Dipset has been known to have a of couple of lyricists on their label, but they have yet to consistently put out artists who can do more than throw a couple of threats over a beat on a mixtape. Many of their albums have lacked in depth content and mainstream success. They have had a couple of songs that saw mainstream success (We Fly High, The Whistle Song, Oh Boy) but for the most part they have only had regional and mixtape success. When comparing them to other artists, their albums do not match up. Dipset has claimed to be New York’s Dynasty. They claim to be a movement. And while they do have a cult following, that’s about all they have, a cult following.
As a label, they have officially had two Platinum selling artists. They were “Killa” Camron Giles and Juelz Santana . Camron’s highest sale total was 1.6 million. When he went platinum, he (as well as Dipset) was under the mainstream label, and Hip Hop Dynasty in their own right, Roc-a-Fella Records. Since Camron left Roc-a-Fella, he has failed to reach platinum status. His first album since leaving Roc-a-Fella has sold only 391,000 and was considered a flop. Juelz Santana top selling album sold 1.1 million and it took almost a year for the album to go platinum. Furthermore, he did this while being officially signed to DefJam records, meaning Diplomat records had nothing to do with the success of his album. Besides these two, no other Dipset artist has even been able to sell up to 500,000 records, let alone go platinum.
Outside of New York, the group as a whole is not well known. If you go out to Detroit and ask a rap fan if they know who 40 Cal is, they might not be able to answer your question, and now that I think about it…who is 40 Cal? How much longer will the unsuccessful members of the Dip stand by and take secondary money? There are way too many egos and far to many chiefs for this tribe to stand pact.
Do you honestly think the like’s of JR Writer, 40 cal, Hell Rell, and the rest of Harlem super friends will happily take Camron, Jim Jones, and Juelz Santana’s sloppy seconds? When you have members of your crew going to jail for street crimes, things can’t be as good as you say. If everyone is eating, what is the point of pulling a robbery? They do not have the mainstream notoriety that is needed to gain the status a true Dynasty needs. Dipset has nothing over any other alleged “super group” that makes them stand out. They are the baseball team with no closer, the football team without a franchise quarterback, the basketball team without a go-to guy. They are a team of lyrical role players, and trust me, this is eating at them. You don’t think it bothers Hell Rell when he leaves New York and no one knows his name? JR Writer definitely doesn’t want to be Cam’ron’s sidekick for the rest of his career. I can guarantee to you that he has ambitious thoughts and idea’s of his own. Eventually his frustrations will boil over, maybe sooner than we know.
There has also been rumored tension between 40 Cal and Camron, as well as JR Writer and Jim Jones. There have been rumbles among the Dipset family that certain artists are not happy with the way their projects are being handled. They may have been a strong unit before, but the fastest way to destroy a strong team is from within. Now that we are at the funeral and the first pillars of soil are being thrown on the casket, I can not help but shake my head in a manner that says it all. This death was no mistake. It was meant to happen.
Do I regret it? In a way I do, but when you put the gun to your own head, pity can not easily follow the aftermath of your decision. It takes so much to make a true dynasty and when you do have one, it is a forced to be reckoned with for a long time. Everyone on that team seems to succeed and everyone who is NOT on the team either wants to join them or hates them with a deep seeded passion. What mainstream artist wants to be a part of Dipset? What mainstream artist have they been able to sign? They can’t even get a mainstream distribution deal, instead settling for Koch and Asylum. Hip Hop Dynasties do not have to work as hard to sell records or even to attract fans. Their name alone sells records, and sells out stadiums. Their presence alone strikes fear into the competition. They are known worldwide and have permanent fixtures at the top of the charts. Classic albums are not taboo to them and platinum status alone is a failure. Everyone seems like a winner and everyone is on the same team, watching each others back, with no one able to take away from their limelight.
In retrospect, there is nothing left to do but put a dozen roses and a mixtape over their grave. Dipset is dead. You have been to the funeral and now you can watch with your own two eyes how they shoot each other down and die the death of a thousand failures.
COMMENTS
<-- prepares for the backlash.
I tip my hat to Lyrical Thought! You got some good points in this article. I have a feeling your about to catch hell for this one! LMAO!!! Good Shit!
You speak the truth.
