Ayo Look At At The Jay-Z Video Here http://forums.defsounds.com/showthread.php?t=627

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Cory.P

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Cory.P
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— about 1 year ago

Whoever did that photoshop of Cam and 50 really Blows at it. That shits soo badly done , i think my lil 7 year old brother could honestly Do better. That shits 2 Thumbs Down

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BXBALLA
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— about 1 year ago

are you serious with this article? please knock it off

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WhoozThaBoss

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WhoozThaBoss
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— about 1 year ago

Why is it no matter what subject is discussed on this matter, it always turns to a Camron Bash Fest?

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nabizzle

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nabizzle
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— about 1 year ago

i reckon pac is still alive but if im rong then i now for a fact that suge knight got him killed check out this web this is a good one http://www.ewsonline.com/2pac/sugekill.html and www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=50582 - 125k -

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— about 1 year ago

Dont get it twisted 50 aint doing no violence shit and neither is CamRon.
I feel its out of the blue to say CamRon and 50 has that BEEF like Big and Pac had.
I mean it aint like that its just music and competive business thats all it is.
Either way 50 is doing his thing and CamRon is doing beats i think..

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— about 1 year ago

HAHA OH MY GOD? stop trippin' bitch u combinate 50cent and Cam'ron With big and pac? omg they 50 and cam is both snitches and they suck lyrical&flow. U cant cominate cam and 50 aginst pac and big haha B.I.G and 2Pac was much much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much muchmuch much much. FUCKIN better then If pac would be alive 2day 50 wouldnt be rappin prolly not cam tho.

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I'm trying to rap my head around the "Bitch" calling, but I'm just gonna let that go and register it as ignorance. Anyway, I'm not necessarily saying that it's the same thing. Any beef just reminds me of the deaths of two of our Greatest Emcees. It's one thing "rhyming" and it's another thing "loading clips in a video"... FEEL ME!!!!

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A. Curtis is NOT a rap mogul. He's had a "RUN", like AZ said. 50's run is based on making popular PARTY/RADIO songs. He's NEVER said anything that's made me want to press REWIND. Someone mentioned last week that he spit some ish on HEAT...and I'm like, "Wow." Then, I was proud of the guy who commented that 50 has never said anything other than ish we usually here from everyone. Thank you. I'll give him this, he is GREAT at making hooks (which sells records) AND SINGING. Ha, in the words of my man Jadakiss. He's on Em's team, who's a $ MACHINE. Oh yeah, AND, of course, HE GOT SHOT 9 TIMES. Jada: "You ain't get shot again, so what ya 2nd album about? (NOTHIN'!)" Nas: "..heinous crimes help record sales more than creative lines." Oh yeah, and they he had a VERY CATCHY PHRASE that everyone liked to say for about a year or two: G-G-G-GEEE UNITTTT!" i.e. Remember the Husband Swap Dave Chappelle episode where his "son" said it and he dropped him off in the hood and said, "G-G-G-Goodbyeeee!?" Ha. 50s run is very similar to the run that Nelly has had. Nelly has sold (I'm not sure of the exact figures) either as much or MORE than 50, so is Nelly a mogul? Is Nelly the best rapper 'cause his record sells are VICIOUS. A quote from Jay, "...the only other dudes movin' units is Em, Pimp Juice (Nelly), and us..." Now, Em is legitimately nasty, I'll give him that. But again, like I've said before and will say it forever, WHITE KIDS buy Hip-Hop albums. Period. They come in by the drones. Period. How do I know this? I used to work at Tower Records. When? Around the time N.O.R.E. dropped his album where you could choose either the thug or the businessman cover and Puff dropped his album No Way Out or the Family, whichever one he dropped in '98-99. Anyway, they were all pickin' the thug cover, lol. I just wanted to point that out.

B. I don't know what people were listening to but Cam's response is way better than 50's original, however, BOTH are funny!

C. What's the point of rap beef these days? Back in the '80s, rap beef meant that your career would end if you lost, i.e. LL Cool J vs. Kool Moe Dee. In the '90s, rap beef meant that ENTIRE coasts hated each other and lives were lost. Not to brag, but we all know it's true, i.e. Tupac vs. Notorious B.I.G. In the '00s, rap beef means, in my opinion, simply entertainment and maybe a sales boost.

