Republican National Convention: Battle rappers or legitimate politicians?
I’m not sure about how I feel about this whole RNC
business.On one hand, I had the
shit scared out of me by 15,000 white folks in Minnesota chanting “Drill, Baby, Drill,”
without really considering the affect it might have on this fragile little
thing we live on called OUR PLANET.
On the other, I felt like I saw into the future, and it made
me cry.The way these folks were running
their mouths, Defsounds, I would’ve sworn it was you.Instead of focusing on issues and the plans
they have to turn the economy around, create more jobs, how the “tax-breaks”
might help out everybody instead of … a certain few … they went in on the stuff
that didn’t matter.
Now, to make this more concrete, I’d like to point out a
member under the alias of Marquise de Sade, who has brought up some things to
think about on different articles.And
how when people disagreed with him (instead of saying I disagree and saying why),
they’d say things like “You use the n-word a lot,” … when that has nothing to
do with what he was saying.
So imagine the Republicans doing that same “Well, your ideas
are good so let me talk about the shit that’d make the crowd go crazy" thing. Change
the Republicans into rappers and change RNC to Scribble Jam ’08, and then
listen to some MC’s talk about having served in the military, been a POW,
commitment to the country, no-holds-barred approach to politics, and their family
values.Fasho.The crowd is going wild.
Then, imagine that one rapper goes so far as to say the
difference between her and a four-legged beast is: (drum roll please) …
lipstick.Wow.Girl’s got punchlines.She’s like Canibus on aircrafts that take off
and land vertically.
....then came the line of the night!
"I guess
a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer - except that you have
actual responsibilities.”
Oh.SHIT.Did she just say that?I was visiting my mommy, posted in her living
room, trying to spend some quality time eating Cheez-Its, and Palin came with
THAT.Wow.The crowd went nuts, as they often do in
battles, even when it’s f***ed up.I
threw my box at the TV like “She’s sick!!”
But then the dust settled, and I had a few seconds to
reflect on why that was F-star-star-star-ed up.Translated into English from the Republican language of
not-so-subtle-shit-talking, Palin and every body else was basically saying “M#((erF$*!$ like Dr. King
and Ghandi and Mother Theresa and every one else that has ever tried to make a
difference in the world—and have actually succeeded—did nothing.”
Wow.She’s a beast on the
mic.She’s like a pitbull.With lipstick.
fuck your first bullshit!!!
but on a serious note, you really can’t just blame republicans for this shit. Unfortunately thats polotics in america today. Both sides do it, and the entire process of running for president becomes less and less relevant to the issues every 4 years. Hopefully the best candidate will win and change that.
I encourage everybody to go out and vote. If you like obama, mccain, or even ross perot, go out and vote for your candidate.
Yo,
I think McCain picked Palin for all the wrong reasons. I think it was a strategic move, to try and pull Hillary supporters away from Obama, but we have to all ask ourselves if something happens to McCain is Palin a good choice for President? That is what McCain should have been asking himself, and if he did he would never have made that choice. Also her personal stuff is gonna be a detriment to the G.O.P. I’m democrat, voting for Obama (really voting not just talking). PEACE Come check out The Livin’ Large Morning Show w/ Bobby Livin’, and Tony Large Sundays 11am-1pm EST at www.clubmegamix.com. You’ll like it. We go on LIVETODAY!!
i cant believe people r actually talking politics on ds. u guys make me fucking sick, n make me laugh at the same time. first of all, dont blame mccain on what bush has done, n actually heres a funny little fact for u guys to think about: obama actually voted WITH bush MORETHATMCCAINHAS in the last 4 years. obamas vice pres, joe biden, has been in washington for 35 years. SOMECHANGEHUH? he talks about wanting to change washington n have a new face n all that bullshit when in reality his vp is the fucking problem in washington. another thing for yall ignorant folks to thinka bout: obamas nice cool “tax break” he has planned for everyone actually involves taxing the middle class a fuck load more than mccain. in total, obama pretty much is planning to turn this into a communist nation. if u dont kno what that means, basically all the money i make will b split with everyone else. fuck that. i work hard for my money n none of yall deserve what i work hard for if u dont work for anything n just expect someone to drop a check in ur hand. one more thing. leave sarah palins child THEFUCKALONE. WHOFUCKINGCARES IF SHESPREGNANT!!!! what do u think she told her to go out n get knocked up? no. she probably told her not to have sex but guess what, how many times did u do the exact opposite of what ur parents told u as a teen? jesus fucking christ people get brainwashed n get all tied up in the commotion without realizing the big picture. please, before yall go vote if u do which im not cuz i hate both candidates, please god think of the big picture. dont vote for obama just cuz hes black n u r too that would b the fucking dumbest reason. seriously, think of the affect its gonna have on ur country. read about what they actualy stand for and what that actualy means. as i read everyones comments on here i get more n more scared n yet it makes me laugh n get mad so much.
i cant believe people r actually talking politics on ds. u guys make me fucking sick, n make me laugh at the same time. first of all, dont blame mccain on what bush has done, n actually heres a funny little fact for u guys to think about: obama actually voted WITH bush MORETHATMCCAINHAS in the last 4 years. obamas vice pres, joe biden, has been in washington for 35 years. SOMECHANGEHUH? he talks about wanting to change washington n have a new face n all that bullshit when in reality his vp is the fucking problem in washington. another thing for yall ignorant folks to thinka bout: obamas nice cool “tax break” he has planned for everyone actually involves taxing the middle class a fuck load more than mccain. in total, obama pretty much is planning to turn this into a communist nation. if u dont kno what that means, basically all the money i make will b split with everyone else. fuck that. i work hard for my money n none of yall deserve what i work hard for if u dont work for anything n just expect someone to drop a check in ur hand. one more thing. leave sarah palins child THEFUCKALONE. WHOFUCKINGCARES IF SHESPREGNANT!!!! what do u think she told her to go out n get knocked up? no. she probably told her not to have sex but guess what, how many times did u do the exact opposite of what ur parents told u as a teen? jesus fucking christ people get brainwashed n get all tied up in the commotion without realizing the big picture. please, before yall go vote if u do which im not cuz i hate both candidates, please god think of the big picture. dont vote for obama just cuz hes black n u r too that would b the fucking dumbest reason. seriously, think of the affect its gonna have on ur country. read about what they actualy stand for and what that actualy means. as i read everyones comments on here i get more n more scared n yet it makes me laugh n get mad so much.
Lmao. Are you smoking crack?
Was the comparison not clear enough?
And Education Reform. What the fuck did they say? “We believe in what the kids learn instead of liberal propaganda that puts the needs of the teachers first.”
They’re on PCP to have to balls to say that. Teachers as a whole don’t make shit, especially for what they do, budgets keep getting cut form education but get inflated on state budgets for other things like … not educating our children which means … our state faces a threat when we’re not raising informed citizens who are capable of deducing and VOTING on issues.
And they said nothing about their PLANS for education reform.
PLUS. Those muh’fugga’s were talking about change, like they’re presenting the ticket for change … like they weren’t running shit for the past 8 years?
And all this about a do nothing senate, it’s only been democrat for 2 years. Which means the other 6 years nothing was getting done … kn’amsaying.
And even if it has less to do with hip hop than you’re used to.
I’m sorry but music can take a back burner on effing … who … is going to be … the president … of our country … for the next 4 years.
No offense.
But.
Kn’amsaying.
It could be the difference between whether or not we exist.
hip-hop’s definition is knowledge in action… ask KRS-One. Knowing about the goings-on of our country is as much hip-hop, and even more in my honest opinion than knowin how many phantoms weezy wanted to let us know he has… (or any other rapper for that matter) KIR
Keep It Real.
ST. PAUL, Minn. – Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.
Some examples:
PALIN: “I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending … and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress ‘thanks but no thanks’ for that Bridge to Nowhere.”
THEFACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a “bridge to nowhere.”
PALIN: “There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it’s easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate.”
THEFACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.
PALIN: “The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars.”
THEFACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama’s plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain’s plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.
Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.
He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.
MCCAIN: “She’s been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America’s energy supply … She’s responsible for 20 percent of the nation’s energy supply. I’m entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America,” he said in an interview with ABC News’ Charles Gibson.
THEFACTS: McCain’s phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she’s no more “responsible” for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.
MCCAIN: “She’s the commander of the Alaska National Guard. … She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities,” he said on ABC.
THEFACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under “federal status,” which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska’s national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.
FORMERARKANSASGOV. MIKEHUCKABEE: Palin “got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States.”
THEFACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor’s election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.
FORMERMASSACHUSETTSGOV. MITTROMNEY: “We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin.”
THEFACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.
Yeah! Obama 08. Obama’s charismatic and on rise during his country’s economic decline. He caters to the emotion of young people incredibly well too. I mean save logic for the few, right? He has all the right media propaganda (95% of our media being controlled by liberals helps him a lot). Obama has his own little symbol, wrote a book about his world views, and some people actually think he’s a Messiah (seriously, I’m not kidding). He was involved with a seperatist movement for 20 years(called Black Liberation Theology), and speaks of CHANGE but doesn’t clarify it (unless it’s through more government control).
Wow! It’s funny how history can repeat itself and sometimes people are too naive to realize it. I can think back in history about a leader once who was so much similar before he was in a position of power. He too gave extremely charismatic speeches and motivated the people emotionally for dramatic change. He too had the right media propaganda and the people loved him. The people wanted dramatic change and that’s what he constantly spoke about but just like Obama he never explained exactly what he meant or how he’d make the changes. This leader also was involved with a seperatist movement in his past and his country was going through a depression. He also wrote a book about his world views and also had his own “little symbol”. On top of that, people thought he was a Messiah too. I guess Adolf Hitler did make a lot of changes.
Alot of people are wondering why McCain would pick this nobody governor anyway. The hillary voter arguement is tired, seeing as though there are other female governors in other states.
Think DS think. She’s governor of Alaska. Alaska = oil.
please go out and vote, especially if you live in a key state (ohio, florida, penn, wyoming, north dakota, illonois, etc.)
don’t forget that Palin lied about the bridge to no where and she’s getting investigated for ethics Republicans stay lying seriously how can anybody vote for them
How many people on this website support McCain? Okay. Now using elimination, how many people support Obama?
Alright, now how many people know about what Obama and McCain are trying to do to this country? (ie. changes they’re bringing) How many people even watched the Democratic and Republican Party Conventions?
I bet you if Obama didn’t appear black, then many blacks would NOT vote for him. I’m not trying to hate or anything, because how am I suppose to hate on the candidate I support? But forreal when’s the last time you looked up the differences between the two campaigns. Fuck being the first black president, I want a GOOD president. Ignore the color, read before you make choices.
What if Obama wins, but he only won because he got many black votes? Then, he fucks up the country. You know who fucked up? Not him, we did. The fucking voters who amended the delegates’ decisions. There’s a time to listen to hip-hop artists talking their ‘ish about voting for Obama for “change,” and there’s a time to READ (yeah I said it) about the change.
Yeah and when you wanna talk about politics, don’t just copy and paste shit you got from the Associated Press (Lyricalthought, no offense). Because the statements you posted actually aren’t all lies. They just over exaggerated some shit to move the people. But this is politics, you have to attack somehow to win. I don’t think I have EVER read any posters talk about actual politics and debate-points on this website (correct me if I’m wrong).
Don’t vote for Obama because “he’s black, I’m black, why not?!” Don’t try to front either because that’s probably the first thing people think when they think about Obama, I’m no exceptions. Vote for him because you made an educated decision, not on that ignorant shit.
I support Obama, but not for the wrong reasons. A lot of people can make good speeches, so don’t depend on that. You wouldn’t vote for Hitler would you?
Well, for the “posters talk about actual politics and debate-points” sentence. I mean from my experience on Defsounds, but I don’t stay lurking the forums for political debates lol.
If niggas gon vote 4 obama cuz um.. he a nigga 2. Then im all 4 it cuz crackers votin 4 mccain cuz…yea, hes a cracka 2. And they damn sho dont want a nigga in da oval office, whether its for the better or worse for the country. I was gon vote 4 him jus cuz he black but then i started lookin into this polital shit. And now i c dat he da best candidate neway. Mccain aint gon do shit but continue to blow up the rest of the world, like bush, and then wat happens wen the rest of the world wanna shoot back. ‘’Even the greatest nation in the world has it comin back 2 em a thousand times ova.’’- Nas
That’s a horrible view of politics. Vote for the white man because he’s white and I’m white. Vote for the black man because he’s black and I’m black. My teacher is white and he’s voting for Obama. Obama has a white VP, what’s that say?
What are you talking about, “blowing up the world?” wtf. If you’re talking about the war in the middle-east, it’s a war against terrorism. Remember what happened during 9/11, yeah that terrorism. The one that killed 3000 innocent civilians.
I agree with everything your saying people should do their research, before they vote for anyone, don’t vote for obama because he’s black and dont just vote for McCain because he has more experience, oh and I posted that article from associated press so people wouldn’t read into all of the things that they were saying, over exaggeration or lies, their still not the truth.
I just thought it was funny how they categorically stated things, and rephrased comments so when I read that article that I posted I thought it would be a good way to get the topic moving….
But none the less, you made some really good points Props
Yeah, props man. What a lot of people don’t realize, including me until I watched McCain’s speech, which was almost as good as Obama’s, is that McCain is a really good candidate too. They both are, and McCain might be actually better than Obama, but I’m for Obama because McCain dropped the ball when he picked Palin, who is a heartbeat away from fucking up this country. Now don’t get me wrong, McCain has a lot of flaws that I don’t like, but he basically denounced his party as Republicans and doesn’t get along with Bush very well. He has begun branching off from Bush and making smart decisions. People need to do their research. But yeah, Obama talks about changes, but the money needed for this might put us back a few steps. Also he is inexperienced. Don’t get it twisted though, I’m voting for Obama as of now, but really do your research before you vote for Obama just because he is black. Educate your mind.
Oh yeah, I’m white and I am PRETTY sick of seeing all the “white people are going to vote for McCain because he’s white”. That is what really pisses me off, because I don’t know many white people that are voting for McCain, out of like the 300 I know, maybe like 20. That is pretty fucking beat of anyone to say that, and of course I’m not targeting blacks, just people who said that, and if this doesn’t concern you, don’t worry about it.
“^^You make a whole comment about the ignorance of voters and yet you still believe that the war in the middle east is a war on terrorism…”
Well, the war was originally against terrorism when it began, the criticism is within what it’s become. I’m just trying to make a point against the guy who said McCain just wanted to blow up the world…
Unless you agree that he does, then that’s a new argument.
go & cop “Audacity of Hope” by Obama. Then you’ll see why as a white dude I’m voting for him. He’s not about stance on the issues as much as collaboration on the values & needs of the American people. Just like he said in his speech @ the DNC, “we might not have the same stance on abortion, but we can all agree that we’d like to reduce the amount of unwanted pregnancies.” That’s not a race thing at all.
people turn politics into ignorance….like i’m black and voting for obama and not beceause he is part black but honestly, i was going to vote for hillary. I don’t really care what anyone under me thinks “OH JERSEYCITYNIGGA is a sell out voting for that white woman” blah blah blah, but whatever. Half of the people don’t even tune into cnn and msnbc and check out anything, they just say “I’m black, and He’s black, he has my vote” and that’s ignorant as hell without even checking out what each candidate has to offer and the back drops of each policy they are throwing out……If obama said “i wish all black people were hung on a tree so all the whites can point and laugh and take pictures” are you going to vote for him??? or if obama says “Bill o’reilly is my home boy”..are you going to still vote for him???? I can be apart of the republican party because i’m above the middle class by a tiny margin in money but i’m a democrat by heart and yeah. I don’t want to beat any of you in the head with my jibberish but some of you is turning this into ignorance and I BET!!! you that only 15ppl out of the thousands are going to actually go out and vote…………Obama do your thing
naw fuck the dumb shit Im not black but I aint affraid to say it.Im voting for Obama for 2 reasons. 1 is cause he is a democrat and 2 he is black. The republican notion of capitalism creating jobs and letting it trickle down to the poor is fucken outdated and obsurd.Ppl in the hoods all across america plus rural backwood poverty need govt aid that the republicans continue to ignore.Shit Im from one of the poorest states on the map and see that shit happen first hand.And yes I am voting for obama cause hes black its way long over due that we get an equal chance to choose a minority in office,the fact that it took this long is fucken disgusting and ppl need to stop being biggots when it comes to other cultures.That shit is also obsolete wake the fuck up ppl
I commend you for being proud of who your voting for,
But Im leery at your reasoning.
