Joe Budden's Responds To Prodigy, And Saigon
MONDAY MAY 5, 2008



Brooklyn NY
“My main objective was to show that I’m a lyricist to be taken seriously; not just with the lyrics but with wordplay and every other element that comes with MC’ing, like being clever, witty, and versatile.”
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COMMENTS
yo he kept it real no scared shit....AND DON'T BRING WAYNE NAME UP IN THIS DICUSSION
QUESTION
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Is there ANY Hip-Hop droppin' this year or what???? I've copped ONE cd, AZ's Undeniable, which was pretty typical AZ - which is good for me, since I'm a fan. Nothin' wack, yet nothin' extraordinarily spectacular (like a say, One Mic, per se').
Anyhow, in the last 2 weeks, I've copped:
1. E=MC^2 - Mariah Carey; pretty good but not her best album.
2. Lyfe Change - Lyfe Jennings; not bad, though I'm still fond on his debut album. I love the track: Cops Up! ... got it bangin' on my myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/charismaticlee3
3. Shine - Estelle; she's no Amy, or even a Corinne, but her album is GREAT! On my recommendation, I don't know WHAT made me buy it, but this album gets EXTREMELY strong near the last 4 or 5 tracks. How often does that happen.
^^^^^^^ I know this is off topic but just wanted to get some feedback and perhaps some insight on what others have copped lately.
I only copped the sheek louch album silverback gorrilla so far...its pretty good. About to get that A.Z. as well, but as far as that, thats about it as of right now...
B,
Good look! On some real talk, I didn't even know Sheek Louch dropped an album... I MAY show him some love; I've never really been a fan of the L.O.X. outside of Jada. Jada is NASTY...
Somebody post Sheek's hottest verse!!
Charismatic..
The only thing I grabbed this year was that silverback 2...
BUT b4 you go get that, go get his FIRST cd...WALK WITT ME...
That is one of the best albums that was put out between ANY member of the LOX..
His best song on there (my opinion) is 3-5-4...I think thats track 12 or something..
But anyway, silverback is a pretty solid album..Nothing SPACTACULAR, But its hot regardless..
Supa Gangsta and Extrodinary Gentlemen by STYLES was a BANGER 2....
GO COP THEM JOINTS!!!!!!!!!
"The only thing I grabbed this year was that silverback 2"
I MEANT to say I copped that silverback ALSO like the dude above me said, not silverback 2...its not a sequel..
Why do niggas love to compare guys like Budden and Prodigy. 2 different niggas wit 2 different styles
if you want a killer album, get that hnic 2 from prodigy. shit is crazy, for real, but no one has listened to the shit
Matic, Badu's joint was far from her best, I put it on level with that Lyfe joint which had a few standout cuts. The American Ironman mixtape is art, creative genius. Jay-Z over the Ironman inatro's and Ghost over American Gangster, it gets no better. Elephant in the room and Elephant in the sand were equally boring with Joey gettin' the edge production wise, Rising Up(the roots) is easily head and shoulders above anything I've heard hip hop wise this year, and if you stray beyond hip hop, Gnarls Barkley put together a really good album as well. Oh, and the "Blood is thicker than water" mixtape is hot too, BWS outshine Dipset and Young Money(no surprise) but each crew had a gem or two on that one. It's been a good year, you just can't rely on the same ish, experiment.
Last word: notable singles...."Criminal"-The Roots ft. Truck North & Saigon.
"Everyone Nose"-N.E.R.D.
"Soldier"-Erykah Badu
"No Matter What"-T.I.
"Pain"-Game ft. Keyshia Cole
"All My Life"-Lil' Wayne
Okay, okay! I'm getting QUALITY commentary today!
Love to Skeeaz; I'll check out that 3-5-4 tonight when I get home from work. I copped Super Gangsta, the week it dropped; unfortunately, on 40,000 other people copped it with me. I am not really THAT fond of it, but it's cool.
Freeze, I was @ the store, STARING @ the Prodigy album, and just couldn't bring myself to do it. It was only $7, but I guess I STILL have repressed emotions from that Source article from '01 where he thoroughly made an ass of himself when Jay put him up on that Summer Jam screen, blamin' it on Ashanti, who DENIED (of course) the allegations, saying she didn't even know Jay then. I need to hear about 6 or 7 BANGERS for me to come to grips and cop that Prodigy album.