For example, Nas' Ether DEBACLED Jay-Z's Takeover but nobody really paid a penalty. Jay's career is still going regularly, and for those of the MINUTE (sorry to insult intelligence, but for the GED's and 11 year olds, it's pronounced mi-noot) MINORITY who believed Jay won (wow), Nas' career is still going regularly. Jadakiss and Beanie went at it back in '00. I personally thought it was a tie, both of them said some hilariously funny stuff; neither career was really affected.

D. The 50 & Ja beef ain't end Ja's career, for the record. Murder Inc. went through they own little stint with federal allegations, lol, which were probably true but no one could prove it. However, 50 HAS BEEN SMASHED, and no one seems to mention this but I will say what all the 50 ass riders are afraid to, by: NAS, JAY-Z, JADAKISS (Damn Jada really did'eem dirty), FAT JOE, AZ, AND NOW, CAM'RON off the top of my head that I can think of. How is it that he still exists in the Hip Hop community as a "mogul"? Russell Simmons is a MOGUL. Shit, Puff is a MOGUL. 50 is NOT a mogul. 50 is ass. Yeah, he's won battles, but he's lost mad battles. Think of an average-to-good basketball player who never won the title, lol! KJ! Kevin Johnson was a quality role player for the Phoenix Suns. That's who I compare 50 to; no I take that back 'cause KJ was nasty. He's damn sure not a Sir Charles or a Karl Malone; they were LEGENDS who never won the big 1. But hey, BJ Armstrong and Avery Johnson won the big one, so maybe we can compare him to them, ha! So, if a rapper CAN'T seem to win the big one, how long are y'all continue 2 be on his dick? Seriously, like 50 is butt.

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— about 1 year ago

Charismatic, are you gay for Camron?

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yo charismatic whether you like it or not homie 50 is going down as a legend in rap and his career aint even over yet you u cant say taht about cam,fat joe, jada and az..50 did what took some rappers 10 years he did it in 3...whens the the last rapper that a buzz as crazy as 50 and g unit...there hasnt been one since 50...everything coming out right now is garbage its either catch phrases and corny ass dances with bubblegum beats i dont likest to 95% of the shit thats out right now...and say GGGGG G Unit is a catch phrase? nah homie that is nothing like yellin out baaalllin...and yes 50 is a MOGUL relook up the definition of a mogul dude has shoes/clothes/water/watches/books/movies and know he is tryin to do somethin with condoms. so what he makes radio songs to promote his album keeps it real on the mixtape shit...and how can you not say 50 ended ja's career thats just insane 50 exsposed him and the public saw it and turned thier back on him and how can you say jada smashed 50 and jada still aint BLOW...you go against the biggest name in rap and you STILL CANT BLOW..he has nothing to show for it..what maybe 2 diss tracks that made some noise thats it...im not sayin you gotta like 50 but you gotta respect his movement i think every rapper in the game wants to be in his position.

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if it isn't my old nemesis... faggot ass RandallA.... no credentials. no response. Actually, go back and read my comments in the 50 Lays Down the Law post from last week. Clearly, duke, you'll see that I said both are JV rappers. Well, Cam'll get a lil varsity burn but 50 is more like a special teams player. Now, get off my dick please. And, for the record, this is a new week, so... back 2 my credo of NOT responding to idiots without seeing some credentials.... 1.

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— about 1 year ago

another thing i noticed when is the last time anyone for NY fucked with dipset...is it just me or are all there features from the south...they been doing records with wayne/baby/ti/young dro/pitbull/paul wall/chris brown/ damn nobody from ny fuckin with them and i think its cuz they dudes arent realy in harlem like they say their in the south all the time chillin with dudes down there

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— about 1 year ago

Yo Charismatic is telling the truth. You couldn't of said any better brother.

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— about 1 year ago

...except for the mogul thing.. dude is selling everything he gets involved with.. but still good post..

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— about 1 year ago

"everything coming out right now is garbage its either catch phrases and corny ass dances with bubblegum beats i dont likest to 95% of the shit thats out right now..."

TalkofNJ, I feel you on that. It's what I've been sayin' all along. Jada BLEW dog. The hood has been and ALWAYS WILL love Jada. I think you missed some of the KEY concepts of what I was sayin' and you trynna defend this dude. "The biggest name in Hip Hop" I think not. You takin' it too far, duke.

