It seems as if he's too indecisive about his artists. He probably has a trust issue too. You really never know when it comes down to the fame-games, it's really a "Roll the Dice" game there. Not that I know any thing about it. It's just observations aren't scarce these days. And seeing most of his artists sell one-hitter-semi-quitters aren't getting me off any.

25% Respect for P. Diddy. Maybe less.

what bout total?

Its hard to say. Diddy will get you hot and maybe he expects you to do the rest...Maybe if you're going to stay hot then it's on you. Many of the people listed are good artist. They should be capable of making it elsewhere right? One thing is certain...Diddy is true to thy self...

why should we hate on him,Because he was smart to tkae these niggas to the bank.Most of the artist he has signed aren't all that good anyway.Black rob is aight he's not and was not going to be the next big coming out of bad boy but he would had been ok.But if you think about things for the long hall most of them wouldn't be around now anyway.Diddy is all about himself and we all no it so why talk about it like its going to change something.Diddy is diddy and thats that...respect his swagger cause he's getting money right now

u forgot Dream, Total, and black rob :)

oops dream is up there, but forgot b5, jordan mccoy.... welp u get it.. the list goes on.

They'll be mentioned. Trust me. This is just part I.

The Lox don't give a fuck about Diddy. Those are real street dudes. Most of the artists up there are females or male r&b singers.

kissmyyellowass i will kissyouryellowass anyday lol

Wow, I thought I was the only one who notice.You should also go into how he takes hit singles from his artist albums and put them on his albums to sell.He did this to The Lox "Benjamins",G-Dep "Lets Get it",Mase"been around the world", and probably many more.People don't understand, Diddy only cares about diddy, so as long as he makes his money, the fuck with the artist.Look at all the artist who left Bad Boy pissed at Diddy, Faith Evans,112,Shyne(for obvious reason),The Lox and so on.

You know, they try to give me a public defender.In the hood,we call them puff daddies, cause all they say is take that, take that-Cassidy

black robs 1st album was life story not the other way around

true tru, yo fullmetal u can make this arguement bout other ceos, dre, jay, suge, they left alot of artist on the shelf.

diddy exposed black, the only problem was him always going to jail. Nobody told shyne to pull out a gun, diddy exposed him only problem is he ended up going to jail.The lox were dumb when they signed there contract, diddy made mase, then let him go to g unit(they be shelving artist dont c u jumping on them).Total broke up do to them going in seperate directions,loon got to big headed and left cause he wanted to be the star.

kissmyyellowass i will kissyouryellowass anyday lol

Hell yea me too

its true diddy b ruining a lot of ppls career bcuz he is all bout himself so if u gonna sign wit him u better come wit a bigg buzz in the streets and b consistent if u dont want him to end yo career on the snap of his fingers

faith and carl, left on there on terms, with no grude with diddy.112 wanted to go to i think island def, were on 106 shortly after they decided to leave and did nothing but praise diddy.craig, guess his work ethic wasnt up to par.Dream they broke up, a couple of them tried to do movies,

bolla tha youngeng, what up man.

FullMetal, what do u get paid 4 puttin' up a designated # of posts? Damn. Again, IF YOU'RE TRYNNA BE A JOURNALIST, then NOBODY wants to hear your opinion all in the posts. Save your opinions for the message board. Cause, even you are talking what you don't know. Do you know that this has been going on in record labels for years? Bad Boy is a SUB-LABEL of Arista, dog. At big, parent record labels, it is impossible to keep all the artists happy and secondly, they're all not gonna sell. For every Bad Boy artist you "say" got effed over, there's FOUR who got effed over back in the day at Motown, or at Sony, or Def Jam, or Universal, or BMG, or Warner Brother, or EMI. This has been goin' on for years. Bad Boy isn't even a PARENT record label and you somehow chose to single out Puff? Why? How about So So Def? Interscope? Death Row? Murda Inc.? Rap-A-Lot? hell, G-Unit, since you decided 2 come at a SUB-LABEL... And please, STOP inserting your

