How To Rate Your Rapper

by Lyricalthought on July 18th, 2008

So from time to time, I find it in my day to go look through some of the singles that may be posted on the main page. Sometimes the song is good, sometimes its bad but thats just the way that hip hop is at the moment. You're going to have a mixture of garbage, high quality garbage, and of course, theres always the real music.

When the members on the main page have the chance to reply to some of these songs and leave their comments, one of the things that I have noticed is that nine out of ten times an argument will occur about the artist being better than another artist, or how this artist is better than every other artist for one reason or another. I must say that although I find these discussions/arguments quite amusing, a lot of the people who argue for their represented artist don't really put down too many facts. They tend to just name albums and call them classics, or say that they rap about things that matter.

So as a way to assist with these arguments, I have come up with a guideline that you members can choose to use, if you like, when gauging one rapper/emcee from another. I tend to use the following.

Flow-What it sounds like. Is it repetitive? Does it bring energy?

Delivery-How they approach every beat. Is it like everyone elses? Is it easy to replicate or does it actually take a craft?

Wordplay-Wordplay is the way in which they place the words in their verses. Synonyms, pace, breath control, vocabulary and how they use it in a verse. For example, instead of saying you make me mad with the results, an artist might go "Im repulsed at the results". It means the same thing but the new word enhances the flow and decorates the wordplay.

Simile - is nothing but a comparison using 'like' or 'as'. It's very simple to do but if done right, it is great for battles and freestyles. But because anyone can do a simile, if an artist is known for just similes, it dosen't make them talented, it makes them one dimensional and corny.

Metaphors - Metaphors are also a comparison, but you don't use like or as. Ex. "A dam is a wall to water. It blocks the (outward) movement of water."

Creativity - This is pretty simple. No artist should always sound the same, if you do then you probably suck.

And just to close things out, just because an artist talks about things that matter, does not mean that they are great rappers. Rapping about politics while another artist raps about big breasts and shiny cars dosen't make that conscious rapper superior lyrically. So stop please be conscious of the lyrics. And last but not least, SWAG has nothing to do with anything and it does not constitute someone being a great rapper so dont use it in an argument.

 
 
 
 

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betyalyfe11 months ago
good blog…thats basically what it takes to be a good rapper
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electrog11 months ago
Simile – is nothing but a comparison using ‘like’ or ‘as’. It’s very simple to do but if done right, it is great for battles and freestyles. But because anyone can do a simile, if an artist is known for just similes, it dosen’t make them talented, it makes them one dimensional and corny.


^^^HAHAHAHA we all know you meant Lil’ Wayne with that!
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hotsauce12611 months ago
haha ElectroG thats exactly was i was thinking
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cheezus11 months ago
SWAG has nothing to do with anything and it does not constitute someone being a great rapper so dont use it in an argument

that one to
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hustletrees42011 months ago

WOW JOKESTA MUST THINK WE ARE ALL RETARDED, NEWS FLASH BUDDY



CLEARLY EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT KIND OF MUSIC THEY LIKE, AND WHAT



RAPPERS THEY THINK HAVE GOOD FLOW AND WORDPLAY. EVERYONE BE


DIFFERENT SO THIS IS BULLSHIT LOL.

AND BETYALYFE YOUR A FUCKIN GOOOF IMA TRASH YOU TOO LOL
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blackjoker11 months ago
umm i think this is by LYRICALTHOUGHT my nig
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rbrtleeper11 months ago
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deafsounds11 months ago
good criteria…U had me laughin at tha SWAG line tho..fucc tha swagg bullshit…i nevr believed in it i mean as a rapper u gotta hav sum swag but basically it should be natural..i.e jay-z,young jeezy,
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scoop20811 months ago
fuck this …this is hip hop stop being so damn technical, we dont need to rate rappers, thats the prob wit a lot of u internet bloggers, just enjoy the music and listen to wut u like, no need to hate cuase a rapper doesnt fit inside ur box, gtfooh wit this bs
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ward2311 months ago
Papoose Need To Take a Look At Daat Flow Part Because Ma Dude Flow Is Daa Same Shit Daas Waas Holdin Hiim Back n Lil Waynes a Herb But White People Think Daas Wat Make a Perfect Rapper
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fresh2511 months ago
haha what is this hip hop 101 by the way check spider loc and 40 glocc of g-unit chasing lil wayne in the street on thisis50.com, trash the comment if u want but just thought some of u would want 2 see it
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chalieboy11 months ago
Ward, ur name is will, ur def a white person
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basco11 months ago
Chalieboy, ur name is Chalie, ur def a retard!
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bkbullshyt71811 months ago
THATS FUNNY AZZ SHYT HOW EVRY THOUGHT WEEZY WEN HE SED SIMILIES CUZ DATS ALL WAYNE DO…AND DID ANY OF YALL NIGGAZ NOTICE HOW MADD DIS NIGGA SCOOP GOT ABOUT THE ARTICLE…I THINK HES STARTED TO REALIZE THAT HIS FAVORITE RAPPER LIL WAYNE DOESNT FALL UNDER ANY OF THE POSITIVE NOTES OF WHAT A GOOD RAPPER IS…DAT NIGGA BITCHNLOL

BROOKLYN STAND UP…BEDSTY, NOSTRAND IS DA AVE COME HOLLA
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413josh11 months ago
^ ChalieBoy
who the fuck are you talking about “you a white boy.” motherfucker you white!!!
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smallprofessorabout 1 month ago
i know a black guy named will
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blackjoker11 months ago
tha niggas i listen to gotta have coals that heat rock
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calibre10111 months ago
Wayne stans need 2 read this shit, props Show
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blackjoker11 months ago
why is wayne yal favorite nigga to hate

