Did T.I. Snitch His Way To Freedom??
by on April 17th, 2008
For a second, ignore the fact that this is a Hip-Hop website.... during this period, close your eyes and imagine that you are a judge in the court of law. Now imagine that you had a suspect who was caught purchasing several illegal weapons. Incorporate the fact that he is not allowed to purchase or own any fire arms because of past offenses. But before you jump to any conclusions, also remember that he is a convicted felon who has had serious run ins with the law on numerous occasions. To most people, the decision would be simple. You would give him a heavy sentence. If only life worked this way! Instead of you giving this man the jail time that many would expect him to receive, he cops a plea deal where he could do as little as two years. Does anyone find this a little strange?
The stated scenario above is rapper T.I.'s reality. After being arrested on federal gun charges in October of 2007, Rapper T.I. has struck a plea deal in which he will do 1,500 hours of community service by talking to youth groups around the country, followed by about 12 months in prison. But the amount of prison time he has to do, can be extended or reduced depending on his fulfillment of the terms of the deal and good behavior. While fans everywhere are celebrating for such a slap on the wrist for the self proclaimed "King Of The South", many others are beginning to wonder how a man with such an extensive criminal record could have gotten off with what sums up to be a 'slap on the wrist' for a federal charge. So, the brain trusts at defsounds.com got together and created a theory on how he got such a light sentence. Let's first look at T.I's previous criminal record.
Exhibit A - Before, the gun charges, T.I. already had a laundry list of criminal offenses, as well as parole violations. Here's a look at his record, dating back to 1997.
Nov. 1997 arrested in Georgia for distribution of cocaine, manufacturing and distributing a controlled substance, and giving authorities a false name. He was later sentenced for this crime serving seven months in jail and released on seven years of probation.
Sept. 2003 - arrested in Florida for striking an officer, trespassing and disorderly conduct
Dec. 2003 - warrant issued in Geogia for violating parole
Apr. 2004 - sentenced in Georgia to three years in jail; served less than a yearJan. 2005 - sentenced in Florida to 18 months' probation and 75 hours of community service
May 2005 - released from Georgia jail on $25,000 bond
2005 - arrested for threatening man outside Atlanta strip club; charge dismissed.
Side Bar -
Just to set the record straight, this is not being written to bash T.I. It is merely an attempt to analyze the reasoning behind these judges decisions. But thinking logically, what would be the reasoning for the purchase of the kind of weapons that T.I. was caught trying to buy? Prosecutors allege that T.I., 27, "asked his bodyguard to buy three machine guns and two silencers on his behalf". To make things worse, it was revealed that at the time of the arrest he also had up to a half-pound of marijuana in his car along with three additional handguns. One of which was loaded. With that amount of weaponry, it is easy to make an assumption that the purchases were being made with the intent to use these weapons. Add in his detailed criminal record, along with some of his violent lyrics, and that slight assumption can easily grow to full blown suspicion.
Even law experts are perplexed by the deal that T.I. was given. Atlanta defense lawyer, Page Pate, said, " Cases like T.I.'s usually leave defendants with at least a 5 year sentence. There are a lot of people who are sitting serving time in federal prison right now who would love to talk to schools and churches and other community groups to serve some of their time, but they can't do that because they don't have his celebrity."
Exhibit B-
The common penalty for a weapons charge of this caliber would be a minimum of 5 years, with a 250,000 dollar fine for every weapon purchased. With a credible criminal record, that sentence would usually move up to 10+ years very easily with little argument.
Dont jump the Gun Yet-
Now before I continue it is important to remind you that T.I's sentencing is still not official, which means that after the 1500 hours of community service, that one year sentence can still be boosted up to 5-10 years depending on how the judge feels, and although this may seem like a strange punishment, it is not the first time that a raper has received a sentence. Case in point, Fabolous had something similar to this a couple of years ago, although his crime was not as serious.
Now to put it all together -
So now that we are all caught up with the general information lets take a look at a couple of things that might make you scratch your head if you take a closer look.