OPINIONS

in the forums. JUST STATE THE FACTS. Save your opinions for the message posts and PLEASE, I SERIOUSLY MEAN PLEASE, JUST PLEASE, TRY 2 talk what u know. AGAIN, take this as constructive criticism.

yet i do admit, (dep, curry,chops,mack)he did neglect them.Yo but let me ask u this aside from L.O.X what have any of the other artist done since Bad Boy. Come on fullmetal, why u mad at them they reject ur Demo.One time for diddy, Take that take that........

charismatic —Thank u. Damn he act like people dont get shelved, only at Bad Boy.I think he tried to get his demo over there and they laughed at it.

Charismatic..do you realize this is an editorial?..meaning the writer has all rights to state his own opinion how ever he/she may please to do so. Stop hatin on Full Metal its getting old already. If you just want the facts go buy a guinness book and get the fuck out.

editorial n. An article in a publication expressing the opinion of its editors or publishers.

Okay, Jokesta, IF we're gonna call the articles at Defsounds "editorials" than I have nothing left to say. But let me ask you this... Are we or you guys trying to make Defsounds a "credible" website that may one day have the power that THE SOURCE had in its heyday, OR is this just an on-line playground filled with shenanigans, antics, and propaganda? YOU TELL ME.

Was good badboy1 nuthin chillin ma nig

damn charismatic u b bringing alot of knowledge to this site u show alot of facts yu dig

Charismatic, i'm not talking about the other articles..i'm talking about this one specifically. I didn't say anything in the kelis article because your comment was warranted...however if you look at the section where THIS one is specifically it clearly states EDITORIALS. Like i've said time and time before..going around spewing the same thing in every article is annoying not only to me but to the readers as well.

charismatic for the new boss at Defsounds. vote now.

We need a new president, vote for charismatic,charismatic,charismatic,charismatic........

badboy1 for the next banned member at defsounds. Vote now!

j.k

NAH MILEHIGHS STILL AROUND DUDE, U NEVER BANNED HIM. TAKE THAT TAKE THAT.............................NAH U KNOW I GOT LOVE FOR U, OKAY CHARISMATIC FOR VICE PRESIDENT.

I understand how you guys feel. You think I'm just being heavily opinionated all the time. If my writing style bothers you, hey, you can't please everyone.

As for the topic at hand,I personally think you were trying to assault me, instead of really commenting on the article. That kind of behavior stems from the bitter and jaded. This is an Editorial. An article where I am free to share my opinions.

These opinions were laced with factual information. Some people appreciated my insight, as this was only Part I of an ongoing series. Rather than being quick to snipe my journalistic credibility, perhaps you should read, and judge when everything has been completed.

Thank you all for reading. Some of you make me really enjoy my position. Have A Nice Day.

Fullmetal.

hell ill be soldier of defsounds or atleast underboss if thats the case..hell ill b the underbosse's under boss

fullmetal u have a nice day as well sir..lmao

LETS GO THEN VOYE BOLLASINTUBOCA FOR UNDERBOSS

ITS ALRIGHT FULLMETAL, I THINK LIL JOHNS BME IS EXCEPTING DEMOS

Diddy is all about himself! He doesn't care about no one else but himself. When Biggie died he tried to make as much money as he could off of his legacy. When The Lox left bad boy he wouldn't give them their catalog! When Shyne took up for him at the club Diddy left his ass hanging. When G-dep needed a lousy $750 dollars to get out of jail Puffy was nowhere to be found. I can go on and on! His stupid ass Vote or Die campaign was some bullshit! All he was trying to do is make money from them T-shirts! Krs one was the one who really started that campaign. Puffy just tried to make a show out of it. He cares about Puffy and that's it!

i agree with u all the way defsounds r...puffy is all bout himself and has made a living off of biggie and has let alot of those dudes like shyne hanging and shit

I feel Puff is a dictator when it comes to the treatment of his artist. I don't know any of his past artist that have seriously prospered after dealing with the likes of Puff and BadBoy.

The way that dude shitted on Shyne should have sent a red flag to all other artist to not sign with BadBoy. It's pretty sad how this guy treats artist.

