Republican National Convention: Battle rappers or legitimate politicians?
I’m not sure about how I feel about this whole RNC
business.On one hand, I had the
shit scared out of me by 15,000 white folks in Minnesota chanting “Drill, Baby, Drill,”
without really considering the affect it might have on this fragile little
thing we live on called OUR PLANET.
On the other, I felt like I saw into the future, and it made
me cry.The way these folks were running
their mouths, Defsounds, I would’ve sworn it was you.Instead of focusing on issues and the plans
they have to turn the economy around, create more jobs, how the “tax-breaks”
might help out everybody instead of … a certain few … they went in on the stuff
that didn’t matter.
Now, to make this more concrete, I’d like to point out a
member under the alias of Marquise de Sade, who has brought up some things to
think about on different articles.And
how when people disagreed with him (instead of saying I disagree and saying why),
they’d say things like “You use the n-word a lot,” … when that has nothing to
do with what he was saying.
So imagine the Republicans doing that same “Well, your ideas
are good so let me talk about the shit that’d make the crowd go crazy" thing. Change
the Republicans into rappers and change RNC to Scribble Jam ’08, and then
listen to some MC’s talk about having served in the military, been a POW,
commitment to the country, no-holds-barred approach to politics, and their family
values.Fasho.The crowd is going wild.
Then, imagine that one rapper goes so far as to say the
difference between her and a four-legged beast is: (drum roll please) …
lipstick.Wow.Girl’s got punchlines.She’s like Canibus on aircrafts that take off
and land vertically.
....then came the line of the night!
"I guess
a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer - except that you have
actual responsibilities.”
Oh.SHIT.Did she just say that?I was visiting my mommy, posted in her living
room, trying to spend some quality time eating Cheez-Its, and Palin came with
THAT.Wow.The crowd went nuts, as they often do in
battles, even when it’s f***ed up.I
threw my box at the TV like “She’s sick!!”
But then the dust settled, and I had a few seconds to
reflect on why that was F-star-star-star-ed up.Translated into English from the Republican language of
not-so-subtle-shit-talking, Palin and every body else was basically saying “M#((erF$*!$ like Dr. King
and Ghandi and Mother Theresa and every one else that has ever tried to make a
difference in the world—and have actually succeeded—did nothing.”
Wow.She’s a beast on the
mic.She’s like a pitbull.With lipstick.
fuck your first bullshit!!!
but on a serious note, you really can't just blame republicans for this shit. Unfortunately thats polotics in america today. Both sides do it, and the entire process of running for president becomes less and less relevant to the issues every 4 years. Hopefully the best candidate will win and change that.
I encourage everybody to go out and vote. If you like obama, mccain, or even ross perot, go out and vote for your candidate.
Yo,
I think McCain picked Palin for all the wrong reasons. I think it was a strategic move, to try and pull Hillary supporters away from Obama, but we have to all ask ourselves if something happens to McCain is Palin a good choice for President? That is what McCain should have been asking himself, and if he did he would never have made that choice. Also her personal stuff is gonna be a detriment to the G.O.P. I'm democrat, voting for Obama (really voting not just talking). PEACE Come check out The Livin' Large Morning Show w/ Bobby Livin', and Tony Large Sundays 11am-1pm EST at www.clubmegamix.com. You'll like it. We go on LIVE TODAY!!
i cant believe people r actually talking politics on ds. u guys make me fucking sick, n make me laugh at the same time. first of all, dont blame mccain on what bush has done, n actually heres a funny little fact for u guys to think about: obama actually voted WITH bush MORE THAT MCCAIN HAS in the last 4 years. obamas vice pres, joe biden, has been in washington for 35 years. SOME CHANGE HUH? he talks about wanting to change washington n have a new face n all that bullshit when in reality his vp is the fucking problem in washington. another thing for yall ignorant folks to thinka bout: obamas nice cool "tax break" he has planned for everyone actually involves taxing the middle class a fuck load more than mccain. in total, obama pretty much is planning to turn this into a communist nation. if u dont kno what that means, basically all the money i make will b split with everyone else. fuck that. i work hard for my money n none of yall deserve what i work hard for if u dont work for anything n just expect someone to drop a check in ur hand. one more thing. leave sarah palins child THE FUCK ALONE. WHO FUCKING CARES IF SHES PREGNANT!!!! what do u think she told her to go out n get knocked up? no. she probably told her not to have sex but guess what, how many times did u do the exact opposite of what ur parents told u as a teen? jesus fucking christ people get brainwashed n get all tied up in the commotion without realizing the big picture. please, before yall go vote if u do which im not cuz i hate both candidates, please god think of the big picture. dont vote for obama just cuz hes black n u r too that would b the fucking dumbest reason. seriously, think of the affect its gonna have on ur country. read about what they actualy stand for and what that actualy means. as i read everyones comments on here i get more n more scared n yet it makes me laugh n get mad so much.
i cant believe people r actually talking politics on ds. u guys make me fucking sick, n make me laugh at the same time. first of all, dont blame mccain on what bush has done, n actually heres a funny little fact for u guys to think about: obama actually voted WITH bush MORE THAT MCCAIN HAS in the last 4 years. obamas vice pres, joe biden, has been in washington for 35 years. SOME CHANGE HUH? he talks about wanting to change washington n have a new face n all that bullshit when in reality his vp is the fucking problem in washington. another thing for yall ignorant folks to thinka bout: obamas nice cool "tax break" he has planned for everyone actually involves taxing the middle class a fuck load more than mccain. in total, obama pretty much is planning to turn this into a communist nation. if u dont kno what that means, basically all the money i make will b split with everyone else. fuck that. i work hard for my money n none of yall deserve what i work hard for if u dont work for anything n just expect someone to drop a check in ur hand. one more thing. leave sarah palins child THE FUCK ALONE. WHO FUCKING CARES IF SHES PREGNANT!!!! what do u think she told her to go out n get knocked up? no. she probably told her not to have sex but guess what, how many times did u do the exact opposite of what ur parents told u as a teen? jesus fucking christ people get brainwashed n get all tied up in the commotion without realizing the big picture. please, before yall go vote if u do which im not cuz i hate both candidates, please god think of the big picture. dont vote for obama just cuz hes black n u r too that would b the fucking dumbest reason. seriously, think of the affect its gonna have on ur country. read about what they actualy stand for and what that actualy means. as i read everyones comments on here i get more n more scared n yet it makes me laugh n get mad so much.
Lmao. Are you smoking crack?
Was the comparison not clear enough?
And Education Reform. What the fuck did they say? "We believe in what the kids learn instead of liberal propaganda that puts the needs of the teachers first."
They're on PCP to have to balls to say that. Teachers as a whole don't make shit, especially for what they do, budgets keep getting cut form education but get inflated on state budgets for other things like ... not educating our children which means ... our state faces a threat when we're not raising informed citizens who are capable of deducing and VOTING on issues.
And they said nothing about their PLANS for education reform.
PLUS. Those muh'fugga's were talking about change, like they're presenting the ticket for change ... like they weren't running shit for the past 8 years?