757, Big Doe Rehab over American Gangster? How about HIP-HOP ALBUM OF THE YEAR (2007)! Ghost put in that work; there was NO better album, though a lot sold more, which is MESSED UP! Is it the promotion or what? And, Erykah's album was THE WORST cd I ever heard in my life; I copped it off the strength of her name - I mean, c'mon, it's ERYKAH!! My dudes @ the barber shop didn't believe me so we banged it in there and EVERYONE agreed that it was straight GAR-BAHJ. Lyfe's joint, IMO, is WAYYYYY better!! Even so, 757, you put out a quality comment with some tracks I'm not too familiar with, so I'll check 'em out!
Thanx, guys!!!!
Matic, you got me a lil' twisted. "American Ironman," is a mixtape with Hov's lyrics over the Ironman beats, and Ghost's lyrics over the A.G. beats. Nothin' like hearin' American Dreamin' over the beat to Box in Hand. Ghost kills the Blue magic joint too.
Matic, you got me a lil' twisted. "American Ironman," is a mixtape with Hov's lyrics over the Ironman beats, and Ghost's lyrics over the A.G. beats. Nothin' like hearin' American Dreamin' over the beat to Box in Hand. Ghost kills the Blue magic joint too.
757,
Whatttttttttttt? I NEED 2 hear that thing, pronto!!
The DJ who mashed it is DJ Chong Wizard(never heard of him). I don't wanna put any links up here(Jokesta be buggin' sometimes) but Google "American Ironman," and you'll find links to cop or listen too it. Be sur to check out "Comic Book Dreamin," "Pray for Camay," & "Haunted."
Aiyyo, Skeeaz, I banged that Sheek Louch, 3-4-5! That story is Vicious!! Good look, on your recommendation!
Joe budden, that dude is vicious wit freestyles. 5th gear was sick...but as for this video, it was boring.
This nigga is smoking a cig. Thought he quit that shit..
lmao "Ruffle his feathers"..
lmao at the prodigy part
I totally agree. P do look sick, he's wack anyway.
ur retarted do u kno what fab hes talkin bout
real talk joe
damn, if you don't know what you're talking about, you should shut the fuck up!
For rill....
........... and your wrong, he's from the bay area
taylorrobjay is right about you being wrong...and i personally think Mistah F.A.B. would kill him in a battle cause i've seen him in freestyle battles. check em out on youtube.
or at least watch this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSZMeeB3dnk
Fab won...
First Off, Joe Buddens kept it real like a man...Good shit.
Another thing...JOE BUDDENS and a much more better MC then Prodirty. Prodigy doesn't come close to Buddens skill.
Saigon v Budden, in a Rap battle would be something incredible to listen to. Even though it would be much better to hear them together on the same track.
Atleast this Smacktube video wasn't A waste of time to watch.
This nigguh Budden said Prodigy wanted to go out with a bang so "BANG"...Lmao
tru folk good vid that nigga said prodigy was like the bobby brown of hip hop LOL
BUDDEN THE NEXT MEMBER OF SHADY RECORDS.
pff? he just dont have enough skill
buddens got a head on his shoulders... this interview made me like him even more
dude keeps it real
Not only did I watch all 8+ odd minutes of this interview which is very rare for me, but I agreed and concurred with everything Joey just said.
I like Saigon and I can understand why he would be angry about the punch & run line because everybody saw that video. But he should have kept it on wax since it was such a simple and clever diss.
One thing I like and have always liked about Prodigy is that he will say what he thinks about another rapper no matter who it is or what the consequences are. But Budden would murk P on wax, no questions.
Mood Music 3 is like an album to me and dosnt seem like a regular mixtape at all. Its one of the best albums of 2007 but it aint never counted as an album because its a "mixtape"
*much props to budden for keepin shit real*
Absolutely! Why people keep yellin' P is beyond a mystery to me. P's a has been. He was one of the best out, but since his style changed, his music began to deteriorate just like the way he looks, no homo. Budden hit that on the head, he do look like he on meth or sumthin'. I hate to bring Wayne on this post but if you notice, he's been fallin' off since he switched to the slow, syrup induced flow too. These guys rap like Ali and Holyfield talk, like they missin' some words, and they can barely get the one's out they spit. Just compare P's flow on "Apostle's Warning," to anything he spit since Infamy. Same with Wayne, compare "BMJR," to anything he's spit in the last six to eight months and you'll notice a dramatic change. All that dope is like goin' 12 rounds with a heavyweight, it takes alot out of you, especially for a known sickle cell nigga like P. As for Sai, he'll get over it. Sai and Joe are two of the best young East Coast cats out, they'll come together somewhere down the road. Hot line from Joey, at that.
u must aint heard mood muzik...any nigga on hear that says joe budden is wack needs to shut the fuck up step they hip hop game up and listen to mood muzik 2 & 3 other wise shut the fuck up
Joe Budden is that nigga!