this blog doesnt even have his name in it yal on his dick more than any of his fans
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757representa11 months ago
not just wayne stans, all of them, AND the haters.
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production11 months ago
Yea I Think Once An Artist Is Considered One Of The Best In The Game And Has The Plaques to Prove It Its No Point To Hate Publically N E More… IMO
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rawtoon4111 months ago
props to blackjoker
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lyricalthought11 months ago
My First Blog I’m Expecting Plenty of feedback
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calibre10111 months ago
A plaque proves ur one of the best in the game? so by ur logic soulja boy one of the best i mentioned Wayne because he’s meant to be “the best rapper alive” but ask yourself how many of those catergories does he excel in? hmmm need a few minutes to think?
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blackjoker11 months ago
all of em and no one is forcin you to listen to him so get ova it then, i dont understand why niggas always tryin to covince everyone who and who not to listen to we can all pick our own outlets thats whats good about music there isnt juss one artist and everyone shouldn like 1 nigga, yal juss wastin ya time wit it lil wayne or jay z bein tha public best isn gonna stop ya favorite rapper from makin songs music is an art not a sport.
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rawtoon4111 months ago
lmao..wayne is good with all of them..you sound dumb
the only thing you could argue with wayne against is wordplay..but thats because you not listening
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dantheman11 months ago
it was good, i liked it, could of used a few more examples on the the def
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secondson11 months ago
good breakdown, on how to judge an mc.
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1hiphophead11 months ago
Rhyme scheme is a lot more important than some of these, but maybe that’s just me…
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theshow11 months ago
And What would be Rhyme Scheme?
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calibre10111 months ago
lil wayne excels in all those catergories?! what u been smokin goddamn no wonder u got joker in ur name
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rawtoon4111 months ago
^ this hater so stupid he posted under the wrong comment..what you been smoking?
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rawtoon4111 months ago
and why yall prop the hip hop is dead dude when what hes talking about goes along with delivery and word play..did you read his comment or like his name?
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1hiphophead11 months ago
They’re propping me because he could have left out any other category and argued that it was because they all fell under wordplay. I could also argue that flow and delivery are the same thing, but that’s neither here nor there. I feel rhyme scheme should have been up there because to me, it’s at least as important as any of those other skills and is the most overlooked skill in rap, and is the reason why hip hop is dead these days; but to each his own i guess…
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jjlawz11 months ago
I feel u but i think that was included in flow and delivery
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blackman9011 months ago
I think swag is just the new generations way of saying charisma and I think thats a really important part of being a good rapper.

Personally, all rappers that I consider great are great for different reasons. Jeezy and Nas are both great IMO, but for different reasons. Their really isnt a criteria on how to judge a rapper IMO.
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calibre10111 months ago
@ rawtoon U cant post under every comment dumbass
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rawtoon4111 months ago
lmao..oh i’m sorry i thought this was a blog for a minute??? WOW
You must be the one trashing all my comments..ha.
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taylorrobjay11 months ago
i just dont understand how u can go by that criteria and still not think hov the best…..im just saying.


anybody else confused by that?
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blackjoker11 months ago
Well i am, but i aint one to hate, i use to listen to him though
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killacaine11 months ago
WHAT ABOUT SWAG???!!! IF A MUTHAFUCKA AINT GOT SWAG, HE DEFINETELY AINT GON HAVE AN AUDIENCE!
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production11 months ago
Yea I Agree Swag Is Probly One Of The Biggest…Especially Today
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jalen11 months ago
Swag jus an excuse 2 have wack lyrics. A niggas lyrics may b wack but he sound cool sayin them. WTF
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datniggab11 months ago
Good blog, you on point with all this. But in my opinion I think every rapper has their own faults in their music. Like artists like Talib has a great delivery but his flow sometimes come out as boring which is why I think fans of trap rappers can’t really listen to that. And rappers like Jeezy got the creativity and he brings alot of energy. He’s not very lyrical and his subject is very limited were as Talib talks about all types of topics. I listen to both types of artists whenever I want to listen to some deep shit or just something with a light listen that you can act wild to. Foreal I don’t there is no such thing as a perfect rap artist.
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blackjoker11 months ago
i feel you dawg cuz most girls will listen to plies before styles p anyday thats what i was tryna say every rapper is marketed to a certain audience and its up to tha people that listen not any standards
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yankeesfan424711 months ago
Talib be flowin on the tracks. I think LyricalThought should have added tone of voice, cause Banks monotone is just too damn boring.
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nico11 months ago
Bad rappers use “swag” as a way to validate themselves. Just ask Rocko, Shawty Lo, etc.
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playboy0811 months ago
Sounds lik Lupe has all those qualities to me
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hotsauce12611 months ago
co-sign
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blackjoker11 months ago
yea swag dont always mean success cuz jay had none when he first came in now he has a cocky swag but he already had a fan base before that.
rick ross didn have one now he has a boss swag but now he does have a fan base.
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theshow11 months ago
I dont think you did your research homie, Jay been Cocky from the get go. Thats why a lot of people didnt like him back in the day and swag is just a corny way to say stage presence or Charisma and Hov Definitely had that From day one
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blackjoker11 months ago
you talkin bout jay z in those hawaiin shirts??
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jaheel11 months ago
true… but swag wasn’t that important as it is to “certain listeners” now a days
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dontshootem11 months ago
OH MY GOD THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!! I DONT KNOW WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE IF I HADNT READ THIS AWSOME BLOG!!!!!!!!! YAAAYY!!!!! NOW I KNOW HOW TO “RATE” MY FAVORITE RAPPERS!! YIPPPPEEE!


..fucking homo’s, get a real job
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theshow11 months ago
ROFL that was funny
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jerseycitynigga11 months ago
swag is basically setting trends with sneakers and clothes and jewlery and shit. you can have the lamest swag and rock busted clothes until the day that you die but if you put it down on the mic and keep it 100 i can give a rats ass about your swag because i’m going to ride with you because you are putting out good quality music
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theshow11 months ago
No offense but thats not swag. Swag isnt even a word, thats called being Marketable, and all you have to do to be marketable is be decent looking and dont say anything to stupid.

and most artist dont come out with these trends, their stylist tell them what to wear how to wear it and what will be hot, Artist get way to much credit
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dontshootem11 months ago
cosign theshow,

absolute non-cosign jerseycity.. you have it completely fucked up.. swag has nothing to do with clothing or sneakers, did you not think before you commented.. idiot
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rawtoon4111 months ago
Swag is how you carry yourself..most of the time its in an arrogant cocky way..basically feeling, acting like, and letting everyone know your the shit and will always be
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jerseycitynigga11 months ago
no but i don’t have it completely fucked up [trashing your ass] =]
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dontshootem11 months ago
you’re life is trash
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theshow11 months ago
lol wow
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jerseycitynigga11 months ago
my life is trash but i attend a private university with a 3.0 gpa lol, go kill yourself, and your correct translation for your lack of grammer is

Original sentence: You’re life is trash
Translation: You are life is trash

go superman off of a roof IDIOT!!!!!
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dontshootem11 months ago
yeah? while YOU’RE busting YOUR ass in YOUR little private school paying 30 grand a year, i make double that and im 18… but i must admit YOU’RE one jersey city nigga i’d hate to run into on campus.. are you gonna tell me your name is clarence?
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nico11 months ago
Do we have another case of e-thuggery on our hands? let me get reign on the phone…
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dontshootem11 months ago
no way, jerseycitynigga is as hard as they come, i wouldnt fuck with him
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dre403711 months ago
I had to create an account just fa dis shit…. my nigga spelled “Grammar” wrong…. and u say u got a 3.0
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jbsmooth11 months ago
@talloroybjay

The reason why is cause you can count jay out of two of those catagory’s compared to the definition creativity and simile. people always compare him to B.i.G. and on most songs he sound’s the same.