And all this about a do nothing senate, it's only been democrat for 2 years. Which means the other 6 years nothing was getting done ... kn'amsaying.
And even if it has less to do with hip hop than you're used to.
I'm sorry but music can take a back burner on effing ... who ... is going to be ... the president ... of our country ... for the next 4 years.
No offense.
But.
Kn'amsaying.
It could be the difference between whether or not we exist.
hip-hop's definition is knowledge in action... ask KRS-One. Knowing about the goings-on of our country is as much hip-hop, and even more in my honest opinion than knowin how many phantoms weezy wanted to let us know he has... (or any other rapper for that matter)
KIR
Keep It Real.
ST. PAUL, Minn. - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.
Some examples:
PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."
THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."
PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate."
THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.
PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."
THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.
Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.
He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.
MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply ... She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.
THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.
MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. ... She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.
THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.
FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."
THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.
FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."
THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.
Yeah! Obama 08. Obama's charismatic and on rise during his country's economic decline. He caters to the emotion of young people incredibly well too. I mean save logic for the few, right? He has all the right media propaganda (95% of our media being controlled by liberals helps him a lot). Obama has his own little symbol, wrote a book about his world views, and some people actually think he's a Messiah (seriously, I'm not kidding). He was involved with a seperatist movement for 20 years(called Black Liberation Theology), and speaks of CHANGE but doesn't clarify it (unless it's through more government control).
Wow! It's funny how history can repeat itself and sometimes people are too naive to realize it. I can think back in history about a leader once who was so much similar before he was in a position of power. He too gave extremely charismatic speeches and motivated the people emotionally for dramatic change. He too had the right media propaganda and the people loved him. The people wanted dramatic change and that's what he constantly spoke about but just like Obama he never explained exactly what he meant or how he'd make the changes. This leader also was involved with a seperatist movement in his past and his country was going through a depression. He also wrote a book about his world views and also had his own "little symbol". On top of that, people thought he was a Messiah too. I guess Adolf Hitler did make a lot of changes.
Alot of people are wondering why McCain would pick this nobody governor anyway. The hillary voter arguement is tired, seeing as though there are other female governors in other states.
Think DS think. She's governor of Alaska. Alaska = oil.
please go out and vote, especially if you live in a key state (ohio, florida, penn, wyoming, north dakota, illonois, etc.)
don't forget that Palin lied about the bridge to no where and she's getting investigated for ethics Republicans stay lying seriously how can anybody vote for them
How many people on this website support McCain? Okay. Now using elimination, how many people support Obama?
Alright, now how many people know about what Obama and McCain are trying to do to this country? (ie. changes they're bringing) How many people even watched the Democratic and Republican Party Conventions?
I bet you if Obama didn't appear black, then many blacks would NOT vote for him. I'm not trying to hate or anything, because how am I suppose to hate on the candidate I support? But forreal when's the last time you looked up the differences between the two campaigns. Fuck being the first black president, I want a GOOD president. Ignore the color, read before you make choices.
What if Obama wins, but he only won because he got many black votes? Then, he fucks up the country. You know who fucked up? Not him, we did. The fucking voters who amended the delegates' decisions. There's a time to listen to hip-hop artists talking their 'ish about voting for Obama for "change," and there's a time to READ (yeah I said it) about the change.
Yeah and when you wanna talk about politics, don't just copy and paste shit you got from the Associated Press (Lyricalthought, no offense). Because the statements you posted actually aren't all lies. They just over exaggerated some shit to move the people. But this is politics, you have to attack somehow to win. I don't think I have EVER read any posters talk about actual politics and debate-points on this website (correct me if I'm wrong).
Don't vote for Obama because "he's black, I'm black, why not?!" Don't try to front either because that's probably the first thing people think when they think about Obama, I'm no exceptions. Vote for him because you made an educated decision, not on that ignorant shit.
I support Obama, but not for the wrong reasons. A lot of people can make good speeches, so don't depend on that. You wouldn't vote for Hitler would you?
Well, for the "posters talk about actual politics and debate-points" sentence. I mean from my experience on Defsounds, but I don't stay lurking the forums for political debates lol.
If niggas gon vote 4 obama cuz um.. he a nigga 2. Then im all 4 it cuz crackers votin 4 mccain cuz...yea, hes a cracka 2. And they damn sho dont want a nigga in da oval office, whether its for the better or worse for the country. I was gon vote 4 him jus cuz he black but then i started lookin into this polital shit. And now i c dat he da best candidate neway. Mccain aint gon do shit but continue to blow up the rest of the world, like bush, and then wat happens wen the rest of the world wanna shoot back. ''Even the greatest nation in the world has it comin back 2 em a thousand times ova.''- Nas
That's a horrible view of politics. Vote for the white man because he's white and I'm white. Vote for the black man because he's black and I'm black. My teacher is white and he's voting for Obama. Obama has a white VP, what's that say?
What are you talking about, "blowing up the world?" wtf. If you're talking about the war in the middle-east, it's a war against terrorism. Remember what happened during 9/11, yeah that terrorism. The one that killed 3000 innocent civilians.
I agree with everything your saying people should do their research, before they vote for anyone, don't vote for obama because he's black and dont just vote for McCain because he has more experience, oh and I posted that article from associated press so people wouldn't read into all of the things that they were saying, over exaggeration or lies, their still not the truth.
I just thought it was funny how they categorically stated things, and rephrased comments so when I read that article that I posted I thought it would be a good way to get the topic moving....
But none the less, you made some really good points Props
Yeah, props man. What a lot of people don't realize, including me until I watched McCain's speech, which was almost as good as Obama's, is that McCain is a really good candidate too. They both are, and McCain might be actually better than Obama, but I'm for Obama because McCain dropped the ball when he picked Palin, who is a heartbeat away from fucking up this country. Now don't get me wrong, McCain has a lot of flaws that I don't like, but he basically denounced his party as Republicans and doesn't get along with Bush very well. He has begun branching off from Bush and making smart decisions. People need to do their research. But yeah, Obama talks about changes, but the money needed for this might put us back a few steps. Also he is inexperienced. Don't get it twisted though, I'm voting for Obama as of now, but really do your research before you vote for Obama just because he is black. Educate your mind.
Oh yeah, I'm white and I am PRETTY sick of seeing all the "white people are going to vote for McCain because he's white". That is what really pisses me off, because I don't know many white people that are voting for McCain, out of like the 300 I know, maybe like 20. That is pretty fucking beat of anyone to say that, and of course I'm not targeting blacks, just people who said that, and if this doesn't concern you, don't worry about it.
"^^^^You make a whole comment about the ignorance of voters and yet you still believe that the war in the middle east is a war on terrorism..."
Well, the war was originally against terrorism when it began, the criticism is within what it's become. I'm just trying to make a point against the guy who said McCain just wanted to blow up the world...