Aint no backlash Airkat, that's real talk as real as it gets. When ur team doesn't ride with the captain then it's a wrap.
When Jay had beef, Beanie, Bleek, Free and all them dudes had Jay back. When 50 had beef, Banks, Buck, Yayo and all them had 50 back. Who has Cam's back: NO ONE. IT'S OFFICAL DIPSET IS DEAD!!!!! IMA MAIL CAMRON SOME FLOWERS.
you aint doin shit.. n if you did no matter who gon ride for cam you'd still get smacked by ne nigga that fuck wit him.. thats real rap.. so keep ur bitch ass flower comments to ya dam self.. fake ass nigga..
Lyrical Thought, well written, I agree 100%....Dipset's greatest downfall will come from within the camp, now that this beef is going on, you gonna see niggas pointin fingers at each other.....good post Lyrical Thought....
Damn looks like the Dips are gonna have to put up or shut up
MJ - you damn right about that. If dipset niggas come together and all go at 50 and G-Unit I will have some respect for them niggas. I don't see it happening.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Jimmy on G-Unit. LMAO!!!
MJ, make sure they pink....
LOL No doubt ima mail Cam some pink tulips.
Every crew splits up at some point! Bad thing is niggas like Hell Rell, JR & the rest of the soldiers probably will not get a solo deal anywhere if dipset ever break up.
I think this is too soon, I have to wait and see if the rest of dipset will get in this battle before I can declare the dipset finish.
I don't know Radamez there is always Kanye's Label GOOD MUSIC. LMAO
....lol....
Yo Radamez, Hell Rell and JR Writer are known through Dipset, them niggas wont ever get a deal anywhere else, you right....but Im sure them niggas can audition for the munchkins on the Wizard of Oz, ghetto bootleg version.....
Cam started Dipset and he destroyed Dipset. It's that simple.
J-Crack and MJ - all i can say is OH SHIT!!!!! LMFAO!!!! HAHAHAHAHAH!!! I was thinking maybe those little Oompah Loompahs in Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory!!
Lil Wayne, JR Writer, and Hell Rell gon start their own record label called "Can't Get On Any Six Flags Rides Records".
lol damn MJ, that shit was funny.....
Hell Rell, JR Writer and Juelz all 5'7, and that nigga Chubbie Baby is shorter than Hell Rell, that nigga like 5'6.....I mean who can take them niggas seriously?? I still fucks with Juelz, he nice on the mic, and Jimmy gets a little more respect from me for not actin like a fuckin idiot on Hot97, but Cameran done lost his mind, I honestyly believe you wont see Jimmy or Juelz help Cammie, maybe Hell Rell but hes totally irrelevant to the game, that nigga aint got no money, no hit record, no nothin, so he dont count......Jr Writer might hit 50 with his bookbag, but thats bout gangsta as Dipset gonna get.....
aight Im out yall, peace to the usual suspects, yall know who yall are.....
Im finna bounce too, all the real niggas stay up yall know who yall are.
good article...dips will be at funeral home near you but too me its not just the dips that are going to funeral its also g-unit as well....I dont get hype to hear both of them no more..and I havent heard one person like damn i gotta get that new g-unit cd..they aint hot in the street nomore...I'l give the dips this right now they getting more attention in the street than g-unit..might not be like that in sales but niggas be likin the dips but then again muthafuckas dont know about the real hip hop...remember hip hop is not all about being hard and who got money... to many niggas be wanting that lil bootsie bullshit or young joc...its time for some new blood to shine....termanology..saigon..non-phixon(underated)...leave these lames alone.........Hallelujah "holla back"..
this is bullshit and lies
Dipset has rode with Cam'ron on EVERY BEEF. This one JUST started and the dips have dissed G-Unit already.
JR Writer-Suit up,Hell Rell & JR Writer-murder mase who? was a diss at G-unit and mase.
Juelz and Jim Jones rode with cam'ron during the Nas Beef and STILL DOES
JR Writer,Jim Jones,Juelz,40 Cal,UnKasa,Agallah,Hell Rell,and Bezel rode with cam'ron during the Rocafella beef.