I dont agree with there definition of creativity while it is creative to switch up your flow from song to song I think creative is the ability to make a song come to life, not just your everyday three verse and a hook.
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theshow11 months ago
Thats a really good point, Props for that one
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taylorrobjay11 months ago
well i respect what your saying

but can u name one all around rapper who has done it all better then him, and if u can.

can u supply some evidence?
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jbsmooth11 months ago
According to defsounds definitions up there eminem in no way am I saying em is better than jay nor do i beleive jay is better than for the simple fact that their both on diffrent pages when they rap and it’s unfair to compare em’s record sales to jay-z cause em will when with the white people and dre’s fans.

but according to defsound definitions:

Flow: eminem has great flow he alway’s bring alot of energy some people may say it’s repetitive cause they think all he raps about is his mom wife and daughter but those people must not own a em album and beside’s every rapper has something they keep talking about from day one.

Delivery: em’s delivery is flawless he can rip any beat and he always bring a certain craft.

Wordplay: Em’s word play is rediculus probly one of the best i’ve heard

Simile: Em is never compared to any other rapper infact every rapper say’s that em is in a lane all by himself.

Metephore: I wouldnt say he’s the best with metephore’s I actually think nas is the best with metephore’s but em is up there.

Creativity: No one I mean no one switch’s up the flow more than shady and that’s a fact listen to criminal and count how many times he swtich his flow.
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jaheel11 months ago
i think it’s both
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dakush42011 months ago
Simile: Em is never compared to any other rapper infact every rapper say’s that em is in a lane all by himself.

jbsmooth…eminem was gettin compared to nas and AZ wen he first hit it big cause they had good vocabulary for rappers and makin sense. and listen to yellow brick road he switches his flow crazy on that song and still kills it
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jalen11 months ago
One nigga that definetely had all that in the bag was Big L
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212supagangsta11 months ago
HELL YEAH GOOD LOOKS
BIG L IMO IS DA GOAT
I PUT DAT NIGGA OVER EVERYBODY
HE RAPPED ABOUT EVERYTHING
SWITCHED HIS FLOW
ALWAYS STAYED ON TOPIC
DELIVERED
NOBODY WAS FUCKIN WITH HIS WORDPLAY, SIMILES, NOR METAPHORS

HE WAS THE ULTIMATE MC…BUT HIS OWN BLOCK BUCKED HIM N WE LOST HIM
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212supagangsta11 months ago
NICELY done….
but yea nowadays…….many rappers don’t have 2/5 of these categories
but this is how i rate my niggaz
its all tru

n to da dude who said Jigga had no swag back then…..LISTEN TO REASONABLE DOUBT

on 22 two’s he ended dat shit sayin

“Nigga u broke WTF u gon tell me?”

IMO…thats swag…VERY cocky…but swag
a lot of rappers imitate that swag today so please explain wat u talkin about
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blackjoker11 months ago
um then im guess im wrong about him then, i still view him as a clown though so its all good
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212supagangsta11 months ago
na JAY-Z was a clown too like when he freestyled w/ BIG L in ’95
he was jokin around makin up words n shit
jus bein an asshole in da booth so u right also
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theking11 months ago
thanks for the help bitch. now i cant rate them like the fuck i want
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blackjoker11 months ago
is there a category for niggas who talk about stuff they dont do and niggas that do what they speak
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212supagangsta11 months ago
LOL it should be
cuz niggas like
WAYNE 50 n FAT JOE are PUSSIES
n they talk o reckless
my uuncle grew up w/ PUN, JOE, LORD TARIQ, N PETER GUNZ in da BX
n FAT JOE got his ass beat like ay day

but niggaz like D-BLOCK, BEANS, TRUE LIFE, n etc…
TALK RECKLESS CUZ THEY ARE RECKLESS
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blackjoker11 months ago
yea i heard of pete gunz before, wayne sold a lil bit but he neva sold tha shet he be talkin about and sure as hell now shot at nothin but himself, everyone knows fat joe is juss a ridicolous clown i neva heard anyone say he was their favorite rapper beans is real, dblock really hustled, i don know bout that nigga tru life, 50 sold shit but he a pussy cuz of how he was raised his mom was his hero and he aint really learn nothin from tha streets but from tha clowns he lived wit then later in life he picked it up, tha nigga that shot him is still alive that says it all, everyone in dipset except stack bundles and cam neva did shit, i could get in at jay but niggas on here would go crazy so ima leave it alone, tha only rappers i cant really get on about anythin bout their lives and raps is big el and joell ortiz
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212supagangsta11 months ago
yea i feel u
BIG L died on the block he spit about
THATS REAL
but Tru Life
robbed MOBB DEEP in da studio n striped them naked IN QUEENS n sent them home
punched CAMRON in da eye
n busts his guns
HOV need to let him drop
he a real dude
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blackjoker11 months ago
my nig fucks wit tru life, cuz he hates on dipset except for cam and old juelz, i think street fam and dblock realler than dipset and gunit… (telfair and j hood tha) only work i heard of gunit puttin in was with buck stabbin dude at a awards show which was type dumb cuz dude was gonna get caught and he coulda juss hit him up on tha low fuck exposure
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212supagangsta11 months ago
yea niggaz don’t know how FABOLOUS n his niggaz get down
n D-BLOCK…well who names themselves after one of the toughest prisons out there
but BUCK was jus trynna get his rep up
but that cryin w/ 50 shit made him look like a wanksta
it was stupid as hell though
cuz every celebrity’ skeletons come out sooner or later
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cheezus11 months ago
“n D-BLOCK…well who names themselves after one of the toughest prisons out there”

