Guest Blog: Evolution of Rap Beef

by N3V3R_F@KE on May 4th, 2009

http://media.defsounds.com/uploads/assets/601/637/15439/asset.jpgBeef in hip hop has changed so much since the days of Busy Bee v. Kool Moe Dee (if you’re clueless to these two artist as well as this legendary battle, then sadly you are not a true hip hop fan and secondly need to educate yourself ASAP).

There's no denying that beef between rappers has gone from trading lyrical blows to full on wars. Back when hip hop was first becoming popular battle raps rarely ever spilled on to the streets. The winner of battle was announced and both gave each other a pound and that was the end.

The more that “Corporate America” became involved with hip hop got the more serious beef became. It was no longer just lyrics; it became personal attacks, and threats of violence turned into reality.

It went from Prodigy getting punched in the face by Keith Murray to Mobb Deep getting robbed by Tru Life to the tragedies of Tupac and Biggie. We all know what could happen when beef gets out of hand.

Fast forward 12 years later and now we have the infamous (at best) and played out (at worst) beef between Officer Ricky v. 50 Cent aka Boo Boo.

Now whatever feelings you may have on either of these artists or their music, the one thing I think should jump out at everybody is the lack of the musical element of the beef.

It started out on wax which was interesting. Well not really. We all knew Ross had no chance against 50, but it was at least entertaining with a classic diss track coming out of Lloyd Banks(Officer Down).

That is the exact thing that is great about hip hop beef. It forces both sides to step there game up to win the beef, so us as the listeners, get artists on their "A" game lyrically to win.

We saw it with Nas and Jay-Z, Saigon and Joe Budden, Royce a 5'9" and D12, and of course Game and G-Unit. It also works as a great way to boost album sales and get people to talk about you.

Why do you think Ross started this beef in the first place? His album sold 150,000 units in its first week at a time when CD sales are at an all time low.

Did any of you care about Deeper than Rap before Mafia Music?

After Mafia Music Ross's disses were half assed at best. Those 1 minute diss tracks were just feeble attempts at keeping the whole beef buzzing, and to keep his name in the media. This is when the beef had taken a turn onto a personal level.

We all know the story, 50 takes out Ross's baby mama and gives her a book deal, then we have the gay-unit videos, leading to the part that went too far with the video of DJ Khaled's mother at work with 50 implying, “We can get at you and your family anywhere.”

Then we have Ross's other baby mama's porno, and the hundreds of interviews where Ross continuously calls 50 a monkey.

It seems to me like this whole thing is starting to stray away from the music and into that personal realm. The problem with the personal realm is that’s where the war of words ends and the more serious war begin.

I hope they can keep this professional and we won’t have another Pac and Biggie situation. Fortunately that seems unlikely since both artists have been in each other's cities, yet to hear of either of them getting shot or slapped up.

Plus neither of them are thugs anymore; they're just entertainers (no matter how many times they shout it in their songs).

However, it can turn violent very quickly and I just want to remind both sides that this is Hip Hop so let’s keep it on wax and off the streets. If only we could have this whole thing settled over a battle and they can get over all this retarded beefing. Controversy sells and who knows this better, 50 Cent and Rick Ross.

 
 
 
 

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adeep10 months ago
1st ppl!
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pliesgoatpt210 months ago
ROSS WON JUST GET OVER IT
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5ivedawg10 months ago
Who realy gives a fuck? The REAL Rick Ross is bout to get outta PRISON. the REAL 50 Cent is DEAD. THese niggas ain’t stupid. It’s over. ROss won (cause it was really about SALES) until 50 drops another. Then we can compare. but ain’t nobody bout to do SHIT cause they both makin $$$$. and thats what its bout EOD.
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dajjal201210 months ago
Great Blog.i still want officer ricky to die though.
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rtf15010 months ago
great blog this beef was kinda of wack when it started anyways
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phreshbreath10 months ago
^^^i agree
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dooflinky10 months ago
8th!!!!!
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flameeffex10 months ago
It was a good read, but this shit has been said a thousand times. Everyone knows real hip hop rivalries have long died out and now it’s just about who can sell more. No one cares about writing rhymes anymore. Sad to say.
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cognachinnivsop10 months ago
so true
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twan50810 months ago
cause AMerica has brainwashed its youth…
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mix41510 months ago
187 on an undercover cop… haha that’s what I say
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secondson10 months ago
Good blog neverfake. I personally feel it aint nothin wrong wit battles (ie krs vs the juice crew). But these modern day beefs have gone to far. As far as the Officer Ricky vs Boo Boo beef, its one that’s gettin out of hand. Tapin people’s mothers and shit at work, takin nigga’s bm’s shoppin etc, etc, is shit that can get a nigga killed. I miss the days when niggas kept it on wax and showed who was the better rapper. The one that took it in the other direction first, Boo Boo did so imo cause he knows Officer Ricky is a better rapper. So this battle has been turned into a comedy show where Boo Boo has an advantage bein a more humorous person. I welcome battles in hip hop, but this shit going on today aint that, its somethin else.
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dooflinky10 months ago
flo-rida and 50 cent should have a fist fight. who would win?
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murderinc10 months ago
" I hope they can keep this professional and we won’t have another Pac and Biggie situation "