Nah, Jokesta is actually right. I stand corrected. This IS the editorials section, FULLMETAL... that means u can spew ALL THE OPINION YOU WANT IN your EDITORIALS! Heck, you're supposed to... just don't do it in the RECENT NEWS section and it's all good! Again, it was constructive criticism. Nothin' personal...

thats the problem with Diddy, he's not interested in investing in an artist that may be profitable years from now, the moment they dont sell or lose the public's interest, he drops em....now is that wrong for Puffy to do that?? I dont know it's his record label he can do whatever he wants but the problem is that you have to many one hit wonders yellin Badboy, but then a year later yellin "paper or plastic"...shit aint right.....but fuck it I dont fuck with Badboy like that anyway ever since Biggie died, and for yall's info, especially to the dumb nigga a while back that got pissed cause I said Diddy's not a rapper, guess what, he still aint a rapper the nigga cant rap to save his fuckin life, the nigga is straight up wack.....

Only one President In dis bitch and dats President skillz! Lol anyway I think Diddy gets this kind or critisism because its such a big popular label, nothing to BIg we all know artist get shelved.

P.skillz what up kid

tryin to hold his man mase down, now thats fucked up

thats the problem with Diddy, he's not interested in investing in an artist that may be profitable years from now, the moment they dont sell or lose the public's interest, he drops em....now is that wrong for Puffy to do that?? I dont know it's his record label he can do whatever he wants but the problem is that you have to many one hit wonders yellin Badboy, but then a year later yellin "paper or plastic"...shit aint right.....but fuck it I dont fuck with Badboy like that anyway ever since Biggie died, and for yall's info, especially to the dumb nigga a while back that got pissed cause I said Diddy's not a rapper, guess what, he still aint a rapper the nigga cant rap to save his fuckin life, the nigga is straight up wack.....

hell yea iagree wit ujoey...diddy couldnt rap if his existence in this world depended on it..in my opinion diddy definetly dont careno one and is all bout his paper

cmon dawg aint dat a little 2 harsh? i no he aint a good rapper but he aint dat bad....he is good enough to get by u feel me? i wouldnt buy none of hiz shit but he has said sum ok verses here and there......but puffy iz one fucked up nigga....he got mad loot and when some of his artist need a little help he iz no where 2 be found but when he needs help they bail him out wtf..dats mest up, and as for him having power- he probably does.....who knows?

Puff DID say some OK verses ... look who he had helpin' him! You gotta think SOME OF THAT rubbed off on him; I'm sure he's gotten MANY a pointer! But no, Puff IS NOT a rapper, he's an ENTERTAINER. There's a difference. He's an entertainer/producer/ceo/dancer...! BUT, you gotta respect Puff and his story. Period. Came from nothin'....

Diddy is not the only CEO shitting on artist. Artist have to be smart. There's alot of artist out there only thinking about being famous and driving a nice car with alot of bling bling and they not thinkin about the business side of thing until after the fact.Personally i do think Diddy probably a real dirty dude, very grease. But artist have to be about there business. All artist u see on TV that's making bread, know the basics of contract,publishing,copyright,downloads,etc.It's that stupid mentality alot of dudes in the hood have, they don't read and get to know the facts about things. So niggaz like Diddy exposed them. Before signing your name on any paper do your homework. "The pen is mightier then the sword..True story, look at the list above.That's real talk.

Like 50 said, "Puff's grimmy, he'd do anything for a dollar."

Are we or you guys trying to make Defsounds a "credible" website that may one day have the power that THE SOURCE had in its heyday, OR is this just an on-line playground filled with shenanigans, antics, and propaganda? YOU TELL ME.

Hhmm. I'm going to go with playground filled with shenanigans, antics, and propaganda, for $500 Alex.