Unless you agree that he does, then that's a new argument.
go & cop "Audacity of Hope" by Obama. Then you'll see why as a white dude I'm voting for him. He's not about stance on the issues as much as collaboration on the values & needs of the American people. Just like he said in his speech @ the DNC, "we might not have the same stance on abortion, but we can all agree that we'd like to reduce the amount of unwanted pregnancies." That's not a race thing at all.
people turn politics into ignorance....like i'm black and voting for obama and not beceause he is part black but honestly, i was going to vote for hillary. I don't really care what anyone under me thinks "OH JERSEYCITYNIGGA is a sell out voting for that white woman" blah blah blah, but whatever. Half of the people don't even tune into cnn and msnbc and check out anything, they just say "I'm black, and He's black, he has my vote" and that's ignorant as hell without even checking out what each candidate has to offer and the back drops of each policy they are throwing out......If obama said "i wish all black people were hung on a tree so all the whites can point and laugh and take pictures" are you going to vote for him??????? or if obama says "Bill o'reilly is my home boy"..are you going to still vote for him???? I can be apart of the republican party because i'm above the middle class by a tiny margin in money but i'm a democrat by heart and yeah. I don't want to beat any of you in the head with my jibberish but some of you is turning this into ignorance and I BET!!! you that only 15ppl out of the thousands are going to actually go out and vote............Obama do your thing
naw fuck the dumb shit Im not black but I aint affraid to say it.Im voting for Obama for 2 reasons. 1 is cause he is a democrat and 2 he is black. The republican notion of capitalism creating jobs and letting it trickle down to the poor is fucken outdated and obsurd.Ppl in the hoods all across america plus rural backwood poverty need govt aid that the republicans continue to ignore.Shit Im from one of the poorest states on the map and see that shit happen first hand.And yes I am voting for obama cause hes black its way long over due that we get an equal chance to choose a minority in office,the fact that it took this long is fucken disgusting and ppl need to stop being biggots when it comes to other cultures.That shit is also obsolete wake the fuck up ppl
I commend you for being proud of who your voting for,
But Im leery at your reasoning.
Being a democrat means nothing, just because their democrats dosent mean they will do whats right for the country or whats right for us.
Remember it was a Republican that came up with Public assistance, it was the republicans who abolished slavery, it was the republicans who fixed the economy after world war I.
Dont vote for somebody for race or for political party, Vote for them because you agree with their goals and views for America.
For Example, Im voting for Obama because he has touched and said he will focus on the issues that affect me such as..
College tuition
The Economy
Social Security
Health Insurance-Which I dont have
Gas Prices (New Energy Plan Moving away from Feul)
the perception of America around the world
Moving away from the massive tax breaks that people making 250,000 or more receive and giving those tax breaks to the lower bracket salaries
Those are some of the things that he plans to focus on, and those are the that effect me.
Meanwhile from what I've heard and seen, McCain wants Offshore Drilling (although Obama did agree with that smh)
Does not want to improve the wages for teachers
Wants to Cut the amount of financial Aid College students can receive
Beleives that if you give the richer people the biggest tax breaks it will have a trickle down effect (Thats been the plan for 8 years and clearly it hasnt worked smh)
Wants to send more people to Iraq
Does not Support Aboriton (Im Pro Choice)
Does not support gay marriage (Let God Judge them we have no right)
And is known to Sleep with Lobbyist, and make backdoor deals that will help him while hurting the country.
Why don't you guys look up the sex scandal he had with the communications Lobbyist
I can't believe what I'm reading. alot of you guys on here are older than me and yet it's so sad to see you state some of the most ignorant statements like "i'm voting for him because i'm black." COME ON
yes is a wonderful thing that a minority could possibly become president, but if he's gonna mess everything up for us, i'm not voting for him. AND YES I'M BLACK. I would vote for a white guy who is a good candidate before a vote for a black who is a horrible candidate ANYDAY IN A HEARTBEAT.
do you realize how important the president's job is? are you really ignorant enough to put someone in that position JUST because he's a minority? so if he's a crackhead but he's black we shoud vote him in. PEOPLE PLEASE THINK, YOU'RE MAKING MINORITIES AND HIP HOP HEADS LOOK BAD, YOU PROVING THE STEREOTYPES CORRECT!!!
^^^ that's some real shit......republicans policies are basically leaning towards the mid to higher class people because they can afford to go by most of his policies and laws while the families that are struggling will contiue to struggle and drop even lower in society. Basically McCain is george bush's clone but with another last name. What makes me mad is, BLACK ppl are always bitching about who is in office, and how republicans keep winning but if you don't get your asses out and vote, it will happen again and again. When you vote you are putting your voice out there and your vote can make a difference even though the electoral college's shit is the main jump-off but your one vote can help that candidate win your state but you have to make an effort and get your ass out of bed and go to the voting booth(s).
I'm voting for Obama because he is black, the same way white people voting for Mccain because he is white..The conservatives didn't want him, but they sure is hell don't want Obama. Why do you think John Mccain chose Palin in the 1st place? She is pro-life, pro-guns everything John Mccain isn't(he's switched his votes a bunch of times)..Mccain is rallying his base and his base happens to be white people..Did you see the convention...14,999 white people, 3 Asian cooks, 2 black janitors and a disabled ethiopian kid..Real representative of America right? We have been voting for white people our whole lives, some can't even break the cycle and will vote for Mccain..
To my Hispanic brothers, it's so sad that you guys always sympathize with us, say your "one of us" and all that ish...Drop the N-word, listen to our music, jock our slang, but soon as someone mentions that hispanics have african blood your heads spin around in disgust. Sad Obama won't win the hispanic vote, but then again you guys are "one of us"..
Sarah Palin is an idiot..Her daughter is a hoe and the only reason I call her a hoe is because if that was Michelle Obama's daughter we would've heard about how "unwed black mothers giving birth in this country is an epidemic" But when white folks do it "it's a tragedy and oh don't worry their going to get married" Get the fuck outta here. SOrta like Malcom X was "revolting" but what ya'll did in 1776 was a "revolution"...I can't believe we will elect trash but the black family has to be the god-damn huxtibles and still people have doubts...Ya'll ain't hearin me this afternoon.
Cindy Mccain is a pill-popping junkie. When someone in her non-profit organization outed her to her husband, press and authorities they were fired..She doesn't even acknowledge that she has siblings for christ sake! but has a couple of half-brothers and sisters...
And so what John Mccain was a P.O.W., I respect his service, but you "chose" to sign up and you knew the risks, so you shouldn't get special treatment.
As someone who's worked for Republicans and Democrats, there are evils in both. But the republicans are hypocrites. I used to kick it with a representatives son and that boy was out of his fucking mind. Pills, Alcohol, weed, coke, all in one night?! Damn nigga space it out or something..Then not to mention the mom was a complete whore and one the kids wasn't his and he didn't even know..I'm done fuck MCcain, Palin and all those who are not voting for Obama..You ain't making 250,000k a year and voting republican?? kill yourself!
Clearly you need to read what rscrbc has read. Oh and stop saying white people are gonna vote for McCain, because you REALLY don't know what you're talking about. My entire family is white and they are all voting for Obama. Same with mostly all of my friends. Not everything is about race. Educate your mind.