Wankster
Haha Joe that nigga.....but yeh prodigy is a veteran but nah he aint won no beefssss
buddens is a beast! i fucks with joe.
yall are bugging ...prodigy been nice wit his but, buddens was right about him and sagion...joe said it best,"back and fourth talking wit a nigga is girl shit"... at least the nigga joe showed respect to Prodigy.Sagion sucks point blank,he shouldnt respond to him...
Sagion sucks?...I'm going to take it that you don't know who sagion is, nor have heard dude spit.
Sagion is some of New Yorks young lyrical talent that is destent for his time to shine...Though I'm sure most people allready know about em.
Go cop a mixtape or suttin'
saigon sux?
yu must be smokin that lil wayne lolipop shit nigga
saigon will eat diss nigga alive.line for line word for word bar for bar..saigon is way fuckin better den diss homo ass nigga ..buddens sucks str8 up he's da worst rapper to come out of jerzey..n i'm form jerzey.Ransom is dat fuckin dude one of the realest out of jerzey n this homo knows it..Mistah F.A.B i think will kill diss nigga in a battle hands down...
Ransom? The Realest? Little Randy? Fuck outta here. All my people are from Jersey City, this dude ain't never done none of that shit he spit. Dude is the biggest fraud outta Jersey City. I know everybody that came up with that dude and mufuckas that watched that dude grow up. Him and Buddens. Stop playin dude, just cause a mufucka raps in a rough ass voice and talks like he thorough don't mean he "real". Buddens be frontin too, but he tries to keep a little bit real.
Ransom is "real"...that's funny.
"Prodigy is like the hip hop bobby brown"
no truer words have been spoken.
DAMN, Joe is right he aint neva came away a winner
tru prodigy done struck out more times than gille trying to break into the industy
prodigy is like the hip-hop version of bobby brown...lmao
when this nigga says MR. Fab....does he mean FABOLOUS, cuz if he did fab is way more nicer than him
So far 08 been sloow for hip hop....mixtapes seem to be in good quality, but as far as studio albums go....eghhh. I think the last cd's I bought were American Gangster(of course) and Big Doe Rehab. Both came out in late 07, but you can still bang them in May 08. I have to agree that AZ was another solid album. I havent got a chance to pickup Silver Back yet. I think I'm missing somethin, based on these comments, though. I used to think that Sheek was the weakest, but now I feel like I have to give him a listen.
I have said it time and time again...Prodigy is dundee(trademark..dont even bite this word.) Put a fork in him.
"Fuck Mobb Deep/dont one of yall have sickle cell or somethin."
i feel'em cuz itz alotta emotional and sensitive dudes errwher. and especially 1s who desperately beg 4 attention. i like saigon 2, but it wuznt no diss 2him and he got all amp'd off dat shit. he lost cooh points wit da way he contradicts himself.
and prodigy wack. i fuck wit sum mobb deep songs but i gru up n da Pac era, it wuz fuck mobb deep, like dude above me quoted.
Ransom is a real nigga Joey my favorite rapper but hes an artist not a street nigga. Da nigga Ransom is a real g. I know niggaz dat he down wit dem niggaz get it in for real. Joey nicer then Prodigy and Saigon. I think its fucked up Just Blaze dont tell Saigon to fall back I seen the nigga Just Blaze on the mood musik 3 chillin like a real nigga then he turned around and did dat bullshit. Bien a Jerse Nigga he shouldve told his man to either see Joey or fall back but he did da bitch move. Dese industry niggaz is shady qtip was right
i feel wat joe budden is sayin here he is a seriously underrated rapper, and prodigy's gettin far too bigheaded, he still talkin shit even though saigon smacked him and saigon is tryin too hard to keep his street cred
Crooked I mixtape is droppin in a few weeks. Nino Bless "Untold Scriptures", Joell Ortiz is dropping "Free Agent", Immortal Technique in June, Saigon end of the year, its gonna keep coming. The new breed is coming with it
lol i like this guy now
ok this goes 2 tha dum fukkk tlkin bout ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM WAZ BETTER THAN ELEPHANT IN THA SAND!!
YOU FUKKIN KIDDIN ME MAN??
not tryin 2 tlk shit or nuthin but how tha fukk u say joes album was better than 50s mixtape??
not even lil wayne kan come up wit sumthin better than 50's mixtapez man!
git da fuk outta here