For the record, EVERYBODY who responds to my comments seems to shy away from the Nelly comparisons, hahahahaha. 'Cause y'all know it's true, so how can y'all continue to defend 50? HE CANNOT RAP MAN. HE'S EVEN ADMITTED that Banks is the best lyricist on HIS OWN TEAM. And, there are people who think Buck is better, though, I feel like he's just a sidekick. But, back to the point, Jada hasn't sold millions of records because he DOESN'T appeal to the WHITE TEENAGE PUBLIC. PERIOD. WHITE KIDS BUY RECORDS DAMN IT. And now, the buy records off of ITUNES.

The now defunct g-unit shoe is DONE. Patrick Ewing, nah, I can't use him...umm, okay, Penny had shoes... is Penny an NBA mogul? Could've been, but he isn't. Every professional athlete has clothes, i.e. jerseys, so are they all moguls? Anybody can MARKET and be MARKET-ABLE. It doesn't make them a mogul. 50 is not a MOGUL. For the record, JADA is BY FAR, WAY nastier than 50. PERIOD. AND you're makin' it seem like I was praisin the g-unit catch phrase... I was makin a mockery of it. Feel the sarcasm, dude. And, ok, maybe he did end Ja's career, but who the fuck is Ja? Ja was a freshman team rapper anyway... not even on the JV, so who cares?

And, lastly, if you wanna talk about EXPOSED. 50 lives with cops, lol. OH YEAH, I 4GOT TO MENTION, even LIL KIM ripped 50 a new asshole on the NAKED TRUTH. She was str8 CLOWNING him all the way through it and THAT WAS A HARD ALBUM (minus maybe 3 tracks...now SAY IT WASN'T AND I QUIT!). She called 50 the "Hip Hop Cop". Mogul? Not!

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— about 1 year ago

1 more thing. You guys are MISTAKING a RUN for "MOGULITY", lol! A run means, you're hot for the moment so let's try to capitalize and squeeze every little ounce out of this 15 minutes of fame that we can.

"MOGULITY" means that you have been setting it "a blaze" for years and years and years, i.e. Russell Simmons & Def Jam: dozens of hot artists, tracks, albums, videos, clothing, sub-labels (i.e. Roc-a-Fella, Def Jam South), THE SHOE: THE ADIDAS SHELL TOP, television shows, etc.

50 Cent IS having a RUN. 50 Cent is NOT a mogul. Maybe, someday he will be.
Russell Simmons IS a MOGUL.

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Nj wuddup my dude, Yea I hear what you're saying and you made some good points but check it.. Ja's career being ended is a combination of a lot of things that we're all going to debate for a minute. When 50 was going at him it was a bad time for Ja period. He was oversaturated in the market, Murder inc. was in trouble and 50 (who I think won the Hip Hop lotto by joining with Em and Dre but thats my own opinion) was going at him.. and 50 did have a lot of buzz. Thats true but seriously think about it, Eminem, the great white hope, will give any new artist with some type of talent definite shine.. noticed I said artist with TALENT b/c D12 were whack but I digress.. plus 50 had an interesting story that compelled to that demographic so being catapulted into mainstream success like he did, IMO, was a direct result of teamed the niggas that he was teamed with.. once you're up there and you make some good club bangers then dudes that arent on the same level of success but WAY BETTER lyrically try and go at you its gunna have NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on your career or there career since we all know people dick ride... this site is notorious for harbering them.. example dookie or whatever the hell his name is..

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— about 1 year ago

aight im feelin some of the shit your sayin but im just gonna touch on a couple more things basketball players NEED jerseys and shoes thats part of the uniform and they sell them so the fans can suppor their favorite player or team 50 doesnt need to have shoes but he did cause he wanted to cause he wasnted to branch off and do other deals outside of music. and i know banks is better lyricist cause he has crazy punch lines and metaphors but 50 is an amazing song writher he tell stories unlike more then half ot the rappers out who just talk out their ass ya know..and that whole snitch shit is old man 50 didnt put andyboy in jail he never took the stand...what cuase of 2 bars in a song that preme once said he liked...people started callin 50 a snitch cause they knew he was involved with preme so automaticaly dude thought he snitched...and 50 killed kim with one line "i thought lil kim was hot till she started fuckin with her nose" lol but you say some real shit man i can tell you know what your talkinag about

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— about 1 year ago

Ghost1N, YOU ARE EXCEPTIONALLY ON POINT TODAY! I love it when people make sense.