1st of all race matters and the only people who don't think so is white people..Black and brown people have been over the race issue since the beginning of time. Remember you guys wrote this thing called the declaration of independence which states "all men are created equal" man that was the 1700's and it still took 250 years, a civil war and you guys still don't get it!!! lmbao
Discrimination is one of the key components into why their is a recession today..The Housing Market.
A black man with a college degree has the same chances as a white man with a felony. And we are getting our asses kicked on the technology front..All men are not created equal and the education system proves that daily. The republicans try kicking knowledge with that bullshit "charter" school non-sense..Instead of paying money for busing, so a kid in lower income area can go to a better school, how about you just use that funding to fix the school in his area!!!!!!!! Nope but that's too fucking easy! The whole point is that b/s manifesto "all men are created equal" is not true. Your people preach, practice and live it everyday.
Malcom X was once asked by a white female on the steps of Harvard University
"what can I do to further your cause"
Malcom replied "nothing"
I respect you and your family for its decency, but you are one white family out of millions who don't see Barack as equal. Sad but true. And the white people who do see him as equal ask the question "why can't all blacks be like him" as if being black is some type of lifestyle..Either way race matters always. Barack shouldn't have the burden of being called "post-racial"..Lol all those white politicians that black people have voted been called "post-racial"??? I think not..Even when you don't mean too, you still do and always remember the "people with the best intentions, commit the worst atrocities". Racism is one of them.
White people talking to black people about race should understand you got to let that black person get the 1st 100 blows! You have any idea what its like not to be able to trace your roots? Have no clear knowledge where your from? I guess your irish or german? Me I don't know! I couldn't tell ya. I put my last name in one of those "trace your roots" search engines and all that came up was a bunch of English cats. I guess those were my ancestors slave-holders.
Understand that wherever your people have showed up death, disease and despair has followed for brown and black people. Understand that I and other blacks today do not blame you directly, but we want you to understand things are not equal and probably never will be. We are a people with "30-day tags" because this is not our permanent residence. We are lost in the wilderness known as America. Brought here unwillingly.
While most blacks today don't have grand-parents who were slaves, they were most likely share-croppers which was "slavery", still under Jim Crow laws. Don't get me wrong, there were black hotels, nightclubs, businesses owned and operated by blacks all through the 1920's, 30's,40's,50's and 60's but when desegregation happened, we suddenly, over night had to play by "your" rules. Building permits, zoning codes, fire hazards. Get where i'm going with this..Boarded up buildings in every city in America that has been standing since the 60's most likely at one point was a happening night-spot black owned..Due to ill preparation post segregation that went to shit quick.
MLK gave his speech on August 28th, 1963. Not even a month later on Sept. 15th 1963, 4 little beautiful black girls were killed in a bombing..
MLK said " I feel like I'm integrating my people into a burning building"
actually u didnt really answer my question, tho u did make excellent points, i was just saying that a barack could be like the black george bush and you woudlve voted for him cause hes black? also i was saying that it was inaccurate the way you were saying all white people are voting for mccain... and yes, i know exactly what its like to not be able to trace your roots, my grandma's entire family was killed in the holocaust, her escaping, she had to watch as the nazis rounded everyone up into a movie theater and burned it to the ground, so my people know a little bit about what its like to have death as their story, but no i will never know what its like to be black, and you will never know what its like to jewish, its much harder than it seems, and im not comparing the two in any way... so just please understand that black people arent the only ones that have problems
I love my country, but this war is bullshit..White people need to realize not everybody wants their Mcdonald garbarge littering their high-ways..Imagine a bunch of foreign tanks and armed serviced men walking through your neighborhood and you decide to stand up and fight?! Sounds like a mother fucking Patriot to me!!But then again we're white and everything we do is right, even when we're wrong! So listen to us, become a western society and adopt our religion, politics, disease and corruption. Look at Spain..They don't even recognize their latino brothers outside of the country..Some of the most racist sons of bitches on the planet. That's because they are completely white-washed and as European as one can get.
I don't mean to disrespect the wonderful people of the service. Disproportionately minorities, but man sometimes that shit ain't our place. Yeh some of these politicians have family members in the service but I guarantee it's not in combat!!! How man politicians son's die out of 4500 or so?? Anyone?? My point exactly..They sit back and collect all the fucking money why we doing all the dirty work...I hope China or North Korea puts a motherfuckin dent in America sometimes so we can become England and realize you can't just set up your ideals and influence anywhere you please..England got a wake up call in India, ever since they have fallen back..We need to get G-Checked quick!
hey rscrbc yeah sept11 was a very tragic thing that happened and the people that were responsible needs to be punished, but thres was no reaon for to bush attack Iraq. Iraq didnt blow up the towers.In result of the war 140,000 iraqi civilians died. (not terrorists or iraqi soldiers)
but 140,000 civilians. so compare 140,000 killed in iraq
100s of thousands of innocent people killed in afghanistan
to 3,000 killed in sept11. 240,000 to 3,000. i think the real terrorits are people like mccain and bush wage war on anyone does not agree with them, and use the media like fox news or cnn to make(propoganda) lies about the middle east.
I'M SO TIRED OF HEARING THIS RACE SHIT. YEAH I'M WHITE, BUT I NEVER CALLED NO BLACK MAN A NIGGER, OR SUPPORTED SLAVERY, ETC. NOR DO I ASSOCIATE WITH PEOPLE WHO DO. SO WHY DO I ALWAYS HEAR THIS "YOU DID THIS" OR "YOU DID THAT" SHIT? AND LOOK AROUND YOU MARQUIS SADE BUT I SAW QUITE A FEW WHITES AT THE DNC. WHO THE FUCK CARES HOW MANY WHITEYS THERE WAS AT THE RNC BECAUSE THOSE COCKSUCKAS AREN'T GONNA WIN ANYWAY! OBAMA FOR CHANGE, REMEMBER? BUT HOW CAN WE CHANGE AS A COUNTRY IF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WANT TO PLAY THE RACE CARD ALL THE TIME? VOTE OBAMA 2008
"Understand that wherever your people have showed up death, disease and despair has followed for brown and black people. Understand that I and other blacks today do not blame you directly, but we want you to understand things are not equal and probably never will be."