Don’t worry about that no body is gonna be killed or something , as long as G Unit are locked in their studios like Hoes
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magic8910 months ago
50, the guy is on steroids.
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murderinc10 months ago
The real beefs died since DMX vs Ja rule , that was the last true one .
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groc10 months ago
Nigga Stfu, The Last Real Beefs Were 50 Vs Ja Rule, Which Ja Rule Got Ended,(Inbetween That Is 50 Vs Fat Joe) Then G-Unit Vs Game
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murderinc10 months ago
for example what’s going on between me and doo flinky ain’t even a beef , i slapped his ass in the first round
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damir9210 months ago
lolllllllllllllllllll
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twoface10 months ago
good blog my dude

i agree that the shit is getting to personal..but i can guarantee you dudes learned their lesson from pac and biggie..shits not gonna ever (knock on wood) be elevated to that level again.
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dooflinky10 months ago
murder inc, you and plie goat pt.2 are dead men walking, and stop trying to slap my ass!
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jaffar10 months ago
look, the reason that this beef is going away from the musical side is that 50 is REAL busy nowadays. he’s the richest in the game and has so much to do. u cant expect him to forget everything else and keep recording diss tracks against ross. sure, back in the day (50 vs Ja), fif wasnt as rich as he is now, nor did he have so much business deals and shit going on which meant that he can spend as much time as he wants dissing Ja. its not like that anymore. hes got so much shit on his hands right now, whereas this motherfuckin ross has nothing to fuckin do. he has no movie deals, no movie company (50 got cheetah vission), no label of his own, no business deals (vit water), no perfumes, no nothing. thats why he has all the time in the world to sit on his fatass and write jabs against the unit, which still suck. im sure 50 is bound to diss him again sooner or later and maybe he can get Em wit em as well. banks is coming wit another officer down and before u know it, ross’s career will be wrapped up. TRUTH been told
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dooflinky10 months ago
you forgot to mention the beef between trick trick and yung berg, trick trick and his niggas beat down yung berg and took his chain after they found out that yung berg was the man who killed proof, but yung berg didn’t go out without a fight, he knocked out 3 of trick trick’s niggas, stabbed 6 of them, and choked out 2 of them before he caught the bad one, it was 20 on 1, even as he was getting stomped out he was lacing some of their shoe laces together so when they tried to run they would be tripping over their own feet, genius, nigga went out like a soldier, chicago niggas are realer then detroit niggas.
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jtrmonster10 months ago
LMAO
THIS IS THE FUNNIEST NIGGA ON DEFSOUNDS
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jtyme10 months ago
flinky cant get banned who are we gonna laugh at???
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alcapone10 months ago
it was a good read never fake and on point esp for a first time blogger doing it on this scale at least. only thing id like to see was more details for the lazy and others on more about the old battles and shit they would do and the grimey level of the lyrics.