Being a democrat means nothing, just because their democrats dosent mean they will do whats right for the country or whats right for us.
Remember it was a Republican that came up with Public assistance, it was the republicans who abolished slavery, it was the republicans who fixed the economy after world war I.
Dont vote for somebody for race or for political party, Vote for them because you agree with their goals and views for America.
For Example, Im voting for Obama because he has touched and said he will focus on the issues that affect me such as..
College tuition
The Economy
Social Security
Health Insurance-Which I dont have
Gas Prices (New Energy Plan Moving away from Feul)
the perception of America around the world
Moving away from the massive tax breaks that people making 250,000 or more receive and giving those tax breaks to the lower bracket salaries
Those are some of the things that he plans to focus on, and those are the that effect me.
Meanwhile from what I’ve heard and seen, McCain wants Offshore Drilling (although Obama did agree with that smh)
Does not want to improve the wages for teachers
Wants to Cut the amount of financial Aid College students can receive
Beleives that if you give the richer people the biggest tax breaks it will have a trickle down effect (Thats been the plan for 8 years and clearly it hasnt worked smh)
Wants to send more people to Iraq
Does not Support Aboriton (Im Pro Choice)
Does not support gay marriage (Let God Judge them we have no right)
And is known to Sleep with Lobbyist, and make backdoor deals that will help him while hurting the country.
Why don’t you guys look up the sex scandal he had with the communications Lobbyist
I can’t believe what I’m reading. alot of you guys on here are older than me and yet it’s so sad to see you state some of the most ignorant statements like “i’m voting for him because i’m black.” COME ON
yes is a wonderful thing that a minority could possibly become president, but if he’s gonna mess everything up for us, i’m not voting for him. ANDYES I’M BLACK. I would vote for a white guy who is a good candidate before a vote for a black who is a horrible candidate ANYDAY IN A HEARTBEAT.
do you realize how important the president’s job is? are you really ignorant enough to put someone in that position JUST because he’s a minority? so if he’s a crackhead but he’s black we shoud vote him in. PEOPLEPLEASETHINK, YOU’RE MAKINGMINORITIESANDHIPHOPHEADSLOOKBAD, YOUPROVINGTHESTEREOTYPESCORRECT!!!
^ that’s some real shit……republicans policies are basically leaning towards the mid to higher class people because they can afford to go by most of his policies and laws while the families that are struggling will contiue to struggle and drop even lower in society. Basically McCain is george bush’s clone but with another last name. What makes me mad is, BLACK ppl are always bitching about who is in office, and how republicans keep winning but if you don’t get your asses out and vote, it will happen again and again. When you vote you are putting your voice out there and your vote can make a difference even though the electoral college’s shit is the main jump-off but your one vote can help that candidate win your state but you have to make an effort and get your ass out of bed and go to the voting booth(s).
I’m voting for Obama because he is black, the same way white people voting for Mccain because he is white..The conservatives didn’t want him, but they sure is hell don’t want Obama. Why do you think John Mccain chose Palin in the 1st place? She is pro-life, pro-guns everything John Mccain isn’t(he’s switched his votes a bunch of times)..Mccain is rallying his base and his base happens to be white people..Did you see the convention…14,999 white people, 3 Asian cooks, 2 black janitors and a disabled ethiopian kid..Real representative of America right? We have been voting for white people our whole lives, some can’t even break the cycle and will vote for Mccain..
To my Hispanic brothers, it’s so sad that you guys always sympathize with us, say your “one of us” and all that ish…Drop the N-word, listen to our music, jock our slang, but soon as someone mentions that hispanics have african blood your heads spin around in disgust. Sad Obama won’t win the hispanic vote, but then again you guys are “one of us”..
Sarah Palin is an idiot..Her daughter is a hoe and the only reason I call her a hoe is because if that was Michelle Obama’s daughter we would’ve heard about how “unwed black mothers giving birth in this country is an epidemic” But when white folks do it “it’s a tragedy and oh don’t worry their going to get married” Get the fuck outta here. SOrta like Malcom X was “revolting” but what ya’ll did in 1776 was a “revolution”…I can’t believe we will elect trash but the black family has to be the god-damn huxtibles and still people have doubts…Ya’ll ain’t hearin me this afternoon.
Cindy Mccain is a pill-popping junkie. When someone in her non-profit organization outed her to her husband, press and authorities they were fired..She doesn’t even acknowledge that she has siblings for christ sake! but has a couple of half-brothers and sisters…
And so what John Mccain was a P.O.W., I respect his service, but you “chose” to sign up and you knew the risks, so you shouldn’t get special treatment.
As someone who’s worked for Republicans and Democrats, there are evils in both. But the republicans are hypocrites. I used to kick it with a representatives son and that boy was out of his fucking mind. Pills, Alcohol, weed, coke, all in one night?! Damn nigga space it out or something..Then not to mention the mom was a complete whore and one the kids wasn’t his and he didn’t even know..I’m done fuck MCcain, Palin and all those who are not voting for Obama..You ain’t making 250,000k a year and voting republican?? kill yourself!
Clearly you need to read what rscrbc has read. Oh and stop saying white people are gonna vote for McCain, because you REALLY don’t know what you’re talking about. My entire family is white and they are all voting for Obama. Same with mostly all of my friends. Not everything is about race. Educate your mind.
1st of all race matters and the only people who don’t think so is white people..Black and brown people have been over the race issue since the beginning of time. Remember you guys wrote this thing called the declaration of independence which states “all men are created equal” man that was the 1700’s and it still took 250 years, a civil war and you guys still don’t get it!!! lmbao
Discrimination is one of the key components into why their is a recession today..The Housing Market.
A black man with a college degree has the same chances as a white man with a felony. And we are getting our asses kicked on the technology front..All men are not created equal and the education system proves that daily. The republicans try kicking knowledge with that bullshit “charter” school non-sense..Instead of paying money for busing, so a kid in lower income area can go to a better school, how about you just use that funding to fix the school in his area!!!!!!!! Nope but that’s too fucking easy! The whole point is that b/s manifesto “all men are created equal” is not true. Your people preach, practice and live it everyday.
Malcom X was once asked by a white female on the steps of Harvard University
“what can I do to further your cause”
Malcom replied “nothing”
I respect you and your family for its decency, but you are one white family out of millions who don’t see Barack as equal. Sad but true. And the white people who do see him as equal ask the question “why can’t all blacks be like him” as if being black is some type of lifestyle..Either way race matters always. Barack shouldn’t have the burden of being called “post-racial”..Lol all those white politicians that black people have voted been called “post-racial”??? I think not..Even when you don’t mean too, you still do and always remember the “people with the best intentions, commit the worst atrocities”. Racism is one of them.
White people talking to black people about race should understand you got to let that black person get the 1st 100 blows! You have any idea what its like not to be able to trace your roots? Have no clear knowledge where your from? I guess your irish or german? Me I don’t know! I couldn’t tell ya. I put my last name in one of those “trace your roots” search engines and all that came up was a bunch of English cats. I guess those were my ancestors slave-holders.
Understand that wherever your people have showed up death, disease and despair has followed for brown and black people. Understand that I and other blacks today do not blame you directly, but we want you to understand things are not equal and probably never will be. We are a people with “30-day tags” because this is not our permanent residence. We are lost in the wilderness known as America. Brought here unwillingly.
While most blacks today don’t have grand-parents who were slaves, they were most likely share-croppers which was “slavery”, still under Jim Crow laws. Don’t get me wrong, there were black hotels, nightclubs, businesses owned and operated by blacks all through the 1920’s, 30’s,40’s,50’s and 60’s but when desegregation happened, we suddenly, over night had to play by “your” rules. Building permits, zoning codes, fire hazards. Get where i’m going with this..Boarded up buildings in every city in America that has been standing since the 60’s most likely at one point was a happening night-spot black owned..Due to ill preparation post segregation that went to shit quick.
MLK gave his speech on August 28th, 1963. Not even a month later on Sept. 15th 1963, 4 little beautiful black girls were killed in a bombing..