If you actually read it, you wouldn't have made your comment...And like I said the only group of people who think race doesn't matter is White people..It's easy when your in a position of power to say that..Play the race card?? Lol I'm not applying for no job, nor did I get denied..I just spoke the truth..That's the biggest problem with white males..Your inability to listen, process and accept. And like I said no black person today blames the whites today for anything in the past. Just understand you benefit from being white. The statistics prove that theory. God Bless
That's the biggest problem with white males..Your inability to listen, process and accept.
there you go right there stereotyping and entire race/gender in one sentence my dude. i'll even go as far as to agree with you, white people do benefit from the imbalance of economic and social power that has only been reconciled a few short decades ago. but you say how you dont blame white people in particular, but just the race as a whole for atrocities commited in the past? is that not racism? thats like me saying well i dont blame frank lucas for selling heroin on new york city streets, but i blame black people in general for benefitting from some of the positive things he gave back to the community.
and if you want to really get technical, i'm italian which is, whether you like to hear it or not, a minority ethnic group in this country. i also cant trace my family roots because of the rocky history of italy's origin. do i care? no. do i blame the black tribes or white armies that invaded italy before it was a united country? no. im informed but i dont care, because i dont base my outlook on the people i share this world with on the fucked up racial relations of the past. it matters as much as you make it matter.
my opinion do you know how many hip hop artist are trying to get people out there to vote what does this have to with hip hop? everything basically because of bush and the lame republicans americans lost 84,000 jobs and the unemployment rate jumped up like 5 or 6 percent which means niggas ain't eating and when niggas ain't eating nobody has money to buy albums and alotta of people in the industry are going broke because of bush and the lame republicans ie: Dame Dash,Scott Storch and people say Obama has no experience but what exactly has McCain done while he was in the senate?
a community organizer has no responsiblities
funny thing is the community he organized had more people in it than the entire state she governs
and plus that bitches daughter is unmarried and pregnant! republicans and there "family values"
@at (lyrical thought) ive read your response and agree with your logical reasoning behind choosing who to vote 4.The republicans you mentioned should be commended for thier contributions to our society,but on the other hand that was a very long time ago.Now there isnt much I know when it comes to politics. In this short lifetime of mine Ive come to realize that Imma product of Reganomics.Now most ppl think that thats a good thing in general but Regans time in office is parallel to the time crack was introduced to every hood in america.Thats an entirely new discussion on its own.Then in came Bush senior and his term in office was parrallel to the countries first recession inna very long time.Up next would be Bill Clinton who created 5,000,000 new jobs in office which created a booming economy.Now last and the very least which I am sad to say we go
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I think I speak for everyone when I say I am proud to run my mouth on def sounds
fuck your first bullshit!!!
but on a serious note, you really can't just blame republicans for this shit. Unfortunately thats polotics in america today. Both sides do it, and the entire process of running for president becomes less and less relevant to the issues every 4 years. Hopefully the best candidate will win and change that.
I encourage everybody to go out and vote. If you like obama, mccain, or even ross perot, go out and vote for your candidate.
Yo,
I think McCain picked Palin for all the wrong reasons. I think it was a strategic move, to try and pull Hillary supporters away from Obama, but we have to all ask ourselves if something happens to McCain is Palin a good choice for President? That is what McCain should have been asking himself, and if he did he would never have made that choice. Also her personal stuff is gonna be a detriment to the G.O.P. I'm democrat, voting for Obama (really voting not just talking). PEACE Come check out The Livin' Large Morning Show w/ Bobby Livin', and Tony Large Sundays 11am-1pm EST at www.clubmegamix.com. You'll like it. We go on LIVE TODAY!!
vote or die motherfuckkas!!! 0bama 08!
keep this mcCain and Palin shit outta the white house!
^^^ this man really needs to shut the fuck up please no ones gona read your shit but you
Shut Up With That First Shit You Prick
Yeah I Know What You Mean Politicans Tear Each Other Up In Debate Then When Its Over They Shake Hands And Move On Just Like The End Of a Battle
Obama 08
"they went in on the stuff that didn’t matter."
Education reform doesn't matter?
What does this really have to do with hip-hop?
Lmao. Are you smoking crack?
Was the comparison not clear enough?
And Education Reform. What the fuck did they say? "We believe in what the kids learn instead of liberal propaganda that puts the needs of the teachers first."
They're on PCP to have to balls to say that. Teachers as a whole don't make shit, especially for what they do, budgets keep getting cut form education but get inflated on state budgets for other things like ... not educating our children which means ... our state faces a threat when we're not raising informed citizens who are capable of deducing and VOTING on issues.
And they said nothing about their PLANS for education reform.
PLUS. Those muh'fugga's were talking about change, like they're presenting the ticket for change ... like they weren't running shit for the past 8 years?
And all this about a do nothing senate, it's only been democrat for 2 years. Which means the other 6 years nothing was getting done ... kn'amsaying.
And even if it has less to do with hip hop than you're used to.
I'm sorry but music can take a back burner on effing ... who ... is going to be ... the president ... of our country ... for the next 4 years.
No offense.
But.
Kn'amsaying.
It could be the difference between whether or not we exist.
hip-hop's definition is knowledge in action... ask KRS-One. Knowing about the goings-on of our country is as much hip-hop, and even more in my honest opinion than knowin how many phantoms weezy wanted to let us know he has... (or any other rapper for that matter)
KIR
Keep It Real.
SHE STILL FINE.
Lies told at the Republican Convention....
ST. PAUL, Minn. - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.
Some examples:
PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."
THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."
PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate."
THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.
PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."
THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.
Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.
He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.
MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply ... She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.
THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.
MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. ... She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.
THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.
FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."
THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.
FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."
THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.
^^Wish I could prop that twice^^ Dont forget to vote come election time. Obama '08!
Yeah! Obama 08. Obama's charismatic and on rise during his country's economic decline. He caters to the emotion of young people incredibly well too. I mean save logic for the few, right? He has all the right media propaganda (95% of our media being controlled by liberals helps him a lot). Obama has his own little symbol, wrote a book about his world views, and some people actually think he's a Messiah (seriously, I'm not kidding). He was involved with a seperatist movement for 20 years(called Black Liberation Theology), and speaks of CHANGE but doesn't clarify it (unless it's through more government control).
Wow! It's funny how history can repeat itself and sometimes people are too naive to realize it. I can think back in history about a leader once who was so much similar before he was in a position of power. He too gave extremely charismatic speeches and motivated the people emotionally for dramatic change. He too had the right media propaganda and the people loved him. The people wanted dramatic change and that's what he constantly spoke about but just like Obama he never explained exactly what he meant or how he'd make the changes. This leader also was involved with a seperatist movement in his past and his country was going through a depression. He also wrote a book about his world views and also had his own "little symbol". On top of that, people thought he was a Messiah too. I guess Adolf Hitler did make a lot of changes.
sorry for such a large post but I thought it would be insiteful
Alot of people are wondering why McCain would pick this nobody governor anyway. The hillary voter arguement is tired, seeing as though there are other female governors in other states.
Think DS think. She's governor of Alaska. Alaska = oil.
please go out and vote, especially if you live in a key state (ohio, florida, penn, wyoming, north dakota, illonois, etc.)
Dang I think Lyricalthought covered like everything haha
don't forget that Palin lied about the bridge to no where and she's getting investigated for ethics Republicans stay lying seriously how can anybody vote for them
Sarah Palin's daugher is so hoooooooot
I'd fuck!!!!
Repeatedly.
I already did, Thats Defsounds baby lol
There's a bigger problem in the voting system.
Ignorance.
How many people on this website support McCain? Okay. Now using elimination, how many people support Obama?