On October 4th, 2007, T.I. is arrested in Georgia for buying and possessing automatic weapons.
For a while, there's really nothing going on but updates of T.I. and his status on house arrest then all of a sudden on March 12th Details surrounding the murder of T.I.'s personal assistant and friend, Philant Johnson, emerge.
In an article written on Sohh.com, sources from Atlanta radio station "V103", claim that authorities know who the triggerman is and have also learned the motive behind the crime through another unrelated arrest. Up until this point the shooting had been shelfed as a cold case [ a case with no leads], but out of nowhere the cops get a lead and the case has life again. Then just a couple of day's later T.I. Gets his plea deal.
To those who have not been following, this seems like nothing more than a mere coincidence, but lets take a step back to look at the guns that T.I. bought. According to most of the reports, he was trying to purchase three Machine guns and two silencers, along with his attempt to purchase these weapons, he also had three pistols in his car, one which was loaded. From someone looking in from the outside, it would seem that T.I. must have really had it in for someone to take such a risk and attempt to buy weapons of that caliber. But then the question would be.... Who could bring out this vicious intent out of T.I.? What would motivate a man that has everything to even consider reacting that way when he had everything to lose?
The answer is quite simple.The only person from what we know that might have had that ability would have to be the man that killed TIPS close friend and assistant, Philant Johnson. What else would drive him to purchase weapons meant for destruction other than revenge? When he gets caught, his plans would clearly have been thrown to the wayside seeing that he now had gun charges to beat. So the easiest thing to do would be to throw the one you were after under the bus. With jail time imminent, and revenge still burning inside of him, dropping the dime on his friend's murderer might have been the the key to his deal.
TIP would get some time, but nothing compared to what he might have received, and the cops get to nab a killer. And just to make things a little nicer, they throw in the community service so that TIP can clean up his image so if at the end of the year he gets a slap on the wrist, it can be justified with no suspicion.
After looking over everything and putting the pieces together it becomes clear that the possibility of T.I.P. breaking the ultimate street code very possible. Maybe he did snitch to get a kinder sentence. Maybe just maybe this theory is correct and he gave in the name of the man that killed his friend. The possibility that he gave up the names of some gun traffickers is still very likely as well, but we may never know. So as he begins his rehabilitation process, and starts his conquest to knock out those community service hours and clean up his act, fans will still ponder over how such a deal went through. But regardless of what we may think or feel, he is his own man and must stand by his own decisions. One year from now we may say goodbye to the "King Of The South" for a long time, or the one year sentence might stick, and we will all sit and wonder out loud, "Just how did he pull that off??".























I will say one thing though-
The double drum magazine that is laying under the MP5 holds enough ammo to kill a hundred niggas.
Then you got the 100 round drum that goes with the chopper.
Thats only 2 of the guns.
WHAT THE FUCK DID TI NEED FIREPOWER LIKE THAT FOR????
I think the reason he got off light is because he told the feds he was going after BIN LADEN!!!!
whatever but even if he was out to get revenge, unless he was going against room full of mobs, i just don’t see why he would carry that much firepower.
Regardless tho, it will always be fuel to the fire for the Hip-hop critics, thus solidifying their case Hip-hop advocating violence. its a shame!
they catch me wit it fuck it Im doin my lil bid”
Its WRONG to call a nigga a rat when you dont know his situation. Period. If you got knocked and had the cake to get a great lawyer YOU WOULD. It aint always snitchin man. Money talks.