MLK said " I feel like I’m integrating my people into a burning building"
actually u didnt really answer my question, tho u did make excellent points, i was just saying that a barack could be like the black george bush and you woudlve voted for him cause hes black? also i was saying that it was inaccurate the way you were saying all white people are voting for mccain… and yes, i know exactly what its like to not be able to trace your roots, my grandma’s entire family was killed in the holocaust, her escaping, she had to watch as the nazis rounded everyone up into a movie theater and burned it to the ground, so my people know a little bit about what its like to have death as their story, but no i will never know what its like to be black, and you will never know what its like to jewish, its much harder than it seems, and im not comparing the two in any way… so just please understand that black people arent the only ones that have problems
I love my country, but this war is bullshit..White people need to realize not everybody wants their Mcdonald garbarge littering their high-ways..Imagine a bunch of foreign tanks and armed serviced men walking through your neighborhood and you decide to stand up and fight?! Sounds like a mother fucking Patriot to me!!But then again we’re white and everything we do is right, even when we’re wrong! So listen to us, become a western society and adopt our religion, politics, disease and corruption. Look at Spain..They don’t even recognize their latino brothers outside of the country..Some of the most racist sons of bitches on the planet. That’s because they are completely white-washed and as European as one can get.
I don’t mean to disrespect the wonderful people of the service. Disproportionately minorities, but man sometimes that shit ain’t our place. Yeh some of these politicians have family members in the service but I guarantee it’s not in combat!!! How man politicians son’s die out of 4500 or so?? Anyone?? My point exactly..They sit back and collect all the fucking money why we doing all the dirty work…I hope China or North Korea puts a motherfuckin dent in America sometimes so we can become England and realize you can’t just set up your ideals and influence anywhere you please..England got a wake up call in India, ever since they have fallen back..We need to get G-Checked quick!
hey rscrbc yeah sept11 was a very tragic thing that happened and the people that were responsible needs to be punished, but thres was no reaon for to bush attack Iraq. Iraq didnt blow up the towers.In result of the war 140,000 iraqi civilians died. (not terrorists or iraqi soldiers)
but 140,000 civilians. so compare 140,000 killed in iraq
100s of thousands of innocent people killed in afghanistan
to 3,000 killed in sept11. 240,000 to 3,000. i think the real terrorits are people like mccain and bush wage war on anyone does not agree with them, and use the media like fox news or cnn to make(propoganda) lies about the middle east.
I’M SO TIRED OF HEARINGTHISRACESHIT. YEAH I’M WHITE, BUT I NEVERCALLED NO BLACKMAN A NIGGER, OR SUPPORTEDSLAVERY, ETC. NOR DO I ASSOCIATEWITHPEOPLEWHO DO. SO WHY DO I ALWAYSHEARTHIS “YOUDIDTHIS” OR “YOUDIDTHAT” SHIT? ANDLOOKAROUNDYOUMARQUISSADEBUT I SAWQUITE A FEWWHITES AT THEDNC. WHOTHEFUCKCARESHOWMANYWHITEYSTHEREWAS AT THERNCBECAUSETHOSECOCKSUCKAS AREN’T GONNAWINANYWAY! OBAMAFORCHANGE, REMEMBER? BUTHOWCAN WE CHANGE AS A COUNTRY IF PEOPLELIKEYOUWANT TO PLAYTHERACECARDALLTHETIME? VOTEOBAMA 2008
“Understand that wherever your people have showed up death, disease and despair has followed for brown and black people. Understand that I and other blacks today do not blame you directly, but we want you to understand things are not equal and probably never will be.”
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If you actually read it, you wouldn’t have made your comment…And like I said the only group of people who think race doesn’t matter is White people..It’s easy when your in a position of power to say that..Play the race card?? Lol I’m not applying for no job, nor did I get denied..I just spoke the truth..That’s the biggest problem with white males..Your inability to listen, process and accept. And like I said no black person today blames the whites today for anything in the past. Just understand you benefit from being white. The statistics prove that theory. God Bless
That’s the biggest problem with white males..Your inability to listen, process and accept.
there you go right there stereotyping and entire race/gender in one sentence my dude. i’ll even go as far as to agree with you, white people do benefit from the imbalance of economic and social power that has only been reconciled a few short decades ago. but you say how you dont blame white people in particular, but just the race as a whole for atrocities commited in the past? is that not racism? thats like me saying well i dont blame frank lucas for selling heroin on new york city streets, but i blame black people in general for benefitting from some of the positive things he gave back to the community.
and if you want to really get technical, i’m italian which is, whether you like to hear it or not, a minority ethnic group in this country. i also cant trace my family roots because of the rocky history of italy’s origin. do i care? no. do i blame the black tribes or white armies that invaded italy before it was a united country? no. im informed but i dont care, because i dont base my outlook on the people i share this world with on the fucked up racial relations of the past. it matters as much as you make it matter.
my opinion do you know how many hip hop artist are trying to get people out there to vote what does this have to with hip hop? everything basically because of bush and the lame republicans americans lost 84,000 jobs and the unemployment rate jumped up like 5 or 6 percent which means niggas ain’t eating and when niggas ain’t eating nobody has money to buy albums and alotta of people in the industry are going broke because of bush and the lame republicans ie: Dame Dash,Scott Storch and people say Obama has no experience but what exactly has McCain done while he was in the senate?
a community organizer has no responsiblities
funny thing is the community he organized had more people in it than the entire state she governs
and plus that bitches daughter is unmarried and pregnant! republicans and there “family values”
@at (lyrical thought) ive read your response and agree with your logical reasoning behind choosing who to vote 4.The republicans you mentioned should be commended for thier contributions to our society,but on the other hand that was a very long time ago.Now there isnt much I know when it comes to politics. In this short lifetime of mine Ive come to realize that Imma product of Reganomics.Now most ppl think that thats a good thing in general but Regans time in office is parallel to the time crack was introduced to every hood in america.Thats an entirely new discussion on its own.Then in came Bush senior and his term in office was parrallel to the countries first recession inna very long time.Up next would be Bill Clinton who created 5,000,000 new jobs in office which created a booming economy.Now last and the very least which I am sad to say we got this worthless president that we know now as “lil georgy”.I dont think i got enough time to discuss his fuckups.Im not saying Clinton was perfect but his failures pail in comparison to the other 3 Ive mentioned.Whats the difference between Bill and the others?Thats right ppl uve guessed it,hes a democrat.So when it comes to me choosing who to vote 4 and why. I just look back at some of the biggest national disasters which happened in this and to this country while Ive been alive who was in office and if there is a pattern.Now take a look back at the past 30 years.Who was in office and what happened while they were in office?
as much as I want to vote for obahma i cant casue he belives in abortion, and his tax plan is gona tax me to hell sense I make lil over 60k a year this nigga thinks im rich so I guess i gota support all the poor people who didnt want to finsih high school Im not tryn to hate but I dont think it anybody job to support people who didnt want to get there ass out of high school in go to college but my heart wants a black man to win but my belives and my pocket doesnt want obahma to win but we will see in november huh.
I understand your concerns about taxes homie but right now the only thing thats killing me is all these companies that are pawning off the price of gas on thier products and customers ,raising the price on just about everything in this country.And whats the cause of that?I doubt its the federal or state tax rate.Its the fact that were trying to change a couple thousand years of culture over night inna country that doesnt want to be changed.(good lookin out maiquis sade for the mcdonalds wrapper example).Now when it comes to abortion and Obamas view on pro choice look at Mccain’s belief that we have to stay in Iraq so we can “WIN” either way if its abortion its taking a life if its war its taking a life there is no exception to justify either one.It just comes to choosing the lesser of 2 evils so to speak.AT least Obama wants to end this occupation of Iraq,and Mccain wants to prolong it so if mccain doesnt raise taxes how would he pay for that so called war.Which would be easier to pay for?HIgher taxes on our weekly checks without a war or the same taxes with a war which includes higher oil prices higher grocery prices higher gas prices and just a bunch of over priced nessecities in general
I almost 4got 4 those ppl saying that race doesnt matter are failing to realize that about 220 years worth of presidental elections happened before we were given the choice to choose some one for our president that isnt white.Why have we had to wait this long just for a nominee???