Alright, now how many people know about what Obama and McCain are trying to do to this country? (ie. changes they're bringing) How many people even watched the Democratic and Republican Party Conventions?
I bet you if Obama didn't appear black, then many blacks would NOT vote for him. I'm not trying to hate or anything, because how am I suppose to hate on the candidate I support? But forreal when's the last time you looked up the differences between the two campaigns. Fuck being the first black president, I want a GOOD president. Ignore the color, read before you make choices.
What if Obama wins, but he only won because he got many black votes? Then, he fucks up the country. You know who fucked up? Not him, we did. The fucking voters who amended the delegates' decisions. There's a time to listen to hip-hop artists talking their 'ish about voting for Obama for "change," and there's a time to READ (yeah I said it) about the change.
Yeah and when you wanna talk about politics, don't just copy and paste shit you got from the Associated Press (Lyricalthought, no offense). Because the statements you posted actually aren't all lies. They just over exaggerated some shit to move the people. But this is politics, you have to attack somehow to win. I don't think I have EVER read any posters talk about actual politics and debate-points on this website (correct me if I'm wrong).
Don't vote for Obama because "he's black, I'm black, why not?!" Don't try to front either because that's probably the first thing people think when they think about Obama, I'm no exceptions. Vote for him because you made an educated decision, not on that ignorant shit.
I support Obama, but not for the wrong reasons. A lot of people can make good speeches, so don't depend on that. You wouldn't vote for Hitler would you?
Well, for the "posters talk about actual politics and debate-points" sentence. I mean from my experience on Defsounds, but I don't stay lurking the forums for political debates lol.
If niggas gon vote 4 obama cuz um.. he a nigga 2. Then im all 4 it cuz crackers votin 4 mccain cuz...yea, hes a cracka 2. And they damn sho dont want a nigga in da oval office, whether its for the better or worse for the country. I was gon vote 4 him jus cuz he black but then i started lookin into this polital shit. And now i c dat he da best candidate neway. Mccain aint gon do shit but continue to blow up the rest of the world, like bush, and then wat happens wen the rest of the world wanna shoot back. ''Even the greatest nation in the world has it comin back 2 em a thousand times ova.''- Nas
That's a horrible view of politics. Vote for the white man because he's white and I'm white. Vote for the black man because he's black and I'm black. My teacher is white and he's voting for Obama. Obama has a white VP, what's that say?
What are you talking about, "blowing up the world?" wtf. If you're talking about the war in the middle-east, it's a war against terrorism. Remember what happened during 9/11, yeah that terrorism. The one that killed 3000 innocent civilians.
I agree with everything your saying people should do their research, before they vote for anyone, don't vote for obama because he's black and dont just vote for McCain because he has more experience, oh and I posted that article from associated press so people wouldn't read into all of the things that they were saying, over exaggeration or lies, their still not the truth.
I just thought it was funny how they categorically stated things, and rephrased comments so when I read that article that I posted I thought it would be a good way to get the topic moving....
But none the less, you made some really good points Props
^^^^You make a whole comment about the ignorance of voters and yet you still believe that the war in the middle east is a war on terrorism...
Yeah, props man. What a lot of people don't realize, including me until I watched McCain's speech, which was almost as good as Obama's, is that McCain is a really good candidate too. They both are, and McCain might be actually better than Obama, but I'm for Obama because McCain dropped the ball when he picked Palin, who is a heartbeat away from fucking up this country. Now don't get me wrong, McCain has a lot of flaws that I don't like, but he basically denounced his party as Republicans and doesn't get along with Bush very well. He has begun branching off from Bush and making smart decisions. People need to do their research. But yeah, Obama talks about changes, but the money needed for this might put us back a few steps. Also he is inexperienced. Don't get it twisted though, I'm voting for Obama as of now, but really do your research before you vote for Obama just because he is black. Educate your mind.
Oh yeah, I'm white and I am PRETTY sick of seeing all the "white people are going to vote for McCain because he's white". That is what really pisses me off, because I don't know many white people that are voting for McCain, out of like the 300 I know, maybe like 20. That is pretty fucking beat of anyone to say that, and of course I'm not targeting blacks, just people who said that, and if this doesn't concern you, don't worry about it.
"^^^^You make a whole comment about the ignorance of voters and yet you still believe that the war in the middle east is a war on terrorism..."
Well, the war was originally against terrorism when it began, the criticism is within what it's become. I'm just trying to make a point against the guy who said McCain just wanted to blow up the world...
Unless you agree that he does, then that's a new argument.
go & cop "Audacity of Hope" by Obama. Then you'll see why as a white dude I'm voting for him. He's not about stance on the issues as much as collaboration on the values & needs of the American people. Just like he said in his speech @ the DNC, "we might not have the same stance on abortion, but we can all agree that we'd like to reduce the amount of unwanted pregnancies." That's not a race thing at all.
noope i don't think mccain is going to blow up the world, but i don't think hes going to be much help to America either.
As for the war "on terror" even the bush administration admitted they were wrong when they associated terrorism with Iraq...
aside from that, i mostly agree with what you have to say...always keep your mind open....Never Ignorant Gettin Goals Accomplished
people turn politics into ignorance....like i'm black and voting for obama and not beceause he is part black but honestly, i was going to vote for hillary. I don't really care what anyone under me thinks "OH JERSEYCITYNIGGA is a sell out voting for that white woman" blah blah blah, but whatever. Half of the people don't even tune into cnn and msnbc and check out anything, they just say "I'm black, and He's black, he has my vote" and that's ignorant as hell without even checking out what each candidate has to offer and the back drops of each policy they are throwing out......If obama said "i wish all black people were hung on a tree so all the whites can point and laugh and take pictures" are you going to vote for him??????? or if obama says "Bill o'reilly is my home boy"..are you going to still vote for him???? I can be apart of the republican party because i'm above the middle class by a tiny margin in money but i'm a democrat by heart and yeah. I don't want to beat any of you in the head with my jibberish but some of you is turning this into ignorance and I BET!!! you that only 15ppl out of the thousands are going to actually go out and vote............Obama do your thing
naw fuck the dumb shit Im not black but I aint affraid to say it.Im voting for Obama for 2 reasons. 1 is cause he is a democrat and 2 he is black. The republican notion of capitalism creating jobs and letting it trickle down to the poor is fucken outdated and obsurd.Ppl in the hoods all across america plus rural backwood poverty need govt aid that the republicans continue to ignore.Shit Im from one of the poorest states on the map and see that shit happen first hand.And yes I am voting for obama cause hes black its way long over due that we get an equal chance to choose a minority in office,the fact that it took this long is fucken disgusting and ppl need to stop being biggots when it comes to other cultures.That shit is also obsolete wake the fuck up ppl
I feel two different ways about this comment.
I commend you for being proud of who your voting for,
But Im leery at your reasoning.
Being a democrat means nothing, just because their democrats dosent mean they will do whats right for the country or whats right for us.
Remember it was a Republican that came up with Public assistance, it was the republicans who abolished slavery, it was the republicans who fixed the economy after world war I.