Credentials:

Where I'm from: Park$ide section, Camden, NJ
Age: 26
Fav. Rapper Male/Female: Nas/Lauryn
Race: Black

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— about 1 year ago

I gotta respond to MileHigh... I LOVE MileHigh...

Let's not get it twisted, I like SOME of 50's stuff. Heat is aiight. Many Men is his hottest track ever, IMO, and he said nothing "mind bending" on it; it was just a hot hood story witta hot beat. In Da Club WAS legitimately a club banger. P.I.M.P. WAS legitimately a club banger. And my personal favorite 50 line ever, "Damn, Homey. In high school, you was the man, Homey. 'The fuck happened to you!?" Lol.

I like some of 50's stuff and I like some of his beats. But, I'm not on his dick all hard like some of you are and putting him on a pedestal he's not. Y'all remind me of dudes in high school that used to put AVERAGE bitches on a pedestal they ain't belong on. Rememeber in high school when a bitch had a pretty face, so she was the shit? But after we got older and started seeing real women with real bodies and seeing that girl you thought was the shit and are like, "Damn, I can't believe I used to like her?" She's pretty but has no ass, no hips, no thighs, no chest, etc... That's 50. Y'all puttin' him on too high of a pedestal. 50 is a good entertainer. Plus, like Ghost1N said, not to mention he's down with Em, a $ machine, like I SAID EARLIER. Anyone who is on Em's team BLOWS! And for the record, even D12, Ghost, went platinum, lol (double if i'm not mistaken off that "PURPLE HILLS" shit) D12 for Em was like Junior Mafia for B.I.

Anyway, I'm NOT HATIN' on 50. Y'all are MISTAKING THE FACTS for hate, the same way y'all mistook A RUN for "MOGULITY" (and I HOPE I cleared THAT up!). The facts are:

50 has LOST many a battle, but y'all still on his dick. It's mind bogglin'. I guess, as long as he can rock a party, y'all gone ride wit'eem.
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Where I'm from: Park$ide section, Camden, NJ
Age: 26
Fav. Rapper Male/Female: Nas/Lauryn
Race: Black

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— about 1 year ago

Damn d12 went plat twice.. them white kids aint no joke huh

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— about 1 year ago

O credentials:
I'm from: Panama.. the country (Pops was in the Military)
Age: 20
Fav. Rapper: Jada/Em ..Female.. don't really have one.. Remy's kinda nice.. lauryn was dope but she stopped a while ago..
Race: black/latino

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— about 1 year ago

these cats are only beefing on wax... I don't see nothing happening.. it don't make no sense to do that.. they both got money... i can only see a scuffle in da club at most... these cats are in the lime light and the hip hop cops are all over this one..

if anyone brings the tools out they will get hymed up real quick.. they aint stupid..unless one of they BG's gonna put in work which i doubt ..

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— about 1 year ago

You did it baby!
Congratulations, homie!
You made history!
1.1 million in a short week! [laughs]
Screw a press conference, press this on your conscience!
D-Block, cheers!
Yeah!
I ain't mad, I don't wanna sound mad, I feel marvelous..
D-Block, Double R, fuckin' faggots..

We gon' handle this like grown men, you won't win
You don't even feel comfortable in your own skin
I rap my ass off, I'm fightin' the champ with the glass jaw
at the Garden or Nassau
See me, couple hood niggaz behind stars
I heard you put a couple good niggaz bars, (Preme!)
I might never sell that much
But you can bet your last 2 quarters, I never tell that much
Picture 'Kiss not come out swingin'
It's like going to see 50 at a show and he don't come out singin'
Yeah, you got a felony, but you ain't a predicate
Never the King of New York, you live in Connecticut
You don't be in the hood, you be in the woods
Fuckin' wit' me, is where you really gon' be for good
I hold the 4-5 myself, and hop out the Range on 1-4-5 myself
This is a true fact
Since when has it become cool to get shot and not shoot back
Trackmasters shelfed you, Bravehearts helped you
Then everybody felt you, now I gotta melt you
And don't try to pull rank on 'Kiss
Cause the niggaz I'ma send to do it ain't gon' miss
Be layed up stiff, I spit straight up 'piph
I did real songs with BIG, no made-up shits
And I don't got a problem with clout
You ain't get shot again yet, so what's your second album about? (Nothin'!)
Your raps are pre-school, you made a lot of money, now be cool
'Fore I swell up your lips like seafood
Can I get a mic check? You don't stand a chance
To dance with me dog, ya steps ain't right yet
Block is just fine, homie, the D's straight
Most likely your new CD is a weed plate
Bunch of love songs, 100% pure garbage
Just somethin' to break up buds on
You should just sell clothes and sneakers
Cause outta your whole camp your flow's the weakest
I'm in the town where the young boys is clappin', (clappin')
You runnin' around with the lieutenant and captain, [laughs]
It'll take a lifetime to see 'Kiss
You had to get shot 9 times to be rich