I don’t think obhama has enought on the job traning he was a senator or whatever for 19 months and 12 of those months he was running for president. I dont think you can run this country and not ever served it. Im not talking about in office im talking about the miltary. When I was 17 I joined the United States coast guard becuase I wanted to go to college and niggaz with a c averge in high school dont get scholar ships to college. I just fill like if you cant go threw basic traing and wear a uniform that represnts this country then you can’t run the country. Every body saying there aint jobs in shit man fuck that I got a job but I also go a degree so people need to just step there game up or just keep suffering and keep spending that 400 dollar burger king paycheck on gas lol.
but didnt u just post earlier complaining that higher taxes that obama is supposedly offering is gonna affect u negativly???that last post contradicts what u said in the other 1.I have some advice from u to u homie “step your game up” I mean that is if higher taxes would affect a degree holding working man with a 60,000 dollar a year pay check
no disrespect to you homie but why do you have to wear a unifrom to represent the country as president you know how many presidents haven’t worn uniforms that represented example: Bill Clinton i respect all the people that defend the country but just cause you had the uniform on doesn’t make you qualified for president McCain is out of touch with the issues hell i barerly hear him speak on issues all i hear is the POW stories every time he talks you know what McCain thinks somebody that makes 5 Million dollars is middle class and Obama never said he’d raise taxes he only said he’d raise taxes for the wealthy or the people that can afford it
I see why you have this view now… You served in the Armed Forces.
The Military likes to BRAINWASH these young, feeble minds because they are MOLDABLE.
And don’t tell me they don’t… I know this for a fact. I work @ NNMC Bethesda, its run by Marines now and some of the more down to earth brothers I talk to keep it 100. You’ve been bamboozled sir into believing McCain has your interests @ heart.
lol thats the worst post i’ve ever read…Comparing white racism to black racism is comparing apples to oranges..Black racism doesn’t affect your quality of life..Lol you mean to tell me when you go into a job interview majority of the managers are black? Or what about a jury of your supposed peers? lol or how about police officers to a Realtor?? Saying black racism has affectedyour quality of life is, well, kind of far fetched since as a whole we hold no major political and economical clout.
Jesse Jackson Jr. compared Barack Obama to Jackie Robinson.
“Barack Obama is in a situation similar to Jackie Robinson, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.) said Monday at a Politico panel on race and the presidential election. Just as Robinson had to perform well on the field while ignoring racial taunts and refusing to hit back, Obama must do the same, he said.
“No one wants an angry African-American man in the White House,” he said.
Sen. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) expanded on the analogy, adding that Obama’s “got to be able to hit and he’s got to be able to run the bases.”
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“That’s the biggest problem with white males..Your inability to listen, process and accept.”
What I meant by that is those are 3 major malfunctions of the white male. Listen, Process and Accept. If I bring up slavery, you bring up the Holocaust or something else. Than the discussion suddenly becomes “which was worst”??..lol as if it was a contest..That’s the difference “you measure your atrocities by numbers, not by humanity.”
your missing the point guy. im not trying to make an argument for either like you are. i never said black racism was affecting my quality of life, but to say black people hold no major political or economic clout? i mean i guess all the black actors, athletes, rappers, senators, lawyers, judges etc. are all working for free, in a country where oprah is not one of the richest and most powerful women alive. and it’s a shame none of those black celebrities like jay-z or p. diddy have tried to motivate their people politically at all. damn when will your people find a voice? i guess rich and poor african americans never had the political integrity to overcome segrega… oh shit nevermind.
all sarcasm aside, black people have had the disadvantage for years, but i dont think theres ever been a time in this country’s history where there were so many successful black people, and that number is only going to rise.
by the way i knew what you meant about white men, i was merely pointing out your hypocrisy for saying it. thanks for repeating yourself nearly verbatim though, my thick white skull would not allow me to process or accept that information. did i bring up the holocaust? no, so apparently black males are so advanced at processing information that you know exactly what i am or am not thinking before even i do. also, i guess you conveniently forgot about all the latin american and african nations that were involved in the triangle trade, thats right! selling their own people into slavery. you should turn up the volume on the opening line of What’s Beef,
“i was sold to a sick european by a rich african…”
figure id throw in some hip-hop rhetoric for all the people complaining this post had nothing to do with music.
oh yeah and worst post you’ve ever read? coming from a self appointed hip hop message board political theologist who begins his retort with an “lol” …yeah im not too offended. im sure you’ll have some cocky, arrogant, response for this too but im out man. dont expect me to comment again.
for real man. its 2008 now dog nobody is holding any race back. there r plenty of black people with important jobs everywhere man yall can really complain about shit if u want to. just cuz u make somethin up n sound angry about it doesnt make it a fact man. give it up yall, if obama doesnt win u guys r gonna say white people fixed it so he didnt. yall blame us for everything that goes wrong for u n im so fucking tired of it. i mean when im chillin with my white friends we arent always schemin about how to bring the black man down or something. u need to lose that mentality. to b honest i think there r way more blacks racist against whites than whites against blacks. presidential races should not even have actual racial issues involved there r way bigger things in this country then that
" If I bring up slavery, you bring up the Holocaust or something else."~ME
“by the way i knew what you meant about white men, i was merely pointing out your hypocrisy for saying it. thanks for repeating yourself nearly verbatim though, my thick white skull would not allow me to process or accept that information. did i bring up the holocaust? no, so apparently black males are so advanced at processing information that you know exactly what i am or am not thinking before even i do. also, i guess you conveniently forgot about all the latin american and african nations that were involved in the triangle trade, thats right! selling their own people into slavery. you should turn up the volume on the opening line of What’s Beef,
""i was sold to a sick european by a rich african…""
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@Caps
lol thank you for proving my point..
And you if you read my previous post I speak about how some of the most prominent blacks have to go through white hands to get their and unfortunately stay in that zone..Oprah build a school in Africa! Instead of Chicago!?? LMBAO..Bad point on your part..
Like I said “Inability to Listen, Process and Accept”..
Lol once again, comparing black racism to white racism is comical. Yes blacks and latino brothers sold each other into slavery, but it didn’t result in the most powerful and rich nation on the face of the planet!! And it didn’t continue until 1965! LMBAO
" i was just saying that a barack could be like the black George bush and you would’ve voted for him cause hes black?"
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lol nice try but we’ve had plenty of black George Bush’s…Alan Keys(google him) and any other black male Republican that Fox News sends to do their dirty work..Juan Williams(Google him)…Barack is not the black George Bush and that’s obvious.Lt. Governor Michael Steele(my personal favorite, such a little bitch)….See when black people say their voting for Barack because he is black, its meaning is more than a skin color. It means who’s next..Someone has got to be next. Barack getting in means an Asian president is possible, A latino anything is possible. Some people aren’t ready for that unfortunately.
“19 percent of Democratic voters in West Virginia will vote Republican this year..They cite Barack’s race as a problem”
have you seen the Youtube video where they interview whites in WV to get their take on Obama? Disgusting is too nice of a word to express how I feel about it.
With the Shit Bush Has put This Country though the past 8 years and John McCain being cool with Bush Policies I’m Starting to feel like If U vote for Mc Cain U R Kinda Prejudiced against Blacks I know It’s a harsh comment but Just let It Set In My Shortie is white and her parents r republican they dont like what bush did but they aint gon vote for a black man It’s sad we still let race play that big of a role. Aint shit gon Change with McCain in Office I’m Voting Obama But Based Of what’s Happened in the past McCain Might Win. I Really Hope not cause some Country gon blow this bitch Up The End IZ Definitely Near
to outtaspace: dude thats the fucking dumbest thing ive ever heard. r u seriously just voting for obama cuz hes black? i mean is that all u care about? do u even give a shit about what he actually stands for? he says hes all about change but im still tryin to figure out what the change is besides his race. im not gonna vote for obama, not cuz im white n i dont wanna black prez, but cuz i DONTWANT A FUCKINGCOMMUNIST!!! i dont wanna give everyone else my fucking money. thats what hes gonna do. i mean if ur poor then im sure ur all for him but im middle class n my parents r lookin at a 40% income tax on the 70k they make. which means even tho they make 70k they only get 40? what the fuck is that about? u say u want obama for change, but what the fuck does he plan to change? HE HASNEVERMENTIONEDTHAT! everyone on this site is rediculously ignorant n frankly yall r racist. this is a white kid calling u all racist. for one, just bcuz ur voting for obama cuz hes black which i understand but think about how racist that is… n for everyone sayin that voting for mccain is racist… ignorance scared me more than either of these presidents. i hope none of u go vote cuz the only ppl that should b allowed to vote r ppl that r actually educated about what each candidate stands for n not just cuz of the color of their skin or because bush is republican. grow up people, this is important shit way more important than having a black president just because u want one. there will b plenty more for u guys in the future im sure… n for the record i would vote for condeleeza AND i WASGONNAVOTEFOROBAMA until i found out he is a SOCIALIST / COMMUNIST. sorry yall aint gettin the money i earned.