I’m not 100% sure but I think D-block isn’t it’s own prison it’s a range on rikers
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jerseycitynigga11 months ago
it depends what areas of hip-hop you listen to

lupe,mos-dep,common,talib…they have everything on that list and they are in their own hip-hop catagory

nas,jay,eminem,styles,kiss,sigel,fab,ghostface most of them have everything up there but may lack 1 or 2 of those catagories

it depends on the listener because you can’t just sum everything up and speak for everyone else

i like raekwon but someone else may thing he is the worse rapper ever and don’t have any of those things up there so it is basically everyones opinion

@ 212SupaGangsta…listen to a song called “brooklyn’s finest” on [Reasonable doubt] with jay and b.i.g…..jay was cocky as hell on that too but his flow and delivery has always been crazy from the jump which most niggas don’t realize jay used to rap fast but switched it up
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212supagangsta11 months ago
i feel u RD is one of my FAV albums i still listen to it
but i was jus showin how COCKY HOV is
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dontshootem11 months ago
yeah but swag is all about his clothes and sneakers right?
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jaheel11 months ago
Yea u right…

I 1st listened to Reasonable doubt/Brooklyn’s Finest I was like 8…I’m 19 now and what got me is when Jay said
“You crazy, think your little bit of rhymes can play me?/
I’m from Marcy, I’m varsity, chump, you JV/? lol
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jalen11 months ago
yea that line was hot lol
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realtalknewyork11 months ago
Shit if we talkin Reasonable Doubt, then you gotta listen to Can I live
“While im watchin every nigga watchen me closely, My shit is butter for the bread, they wanna toast me” Woo first line comin out the gate gunnin. Reasonable Doubt is Jay’s trump card cus if you don’t think its in the top 10 hip hop albums all time, well you have very different tastes than i do.
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jbsmooth11 months ago
According to defsounds definitions up there eminem in no way am I saying em is better than jay nor do i beleive jay is better than for the simple fact that their both on diffrent pages when they rap and it’s unfair to compare em’s record sales to jay-z cause em will when with the white people and dre’s fans.

but according to defsound definitions:

Flow: eminem has great flow he alway’s bring alot of energy some people may say it’s repetitive cause they think all he raps about is his mom wife and daughter but those people must not own a em album and beside’s every rapper has something they keep talking about from day one.

Delivery: em’s delivery is flawless he can rip any beat and he always bring a certain craft.

Wordplay: Em’s word play is rediculus probly one of the best i’ve heard

Simile: Em is never compared to any other rapper infact every rapper say’s that em is in a lane all by himself.

Metephore: I wouldnt say he’s the best with metephore’s I actually think nas is the best with metephore’s but em is up there.

Creativity: No one I mean no one switch’s up the flow more than shady and that’s a fact listen to criminal and count how many times he swtich his flow.
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hempsteadny11 months ago
EMINEM IS AN ALL AROUND BETTER ARTIST THAN JAY Z…ITS JUST MY OPINION.
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jdiggle11 months ago
It’s 2008. Rap = Rock. You forgot one of the nicest parts of a track that deserves mentioning. Melody. All of the things on the authors list could be evident, yet without ANY melody, tracks become boring quick, just like all of the “Milli” remixes. Ultimately, that beat is just boring. Thats the problem with a lot of Buddens stuff, too, poorly chosen beats…even though he has cool wordplay, etc. Lil Melody separates the bangers from the boring large beats, i.e. why Game’s records always sound better than Kweli’s, even though Talib could kill him on the mic. Or maybe melody is a bad word….call it replayability…catchiness….a smear of pop…whatever, the best songs have it….even the hardest most gangsta shit has it in the wee background, some lil piano line or guitar line…reminding u to get this stuck in your head later.
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dontshootem11 months ago
how does rap = rock, what do you mean by that
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rawtoon4111 months ago
The last part was about Nas..including thee creativity part..he sounds EXACTLY the same as he’s been sounding..when he does switch it up- changes his voice on a track- it’s wack and the song would have been better if he rapped it his usual way..& thats why he’s not the best..ha
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calibre10111 months ago
Nas aint got creativity?! i suggest u stfu go n listen to i gave u power and come back educated
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rawtoon4111 months ago
^ Nas stan..oh and that must be why I can’t reply to every comment right..if you read the comment and the blog you would have noticed the part about sounding the same..which Nas does
TALKING ABOUTISSUES” DOESN’T MAKE YOU THE BEST..point blank.
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realtalknewyork11 months ago
Whoa, now when nigga’s try to get on nas’ dick i just gotta intervine. Name one rapper as consistant as Nas. Take his worst album and it’s probly better lyrically than 9/10 cd’s you’ll find nowadays.
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sirbanko11 months ago
i think you forgot that you should rate how well they choose their beats…
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partyinfo4all11 months ago
Personally, I think that’s part of the problem. People nowadays focus more on the beats than the lyrics. I’m a lyrics-first woman. If your lyrics aren’t shit, I don’t give a damn what your beat sounds like.
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gawgabwoy77011 months ago
There’s a difference in rapper and lyricist…This is how you rate the best lyricist not rapper…The highest you can go as an artist is an emcee because you touching on all aspects of hip hop…What makes an emcee the best could be a number of things..Pac was both a lyricist and rapper..He was the best all around emcee to ever breath on the mic…Nas has turned into a cheap knockoff of Pac in his absence..

Here’s my Top 5 lyricist(in no particular order):

Jay-Z
Eminem
Canibus
Rakim
Biggie

Top 5 rappers:

Jay-Z
Scarface
Pac
3 Stacks
Biggie

Best All Around:

Pac
Scarface
3 Stacks
Jay-Z
Biggie

As I said before this editorial breaks down the elements of a lyricist..People like Canibus are great lyricist but aren’t the best rappers..They don’t have the swagger, catch phrases that stick to the fans, nor the style…They are all lyricism, which will eventually bore the fans if they aren’t displaying these elements to keep their attention..Words mean nothing without feeling and creativity..

I know there will be some who disagree but instead of hating put your top 5 up and lets debate intelligently on it..