HE WAS GETTING THAT MONEY ON THE OTHER SIDE, SO OF COURSE HE PROLLY HAD CONNECTIONS IN THE JUDICIAL SIDE, N HAD PEOPLE PULL SUM STRINGS, EVERYBODY HAS A PRICE
Britney Shepherd
p.s. keep your head up and when you are falling think of your kids and how they need there great father….
if some1 killed my friend and i couldnt kill them back
i would def. snitch
that aint a question if you were in his sitch..
and fuck whoever was his fan before this article, and now doesnt like him caz this may be the case… yall fake
next time somebody interviews him, they better get the balls to ask him why he got that firepower
crazy
i mean TI aint no ordaniry person he a celebrity… so he a role model to a hell of a lot of people, they prolly thought maybe we could do some “goood” wit him.. like change the way youngstaz think. you feel me! (i knew what i was gonna say, kind of lost my self in the middle) lol
So what I’m tryna say is.. T.I told information to NAb The MAIN boss.. Thats how he got his deal. There is NO way Absolutely NO WAY u can get out on a federal charge…without do anything that has to do with telling info for a BIGGER person… Yall will see.. LOL
“Just to set the record straight, this is not being written to bash T.I. It is merely an attempt to analyze the reasoning behind these judges decisions.”
That is all
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BUT ALL I GOT TO SAY BOUT T.I. IS
“…..NIGGA SAID HE FROM DA WESTSIDE….WELL GAWD DAMN!!!….MUST BE 2 SIDES!!!!”
but ay realdeal32 is right..
152 is where im restin at son
stfu get of momma computer
Internal beef?
Why dont yall niggas just shake hands and hold it down for your city?
P.S.
You can apologize for rick ross anytime now too.
and why you gonna front on a board son ???
real talk you fake and if you was facin 5years the fuck you on the computer ?
a) T.I. gets a lighter prison sentence
b) he gets a chance to be a real voice of reason in somebody hood
c) He might have had something to do with the capture of someone who killed his CLOSE friend
Are u 4 reel my nigga? R u tryin 2 defend a murderer b/c he got snitched on? I can honestly say fuc dat nigga. RIP Big Phil
if thats the case if i ever go to jail i could be like “look this dude down the street from me did such and such” and ask for a plea deal for turning him in…ya feel me…
more than likely if t.i. snitched on anybody or anything it would be the arms dealers…clearly the police would be more interested in that info than philant (RIP)…
i also wanna chime in on this whole snitchin thing…fukk a “code of street ethics”…if a nigga do some serious shit to me or anybody i love im not gonna take shit into my hands and get caught up…imma call the ppl thats supposed to do they job…thats wat they are there for…and honestly i think if ppl would utilize them as such there would be less police corruption…if the cops see us not steppin up for wats right becuz of the “law of the streets” then they not gonna respect that shit..they jus gonna abuse it cuz they know ppl aint tryna look like snitches in front of their niggas…fukkin stupid…its jus petty shit like that that could fukk up a community..
ti is a multi-million record selling artist at the peak of his carear at arrest. what use does it serve america to put this man, at the height of his wealth and popularity, in jail where we feed him, and take care of him. Why not make his ass work for 1500 hours for free all across the country, then put him in jail when he aint popular, probably ruining the carear in the process. well thats punishment and profit for the state. that seems way more resonable then having your head up t.i.’s ass. -lo
ti is a multi-million record selling artist at the peak of his carear at arrest. what use does it serve america to put this man, at the height of his wealth and popularity, in jail where we feed him, and take care of him. Why not make his ass work for 1500 hours for free all across the country, then put him in jail when he aint popular, probably ruining the carear in the process. well thats punishment and profit for the state. that seems way more resonable then having your head up t.i.’s ass. -lo
as fir T.I. snitchin, highly doubt it
187 days. basically hes a multi million dollar platinum artist that is part-timing as a slave to the us. this article suprises me about you. kind of makes you seem weird dude. like a hiphop nerd obsessive geek. its weird man.
And in case you forgot, IM THA KING!!!!
By the way, since when does wanting the guy (who murdered one of your best friends) to go to jail constitute as snitching???