….and with your statements made its more than obvious that you do not know the FACTS about Obama’s tax policies so you are about as ignorant as the people you claim to be.
The “HE HASNEVERMENTIONEDTHAT” shows your bias to the FACTS.. Where do you get your world news from? FOXNEWS?
no i dont watch any of those news channels i get my shit from unbias news radio in bmore u prolly dont get it wherever u r. im not sayin im voting for mccain im not voting for anyone. and yes that is exactly his tax plan do ur homework. n can u please tell me what this “change” obama keeps talking about actually is? cuz besides the color of his skin, i dont c much change in his policies or anything else political. im just trying to tell yall that u shouldnt b voting for obama just cuz hes black. im sorry i have no right to say that, and trust me im not racist at all i mean im on fucking defsound every day, but i just want everyone to actually do their homework n vote for the person that best fits their viewpoints on everything. look at obamas voting record on shit that was brought to the senate. look what he has and has not voted for. its kinda disturbing that people r on his dick like this but dont really kno the truth about him. thats all im sayin. i dont wanna democrat republ battle, black or white, anything like that, i just want a president that actually cares about the people. neither of these 2 fucks r that at all. n no i dont watch fox news douche bag where do u get ur news from CNN?
the whole socialist/communist argument is what every republican relies on when talking about obama and speaking of homework (Mos real420)if u had done yours obama is talking about raising taxes of the ppl who fall in the 250,000 a year tax bracket which leaves your parents about 130,000 a year short homie,now if your parents average 35,000 each they would be getting a tax break
n ill debate u for real idk where we would go about doing that, but im down as long as u dont act stubborn n r open minded about shit, n consider/ kno the facts. n ill double check that obama tax plan shit right now but if im right im postin it right here on this motherfucker. n ill go to an unbiased news source.
side note, when did defsounds become political sounds lol im takin a break for some music hold up…
to mostreal420 i aint got time to get all into this debate but did u read what i said or skem through it i never said im voting Obama cuz he black i believe in him his policies and what he si think u stands for I work all day son so i dont be all on the cpu 2 chat stop half ass reading and comprehend what i wrote i think u was high when u wrote ur shit fuck outta here my girl white she voting Obama not cuz he black but because of the things he’s gonna change all that shit u typing dont mean u know what the fuck u talkin bout walk down my blocks(Baltimore) bitch and u will fully understand why im voting Obama and he aint all black anyway we suppose to be talkin bout real issues but u tyna call me out yo fuck u word up u got me confused with somebody else shit. Bush stupid ignorant ad got the reading level of a 5th grader i aint gotta break down all he policies check out the war 911 katrina get real u in a household making 70k bitch try 25k then we can talk both canidates gonna promise shit but it all aint gon happen its politics get use 2 it u most b a first time voter or young boy none of the people over here run this land anyway do YOURKNOWLEDGEASSHOLE u dont know shit bout real racism u just type alot
Honestly let’s not get fooled by the Gimmicks, for your own Info Politics invited the word gimmicks sonn. McCain is a Joke, the only reason he picked Sarah Palin, well beside she must got crazy head game, hell rumors are popin off that she had some affair with some dude for years (no doubt I’d fuck her). But real talk, McCain picked this chick: 1) to try & gather old white women votes aka Hillary stans. 2) because he needs a yes man (well in this case a yes woman), a person he can push around & bully, do you think she will question his methods of thoughs? Hell No!…now if he picked Mitt Romney you know duke will question big John if shit ain’t feeling right.
And as far as this Sarah V.P.MILF goes, Its not a good look when the public know more about your personal business before they even know exactly where you stand politically. She has lost ½ of the battle, all I’ve heard about Sarah is she has 5 bad ass kids, and that one of them got knocked up. At the time of her speech, she’d already been dragged through the mud; health care/sex ed cuts-both of which her daughter could’ve def benefitted from.
And we all know Joe Buddens oooops I mean Bidden will eat her up (not literaly that’s McCain’s Job) when they debate,…Oh my God I can’t wait for this ish…and lest say McCain wins the republicans forget that if somebody bodies McCain or Lord forbids he kicks the bucket or whatever, Sarah would become president by default DAAAAANM right…. Aint McCain like 250 years old or something?.
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My people came here on a boat and everything we got we worked hard to get. when I hear an asshole say Obama need on the job training,it put me in the mind of a white rehabalitated dope head who parent knows somebody and somebody knows a person that can give this idiot a job managing over a group people that knows the position better than this moron does.We as african-american will change the out look of this country for better or for worst,but we will make it to the promise land. this is our time to shine,rise up and be proud of who we are and were we came from my african-american family.We are and will always be SOMEBODY.!!!!!!!!errrrrrrrrrrworf
CHANGE!!!!!!! WE WANTCHANGE!!!!!! LOL change? why do we still fuck with the same two parties? lol am i the only one that sees this shit….. hello hes not the only black person running
“I’m not gonna vote for anybody just ‘cause they black or Latino they have to truly represent the community and represent what’s good for all of us proletariat.”
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but on a serious note, you really can’t just blame republicans for this shit. Unfortunately thats polotics in america today. Both sides do it, and the entire process of running for president becomes less and less relevant to the issues every 4 years. Hopefully the best candidate will win and change that.
I encourage everybody to go out and vote. If you like obama, mccain, or even ross perot, go out and vote for your candidate.
I think McCain picked Palin for all the wrong reasons. I think it was a strategic move, to try and pull Hillary supporters away from Obama, but we have to all ask ourselves if something happens to McCain is Palin a good choice for President? That is what McCain should have been asking himself, and if he did he would never have made that choice. Also her personal stuff is gonna be a detriment to the G.O.P. I’m democrat, voting for Obama (really voting not just talking). PEACE Come check out The Livin’ Large Morning Show w/ Bobby Livin’, and Tony Large Sundays 11am-1pm EST at www.clubmegamix.com. You’ll like it. We go on LIVE TODAY!!
keep this mcCain and Palin shit outta the white house!
Yeah I Know What You Mean Politicans Tear Each Other Up In Debate Then When Its Over They Shake Hands And Move On Just Like The End Of a Battle
Obama 08
Education reform doesn’t matter?
What does this really have to do with hip-hop?
Was the comparison not clear enough?
And Education Reform. What the fuck did they say? “We believe in what the kids learn instead of liberal propaganda that puts the needs of the teachers first.”
They’re on PCP to have to balls to say that. Teachers as a whole don’t make shit, especially for what they do, budgets keep getting cut form education but get inflated on state budgets for other things like … not educating our children which means … our state faces a threat when we’re not raising informed citizens who are capable of deducing and VOTING on issues.
And they said nothing about their PLANS for education reform.
PLUS. Those muh’fugga’s were talking about change, like they’re presenting the ticket for change … like they weren’t running shit for the past 8 years?
And all this about a do nothing senate, it’s only been democrat for 2 years. Which means the other 6 years nothing was getting done … kn’amsaying.
I’m sorry but music can take a back burner on effing … who … is going to be … the president … of our country … for the next 4 years.
No offense.
But.
Kn’amsaying.
It could be the difference between whether or not we exist.
KIR
Keep It Real.
ST. PAUL, Minn. – Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.
Some examples:
PALIN: “I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending … and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress ‘thanks but no thanks’ for that Bridge to Nowhere.”
THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a “bridge to nowhere.”
PALIN: “There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it’s easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate.”
THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.
PALIN: “The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars.”
THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama’s plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain’s plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.
Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.
He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.
MCCAIN: “She’s been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America’s energy supply … She’s responsible for 20 percent of the nation’s energy supply. I’m entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America,” he said in an interview with ABC News’ Charles Gibson.
THE FACTS: McCain’s phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she’s no more “responsible” for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.
MCCAIN: “She’s the commander of the Alaska National Guard. … She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities,” he said on ABC.
THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under “federal status,” which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska’s national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.
FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin “got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States.”
THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor’s election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.
FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: “We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin.”
THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.
Wow! It’s funny how history can repeat itself and sometimes people are too naive to realize it. I can think back in history about a leader once who was so much similar before he was in a position of power. He too gave extremely charismatic speeches and motivated the people emotionally for dramatic change. He too had the right media propaganda and the people loved him. The people wanted dramatic change and that’s what he constantly spoke about but just like Obama he never explained exactly what he meant or how he’d make the changes. This leader also was involved with a seperatist movement in his past and his country was going through a depression. He also wrote a book about his world views and also had his own “little symbol”. On top of that, people thought he was a Messiah too. I guess Adolf Hitler did make a lot of changes.