Dont vote for somebody for race or for political party, Vote for them because you agree with their goals and views for America.
For Example, Im voting for Obama because he has touched and said he will focus on the issues that affect me such as..
College tuition
The Economy
Social Security
Health Insurance-Which I dont have
Gas Prices (New Energy Plan Moving away from Feul)
the perception of America around the world
Moving away from the massive tax breaks that people making 250,000 or more receive and giving those tax breaks to the lower bracket salaries
Those are some of the things that he plans to focus on, and those are the that effect me.
Meanwhile from what I've heard and seen, McCain wants Offshore Drilling (although Obama did agree with that smh)
Does not want to improve the wages for teachers
Wants to Cut the amount of financial Aid College students can receive
Beleives that if you give the richer people the biggest tax breaks it will have a trickle down effect (Thats been the plan for 8 years and clearly it hasnt worked smh)
Wants to send more people to Iraq
Does not Support Aboriton (Im Pro Choice)
Does not support gay marriage (Let God Judge them we have no right)
And is known to Sleep with Lobbyist, and make backdoor deals that will help him while hurting the country.
Why don't you guys look up the sex scandal he had with the communications Lobbyist
I can't believe what I'm reading. alot of you guys on here are older than me and yet it's so sad to see you state some of the most ignorant statements like "i'm voting for him because i'm black." COME ON
yes is a wonderful thing that a minority could possibly become president, but if he's gonna mess everything up for us, i'm not voting for him. AND YES I'M BLACK. I would vote for a white guy who is a good candidate before a vote for a black who is a horrible candidate ANYDAY IN A HEARTBEAT.
do you realize how important the president's job is? are you really ignorant enough to put someone in that position JUST because he's a minority? so if he's a crackhead but he's black we shoud vote him in. PEOPLE PLEASE THINK, YOU'RE MAKING MINORITIES AND HIP HOP HEADS LOOK BAD, YOU PROVING THE STEREOTYPES CORRECT!!!
by the way, i'm voting for Obama.
^^^ that's some real shit......republicans policies are basically leaning towards the mid to higher class people because they can afford to go by most of his policies and laws while the families that are struggling will contiue to struggle and drop even lower in society. Basically McCain is george bush's clone but with another last name. What makes me mad is, BLACK ppl are always bitching about who is in office, and how republicans keep winning but if you don't get your asses out and vote, it will happen again and again. When you vote you are putting your voice out there and your vote can make a difference even though the electoral college's shit is the main jump-off but your one vote can help that candidate win your state but you have to make an effort and get your ass out of bed and go to the voting booth(s).
I'm voting for Obama because he is black, the same way white people voting for Mccain because he is white..The conservatives didn't want him, but they sure is hell don't want Obama. Why do you think John Mccain chose Palin in the 1st place? She is pro-life, pro-guns everything John Mccain isn't(he's switched his votes a bunch of times)..Mccain is rallying his base and his base happens to be white people..Did you see the convention...14,999 white people, 3 Asian cooks, 2 black janitors and a disabled ethiopian kid..Real representative of America right? We have been voting for white people our whole lives, some can't even break the cycle and will vote for Mccain..
To my Hispanic brothers, it's so sad that you guys always sympathize with us, say your "one of us" and all that ish...Drop the N-word, listen to our music, jock our slang, but soon as someone mentions that hispanics have african blood your heads spin around in disgust. Sad Obama won't win the hispanic vote, but then again you guys are "one of us"..
Sarah Palin is an idiot..Her daughter is a hoe and the only reason I call her a hoe is because if that was Michelle Obama's daughter we would've heard about how "unwed black mothers giving birth in this country is an epidemic" But when white folks do it "it's a tragedy and oh don't worry their going to get married" Get the fuck outta here. SOrta like Malcom X was "revolting" but what ya'll did in 1776 was a "revolution"...I can't believe we will elect trash but the black family has to be the god-damn huxtibles and still people have doubts...Ya'll ain't hearin me this afternoon.
Cindy Mccain is a pill-popping junkie. When someone in her non-profit organization outed her to her husband, press and authorities they were fired..She doesn't even acknowledge that she has siblings for christ sake! but has a couple of half-brothers and sisters...
And so what John Mccain was a P.O.W., I respect his service, but you "chose" to sign up and you knew the risks, so you shouldn't get special treatment.
As someone who's worked for Republicans and Democrats, there are evils in both. But the republicans are hypocrites. I used to kick it with a representatives son and that boy was out of his fucking mind. Pills, Alcohol, weed, coke, all in one night?! Damn nigga space it out or something..Then not to mention the mom was a complete whore and one the kids wasn't his and he didn't even know..I'm done fuck MCcain, Palin and all those who are not voting for Obama..You ain't making 250,000k a year and voting republican?? kill yourself!
unemployment at a 5 year high 6.1 percent!!
Clearly you need to read what rscrbc has read. Oh and stop saying white people are gonna vote for McCain, because you REALLY don't know what you're talking about. My entire family is white and they are all voting for Obama. Same with mostly all of my friends. Not everything is about race. Educate your mind.
1st of all race matters and the only people who don't think so is white people..Black and brown people have been over the race issue since the beginning of time. Remember you guys wrote this thing called the declaration of independence which states "all men are created equal" man that was the 1700's and it still took 250 years, a civil war and you guys still don't get it!!! lmbao
Discrimination is one of the key components into why their is a recession today..The Housing Market.
A black man with a college degree has the same chances as a white man with a felony. And we are getting our asses kicked on the technology front..All men are not created equal and the education system proves that daily. The republicans try kicking knowledge with that bullshit "charter" school non-sense..Instead of paying money for busing, so a kid in lower income area can go to a better school, how about you just use that funding to fix the school in his area!!!!!!!! Nope but that's too fucking easy! The whole point is that b/s manifesto "all men are created equal" is not true. Your people preach, practice and live it everyday.
Malcom X was once asked by a white female on the steps of Harvard University
"what can I do to further your cause"
Malcom replied "nothing"
I respect you and your family for its decency, but you are one white family out of millions who don't see Barack as equal. Sad but true. And the white people who do see him as equal ask the question "why can't all blacks be like him" as if being black is some type of lifestyle..Either way race matters always. Barack shouldn't have the burden of being called "post-racial"..Lol all those white politicians that black people have voted been called "post-racial"??? I think not..Even when you don't mean too, you still do and always remember the "people with the best intentions, commit the worst atrocities". Racism is one of them.
White people talking to black people about race should understand you got to let that black person get the 1st 100 blows! You have any idea what its like not to be able to trace your roots? Have no clear knowledge where your from? I guess your irish or german? Me I don't know! I couldn't tell ya. I put my last name in one of those "trace your roots" search engines and all that came up was a bunch of English cats. I guess those were my ancestors slave-holders.
Understand that wherever your people have showed up death, disease and despair has followed for brown and black people. Understand that I and other blacks today do not blame you directly, but we want you to understand things are not equal and probably never will be. We are a people with "30-day tags" because this is not our permanent residence. We are lost in the wilderness known as America. Brought here unwillingly.