Rat ass nigga, you's a animal
You's a motherfuckin' animal

Pig ass nigga, you's a animal
You's a motherfuckin' animal

Snake ass nigga, you's a animal
You's a motherfuckin' animal

Matter of fact, you ain't no animal
I'ma show these motherfuckers how to handle you

D-Block!

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— about 1 year ago

And that was the first response.. wow.. owned

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— about 1 year ago

A LETTER 2 MY GOOD HOMEY MILEHIGH:

A. Why is your name, Mile High? Are you really from Chi-town dog or r u from Denver?
COLORADO?

B. The stuff you just said that 50 said is the SAME EXACT shit that Beanie said about Jada years ago.

C. You're tellin' me and the rest of the world that Jada ain't MASSACRE 50 with the CHECKMATE!? Like every other line he was straight MOLLYWHOPPIN' him... C'mon dog...

D. Okay how about this. Let's make a deal. I'll wave the white flag. I've got a project 4 u. I want you to copy and paste what you believe in your heart is 50 CENT'S BEST VERSE EVER. I mean, his HOTTEST FIRE that made you a die hard fan. When you do this, it should make me a fan! That's what it's supposed to do right? It's like the 1st time I heard Cam on Glory sayin' "What you mad about? I see a lot of tightened jaws. I got a lot of hoes, but I'm really, really likin your's. Not to nag her, 'bout if I can bag her. It ain't if I can have her, it's HOW I'm gonna have her. Lay her like a quarterback, on her back, on a mat. You found out, now you wanna act? We ran through her. You want her back? Come on wit that." HAHAHAHAHAA. When I first heard that, I was like, "Ok, this dude is here to stay. He gone be some'n!" I don't care what NONE of y'all say, Cam is nice and though he's LACKLUSTER LATELY, he's shown INKLINGS of brilliancy and greatness.

Hopefully, MileHIGH, you'll complete this assignment.

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MY END OF THE BARGAIN WILL BE THIS: When MILEHIGH pastes what he believes in his heart 2 be 50 Cent's BEST VERSE EVER, I will SMASH it with the "singer" Lauryn Hill's BEST Verse. And, then I'll ransack it with AZ's best verse, since he told me not to mention him. There... the challenge is on. UNTIL THEN.....

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Oh and by the way, MileHigh, I'm sorry, 1 more thing...you DON'T HAVE 2 RESPOND TO THIS CAUSE U HAVE A PROJECT TO WORK ON BUT UM...you asked what has AZ ever done? Well, 4 y4 (your) general knowledge:

A. Had possibly one of the, I'll say Top 5 GREATEST guest verses of all time on ANY rap album.

B. Was a STARTER on 1 of arguably, the GREATEST RAP GROUPS of ALL-TIME (Well, they had the potential to be one of the greatest. The hype and the components were there; then they tried to do a lil too much): The Firm.

C. He kept it 100 his entire HIP-HOP CAREER. He's 7 albums in and STILL doin' his thing. How many artists can you name that are SEVEN albums in and STILL GOING? 50 is definitely not on the list. AZ has a CORE of loyal subjects who will always go out and cop his shit on the independent tip.

D. AZ may be, again arguably, THE GREATEST RAPPER EVER not 2 get the proper respect he deserved. AZ is nasty. His 1st album, DOE OR DIE: VICOUS. HIS 2ND Album, PIECES OF A MAN: VICIOUS. 9 LIVES, AZIATIC, THE FORMAT, AND A.W.O.L. are were solid albums. He's had many bright spots on every album but can't quite get over the damn hump. Damn. I'd compare AZ to Kordell Stewart...or maybe Bo. Football players who should have/would have been GREAT but couldn't quite get there, for whatever reasons.

E. NOBODY ever really took a shot at him. NOBODY. 50 don't want it with A... PERIOD.

F. He's be