Think DS think. She’s governor of Alaska. Alaska = oil.
please go out and vote, especially if you live in a key state (ohio, florida, penn, wyoming, north dakota, illonois, etc.)
I’d fuck!!!!
Repeatedly.
Ignorance.
How many people on this website support McCain? Okay. Now using elimination, how many people support Obama?
Alright, now how many people know about what Obama and McCain are trying to do to this country? (ie. changes they’re bringing) How many people even watched the Democratic and Republican Party Conventions?
I bet you if Obama didn’t appear black, then many blacks would NOT vote for him. I’m not trying to hate or anything, because how am I suppose to hate on the candidate I support? But forreal when’s the last time you looked up the differences between the two campaigns. Fuck being the first black president, I want a GOOD president. Ignore the color, read before you make choices.
What if Obama wins, but he only won because he got many black votes? Then, he fucks up the country. You know who fucked up? Not him, we did. The fucking voters who amended the delegates’ decisions. There’s a time to listen to hip-hop artists talking their ‘ish about voting for Obama for “change,” and there’s a time to READ (yeah I said it) about the change.
Yeah and when you wanna talk about politics, don’t just copy and paste shit you got from the Associated Press (Lyricalthought, no offense). Because the statements you posted actually aren’t all lies. They just over exaggerated some shit to move the people. But this is politics, you have to attack somehow to win. I don’t think I have EVER read any posters talk about actual politics and debate-points on this website (correct me if I’m wrong).
Don’t vote for Obama because “he’s black, I’m black, why not?!” Don’t try to front either because that’s probably the first thing people think when they think about Obama, I’m no exceptions. Vote for him because you made an educated decision, not on that ignorant shit.
I support Obama, but not for the wrong reasons. A lot of people can make good speeches, so don’t depend on that. You wouldn’t vote for Hitler would you?
What are you talking about, “blowing up the world?” wtf. If you’re talking about the war in the middle-east, it’s a war against terrorism. Remember what happened during 9/11, yeah that terrorism. The one that killed 3000 innocent civilians.
I just thought it was funny how they categorically stated things, and rephrased comments so when I read that article that I posted I thought it would be a good way to get the topic moving….
But none the less, you made some really good points Props
Well, the war was originally against terrorism when it began, the criticism is within what it’s become. I’m just trying to make a point against the guy who said McCain just wanted to blow up the world…
Unless you agree that he does, then that’s a new argument.
As for the war “on terror” even the bush administration admitted they were wrong when they associated terrorism with Iraq…
aside from that, i mostly agree with what you have to say…always keep your mind open….Never Ignorant Gettin Goals Accomplished
I commend you for being proud of who your voting for,
But Im leery at your reasoning.
Being a democrat means nothing, just because their democrats dosent mean they will do whats right for the country or whats right for us.
Remember it was a Republican that came up with Public assistance, it was the republicans who abolished slavery, it was the republicans who fixed the economy after world war I.
Dont vote for somebody for race or for political party, Vote for them because you agree with their goals and views for America.
For Example, Im voting for Obama because he has touched and said he will focus on the issues that affect me such as..
College tuition
The Economy
Social Security
Health Insurance-Which I dont have
Gas Prices (New Energy Plan Moving away from Feul)
the perception of America around the world
Moving away from the massive tax breaks that people making 250,000 or more receive and giving those tax breaks to the lower bracket salaries
Those are some of the things that he plans to focus on, and those are the that effect me.
Meanwhile from what I’ve heard and seen, McCain wants Offshore Drilling (although Obama did agree with that smh)
Does not want to improve the wages for teachers
Wants to Cut the amount of financial Aid College students can receive
Beleives that if you give the richer people the biggest tax breaks it will have a trickle down effect (Thats been the plan for 8 years and clearly it hasnt worked smh)
Wants to send more people to Iraq
Does not Support Aboriton (Im Pro Choice)
Does not support gay marriage (Let God Judge them we have no right)
And is known to Sleep with Lobbyist, and make backdoor deals that will help him while hurting the country.
Why don’t you guys look up the sex scandal he had with the communications Lobbyist
yes is a wonderful thing that a minority could possibly become president, but if he’s gonna mess everything up for us, i’m not voting for him. AND YES I’M BLACK. I would vote for a white guy who is a good candidate before a vote for a black who is a horrible candidate ANYDAY IN A HEARTBEAT.
do you realize how important the president’s job is? are you really ignorant enough to put someone in that position JUST because he’s a minority? so if he’s a crackhead but he’s black we shoud vote him in. PEOPLE PLEASE THINK, YOU’RE MAKING MINORITIES AND HIP HOP HEADS LOOK BAD, YOU PROVING THE STEREOTYPES CORRECT!!!
by the way, i’m voting for Obama.
To my Hispanic brothers, it’s so sad that you guys always sympathize with us, say your “one of us” and all that ish…Drop the N-word, listen to our music, jock our slang, but soon as someone mentions that hispanics have african blood your heads spin around in disgust. Sad Obama won’t win the hispanic vote, but then again you guys are “one of us”..
Sarah Palin is an idiot..Her daughter is a hoe and the only reason I call her a hoe is because if that was Michelle Obama’s daughter we would’ve heard about how “unwed black mothers giving birth in this country is an epidemic” But when white folks do it “it’s a tragedy and oh don’t worry their going to get married” Get the fuck outta here. SOrta like Malcom X was “revolting” but what ya’ll did in 1776 was a “revolution”…I can’t believe we will elect trash but the black family has to be the god-damn huxtibles and still people have doubts…Ya’ll ain’t hearin me this afternoon.
Cindy Mccain is a pill-popping junkie. When someone in her non-profit organization outed her to her husband, press and authorities they were fired..She doesn’t even acknowledge that she has siblings for christ sake! but has a couple of half-brothers and sisters…
And so what John Mccain was a P.O.W., I respect his service, but you “chose” to sign up and you knew the risks, so you shouldn’t get special treatment.
As someone who’s worked for Republicans and Democrats, there are evils in both. But the republicans are hypocrites. I used to kick it with a representatives son and that boy was out of his fucking mind. Pills, Alcohol, weed, coke, all in one night?! Damn nigga space it out or something..Then not to mention the mom was a complete whore and one the kids wasn’t his and he didn’t even know..I’m done fuck MCcain, Palin and all those who are not voting for Obama..You ain’t making 250,000k a year and voting republican?? kill yourself!
unemployment at a 5 year high 6.1 percent!!
Discrimination is one of the key components into why their is a recession today..The Housing Market.
A black man with a college degree has the same chances as a white man with a felony. And we are getting our asses kicked on the technology front..All men are not created equal and the education system proves that daily. The republicans try kicking knowledge with that bullshit “charter” school non-sense..Instead of paying money for busing, so a kid in lower income area can go to a better school, how about you just use that funding to fix the school in his area!!!!!!!! Nope but that’s too fucking easy! The whole point is that b/s manifesto “all men are created equal” is not true. Your people preach, practice and live it everyday.
Malcom X was once asked by a white female on the steps of Harvard University
“what can I do to further your cause”
Malcom replied “nothing”
I respect you and your family for its decency, but you are one white family out of millions who don’t see Barack as equal. Sad but true. And the white people who do see him as equal ask the question “why can’t all blacks be like him” as if being black is some type of lifestyle..Either way race matters always. Barack shouldn’t have the burden of being called “post-racial”..Lol all those white politicians that black people have voted been called “post-racial”??? I think not..Even when you don’t mean too, you still do and always remember the “people with the best intentions, commit the worst atrocities”. Racism is one of them.
Understand that wherever your people have showed up death, disease and despair has followed for brown and black people. Understand that I and other blacks today do not blame you directly, but we want you to understand things are not equal and probably never will be. We are a people with “30-day tags” because this is not our permanent residence. We are lost in the wilderness known as America. Brought here unwillingly.
While most blacks today don’t have grand-parents who were slaves, they were most likely share-croppers which was “slavery”, still under Jim Crow laws. Don’t get me wrong, there were black hotels, nightclubs, businesses owned and operated by blacks all through the 1920’s, 30’s,40’s,50’s and 60’s but when desegregation happened, we suddenly, over night had to play by “your” rules. Building permits, zoning codes, fire hazards. Get where i’m going with this..Boarded up buildings in every city in America that has been standing since the 60’s most likely at one point was a happening night-spot black owned..Due to ill preparation post segregation that went to shit quick.