The statement was made by Cincinnati Police that, they didnt have any suspects and the rumor wasnt true…
I swear you gay ass niggas always trying to make a nigga look bad, If you wasnt why write the article…
Only broke niggas get real bad sentences its your representation thats gets you a good deal… No money equal bullshit lawyer… You poor ass niggas gone get railroaded in the system…
To Lyrical Thought since your bitch ass wrote this article you’d better be right about him snitching… Because aint no nigga in this world gonna think “oh he said he not bashing me” he dont mean no harm…
This shit was foul and directed to make this man look bad…
I aint that big of a fan of T.I., but I hate suspect niggas like you…
I swear niggas aint shit…
http://www.streethop.com/forums/articles/112056.html
For one…
Yall are taking this “snitchin’” shit too too far!
Half of the muthafuckas that talk that “No Snitchin” shit… are muthafuckas that have never been through, or experienced any reason to “snitch” in the first place.
You got suburban muthafuckas with no neighbors, in a desolate environment, with a population os like 15 setting hood rules! Fuck outta here!
I read earlier where someone said that their boy was shot in the head…and the whole hood knew….but no-one has said or done anything! WTF?
That’s not gangsta homie…that’s fuckin’ retarded!
Yeah I said it… and I used to be one of the “sneakiest” hoodest muthafuckas around. Experiencing LIFE changes all of that. Even these wack ass hood rules!
I guarantee that if your brother, mother, sister, daughter, son, or best friend was MURDERED…and wasn’t the intended target…just hit by a stray because some fag shot into a crowd… you’d report that muthafucka if u couldn’t handle it yourself. PERIOD!
If you say you wouldn’t…then that’s just as bad as CAMRON saying the dumb shit he said!
I’ve mentioned this along time ago on a previous topic…
If you murder a fuckin’ woman, or child or any innocent person that had nothing to do with you… then someone needs to report your dumb ass….PERIOD!
I don’t give-a-fuck who says otherwise!________________________________________
Now if TI snitched on dude that murdered his best friend…
Than that’s on TI.
I really cant call him a snitch because I have no idea what the circumstances of his friends death were. It could’ve been a drug deal gone bad or something…
In that case… that’s just part of the game.
I gotta cut this shit short… brb…
~Be Eazy!
see the difference.
If you in the hood doing grimey shit and you say something bout the next nigga thats doing the same grimey ass shit as you………
As apposed to someone’s aunt,or grandma is living that just so happens to be in the wrong place at the right time and see your ignorant kill someone and shes’ trying clean up the neighborhood…….If your not in the streets then the codes do not apply to you…..
Think i got my point across
Good Shit homie!
U got me sittin’ here at me desk clappin’ and shit! Lol.
~Be Eazy!
This is y I don’t trust a lot of rappers they say do something in their songs n do something totally different in real life
N I understand most of da rappers in gangsta rap aren’t real but don’t claim 2 b real if u not
Allow me to retort.T.I is a convicted felon.A convicted felon is not allow to own or carry any fire arms. T.I the convicted felon goes to buy fire arms and silencers(mandotory 5 year sentence per silencers).T.I is caught by the feds buying fire arm and silencers.When the feds search his car, they found a"half-pound of marijuana in his car along with three additional handguns".
Those are the facts of the case, not the dumb shit you are rambling on about.Now with that said, name one perosn in the history of America who has gotten off with such a bullshit sentence as “1500 hours of community serviceand one year sentence in prison” when the case is that strong against them? They caught T.I with the weapons and pull more weapons plus weed out of his car.He could have gotten a maximum of 30 plus years and prison, but he ends up with a slap on the risk.
And dude stop spreading bullshit information.If you snitch on a murderer, you will not get released without prison on most occasion and that’s a fact.It’s up to the DA to make such a deal, and that shit rarely happens.
Prime example:Salvatore “Sammy the Bull” Gravano snitch on John Gotti and the whole gambino crime family.He told the feds about multiple murders and still got 5 years in the pen.Stop spreading nonsense…
Just thought I’d point dat out..lol
I think he is cooperating, no way in hell a convicted felon caught in the act of purchasing an aresenal gets community service and 1 year of time. That just doesn’t happen.
Now no offense but what the fuck is T.I. going to do with those guns honestly?
Impress some of his “homeboys” at most not like he is going to use them.
And now your trying to say T.I. snitched his way to freedom?