Top 5 up and coming:

Trae the Truth ( if he gets the right promotion)

Joe Buddens( if he ever gets the promotion he deserves)

Saigon ( if he ever gets the right promotion and stop region hating)

Stat Quo ( if he gets released from Aftermath or Dre drops his album)

Ya Boy ( same as the others as far as promotion)
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212supagangsta11 months ago
i like that
u kept it 100

but my top 5 LYRICISTS in NO ORDER

KRS ONE
RAKIM
BIG L
JAY-Z/JADAKISS
BIG DADDY KANE

TOP 5 RAPPERS

5.LUDA
4.STYLES P
3.JADA
2.JAY-Z
1.BIG L


ALL AROUND in NO ORDER

LUDA
JAY-Z
JADAKISS
BIG L
BIG DADDY KANE

UP COMERS

Jae Millz (if he gets da right promo n GOES BACK TO HIS OLD FLOW)
Crooked I ( promo )
Buckey of D-BLOCK ( he’ll be a good lyricist w/ da right promo )
Corey Gunz ( he got a lil buzz but needs more promo )
Bully of D-BLOCK ( w/ a right promo he’s a Styles p/ Kool G Rap in da makin )


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acestar11 months ago
’Nas has turned into a cheap knockoff of Pac ’ WTF NIGGA ARE U ON CRACK!!! Please explain to me how thats even in the least bit true

Top 5 Rappers (which is really the same thing as your all around category, since lyricism is a subcategory of rap)

1) Pac
2) Nas
3) Big
4) Jay
5) Cube

Honorable mention to Face, KRS, Rakim, Dre, Em, Big L, 3 stacks and a few others i can’t think of rite now

Top 5 up and comers:

1) Crooked I (spits nuthin but fire, mite be the best out right now IMO)
2) Saigon (crazy lyricist, with promo could go big)
3) Bishop (with Dre, anything is possible)
4) Joe Budden (might have missed his chance already)
5) Nino Bless (Mixtape was off the hook)
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yankeesfan424711 months ago
Gotta add Wale to your list of up and comers, that nigga be rappin’.

“I’m the best/ even when I’m cynical/ angle these beats like the pentagon whenever my pen involved ain’t nothing here minimal/Countin my bread/My account like a brunch at a synagogue/get it yall that’s a whole lotta bagels…”

Man just give him a listen you’ll understand.
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acestar11 months ago
Oo yea i forgot about Mr.Ortiz for up and comers, he probably be next to crooked in my book
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hempsteadny11 months ago
yes andre is great but how he in ur top five and dude havent put out a solo album yet?
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duhnigha81311 months ago
dam alot to say..
first off wayne use of simlies aint corny..creative as fuck

second wtf there a blog telling me how to rate the shit im listen to?? WTF

3rd that list above me alllllll fucked up!!\
both them
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jalen11 months ago
Wayne has the worst punchlines. The harder it is 2 understand the better. Wayne’s are always simple. No hate

I’m the bomb like tic tic
I wear bright red like a girl toe
I told a tool box bitch its hammer time
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infinite102311 months ago
hes rare like mr clean with hair!!!!
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li52011 months ago
I CAN APPRECIATE THE FORMULA THAT YOU USE AND I USE A SIMILAR ONE!!
ONE THING THAT IS ESSENTIAL TO LISTENING TO MUSIC IS THE LISTENING ASPECT!! MOST PEOPLE ONLY JUDGE OR COMPARE MUSIC, SO THEY DON’T GET THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF APPRECIATION OUT OF THE MUSIC!!!! JOE BUDDEN MADE A VERY POWERFUL AND TRUE STATEMENT IN WHO PART 2 WHEN HE STATED THAT MOST PEOPLE ACT LIKE THEY CAN’T LIKE MORE THAN ONE RAPPER AT A TIME!! ALSO WHEN HE MADE THE STATEMENT, THAT THERE ARE MORE CRITICS THAN FANS!!! I CAN’T STAND READING COMMENTS OF IGNORANT PEOPLE WHO ARE BIASED AND TOTALLY BLINDED BY THE ARTISTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY INFATUATED WITH!!! I LISTEN TO ALL MUSIC, BUT I AM A FAN OF WHO CATCHES MY EAR AND ATTENTION WITH MORE THAN THE NORMAL JIBBER-JABBER OF EVERYDAY!! JUST RHYMING WORDS ISN’T ENTERTAINING, SIMILIES USED TOO OFTEN IS CORNY AND IRRITATING!! ONE THING THAT I USE IN MY FORMULA IS SUBJECT MATTER AND REMAINING ON TOPIC!! GREAT BLOG!!!!!!!!
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sugarshane11 months ago
I agree with everyone sayin fuck swag. That shit is stupid.
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thirdcoast11 months ago
This is why Dre 3000 should be Top 5.
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username3228611 months ago
lil flip is underrated he has good wordplay and delivery. his flow is crazy ahead of my time coming soon
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thaundaboss11 months ago
Lil Flip isn’t underrated. Lil Flip is garbage now. He used to be one of my favorite rappers too. Now all he does is do some wacc ass freestyles over cool beats. He says the same shit and has no type of creativity anymore. Flip lost it.
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jerseycitynigga11 months ago
don’t shoot em

you are very hillarious.I’m coming back from the mall and you are trying to be extremely hard over the net and what point are you trying to make lol? we just had a blog about e-thugging and you are setting the trend once again lol, and i’m not paying out of my pockets because i have scholorships but you most likely wouldn’t know what one of those are because that explains your ignorance and lack of knowledge mr.I WANT TO BE FROM THE HOOD BUT NEVER STEPPED FOOT INTO ONE LOL!!! , and WOW i’m so proud of you that you work at burger king haha, you are making soooo much money @ 7.00’s an hour =] and by the way, i’m not a thug or gangsta or would ever want to be one you clown, now go kill yourself because you are a waste of defsounds space and a waste of life which your mom should of swallowed you because your ignorance is at an all time high _

did i burn you that bad?
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thaundaboss11 months ago
JerseyCityNigga’s ON DAT AZZ!!!!! HAHA, GET EM!!!!
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212supagangsta11 months ago
yea i see u usin BIG L’S line
“your mother should’ve swallowed you”


but yea u gettin at that nigga
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keem11 months ago
Well just wanted to say one thing there isnt a such thing as a best rapper alive.. its opinonated… certain people think someones hotter than the otha one dont think that.. just say someones the hottest rapper which is true you can say that but best rapper alive i think people should stop that. people like different stuff.
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gawgabwoy77011 months ago
@ duhnigha813

Wayne’s use of similes is boring 50% of the time..Secondly, why hate on our list when you didn’t put one up yourself so that we could dissect it since you disagree with ours..That’s my opinion and I don’t ask you to agree..The beautiful thing about hip hop is there’s always different opinions on rating emcees..That’s why there’s not one artist that outsells everyone else on a consistent basis..But put your list up and then talk to me pimpin..