MLK gave his speech on August 28th, 1963. Not even a month later on Sept. 15th 1963, 4 little beautiful black girls were killed in a bombing..
MLK said " I feel like I’m integrating my people into a burning building"
Well Mr. King there’s an inferno.
I don’t mean to disrespect the wonderful people of the service. Disproportionately minorities, but man sometimes that shit ain’t our place. Yeh some of these politicians have family members in the service but I guarantee it’s not in combat!!! How man politicians son’s die out of 4500 or so?? Anyone?? My point exactly..They sit back and collect all the fucking money why we doing all the dirty work…I hope China or North Korea puts a motherfuckin dent in America sometimes so we can become England and realize you can’t just set up your ideals and influence anywhere you please..England got a wake up call in India, ever since they have fallen back..We need to get G-Checked quick!
but 140,000 civilians. so compare 140,000 killed in iraq
100s of thousands of innocent people killed in afghanistan
to 3,000 killed in sept11. 240,000 to 3,000. i think the real terrorits are people like mccain and bush wage war on anyone does not agree with them, and use the media like fox news or cnn to make(propoganda) lies about the middle east.
-————————————————————————————————————————If you actually read it, you wouldn’t have made your comment…And like I said the only group of people who think race doesn’t matter is White people..It’s easy when your in a position of power to say that..Play the race card?? Lol I’m not applying for no job, nor did I get denied..I just spoke the truth..That’s the biggest problem with white males..Your inability to listen, process and accept. And like I said no black person today blames the whites today for anything in the past. Just understand you benefit from being white. The statistics prove that theory. God Bless
there you go right there stereotyping and entire race/gender in one sentence my dude. i’ll even go as far as to agree with you, white people do benefit from the imbalance of economic and social power that has only been reconciled a few short decades ago. but you say how you dont blame white people in particular, but just the race as a whole for atrocities commited in the past? is that not racism? thats like me saying well i dont blame frank lucas for selling heroin on new york city streets, but i blame black people in general for benefitting from some of the positive things he gave back to the community.
and if you want to really get technical, i’m italian which is, whether you like to hear it or not, a minority ethnic group in this country. i also cant trace my family roots because of the rocky history of italy’s origin. do i care? no. do i blame the black tribes or white armies that invaded italy before it was a united country? no. im informed but i dont care, because i dont base my outlook on the people i share this world with on the fucked up racial relations of the past. it matters as much as you make it matter.
funny thing is the community he organized had more people in it than the entire state she governs
and plus that bitches daughter is unmarried and pregnant! republicans and there “family values”
Read people. Read.
The Military likes to BRAINWASH these young, feeble minds because they are MOLDABLE.
And don’t tell me they don’t… I know this for a fact. I work @ NNMC Bethesda, its run by Marines now and some of the more down to earth brothers I talk to keep it 100. You’ve been bamboozled sir into believing McCain has your interests @ heart.
lol thats the worst post i’ve ever read…Comparing white racism to black racism is comparing apples to oranges..Black racism doesn’t affect your quality of life..Lol you mean to tell me when you go into a job interview majority of the managers are black? Or what about a jury of your supposed peers? lol or how about police officers to a Realtor?? Saying black racism has affectedyour quality of life is, well, kind of far fetched since as a whole we hold no major political and economical clout.
Jesse Jackson Jr. compared Barack Obama to Jackie Robinson.
“Barack Obama is in a situation similar to Jackie Robinson, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.) said Monday at a Politico panel on race and the presidential election. Just as Robinson had to perform well on the field while ignoring racial taunts and refusing to hit back, Obama must do the same, he said.
“No one wants an angry African-American man in the White House,” he said.
Sen. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) expanded on the analogy, adding that Obama’s “got to be able to hit and he’s got to be able to run the bases.”
-———————————————————————————————“That’s the biggest problem with white males..Your inability to listen, process and accept.”
What I meant by that is those are 3 major malfunctions of the white male. Listen, Process and Accept. If I bring up slavery, you bring up the Holocaust or something else. Than the discussion suddenly becomes “which was worst”??..lol as if it was a contest..That’s the difference “you measure your atrocities by numbers, not by humanity.”
all sarcasm aside, black people have had the disadvantage for years, but i dont think theres ever been a time in this country’s history where there were so many successful black people, and that number is only going to rise.
by the way i knew what you meant about white men, i was merely pointing out your hypocrisy for saying it. thanks for repeating yourself nearly verbatim though, my thick white skull would not allow me to process or accept that information. did i bring up the holocaust? no, so apparently black males are so advanced at processing information that you know exactly what i am or am not thinking before even i do. also, i guess you conveniently forgot about all the latin american and african nations that were involved in the triangle trade, thats right! selling their own people into slavery. you should turn up the volume on the opening line of What’s Beef,
“i was sold to a sick european by a rich african…”
figure id throw in some hip-hop rhetoric for all the people complaining this post had nothing to do with music.
oh yeah and worst post you’ve ever read? coming from a self appointed hip hop message board political theologist who begins his retort with an “lol” …yeah im not too offended. im sure you’ll have some cocky, arrogant, response for this too but im out man. dont expect me to comment again.
peace.
Vote Obama!
“by the way i knew what you meant about white men, i was merely pointing out your hypocrisy for saying it. thanks for repeating yourself nearly verbatim though, my thick white skull would not allow me to process or accept that information. did i bring up the holocaust? no, so apparently black males are so advanced at processing information that you know exactly what i am or am not thinking before even i do. also, i guess you conveniently forgot about all the latin american and african nations that were involved in the triangle trade, thats right! selling their own people into slavery. you should turn up the volume on the opening line of What’s Beef,
""i was sold to a sick european by a rich african…""
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lol thank you for proving my point..
And you if you read my previous post I speak about how some of the most prominent blacks have to go through white hands to get their and unfortunately stay in that zone..Oprah build a school in Africa! Instead of Chicago!?? LMBAO..Bad point on your part..
Like I said “Inability to Listen, Process and Accept”..
God Bless
fact.
Ronald Regan, the Republicans wet dream for a president was very inexperienced being an actor in hollywood.
5 of the worst presidents have the most experience.
The Improbable Quest by John K Wilson..Read It
" i was just saying that a barack could be like the black George bush and you would’ve voted for him cause hes black?"
-—————————————————————lol nice try but we’ve had plenty of black George Bush’s…Alan Keys(google him) and any other black male Republican that Fox News sends to do their dirty work..Juan Williams(Google him)…Barack is not the black George Bush and that’s obvious.Lt. Governor Michael Steele(my personal favorite, such a little bitch)….See when black people say their voting for Barack because he is black, its meaning is more than a skin color. It means who’s next..Someone has got to be next. Barack getting in means an Asian president is possible, A latino anything is possible. Some people aren’t ready for that unfortunately.
“19 percent of Democratic voters in West Virginia will vote Republican this year..They cite Barack’s race as a problem”
Source: The Improbable Quest-John K. Wilson
The “HE HAS NEVER MENTIONED THAT” shows your bias to the FACTS.. Where do you get your world news from? FOX NEWS?
If anyone wants to have a debate on this political shit holla @ me we can do it.
side note, when did defsounds become political sounds lol im takin a break for some music hold up…
BLACK WALLSTREET BITCH!!!
And as far as this Sarah V.P.MILF goes, Its not a good look when the public know more about your personal business before they even know exactly where you stand politically. She has lost ½ of the battle, all I’ve heard about Sarah is she has 5 bad ass kids, and that one of them got knocked up. At the time of her speech, she’d already been dragged through the mud; health care/sex ed cuts-both of which her daughter could’ve def benefitted from.
And we all know Joe Buddens oooops I mean Bidden will eat her up (not literaly that’s McCain’s Job) when they debate,…Oh my God I can’t wait for this ish…and lest say McCain wins the republicans forget that if somebody bodies McCain or Lord forbids he kicks the bucket or whatever, Sarah would become president by default DAAAAANM right…. Aint McCain like 250 years old or something?.
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Vote for some real freedom, open your eyes up, vote RON PAUL.
TIME IS RUNNING UP TO REGISTER, SO PLEASE REGISTER SOON!
OBAMA 08…IT’S TIME FOR A CHANGE.
Vote Obama!!
- Immortal Technique