Hola folks, I'm back..... Took a break, anyways, let's begin.
I need everyone to repeat after me. "Unity"
The south is very well united. But its a few areas missing that unity, but no bigger place missing unity than New York. If it wasn't for the collapse of such powerhouses as G-Unit, Rocafella & DipSet among others we probably wouldn't hear most of the southern music that's promoted today. Those three groups could still be running the rap game today if they didn't let things get in between the music.
But the even bigger problem is the fans.
You people complain too damn much. More specifically, the "hip hop heads" are those who do the most bitching. Y'all complain about the simplest shit too. You cry over The T-Pain Effect, music on the radio & sales among other shit. If you don't like what's on the radio, turn it off, if you don't like hearing the T-Pain Effect, turn it off. Because by not turning it off, you prove the record execs right. The T-Pain effect is a gimmick used by most to get promo and by listening whether you like it or not just proves that its an effective tool interest people into listening. Hip Hop Heads have this sort of complex, the word for it escapes me at the moment but, y'all believe sales don't dictate quality, but you believe anyone who you think is a good MC, you think they should sell records. See how stupid that sounds.
It's impossible to sell records off skills alone. You need promo and a sound to reach the MASSES. Artists like Joe Budden and Talib and all those "emcees", they don't make music for the masses and they accept where they are as of now, so they make music towards their solid fan bases and sell to those alone but y'all hate on others like Soulja Boy who go out and get those fans that others can't reach. I wouldn't go out and purchase an album from him but his music is what is, its for partying and hanging out and those people who do such on a regular should go out and support him, and they did, he went platinum even tho at least 60% of his album had been heard by most of his fans like 7 months before he even blew up.
Don't expect any change in the trends in the rap game, so either stop listening or find some underground artists to bump.
O yea, speaking trends..... Word on the street is KanYe's next LP, 808's & Heartbreak, is said to be heavy on the T-Pain effect, so yea..... if you don't like it, don't listen, there's no reason to bitch and moan..... Dec. 16.
Side Note: This is my favorite song of the moment....
COMMENTS
wtf lmao camron song
thats all i fuck wit is underground music
also, people complain WAY too much about LYRICISM
u dont have to have a punchline every bar to be a good artist
i think a rapper should have DECENT lyricism but not everybody has to be a lupe, papoose, nas, etc..
i think FLOW is more important than lyricism...shit u could have the best lyrics in the world but if u have a boring ass flow im not listening
if u have a flow/voice that sounds good over tracks people listen to the actual shit ur sayin without trying to twist through metaphors and subliminals
some rappers (jay, nas) are talented in both areas but u dont have to be a legend to be a good artist
open ur ears up
and that cam song is dumb as hell but its funny lol
not ALL mainstream music is bad.
What Fat Joe doin on the left? i thought this was a picture of southern artists unity?
fat joe is a southern artist now.. where u been?
Wow. Can your article be any more general?
Your grouped "hip-hop heads" as hating auto tune and loving for the most part "under ground" music. That auto-tune shit was hot ass fuck when Roger Troutman, George Clinton and others used it in the past. Even when T-Pain used it, it was hot. But when every body and they mother uses it, it gets played out and corney.
I like listen to everything, radio included. But when they play the same shit every 2 hours, I get frustrated, turn that shit off, and put in my Cds.
Also it's not impossible to sell records off of skills alone, Eminem and Jay are proof of that. Others like TI, Jeezy, Game.... are proving that too. You can sell records with skill, it's all about marketing (the 1st single, release date, promotion etc...) People you mentioned like Talib and Budden were never known for doing major numbers. It's not that they're "too lyrical" or "underground" they just don't sell period.
yea man....as soon as new york fell off fat joe packed his sorry ass up and headed down to the florida to chill with khaled for the rest of his career.......
and your comment about expecting underground rappers to sell is just ludicrous.....i have never once expected or cared how much lupe, talib or mos def sell......the only time i have ever cared was when kanye wiped 50's assssss all over the floor.....