Shyne did have a 2nd album while he was locked up: "Godfather Buried Alive" n i dont think hes getting out till 09

watts goody babd boy holla at cha boi. skillz signing out

uhmm i seen craig @ the local full service gas station in an old altima a couple of months back...? does that count? haha

uhmm i seen craig @ the local full service gas station in an old altima a couple of months back...? does that count? haha

lmao

yea i got mad respect for charismatic on this site. he always got good insight and facts and all that shiet but i actually like this editorial.

diddy is what i consider a cold-blooded hustla. hustling to the point u dont give a fuck about anything as long as u get dough. i dont respect that shit but i kno alot of ppl prob do. i respect the hustling that doesnt prevent other niggas from eating and is all good. no shady shit. but w/e thats just me

Uhh..Diddys Rich? He don't give a fuck? Would YOU?

yea actually i would.....if i had millions and i had an artist who lost his house and all his shit (Chopper) ill give sumthin.....i understand that he is really rich and shit but it dont mean he better than any one else...i respect how he came up and made himself into wut he iz 2day but i dont judge him by that but on how he treats others....and he dont treat no wun good.....look wut he did 2 Shyne

forgot to mention i also seen carl thomas walking around 34th street, NYC going into McD's- yeah i said WALKING - and tried to holla @ me and he told me he was carl thomas and invited me to a show and i told him he was lying and my ride came so i brushed him off and rode away :)

@ least i know now that he eats mcdonalds!... so yep.. he's around too!

KissMyYellowAss - you got mad jokes. LMAO!!

lol thank u. but i tell no lies

That shit is too funny to think otherwise.

i didnt read the article.......but all i have to say about pop star diddy is that he is money hungry.......he's greedy.......the man makes money off of biggie's name....
he drains u for all u got........untill u die.....then after u die, he'll still make money off of u.....he didnt have love for biggie.....he had plans for him.....it's sad though.....i dont have respect for diddy....

KissMyYellowAss .... so um can I holla :-)

About Time somebody exposed the truth about Diddy a.k.a. J.J. Jerkanigga. The prime example is E. Ness. Ness is the deal and diddy been bullshytin

no lol im tryna holla @ mister CEO jokesta :b

Its some fake azz shhit to give diddy all these propes then at the top of te next headline have him on some homo shhhit...

thats some bull shht i'm not a puffy fan but thats still some ol 2 faced shht...

keep it real def sounds..

take advantage of those willing to be taken advantage of.sure diddy is a vampire.but we know that going in.most biz people are thats the nature of bizness.profit must be made at any costHe's a promotional magician floating by on a facade that he's a great judge of talent.The white folks love him becuz he seems to have that charisma of danger,style and flavor,but to most black people he is a cornball flavorwise,but whitey hasn't caught on to that yet.

Yo that JJ Jerkanigga skit was a funny ass hell!
J Hood: "Man I'm tired of sittin in the back of the plane.. I want first class.."
JJ Jerkanigga: "You wanna fly first class? SunJet Baby! Everybody flys first class. First you stop in DC, then you stop in Philly..." yall niggas rememeber the rest.. and if you don't get get the Knock Ya Self Out cd..

Um Hyfee Bay Ridah?... This is an editorial... I was degrading Diddy... not giving him compliments. You must have only read the first paragraph.

Reading is fundamental, kid.

Diddy= JJ Jerkanigga.

how bout the rock group fuzzbubble when he signed the for a 2album deal and all we heard was it's all about the bemjamins rock remix.. by the way that was 4 remix to asong that only needed one.that had dave groul, rob zombie, and a couple of other notables so i guess (puff.diddy) or what ever he wants to call him self this week is all about the benji's. as far as craig macks 2nd album he had left bad boy for about a yearand halfby that point. signd to streetlife for 2 album deal after the album had luke warm then quicky turn cold they drooped him plus that album was solely by craig mack all exept 2or 3things he ultimily got screwed.that was good album.when sean diddy. combs signd dream he ran out of talent cause he let the first couple go when there contract was up. alot of the times a lable owner will sign an rtist for more of a personell greed of what they will make for the lable contracts are desighnd to keep an artist tied to the contract.wether its 3 album 4year or what have you. they may give an artist 50,0000 to sign that makes theperson feel they made something out of thier lives (but remember that advance they just gave you works like abank loan).providing that you are a hot artist might not have to worry about thatbig paybackas much that paid back threw roylties (selling your rights of your music orproduction to the lable)this is where the artist makes money when the artistmakes enough roylitieshe may or may not have an option toby his rights back.also depending on what the contract the artist signd how much is his/her contract states the will be entiteld to most new artist only see about 3if they are lucky imagine selling a 12song l.p that you arrnged,wrote,produced,marketed,and not to for get the studio time that has to be paid for!!!!. a cd sells for an average of 14 dollars whats 3 percent of that you ask well thats about10 cents per unit (cd)that is sold most people don't go platinum or gold there first time so maybe (if they last thatlong) on there 2nd or 3rd release they start paying of there first advance. so artist be ware.if yuou don't have talent don't sign