Now as far as everyone else there’s also a category for your personal favorites..I didn’t include that but here’s my favorites…

Scarface
Pac
Jay-Z
Devin
3 Stacks
Buddens
Kiss/Styles P
8ball (the old version)
MC Eiht (the old version)
B.G. ( it’s all on you volume 1 and 2 version)
Ghostface/Method Man
Twista (Adrenaline Rush version)
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dinholindo1011 months ago
finally someone with common sense on how you judge rap music!
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r3m1x11 months ago
anyone that’s feedin into this bullshit is as impressionable as the lil fools doin the Crank Dat and thinkin they know how to dance. (simile)
Music is no different than Politics or Religion…
“if you don’t agree with me, you’re wrong.”
that’s how it’s always been, how it is and how it’s always gonna be.
the fact that some 2nd rate blogger is gonna try to force bullshit guidelines upon anyone is hilarious.
seriously… you guys need DEFferent day jobs. (word play)
stick to postin songs (late as hell) and postin rumors.
you’re much better at that.
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nychypeman11 months ago
Like someone just said.. There is no fuckin best rapper alive… also bout niggas sayin weezy is 2 simple.. Weezy b havin so many lines that u have 2 think bout it.. B 4 u get it.. He da hottest out but he dam sure isn’t the best…. also weezy explained wut he ment by sain he da best rapper on da best raper alive skit on 1 of his mixtapes with drama
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nychypeman11 months ago
Like someone just said.. There is no fuckin best rapper alive… also bout niggas sayin weezy is 2 simple.. Weezy b havin so many lines that u have 2 think bout it.. B 4 u get it.. He da hottest out but he dam sure isn’t the best…. also weezy explained wut he ment by sain he da best rapper on da best rapper alive skit on 1 of his mixtapes with drama
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sinisterpurp2211 months ago
KILLA!!!! KILLA!!! I KNO NIGGAS WILL TRASH ME ITS W,E THO.
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bgaj11 months ago
CONTENT?!!!
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drunkmonk11 months ago
damn what is it with lil wayne its people either hate him or cant stay of his dick its like damn is there any one who thinks lil wayne is a alright rapper not great but not bad im i the only one lol
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413josh11 months ago
50 Cent: 10/10
THE BEST RAPPER PERIOD I DONT CARE WHAT NO ONE SAYS
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chalieboy11 months ago
someone needs to die a painful death
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413josh11 months ago
^ someone needs to realize they’re white
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davondaking2211 months ago
My Top 5 Rappers

1) Chamillionaire (most slept on…dude just on another planet)
2) Lil Wayne
3) Eminem
4) Lupe Fiasco
5) Jay-Z
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davondaking2211 months ago
ok i gotta tie Ludacris at number 5 with Hov
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ridikuless58011 months ago
and this is why Chamillionaire is the best doin it right now….i take him as the cinderella story in the Vibe B.R.A. tourney….
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stevieb11 months ago
I feel you on the Cham part when you look up underrated in the dictonary you see him.
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315tothe80311 months ago
someone tell jerseycity (mr. 3.0) that it’s “grammar”
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mantis11 months ago
Swag is dirt weed
and if its all your relying on then your garbage
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datdudechris11 months ago
Curren$y rapper rating

Flow = 3
Jus bcuz of his voice
He sounds dead
Delivery = 3.5
Wordplay = 3.5
Similes = 3.5
Metaphors = 4
Creativity = 4.5
Curren$y has said sum different shit than most rappers
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datdudechris11 months ago
Note: these ratings r out of 5
Flow = 3/5
Delivery = 3.5/5
Wordplay = 4/5
Similes = 3.5/5
Metaphors = 3.5/5
Creativity = 4.5

I switched da scores of Wordplay n Metaphors intentionally after I thought about it harder

Overall rating = 3.66
3.66 = pretty good
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brokelo11 months ago
partyinfo4all11 months ago
Hov has to stop stealing shit to be the best….make a complete album where not one line (or verse) has been said by another (mainstream and very popular) rapper previously. He said he did it because he was paying homage. No Jay, when you constantly take verses, you’re stealing shit. I know he’s capable of releasing tight shit, he’s done over the years. I’m just saying, he has to use all of his own words in the songs and let them become hits numerous times before I’ll consider him as one of the top.
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partyinfo4all11 months ago
I posted the comment here by error….I meant to post it in reply to whomever said Hov was the best.

(As for the article Broke.Lo, that’s straight bullshit. No one deserves that kind of treatment, I don’t give a damn what popped off. You know the cop is lying, there is no doubt it was racially motivated.)
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datdudechris11 months ago
Wale rapper rating

Flow = 4/5
Delivery = 3.5/5
Wordplay = 4.5/5
Similes = 3/5
Metaphors = 3/5
Creativity = 5/5