but other than that complaint, SPOT ON OLD CHUM....
and dude who said eminem and jay sell cd's off skills alone need to wake up and realize the multi-million dollar machines that were running in behind both of them to help sell their records....if anything they are worse examples than anybody else.....
gayest group of niggas i've seen , i ain't even read the article yet
Initially, I wasn't going to chime in, and I haven't lately, but
--------------- This is a DUMB FUCKIN' TOPIC ------------------------------------
I say that because, the writers of a blog shouldn't criticize the comments made by the contributors. Simply speaking, since the context criticizes about 75% of what gets said on these blogs and news topics, suppose all of those people, including me, actually listened? Then, there'd be NO WEBSITE. Point blank.
I remember defsounds when many topics at a time would only have like 15 comments... It was only once in a blue moon if topics got 50-60 comments, and now, topics are getting 100+ comments with regularity. And, I don't mean people double and triple posting, either.
Maybe you guys forgot that, but I didn't. You guys create blogs and editorials downing and criticizing the contributors comments; let the contributors do that to each other. Because, within all the b.s. and all the nonsense, some of these guys, younger AND older, SOMETIMES hit nails on the coffin and are right on the money. AND, even in the so-called, DUMB ASS comments, a lot of times they DO provide entertainment, regardless.
That's why I come on here, for the news AND the entertainment value. Maybe, sometimes I say a thing or two that enlightens someone's thought processes or teaches someone something. Sometimes I piss people off or am DEAD WRONG. Same goes for everyone else. So, just relax, take a deep breath, count to ten, and let people say what they want to say and big up their favorite artists, whether it be Weezy, Jeezy, T.I., Lupe, Cam, Nas, Lauryn, or Jay!
Relaxxxxxxxxxxxxx.... I'm out!
And, MY favorite song, AT THE MOMENT, is Snoop's THOSE GIRLS....
fuck youngunobaby and fuck the south(excludin TI) with your simple ass corny lyrics and bubblegum beats yall only makin bitch songs for bitches cause thats all there is down there in the dirty dirty
Those saying the North is wack now, how are you gonna say that with all of this from 5 burroughs of 1 city ALONE:
Bronx got Fat Joe, Remy Ma, Big Pun, Hell Rell, Mysonne, Drag-On, & Camp Lo.
Brooklyn put out Busta Rhymes, Sheek Louch, GZA, Lil Mama, Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Fabolous, Papoose, Joell Ortiz, O.C., AZ, Ill Bill, GangStarr, KRS-One, Phife Dawg, Pumpkinhead, Masta Ace, Keith Murray, Jay-Z, The Notorious B.I.G., Masta Killa, ODB, Rise, Foxy Brown, & Big Daddy Kane.
Queens gave us Stack Bundles, A Tribe Called Quest, Grafh, 50 Cent, Black Sheep, Organized Konfusion, Nas, Kool G Rap, Mobb Deep, LL Cool J, Pharoahe Monch, Big Noyd, Cormega, Lloyd Banks, & Styles P.
Staten Island gave us most of Wu-Tang: RZA, Method Man, Ghostface Killah, Raekwon, U-God, & Inspectah Deck.
Manhattan gave us 2Pac, Big L, Ma$e, Cam'Ron, Bloodshed, Juelz Santana, Joe Buddens, Loon, Jim Jones, JR Writer, & Kurtis Blow.
^^^ Psyber, Keith Murray is from Long Island, not Brooklyn.... Carlton Ave! You still make a valid point though.
cosign with charismatic!!
actually, Keith Murray was born in Brooklyn, but he just doesn't rep it, since he lived in Long Island immediately after that.
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Keith+Murray
Wikipedia also mentions Brooklyn, before Long Island.