While most blacks today don't have grand-parents who were slaves, they were most likely share-croppers which was "slavery", still under Jim Crow laws. Don't get me wrong, there were black hotels, nightclubs, businesses owned and operated by blacks all through the 1920's, 30's,40's,50's and 60's but when desegregation happened, we suddenly, over night had to play by "your" rules. Building permits, zoning codes, fire hazards. Get where i'm going with this..Boarded up buildings in every city in America that has been standing since the 60's most likely at one point was a happening night-spot black owned..Due to ill preparation post segregation that went to shit quick.
MLK gave his speech on August 28th, 1963. Not even a month later on Sept. 15th 1963, 4 little beautiful black girls were killed in a bombing..
MLK said " I feel like I'm integrating my people into a burning building"
Well Mr. King there's an inferno.
actually u didnt really answer my question, tho u did make excellent points, i was just saying that a barack could be like the black george bush and you woudlve voted for him cause hes black? also i was saying that it was inaccurate the way you were saying all white people are voting for mccain... and yes, i know exactly what its like to not be able to trace your roots, my grandma's entire family was killed in the holocaust, her escaping, she had to watch as the nazis rounded everyone up into a movie theater and burned it to the ground, so my people know a little bit about what its like to have death as their story, but no i will never know what its like to be black, and you will never know what its like to jewish, its much harder than it seems, and im not comparing the two in any way... so just please understand that black people arent the only ones that have problems
I love my country, but this war is bullshit..White people need to realize not everybody wants their Mcdonald garbarge littering their high-ways..Imagine a bunch of foreign tanks and armed serviced men walking through your neighborhood and you decide to stand up and fight?! Sounds like a mother fucking Patriot to me!!But then again we're white and everything we do is right, even when we're wrong! So listen to us, become a western society and adopt our religion, politics, disease and corruption. Look at Spain..They don't even recognize their latino brothers outside of the country..Some of the most racist sons of bitches on the planet. That's because they are completely white-washed and as European as one can get.
I don't mean to disrespect the wonderful people of the service. Disproportionately minorities, but man sometimes that shit ain't our place. Yeh some of these politicians have family members in the service but I guarantee it's not in combat!!! How man politicians son's die out of 4500 or so?? Anyone?? My point exactly..They sit back and collect all the fucking money why we doing all the dirty work...I hope China or North Korea puts a motherfuckin dent in America sometimes so we can become England and realize you can't just set up your ideals and influence anywhere you please..England got a wake up call in India, ever since they have fallen back..We need to get G-Checked quick!
hey rscrbc yeah sept11 was a very tragic thing that happened and the people that were responsible needs to be punished, but thres was no reaon for to bush attack Iraq. Iraq didnt blow up the towers.In result of the war 140,000 iraqi civilians died. (not terrorists or iraqi soldiers)
but 140,000 civilians. so compare 140,000 killed in iraq
100s of thousands of innocent people killed in afghanistan
to 3,000 killed in sept11. 240,000 to 3,000. i think the real terrorits are people like mccain and bush wage war on anyone does not agree with them, and use the media like fox news or cnn to make(propoganda) lies about the middle east.
If i was Mccain ill be tapping dat ass. Palin use to be in pageants back in the day.
y do mufckas go against votin 4 obama? yall playn that race card too much. republicans already fuckd us ovr TWICE!
I'M SO TIRED OF HEARING THIS RACE SHIT. YEAH I'M WHITE, BUT I NEVER CALLED NO BLACK MAN A NIGGER, OR SUPPORTED SLAVERY, ETC. NOR DO I ASSOCIATE WITH PEOPLE WHO DO. SO WHY DO I ALWAYS HEAR THIS "YOU DID THIS" OR "YOU DID THAT" SHIT? AND LOOK AROUND YOU MARQUIS SADE BUT I SAW QUITE A FEW WHITES AT THE DNC. WHO THE FUCK CARES HOW MANY WHITEYS THERE WAS AT THE RNC BECAUSE THOSE COCKSUCKAS AREN'T GONNA WIN ANYWAY! OBAMA FOR CHANGE, REMEMBER? BUT HOW CAN WE CHANGE AS A COUNTRY IF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WANT TO PLAY THE RACE CARD ALL THE TIME? VOTE OBAMA 2008
"Understand that wherever your people have showed up death, disease and despair has followed for brown and black people. Understand that I and other blacks today do not blame you directly, but we want you to understand things are not equal and probably never will be."
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If you actually read it, you wouldn't have made your comment...And like I said the only group of people who think race doesn't matter is White people..It's easy when your in a position of power to say that..Play the race card?? Lol I'm not applying for no job, nor did I get denied..I just spoke the truth..That's the biggest problem with white males..Your inability to listen, process and accept. And like I said no black person today blames the whites today for anything in the past. Just understand you benefit from being white. The statistics prove that theory. God Bless
That's the biggest problem with white males..Your inability to listen, process and accept.
there you go right there stereotyping and entire race/gender in one sentence my dude. i'll even go as far as to agree with you, white people do benefit from the imbalance of economic and social power that has only been reconciled a few short decades ago. but you say how you dont blame white people in particular, but just the race as a whole for atrocities commited in the past? is that not racism? thats like me saying well i dont blame frank lucas for selling heroin on new york city streets, but i blame black people in general for benefitting from some of the positive things he gave back to the community.
and if you want to really get technical, i'm italian which is, whether you like to hear it or not, a minority ethnic group in this country. i also cant trace my family roots because of the rocky history of italy's origin. do i care? no. do i blame the black tribes or white armies that invaded italy before it was a united country? no. im informed but i dont care, because i dont base my outlook on the people i share this world with on the fucked up racial relations of the past. it matters as much as you make it matter.
what does this have to do with hip hop?
my opinion do you know how many hip hop artist are trying to get people out there to vote what does this have to with hip hop? everything basically because of bush and the lame republicans americans lost 84,000 jobs and the unemployment rate jumped up like 5 or 6 percent which means niggas ain't eating and when niggas ain't eating nobody has money to buy albums and alotta of people in the industry are going broke because of bush and the lame republicans ie: Dame Dash,Scott Storch and people say Obama has no experience but what exactly has McCain done while he was in the senate?
a community organizer has no responsiblities
funny thing is the community he organized had more people in it than the entire state she governs
and plus that bitches daughter is unmarried and pregnant! republicans and there "family values"
@at (lyrical thought) ive read your response and agree with your logical reasoning behind choosing who to vote 4.The republicans you mentioned should be commended for thier contributions to our society,but on the other hand that was a very long time ago.Now there isnt much I know when it comes to politics. In this short lifetime of mine Ive come to realize that Imma product of Reganomics.Now most ppl think that thats a good thing in general but Regans time in office is parallel to the time crack was introduced to every hood in america.Thats an entirely new discussion on its own.Then in came Bush senior and his term in office was parrallel to the countries first recession inna very long time.Up next would be Bill Clinton who created 5,000,000 new jobs in office which created a booming economy.Now last and the very least which I am sad to say we go