"i though i told you that he wont stop, i thought i told you that he wont stop (eh eh)." <<<< means he wont stop screwin his artists over if it involves gettin money.

Behind every great fortune is a great crime!! Remember that shit!! Diddy is a criminal, he's just a white collar criminal is the only difference.

hey i guess your right when you put in that sense that for every crime that is out there and he who doesnt get caught is a great con artist.but like i was saying before that lables don't cre for thier artist they will drop the like a hamberger that dropped on a floor at burger king or mc.donald's. and serve that str8 to the public. for example who cares if the chain hangslow or tis is why (i'm hot) not hiphopat all.they have a onesmall elemet that.......well doesn't i guess never mind i could go on forever bout the way music in gen, foorm has lost it's touch. today's music does not have the same soul. (bob seger)

............DAMN LMAO! DONT KILL THE MESSENGERS PEOPLE...............lol...

Damn I think that we ALL have been in one too many Lil Wayne / g-unit / dipset debates! We all have gotten soo used to destroying any and everyone that has something to say besides what we think they should say. I know this for a fact because I'm one of the main ones that was doing it!!!!!! lol

Me and a female friend of mine were talking about how MEAN and IGNORANT I have a tendacy to be at times. At first I was shocked because I thought I was the nicest muthafucka on this planet! But of course I was proven wrong (yeah it happens rarely).
Of all things to prove her point with she used DEFSOUNDS!!!!!!

She pulled up like 60 of my posts... in all of them I was BRUTALY BASHING THE SHIT outta people (mainly lil wayne and dipset lovers...so of course they dont really count in my book lol :))!

But still in all... we get soo used to people coming at our throats with butterknives that after a while... you just naturally start attacking people. Especially when u know that eventually they're gonna say some dumb shit to u!
It's like beating a kid before he fucks up saying "oh well...you'll deserve it eventually" lol.

My fellow Defsounds-ians (lol...a Wizzle [word/phrase Wiz made up])...
We seriously have to stop attacking eachother... we have to stop the sense-less:

1)E-beefing
2)Keyboard Killin'
3)Sentence Slayin'
4)Pharse Fracturin'
5)Verbal Vice Grippin' etc...fuckin' ect!

Hopefully my Wizdom has shed a lil light on this situation... if not... then Fuck yall! :) (dont u just feel the luv?) :)

One more thang... 4 those that I have viciously assaulted verbally... (go to Lil wayne's Jamaican Song in the SINGLES section for a prime example lol)

Then let's pretend that I was a big enough man to apologize... and that yall were gracious enough to admit that yall provoked me and did it to yall selves and move on! lol... :)

~Be Eazy!

The L.O.X 1st Album—Money Power & Respect: RIAA certification: Platinum
After a highly publicized “FREE THE LOX” campaign, in which they went to RuffRyders, Diddy still had control over their recordings, and whatever they record as a group, he makes money off of. Why do you think we haven’t heard a LOX album since their second (We Are The Streets)?

YOOOOO!! I was always wondering why they never came back out as a group!!
I alwasy thought that they have soo much trouble selling as individuals, why don't they put out a group effort and watch how people eat it up...!! I guess this is the reason why...Too bad for the lox....I mean Sheek, Styles, and Jada...lol