How can you say that the only reason he is in the predicament he is in is because of his snitch body guard so bite your toungue.
just LOL.
THIS IS HOW YOU SELL ALBUMS
THANK YOU.
The hardest niggas in the world talk all dat hood honor and street code bullshit until they the ones in the hotseat!
And to be honest….Everybody snitchin!
The whole Stop Snitchin movement was created because this shit is a big problem and everybody cooperates for less time.
With all his priors Tip was probably lookin at a couple decades!
I cant say he cooperated or he didnt cooperate but I dont see how U get dat kinda deal without givin up sumthin
And his money is only going to buy him a bomb ass lawyer! And that really shouldnt matter in this case because he was caught red-handed! Its an open and shut case!
Whats the defense team going to say that he was sleep walkin and he woke up in the Walgreens parking lot with a duffel bag full of Army Guns?
It doesnt matter if it was just one little handgun.
He’s a convicted felon and that puts him in direct violation of his parole.
I dont know if he’s snitchin but there is somethin being left out of this story!
That is all…
i wish i could do that shit and only get a year.
By the way, any of yall two females wanna go out wit tha funky man like me???
I know your all gonna say hell no but probably 75% behind closed doors would do the same thing he did. It’s just how it is.
I know your all gonna say hell no but probably 75% behind closed doors would do the same thing he did. It’s just how it is.
I know your all gonna say hell no but probably 75% behind closed doors would do the same thing he did. It’s just how it is.
I aint know what he doin, Hes a rapper.. Hes rich… Hes fake too, So maybe all his gangsta image, his thug act is just an act.. An maybe he is a snitch?? But then again!!! if hes fake, He prolly wudnt know many traffickers, would he? Hmmmmmmmmm! Intresting
I swear niggas aint shit…
http://www.streethop.com/forums/articles/112056.html
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“yea u got outta jail early cause u workin with the state, SNITCH”
?
One!
HE DIDNT SNITCH ON NO1
SO BACK OFF
REAL TALK, been there done that!
1. Hammer
2. Young M.C.
3. Vanilla Ice
4. Young Joc
5. Shawty Lo
these are the top five worst rappers ever. Lo leave tip alone you gaonna lose.
sentence…if i was caught with those guns I WOULD GO TO JAIL FOR LIFE!!!!
t.i payed off the judge i learned that shit in philosiphy judges like money 2 pay them a easy 5 mil an your free(obviously you negotiate threw your lawyer)
Ok seriously, let’s keep it 100, look at duke’s Sheet, and remember sonn is a felon. Don’t you think it warrants for niggaz to be suspicious? Some of you clowns is saying he got money, blah, blah, blah,…listen Martha Stuart had money, that bitch still did a stretch. R-Kelly has money, his old ass about to go in, Wesley Snipes has money, they sending his ass in.
Lets not be blinded sided by T.I’s money & his status in the industry, but please take time to review the facts presented in this article. If T.I didn’t cut some form of a deal, then his Team’s Of Lawyers are that much hard body & they need to get their asses down to AZ to get DMX of the hook ASAP, cuz we all know that nigga is done.
I believe in coincidence to a certain extent, but not 3 times in a row. The Gunz alone he was trying to buy could send a dude with no record up north for a while, now add his rap sheet & you do the math. But nah he’s being treated like a 1st offender.
Now will I call him a snitch? Hell nah, I wasn’t there when he made his deal, so it’s premature of me to jump the gun,…now did he provide info to arrest homie who killed his best friend? Fuck yeah…y’all got the whole snitching code thing twisted B. If I never did dirt w/ you and u get pinched for killing some dude down the street & I don’t know u….You damn right I’ll give your ass up, is you crazy. Now if you & I both did the crime, now that’s different. We are bound to a code, so then I can never give you up. Y’all sound like some Cam’ron ass niggaz when y’all talk about snitches. If you don’t know the code then just pls cork it.
maturity and growth comes with every nigga and individual.
look at buck and weezy? squashed there beef. Why? maturity and growth.