Overall Rating = 3.83

Note: I still like listenin 2 Curren$y more, lol
Overall rating =
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jdiggle11 months ago
A hundred posts ago someone asked me how does Rap = Rock. Here’s the answer. Songs like Stronger by Kanye, Hero by Nas, Shoot Me Down by Weezy, half of the G-Unit stuff, and much more (check all Eminem music) is collective evidence to my claim. A long time ago, in the 80’s what was Rap and what was Rock were on two very distant sides of the spectrum of music. Almost 30 years later, look at the two, mimicking each other in production and song characteristics. Rap songs have variations of the verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/chorus progression that rock songs often use. Now they have rock guitar lines behind the production as well. They have guys like Seal doing choruses. There is nothing wrong with this. Rock and Rap are merely moving closer together, and in some cases they become one. So when I said “Rock = Rap” that is a type of metaphor. The current state of Rap music is more Rock than R & B. Not to mention there is a lot of emphasis on song writing ability and a lotta rappers play instruments now as well, and know how to produce. Jay-Z knew this when he got with Linkin Park…Now, look around and try to find Rap without Rock…and you get……Common. :)
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sugarshane11 months ago
Currensy is boring as fuck.
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djones11 months ago
Im tired of reading whatever lyricalthought has to post, he manages to directly or indirectly criticise Wayne in almost all of his pieces..chek da last 3
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djones11 months ago
How would u rate ur favourite internet blogger? kos i fuccs with JokeSta but i dont mess with lyrical
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lenchmob10111 months ago
Krs One
Chuck D
Ice Cube
2pac
Andre 3000
Eminem
B.I.G.
Jay z
50 Cent
Nas
Jadakiss/Juels santana/Lil wayne
Big Pun
M.c. Lyte
Chamillionaire
Jeezy
B.G.
Remy ma
Slick Rick
Snoop Dogg (esp. freestyles)
Young Buck
Rick Ross
Lloyd Bank$
Scarface
Mystical
Ma$e
Mia X
Kurupt
Bun B.
T.I.
Big Daddy Kane
Lil Kim
Rakim
Big L
M.C. Ren
Saigon
fabolous
Hussien Fatal (Outlaws)
Khadafi (OutLaws)
Lupe / Kanye West (cry baby)
Kam
Some of the dopest that even done it.
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yamomma11 months ago
yeah that “swag” shit is gettin ridiculous.. just because u act an ass and wear loud colors does not mean you have swag. Having to verbally state that you have swag proves that u really dont have it. sorry. :(

Anyway, this is a good topic. i choose who i listen to by the flow, delivery n all that.. in my opion, if you’re a rapper and none of those qualities show in your music, youre wack.
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justoisag11 months ago
if dat da case … Outkast, 8Ball n MJG, & Z Ro some of da best ever. & Lupe!! they different thats wat I like.
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chaos9611 months ago
..I believe LUPE FIASCO has all them catagories down pact.

Oh..in response to the simlie and metaphor thingy…I believe wack or simple rappers overly use similes. Metaphors display the lyrically talented rappers.

Lol…@ the people who dislike Lyrical Thought.

…Funny how corny & one dimensional get associated with Wayne so easy.


Good Blog!

P.S. Anyone wanna have a discussion about two rappers? Let’s Go! I’m curious to notice how this Blog will effect what you people say…
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realtalknewyork11 months ago
I really like Lupe and think he’s talented but some of his stuff is too…out there. His style is heavilly metaphorical too a point where you have to think exactly how he thought when he wrote it to get it. Now i don’t have any problems with this but sometimes “dumbing it down” so more people understand takes more work than just coming up with a hot/deep metaphor. By the way here’s my top 10 in no perticualar order-
Nas
Big Pun
Slick Rick
Jay-Z
B.I.G
Raekwon
Luda
Jada
Kanye
Eminem
Faverite producers- Primo, Rza, Kanye, 9th Wonder, Pharell



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realtalknewyork11 months ago
Fuck, i forgot Big L, knock kanye off the top rappers part and replace.
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gawgabwoy77011 months ago
@ LenchMob101

That’s a pretty hard list..Some I don’t really agree with it even though I like them..It’s just they ain’t my favorites..Soula Slim was one of the most slept on too…It’s a lot of people that slept on Fatal first album..That was my shit back in 98/99..
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swissabeat11 months ago
SCARFACE AINT FIND LUDA FOR NUFFIN/CRAZY ASS FLOW/NO PORK ON MY FORK I DONT EVEN SPEAK PIGLATION
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gawgabwoy77011 months ago
@ RealTalkNewYork

Big L would’ve been that dude had he lived..He’s in that class with Pun and Biggie..He didn’t get a chance to put out enough material but half the rappers out bit his style including Jay and the rest he’d run laps around…

I think i’d have to run with Just Blaze over Pharrell…I’d even go with Timbo first..A lot of people sleeping on Organized Noise too..

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thegrandpuba1111 months ago
I think the simile thing was talkin bout Cassidy…not wayne. wayne is jusst creative with some stupid,crazy shit.
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infinite102311 months ago
matt george is the best rapper out right now from ct holla
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infinite102311 months ago
he just cant rhyme up to 6 syllables per bar
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brucethc11 months ago
AZ, STYLES P, LARGE AMOUNT, OLD MOBB DEEP
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famlayman11 months ago
Dude talking ‘bout Paul Wall with the similes, he use them to death. You can’t rate a rapper by any such criteria, because that’s based on personal opinion. What you might like, I may not feel a rapper cause of that. Im from up north (newark, Nj) now living in the south, If a rapper did’nt have finesse (fineness and delicacy of skill), versitility(able to do a hot song with anyone and be hot, see B.I.G/ notorious thugs) lyrics, and consistancy (not a few hot singles and features) but whole album of dat fire (you know clssics. see B.I.G) I did’nt want to hear shit. Now I feel rappers that dont fit any of the above stated. It’s ‘bout state of mind, if I’m on some drank and you got a hot single ‘bout that, Im gone feel it, if you from N.Y. and you hear Jarule’s New York, you gone feel it, right?
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famlayman11 months ago
You know what? On some real shit Brucethc you on point, (except for large amount, I dont know who dat is) the old mobb was lethal! I od off that shit still. But that justifie my point cause 1 million people never felt them at the same time, except on Murda Muzik, thier only platinum album. They the hottest group to me besides the Lox. 1 million albums sold means you appeal to the masses, you formed the opinion that you hot to 1 million people, you may not be hot to me but a million say you are.
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makakushi11 months ago
Lil Wayne fan all day… lol… go on youtube and check “kanye west and lil wayne get the ringtone” and listen to the lyrics…. dat shits funny as fuck!!!!

P.s. about bein a Lil Wayne fan….. (Sarcasm)!!!!
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bkallday71811 months ago
Why can’t u rate rappers, I mean we rate basketball, football, pornstars or whatever.

If u suck u just suck. U put the pen 2 da pad n write wats on ya mind rite it’s not our fault wat these niggas write sometimes comes out sounding retarded.

Swag is not important, Wayne couldn’t survive in the late 90’s-mid 2000’s, that’s when rap was at it’s best look at the record sells, don’t blame ringtones n limewire, blame the rappers (((sorry south)))
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bkallday71811 months ago
For all y’all dickheads that think Wayne is “The Best Rapper Alive” get a pen n pad and grade him (A+to D-) against the top five best rappers ever

My top 5
Jay-Z
Big
Pac
Rakim
Nas
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famlayman11 months ago
Here is a list of rappers that i think are the best in rap history in no specific order.