Wow, lmao... Dude, I was BORN in Philly, but I'm not from Philly. I'm from Camden. Where you're from is where you grew up at... where you did your rippin' and runnin'... where u learned 2 be a man. Keith Murray is FROM LONG ISLAND...
idk what u been readin chosen few. u gettin this shit all mixed up. first of all, the t pain effect WAS cool when t pain brought that shit back. and remember cher used it? yea, it sounds good when ppl use it while they sing, WITH GOOD VOICES. but when u get lil wayne, with a terrible voice as is, singing with it on every god damn song he makes, it gets mad played out. and plenty of skilled artists sell, its all about marketing n promotion. u gotta get everyone in the country to hear ur shit n u gotta b better then the next regular mc. i dont understand u chosen few... how can anyone b happy about kanye using the autotoner now? i like kanye for his ridiculous production n cuz i like the way he raps. i dont wanna hear kanye sing, i dont wanna hear him rap with it even, i dont wanna hear wayne n t pain on all his tracks using the same effect. its already played out n i liked those artists for who they were i dont like them because they r using the same thing that someone else got famous for. give it up
wow ^^^DaKush...fuck me??...*yawn* so real on tha internet nigga...bloggin ass nigga....its easy to talk shit to a nigga u mite neva see in yo life....but ima let u puff ya chest wit dat e-thuggin shit on the internet...i try not ta waste my time wit dat...i jus simply state my opinion on shit...
PSYBER KAYOS, wit da names u jus gave u kinda contradicting yoself homie, we talkin bout upnorth muzik as of late, B.I.G, Big Pun, & Pac didn't live 2 c dis millineum, Wu Tang aint hit da charts in years along wit Cam'Ron, Ma$e, Loon, & plenty of dem otha ppl,I'm 4rm da South, I neva heard of Rise, Mysonne, Phife Dawg, Bloodshed or Big Noyd, A tribe called Quest definitely didnt do nuttin in lyke 15 yrs & Kurtis Blow and Big Daddy Kane? their latest trackz r older than me, KRS-One aint doin much either, Joe Buddens talk a good game, but iz it gettin him anywhere @ da moment, how many ppl bought Rotten Apple (Lloyd Banks last album)? has Ortiz or Papoose came out wit an album, let alone any REAL classic material (evry hot trakk iz not classic), 2 b honest, out of yo list of lyke 65, onli 6 iz n there wit a good argument as of keepin da North alive rite now as of late (50, Hova, Nasir Jones, Loso, Kweli & Busta)
cosign every single thing u said. Da truth
Who??
That nigga killa wild for that, thats that "Come Home Wit Me" Flow
somebody was a little mad b4 writing this.......fuck soulja boy
"they say Hip Hop's dead, no I think its just the fans"-Wale........good read, and I too am apart of the "Fuck a Khaled" movement
WALE is the truth.......solid quotable right there.....
I agree, 100%. Every time I try to make those points I'm trashed for it. Glad you immortalized them with an article. Good read.
ya i hear ya
yea i agree but i wish kanye would jus spit. i mean i dont care about the tpain shit but i think he should jus do somethin like outkast did with speakerboxx and the love below u kno like half and half so we get both. that would be pretty cool i think and i think everyone would be cool wit him doin that. im gonna cop it regardless tho kanye is sick no matter if hes singing or rappin
co-sign, philly rap with t.i. on your thing talking about how good kanye is.. haha just playin, kanye is dope reguardless, i agree
auto tune is killing hip hop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Co-sign that. Every rapper is sounding like a Gay Robot with the Auto-Tune/T-Pain effect/Gay Robot voice. Rappers, just rap.
Song of the moment?!
I see you Jockin Jokesta, Jockin Jockin Jokesta!
You really need to grow up and get a life. It's fucking music....
Im crackin up after reading that reply man...now that's funny.