Juelz,Unkasa,Hell Rell,Jim Jones,and JR Writer rode with cam'ron dissing mase
EVERY SINGLE BEEF they have been a team dont do this shit like they dont ride with cam'ron.
and Jim Jones and Tony Yayo have had problems for a WHILE now anyway.
shit..go cop that new psycho les cd....support the niggas that gonna make good music for the people and not just the ones doing for they pocket books!!
"diplomat immunity man why even botha" Words from T.I. im talkin to you from the king album
dipset aint goin no where either is 50 i dont know about g-unit though its all gone be the same after 50 album drop it'll be back to normal 50 just gon get more sells on his album and shit probably break a record or some silly shit like thatbut aint neither one of them gon end each others career its not the same rap game it use to be like the email up top said anyone with a hot beat is hip hops icon rap changed too much for the ending careers thing if jay couldnt end cam's career last year then its not the same game its all about catchy hooks and beat half the people who buy music now a days listen to it anyway the how the laff taffy song went platinum i couldnt believe that shit myself you cant change rap now the record labes did this shit to rap blame it on them and thats talkin for real
this is too peaceful here imma wait till Pookie and some other dipset groupies get here and the usual will shoot them down and I will laugh and laugh lolz
50 cent vs camron= SNITCH vs FAG........ and dipset vs g-unit= TRASH VS TRASH
so this beef wouldnt get far
I'm outtie yall stay pimpin
lol im not even a dipset fan and i could prove so much shit in that article wrong. lol g-unit fans go hard man. you're too early homie...
um what does the height or size of somebody have to do with anything?...anyways you could tell infighting was happening way back when un kasa left, and you're right if they do die it gonna be becuz of themselves. I guess i'll keep listening to my Children of The Corn and my D-BLOCK
Lil Wayne, JR Writer, and Hell Rell gon start their own record label called "Can't Get On Any Six Flags Rides Records".
lmfao...thats sum funnyass shit my nigga
are you fuckin serious ??? i'm not down with dip like that but wtf did 50 fuckin pay someone for this shit..dipset is hot..u can't say they are not..they are not always hot..but they are...they are different everyone one else is gunit wanna bees fuck that if u really think about it...tell me a fcukin hot gunit song that is out? just 1? come on..NONE. i could see dipset breaking up tho..when money is involved it parts ways..but i bet they won't forget nor regret where they came from..i rather say i'm in dipset than gunit..what that the fuck is a hotrod? mobb deep is from the fuckin 90's..MOP!!!???!!! come on man..olivia album even come out???i seriously don't even know??..banks hot in the south 50 is gunit. yayo and banks are back ups..
i ment buck is hot in the south..
i don't understand why people always APPEAR to be taking sides in beefs and with groups like the muddasuckas is paying you or even know you. ya be taking this shit way to seriously in my book, just calm down and listen to the music that pleases your ears and get off of these artists dicks that won't throw any of us a penny
yea u rite anyone wit a hot beat example rich boy hot beat catchy tune now he all over the place
fuck Cam...that's it.
"HIT'EM UP"
god damn, but on some reel shit, i put up a pic in skool n out of a class of 28 students, only 1 knew who he was, den went on to say he was weak, an dis nigga bangs Byrdgang(its dipsets n byrdgangs all ova chi town).... now das fucked up
Um, this beef has just started and they're saying Cam aint bein backed up by his partners... Thats a bitch-made youngin mentality if you think his partners are spose to jump in while they goin @ it one on one... The way I see it, Cam called this out on his own, and doesn't need to send anyone else at 50 right now... This beef is between FIFTY CENT and CAMRON, it has not escalated to Dipset Vs. G Unit YET. And somethin tells me 50 will be the first one to send one of his pawns @ Cam, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER FAILED BEEF HE WAS IN. Budden, D Block And Game. like I said b4, 50 won't win this battle lyrically.
Ive Said This The Past Few Days.Well I Said Cam Downfall Was Because Of Dipset.Guess We Have Different Opinions Dont We.
And I Agree With Whooz.1st Off I Do Think Also 50 Going To Send Someone In 1st.Cam Of Course The Set Gon Have His Back.But It Dont Matter If They Do Have His Back.This Is Exactly What Yall Going To Say "Drop A Album 1st Then Diss Someone" LoL Exactly What Yall Going To Say.And I Do Not Disagree On That.But Either Way Yall GOing To Shitt On The Set.