Jay Z (no one alive is better to me period!)
B.I.G (the best in every catagory if you rate by any standard, no one living or dead is nicer)
Big L
Canibus (nice as hell, but had terrible production and poor promotion)
Jada Kiss/Lox
Nas
Hell Rell/Dipset
B.G (I really feel this dude, but if you rate by Lyrics standards most wont like him)
M.o.p
Ludacris
Camron (357 and pull it era)
Ice Cube
Mobb Deep
Big Noyd (Mobb Deep affiliate)
Cormega (I like him, but he’s not amongs the elite, he just nice to me. He killed everybody on that firm joint on Nas album “It was Written” him and Foxy Brown)
RedMan
Wu Tang (the old Wu, I dont feel most of thier new shit, but they definitly earned thier spot amongt the elite)
Scareface
50 Cent (he not as nice as he was when he first came out. Listen to 1st major release “Guess who’s back?” for that raw uncut Fif, that’s some of his best)
Lloyd Banks (lyrical monster punch lines metephores and all, but not as established cause he needs to aquire more albums to show he’s consistant, he’s diffinitly underated)
2 Pac (one of the greats. but has always lacked versitility. see Pac and Bone Thug vs B.i.g feat. Bone)

this is not by far the only rappers I like, but were some of the first to come to mind. Lil Wayne is not on the list, but I do like him, he’s just ok to me, his singles be hot. The albums are ok, he’s very over rated in my opinion. I don’t believe he’s as talented as any of the above mentioned artist, but none the less he’s talented. That’s just my opinion


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dakush42011 months ago
wayne is just the hottest right now. you gotta respect a rapper selling1.06 million in first week thats keepin hip hop alive. i aint gonna lie i was saying wayne was the best when drought 3 and drought is over series was out he was dominating the shit but i thinkn he fallin off he need to take a break get off the sizzurp stick to the kush and spit that fire again.

this is good criteria to judge rappers i wouldve added beat selection though and to the people sayin how you gonna tell me how to judge rappers i like…how the fuck do you judge a rapper if it aint what that criteria says. thats why yall crankin dat supaman
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chaos9611 months ago
LOL your a damn fool if you think Wayne is the hottest right now…

I think Dr. Kanye West is one of the brightest.
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chaos9611 months ago
Believe it or not Lupe Fiasco is the BEST MC I’ve EVER heard.

Not because of what he is doing now (destroying beats) but simply because at the age of 25, I’ve NEVER heard anyone with such potential. You can only compare him to the likes of Nas, jay-Z, common…etc.


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bkallday71811 months ago
Hip hop aint the same nomore. So wat Wayne sold a mill in a week, look at everybody else. Look at the gap btwn American Gangster and Tha Carter 3, how many niggas went platinum…huh? 8 months passed and nobody went platinum.

DaKush talkin bout u crank dat, that shit is 4 kids yo, aint nobody doin dat shit n NY. This aint hiphop nomore, only popular artists go platinum like corny ass Soulja Boy lol. He’s a disgrace, I wanna hear him freestyle or battle somebody.

That’s why I listen to a lot of old shit cuz todays rap is too comercial, like Jadakiss said “hiphop belongs to tight pants wearin rappers”
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bkallday71811 months ago
Chaos96 I feel u a lil but I don’t think Lupe is the (best) I think he’s underrated in todays hiphop, lyrics aren’t important like how they used 2 b, same reason why Nas’ album won’t sell as much as Wayne’s and Nas is much better lyrically
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partyinfo4all11 months ago
Clearly Nas is the best. Have you listened to the last album that came out? He’s spittin truth and spittin it quite well I might add. For those that pay more attention to the beats, the beats are nice too.

Am I blind or was Jadakiss not at all mentioned in this blog? There’s a new guy too, LOS. Check him out….his mixtapes are free on DatPiff…. Guilty Until Proven Innocent, G5 Certified Fly, and G5 Special Edition. Tell me he won’t be in your top 5 one day!!!
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famlayman11 months ago
I forgot to mention on my list my man Beanie Seigal, please don’t let nobody say Lil Wayne can fuck with him on any spectrum of rap. Cause he can’t. Not even close.
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obama08hiphop11 months ago
I remember when swag meant doin yo own thing like only u could do it. Now all it means is how much can u act like wayne of jay and talk the slickest tryin 2 do it wit a tight ass shirt n some rock n roll gear. When i think of swag i think of 1 thing like when u think of a drunk person u think of stumblin, loud, slurred words.
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famlayman11 months ago
Swag.ger: 1.To talk with an insolent or conceited air: strut. 2. To brag : boast. That is the definition of swagger, every rapper possess that. Anyone in a professional feild does, boxers, basketball players, the list goes on and on. If you do anything (entertainment wise) you’d better feel you the best, if not how are we too beleive it. So swagger is not a thing that improves your ability to do what you do, it’s just what makes you feel like you good at what you do, just another way of saying confident. So some rappers swagger is always irrelevant when disscussing actual skill, because they all have swagger (beleiving they’re good enough to make a living off doing what they do). So now noone should be holloring ’bout no swagger.
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steamteammgt11 months ago
Rate Those Chosen!! These brothas is nice, peep them out, check out their mixtapes on datpiff.com (Steam Series Mixtapes). Let me know, i’m digging’em! – www.myspace.com/thosechosen
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freshest33410 months ago
This is why nas is da GOAT! rate out of 10 now


Flow: 10/10 just listen to illmatic, stillmatic, untitled, & it was written. enjoy said!
Delivery: 10/10 has alwayz been on point his whole career. Ether ate up Jay-Z! King of NY is Nas!
Wordplay: 10/10 just listen to hope please if you think any different bout my rating
Simile: 10/10 just got mad skills yo. eat up your favorite rapper’s favorite rapper.
Metephore: 10/10 classic is what nas is about. listen to life’s a bitch, just a moment, rest of my life, fetus for prove!
Creativity : 10/10 just da best, went mainstream for a minute but came back to his roots. albums don’t sell much nomore. which is a shame cuz plies and wayne is nowhere near on nas’s level and two ok discs is outselling and classic. what a shame.

Nas prefect rating. may have flaws but not much. Nas is numba 1 Greatest rapper alive and eva! learn it
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