Oh yeah, judging by the pic I guess the north has given us Fat Joe...Damn! lol
i agree...alot of new york is wack...but...dnt hate on tha song jus cuz u cant relate fuck boy.....
tcf i am a hip hop head so i do complain about whats going on in the industry. everyone soundin the same cannot be a good thing. i think the thing that frustrates hip hop heads the most is the lack of originality in the game. beefin is another thing that is fuckin up hip hop. niggas are using beef as a gimmick these days, that is so lame. anyone that is not frustratin by this lame shit is lame themselves. another problem is the the quality of the content has fallen off. i remember when what an mc said on the mic really mattered. now its all about beats, hooks, and lies that get niggas paid. who the hell respects a liar, but another liar. as for new york hip hop, all them nigga's want to do is battle. murder mook, math, jae milz etc.... yall seen them smack dvd's. battlin on the street aint gettin em anywhere, most especially from the record lables.
yo about that New York shit.....u jus stated 'everyone soundin the same cannot be a good thing' so instead of doin or soundin like everyone else does them New York niggas doin they thing takin it bak to how niggas use to do it, huddled in a group spittin against each otha. So instead of gettin ahead in the 'industry' murda mook, jae, and the rest of them New York niggas is doin it how they want they doin it the way they grew up on wut got them hooked into hip hop they neva forgot where they came from unlike alot of these fake ass rappas gettin to into the media and shit.
i hate the t-pain effect shit and i do turn it off
i only hate when people like kanye who's album i was anticipating says he's gonna do the whole album with it
i agree wit u sause. just goes to prove one of my points about originality. as far as the t-pain effect, he bit that shit from roger troutman(computer love) all you youngins check it out. only a fake ass will copy a copycat. aint none of these niggas these days original so fuck em all.
I'm gonna start blogging with an Auto-Tune..BLAAOOW
how about this site put up songs by blu or mickey factz
some real hip hop soul not the same yawwnniinnggggg
music.
DURTY SOUF
South kak, upstate ima collard green cornbread eating geechi ass nugga....
And post some more south shit on this bitch.
TELL EM!!!!!!!!....yall sum fuckin haters...half of yall bitch ass internet nerds aint even from new york n yall trash niggas fa tellin tha truth...THE SOUTH RUNS THIS BITCH!!!!...i dnt give two fucks about gettin trashed....yall niggas know im rite....it prolly eats at yall niggas at nite when yall sleep that when u wake the south is still gonna be more relevant in rap than any other coast...does make u mad??? do u get jealous or sad??? do you wanna boycott bet bcuz damn near erry video comes from us southern ass niggas???....or r yall jus pretendin to be hip hop heads so yall gotta defend the east coast to death of u??? get a fuckin life...even if yall computer ass niggas hate on the south til yall blue in tha face, we still gon be here....WE RUN RAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
^^^ man when u said u where a little bias u weren't lying but honestly your right south has been doin some big shit and yea sometimes it does seem that NY has fell off but yo please don't label NY rappers as fall offs i mean i don't no one person that ever said HOV fell off or is wack but not only jay i mean there is still talent in NY some of the biggest problem is some people just stopped really tryin etc.
ok i wasn't sayin all of ny is wack...i was jus sayin that the fact that the south does have alot more relevant rappers than new york does....sorry if i came off harsh about it...but defsounds be on dat bullshit when it comes to regional music....as much music as the south be puttin out...we lucky to get a track erry week on dis site....thats why alotta niggas on here dont respect the south...they livin off the opinions of internet niggas...make yo own opinions about wat u listen to....as for me ima bump dis so-called "ignorant bubble gum coon music" til i fuckin die...n fuck ya if u dnt like it....
t.i. sucks? fuck outta here and u jus completely ruined ur point becuase u said all the south is shit but u like jeezy and bun b, you dont like luda?!?
I hope ur not talking about The roots from philly... if u are u need to kill urself...
You know what is completely HOMO?
When Defsound niggas diss an ENTIRE coast. If you generally like hip hop music for the most part, how the fuck you gonna dislike a whole coast?