Anyway I Do Not Think This Is THe End Of The Set.Just From Me Knowing And Listen To Dip Set They A Family They Aint Gon Break Up No Homo.And Someone Show Me The Rumor Where It Says Theres Tension Between Writer And Jones.And Cam And 40 Cal.
But Good Article By The Way.Im Feeling That Pic With 50.Even Though It Isnt True.
And I Notice Alot Of Real Niggaz Was In This Article:G4L/J.Crack/MJ/radamez/
But Wheres Makaveli ? LoL.I Know Yall Was Happy To See This Article.Out Of All Of You Im The Only Dipset Supporter And Thats Not Including Cam'Ron Cause That Dude Lost His Mind LOl.
Lil Wayne, JR Writer, and Hell Rell gon start their own record label called "Can't Get On Any Six Flags Rides Records".
LMFAO!!!!! MJ you too funny homie
heres a picture floatin around on the web i thought eveyone would get a good laugh at...
http://www.massappealmag.com/img/page/gallery/jim%20jones1.jpg
IS THAT NEW YORKS RIDER MA!?!?! LMAO
Couldnt have put it any better. It's a WRAP
this one going to have some wet faces over this page
I can hear all the bitchin and crying from dipset fans as we speak
I love it
beside birds don't army up,they fly away
Lyrical Thought>>>>>> damn damn damn, u nailed that opening! I couldn't have put it any better than that...well I probably would've added like waaay more curse words but fuck it (see lol)!
Yall are funny as hell though reading through yall comments have me in the office dying! Especially the "Can't Get On Any Six Flags Rides Records" LMAO!
But as far as Hell Rell, and 40Cal and the "others"... Don't be surprised if 50 sings them himself just to throw the last bit of "dirt" on Dipsets grave... seriously. Yall know he's vindictive as hell...
keep that good shit coming and in the meantime as always fam
~Be Eazy
Cams comeback was pretty weak.... he got nothing on 50 right now after that weak comeback... i'm curious to see if they keep it between them or will dipset and g -unit get involved ..
I hope they just need to keep it between them.. Cam don't seem serious.. the way he rapped it was like a joke.. 50 was serious in his shtt...
Good article... the truth hurt. Dipset can't battle G-unit nor can cam'ron go head to head with 50.. how many dudes u know put out a freestyle diss song with descent video for it? Not many dudes can't because they can't.. No money,No honey..lol.
Dipset is dead!!! Not hip hop
um dumbass no one said anything about hip hop beng dead on this Thread, you fucking Dick Smoker
"This beef is between FIFTY CENT and CAMRON, it has not escalated to Dipset Vs. G Unit YET. And somethin tells me 50 will be the first one to send one of his pawns @ Cam, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER FAILED BEEF HE WAS IN."
You're fucking retarded. He already went at Cam himself, did you even see the fucking video?
I never liked Dipset anyway, but its a wrap for Cameron I have never seen a guy who tries to act so hard comment on the looks of men so much. I loved 50's diss I haven't got tired of watching the video yet.
Well Mile They Aint Dead.Well Some People In There Opinion Think They Are.I Dont Think So Really.But I Dont Agree With Anything Cam Been Doing Or Saying Lately.
We Just Have To Wait And See.Honestly When Cam'Ron Album Drops I Can See It Now.Mad People Gon Shit On Em Cause Of His Record Sales LoL.
Cam'Ron Next Album His 1st Week Is Not Going To Sell Over 100,000 This 1st Week I Just No It.Unless He Come Out With Some Crazy Shit.But His 1st Week Sales Going To Be Low I Just Know It.Hell Rell Going To Do JR Writer Numbers.Santana And Jones if They Keep Doing THey Thang Maybe Jones Can Hit Gold And Santana Go Platinum Again.And 40 Cal Who Knows When That Nigga Dropping A Album
Im Still Waiting For Stack Bundles To Drop.Shit Maybe He Can Save Dipset LoL.For People That Dont Know Stack Bundles Is Signed To Jim Jones.
please Stack bundles is gonna get as many spins as a Flat Tire, you know how long he been with the Dip, Come on, he dont even get Smack DVD Burn
40cal name means Calvin from 140th if you didn't know and dipset isn't dead IMO. cam brought juelz up to the lime light and jimmy. he trynna get the rest of them there but its failing right now. i mean you can't blame the artists 100% for failing i mean look what they playing on the radio:nelly furtado, justin timberlake, robin thicke, etc everything is either white hip hop/R&B or just plane R&B they not even playing gunit records, both cam and 50 need this to get themselves back to being relevant IMO
Stack Bundles Is Actually A Cool Dude.