Tip got a business to handle, artist to look out for, five kids, and his nigga got shot, ANY MOTHERFUCKER would snitch in his situation man, no doubt. and it really aint snitchin niggaz, its a clear proof that TIP growing up and doing big things for him and his family. most of yall niggaz dont know what its like having a family with five kids, even i dont, but im just sayin i understand why he did it, if he did.
These people have $$$ that is power in America. Even Suge said it it in the 2pac & Biggie documentary. “These labels invest in these artists and they help get them off,but homie off the block will be gone for a minute.” Yall don’t remember
Suge got 2pac out of PRISON onto a private jet and he went to Cali!
How many dudes you know leave the county even and make bail? Then get to leave the state? None.
These are superstars people. Not someone from the next set with 20 stacks in the stash.
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those cant be all the guns he does have, if so nigga aint movin no weight. nigga cant rap or bang, so fuck that nigga
Black Wallstreet
shut your fucking mouths, aint none of U gangsta…(to those who are keep bangin) but more importantly, you aint goin do shit..cyber bullets aint hot
Black Wallstreet
shut your fucking mouths, aint none of U gangsta…(to those who are keep bangin) but more importantly, you aint goin do shit..cyber bullets aint hot
Black Wallstreet
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but if it was your friend who was that close to you yall niggas wouldnt give a fuck about the block, yall would snitch in an instant, so stop hatin niggas.
and if he exposed his friends killaz, it aint snitchin to anyone to be honest, PERIOD.
BEST PART:
he ignoring all on going attacks on him from other rappers (shawty DICKHO) etc. and he makin that good lyrical music. thats where the money is, and thats what he should be doing, PERIOD!
but anyway u see them motherfuckin guns my nigga t.i. bout to light the fuckin block UP with them 100 round clips…ya heard 5woop
“He has asked, and we and the Court have agreed, that his sentencing be deferred for a year to allow him to perform a unique and extensive program – at least 1000 hours – of community service. That service will focus on using his high public visibility and his talents and life experience to tell at-risk young people about the mistakes he has made and to educate them about the dangers of violence, guns, gangs, and drugs. If Mr. Harris performs as expected, his efforts and ability to reach and influence a large number of young people should prevent and deter at least some of them from committing crimes that endanger their communities and ruin their lives. Preventing crime is an important law
enforcement objective, one that we expend considerable time and resources trying to promote — and one that if accomplished by a defendant merits a sentence reduction just as we commonly reduce sentences for defendants whose assistance leads to another conviction.”
He did not snitch… Read the entire statement athttp://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/03/27/tistatement_0327.html
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anyway on all the gun comments, anybody that buys guns know
u don’t buy guns like that to shoot on the street dumb a$$E$
u take that shit to the booneys or wherever you can shoot them and let loose!!!
this nigga gotta take care of 4 kids so he anythin to keep them safe
support ya kids B4 ya support ya niggs
MY COUSIN
AINT NO FUCKIN SNITCH
PLUS
IF HE KNEW WHO
KILLED
PHIL
THEN HE WOULD HAVE KILLED THEM
MY CUZZO DOWN FOR LIFE
NEVER A SNITCH
NEVER A BITCH!!!
HE GOT OFF
CAUSE HE KNEW THE FUCKIN JUDGE
DUMB ASS PPL
NEED TO GET YALL FUCKIN FACTS TOGETHER BEFORE
YOU START TALKIN SHIT!!!
RIP PHIL!!!!
HIS PUNK ASS
BODY GUARD SNITCHED
ON HIM
THATS THE ONLY REASON HE GOT
CAUGHT!!!
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the rest of yall need to read a book
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ester.
His boy Phil’s killers were unknown for over a year. Then TI gets arrested for the guns (type of guns that most only see on games such as COD,gears of war, Halo) And BAAAM now the police now know who the killers are. I could have NEVER went on the stand to testify against the killers. even if it was my hommie!!! Maybe if it was my mother., then MAYBE.!!!
so close you fuckin suck holes.