You people are ridiculous
yo tg the roots are from philly kid and that aint no dirty south shit. not too mention you cant even compare a group that records their music with live instruments to some whack ass shit like wayne or TI. the roots are more of a band than a crew, and jeezy is like the guy who throws them water bottles on stage if you wanna talk skill. a get a map and a better sense of what real music is.
man people like this are the reason hip hop died
1. people wont even try to listen to shit now a days
2. people just really like to hate
3. people are just stuck in their own lil world where one coast is better then the others
I dont think he's talkin bout The Roots, I think he's talkin bout The NAPPY Roots, datz da onli way i can figure dat 1, cuz if anybodi sayz The Roots sukkx they need 2 go get bakk on da short bus & tell da driver 2 go ova a cliff
mayne why dont defsound post up that new music video with chris brown i just watched it on bet and that shit was dope.
Camron funny as shit
The Chosen Few.....
I fucks witchu man. U said what alot of these niggaz on here needed to hear.
Man this is one of the realest blogs I've read
got damn im glad dude posted dis article.. exactly wat i be tryna to tell haters
fat joe aint even from the south?
lol at fav. song of the moment...before it even loaded i guessed what it was by miracle. I been bumpin that cam, though! People act like he isnt an entertaining rapper! People been sleepin on him lately. He needs to crawl out of that hole that 50 cent "put him into" and start puttin out some records!!!
50 aint do shit....last I heard Public Enemy Number 1 shits on Curtis....and it was a dam mixtape lol
Hip hop dead man the south aint kill it new york aint kill it the rappers just got lazy hooked to the format just to sell records and i kno its a business first but what ever happened to being original everybody hopin on that auto tune bullshit. it was all right when Roger Troutman used it but u didn't c 2pac using it on California Love. If 2pac,Biggie,Pun was still here half these raps wouldn't get played on the radio. What ever happened to the substance in rap muthafuckahz selling dreams the average person cant make it rain in the club or b flippin bricks yeah rite. u flippin bricks but u a legit millionaire off rap u gotta b stupid as fuck to even go near some work real pimps dont rap real hustlers dont rap killers dont rap. u gon snitch on ur self one day they gon ban rap cuz of the poor subject matter. If the media stop accepting these wack ass rappers then they'll step there game up in the booth. In 1995 this bullshit out now wouldn't get played. there is hot down south rappers T.I Scarface Bun B OutKast luda they greats but gucci mane Lil'scappy wack dudes like that aint gon last. it's a enough money 4 everbody to get New York just got 2 invovled in that battle shit all that gun talk like u shootin out on stage punchlines every bar and the other NY cats got on the spaced out shit making it 2 hard for the average person 2 understand the undergound cats cant blow now because nobody wanna support something different every chings to trends now like school kids but when i went 2 school niggaz tried 2 stand out Nas was rite this shit DEAD im talk bout HIP HOP the love 4 it.
go post outtaspace. you one of the few that know what they talkin bout.
i love reading THE CHOSEN FEW's shit, he tells it like it is..unlike jokesta who is biased as fuck
Music is juss bandwaggons I don't fuckin care, I have yet to hear an artist that I didn start to like til later in their career, anyway juelz and fab are comin back out fuck bein featured on other people shit listen to their own tracks
For real i'm glad that you posted this because hip hop fans are too damn picky! i remember before C3 came out Wayne was getting soooo much love no matter what he put out, now it seems that alllot of cats hate everything he does! its interesting cause i'm always on here and it seems you really can't tell what the f*** people like anymore they bitch about every lil thing an artist does, i know i know its a difference between having a opinion and just bitching but for real .. i mean cats hate Fif... then the Game and Wayne and T-pain and so on and so forth so who the hell are cats listening to???
oh yea that new Helta Skelta song go hard!
oh yea the word "CLASSIC" is getting thrown around tooo damn much....its ok for an album to be good without it being a classic....
there goes houston, all over g units dick again, like i said before u suppose to be reppin texas, we bang screw down here not that g unit bullshit, move to new york if ur gonna be all over there dicks. and what the fuck is fat joe doing in that pic, there is nothing wrong with showing love to the south, but damn he's starting to act like he's actually from the south, he needs to start reppin the east