Shit I Prefer Him Over No Life Garbage Ass.
all i gotta say is why is everyone on 50 cent nuts?...if this Cam and 50 beef had not started this article prolly wouldnt be published... This is exactly what Killa whats anyway, exposure Cam is not as stupid as many people think He understands music as a whole is selling like it used to and thats why he is on a independent label, dipset represent a street movement selling 100k-500k its about street music..And that writers block 4 is da crack
You Know stl_hova_05 For A Dipset Fan You do Make A Point.
Theres Alot Of Dipset Fans That Be Talking Out They Ass.
And Yea They Are A Street Movement.But Why Are They Trying TO Compete WIth People Like 50 And Hov ?
And Yea If This 50 And Cam Thing Would Of Never Started This Article Would OF Never Been Made LoL.
R.I.P baby ballas, toy rappas..that watt ya get for screamin out da name to bring tha boi backwards........
LoL @ Milehigh.
It Aint That Serious And Homie Did Make A Point.And Yea He Getting Negative Exposure
cam can't put out the quality of a beef record that 50 can.. this is what 50 does best... he is the best at making diss or beef records...
cam fcked up... why beef with the guy who is the best at beefing...
its like the taco bell dog barking an niting your ankles as opposed to getting locked and shook by a pitt......
man fuck all these niggas EXCEPT D-BLOCK, FABOLOSO,CASSIDY,PAPOOSE AND A FEW OTHAS LOL THIS IS MY ALL-STAR TEAM
ur allstar teamis wack...fuck that camron is gonna get kicked out of dips...jimmys gonna say peace and let him take rell and writer...juelz stays...and its a new better dips...fuck unnecessary beef, especially beef no one wants to be a part of, beef with 50, the nigga is not lyrically better but people follow him..hes sold like 10 million so people listen to him more....im a dips fan but cam is gettin old...capo is the new CEO..but cam did have a better track than 50's funeral...curtisssssssss
dips aint dead...cam will die though...sorry to say but he fucked with the wrong nigga....all you see is 50's funeral on this site...not cam's curtis
I hope Cam got something up his sleeve .. becuz if he don't he gonna get destroyed...he better do something we have never see him do an up his game... right now he just lookn liek a scrub thats only winning in his own mind...
julz and jr and jimmy the only ones on the dips worth anything anyways...
MileHigh you said some real talk before with one of your posts...how do you go from one month with a crazy buzz everyone and there mother yellin baaallin but the next month everyone talkin about how your dyin...thats what happens when you go against the boss (50) that is just crazy to me one month you think your on top everythin is all great you poppin bottles of sizzurp in the koch records office and the next minute the world is buryin you lmao...right there you can tell cam cant compete with 50...everyone one sayin cam is done cause of what he did its not the other way around
and i think stack bundles is hot i fucked with him way before he was ridin with jones and the "membors of birdgang" he was on desert storm hes one of my favorite underground dudes but i was kinda pissed when he hooked up with jones cause now dude me dressin just like him...you see him in the backround of the we fly high vid and jones aint gonna put him out anytime soon but hes got a sick flow he was actually on the track with game and joe budden that started the whole g unit beef with budden over that westside connection beat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcASI8SEt50&NR
im back....
i said it before lyrical thought dipset is breakin up
YO I AGREE 100%. THIS ARTICLE IS ON POINT. I GLAD TO SEE OTHERS AGREE. THIS IS THE END OF THE DIPSHITS. ABOUT FUCKIN TIME!!!!!!!!!!
DIPSHITS, LMAO!!!!!yeah thats a good name 4 them, but yeah I agree with this article. The DIPSHITS were never tight and never will be
my allstar team is wack wat are you smoking everybody i named is better than everyone in dipset and gunit IMO and i say that being a fan of hip hop not just certain people unlike most ppl on this site obviously