But yea…..ever since the 50 vs Ja and Jay vs Nas going commercial on MTV, BET, magazines worldwide show both getting really personal throwing shit in rhymes only they knew to the public they setting a bar you trying to have other niggas outdo when they beef and 50 always getting into some shit needing a new ammo and dirtier with one he adds to his resume smh

it wasn’t cool when niggas shot up Yayo’s mom’s house with little kids in there
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silkthashocka10 months ago
Homie good shit
but how you gonna leave out one of the biggest, KRS and Marley Marl. Shit was a HUGe beef, but hey good shit.
Very few beefs are real, and very few matter. When good things come from them (aka Ether by Nas), then its all good.
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groc10 months ago
50 killed this fat police, i dont know why you mention, joe budden vs saigon rap beef, cause that might have beent he wackest beef ever, nobody was really paying attention to that wack shit. both artist were wack and the beef was only out there for 1 week then they squashed
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reckless10 months ago
as long as we don’t have another Suge Knight in hip hop we won’t have a repeat of Biggie and Pac. Beef these days means promotion and nothing more.
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bosox200410 months ago
Awesome blog. Thanks for taking your time and writing something that makes sense.
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marsb10 months ago
Blog was nice. As far as who won the beef

“50 bodied you, I just laid the chalk down”
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rileyescobar10 months ago
You shoulda talked about the Gangstalicious vs Eat Dirt beef…Them niggas been shooting eachother back and forth
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amannyda10 months ago
lol lol…
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badams1810 months ago
i feel as if the internet is why the battles have strayed away from the lyrical war of words…..and also bcuz everything is so promotional and about money////back when hip-hop has started it was about the battle…the love of mc’ing….the pride of showing everyone you were a superior mc than ur opponent…..now its jus about whos cooler.or who has more money///but im sure there will be a big battle soon in hip-hop..a real one..a war of words on the mic.
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theking10 months ago
Beef in hip hop has changed so much since the days of Busy Bee v. Kool Moe Dee (if you’re clueless to these two artist as well as this legendary battle, then sadly you are not a true hip hop fan and secondly need to educate yourself ASAP).



bitch..wat if we aint fuckin old
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jtrmonster10 months ago
I FEEL U MY NIGGA
WHAT DOES KNOWING THEY ASS GOT TO DO WITH HIP HOP
WILL SOMEBODY UNDER 30 DO A BLOG
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jussleep10 months ago
lol thats the problem in hiphop im only 25 but i know so much history of hiphop, knowing the past will help alot of cats realize the problem with now, its no more craft in hiphop just randomness. knwoing that battle will help respect the art of the battle
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deuce5310 months ago
this beef in particular didnt take a personal turn for the worst, it took a assed-out turn for the worst! everything about this “spat” has been nuthin but dumbass videos that have nuthin to do with hip hop, xcept the occassional dis track. I cud give a two quarters worth of dog shit about pimpin curly, or who the fuck is a monkey or a “hunkey”…bring this shit back to wax, where it belongs, cuz u aint doin nuthin but embarassing urselves as artists and “entertainers”
it hasnt been a evolution of rap beef, its been downgraded to the point of youtube videos, just like souljah boy and bow wow…fuck it all lol
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bosox200410 months ago
The King,

You don’t have to be old to know and appreciate old school hip hop. You were probably born in the 90’s so does that mean you don’t listen to Biggie and Pac also? It doesn’t matter how old something is. If it’s good, it will be remembered forever. It doesn’t matter how old it is…

Most people weren’t born during the Godfather/Scarface era of movies but people still know about them. Why? Because they are classics and will forever me remembered.

My point is… You don’t have to be old or young to remember something that is great.

Expand your horizons bro.
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theking10 months ago
i dont give a fuck about old school hip hop.. i think its wack…
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jflow93110 months ago
okay i like the idea of letting guest bloggers do their thing but what does this blog really say that hasn’t already been said? just copy paste all the intelligent comments, which I will say that there are few, from anything rick ross and 50 cent on def sounds in the past months and you will have this blog. just sayin.
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jtrmonster10 months ago
Beef in hip hop has changed so much since the days of Busy Bee v. Kool Moe Dee (if you’re clueless to these two artist as well as this legendary battle, then sadly you are not a true hip hop fan and secondly need to educate yourself ASAP).

WHAT NIGGA?

SEE THIS IS WHERE U GOT ME
JUST BECAUSE I DONT KNOW THESES OLD NIGGAS I DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT HIP HOP
NIGGA PLEASE
I FEEL THAT ANY NIGGA DAT KNOW THESE DUDES PROBABLY TO OLD TO BE LISTENING TO RAP
DIS BLOG IS BULL SHIT
I GOING TO WRITE ONE ABOUT WHICH RAPPERS FUCK THE BADEST HOES

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bknaptown10 months ago
i seen that same DVD neverfake seen that highlighted that shit. i think it was Beef DVD, i may be wrong, the shit even used to come on BET all the time, so how come none of you cats seen it. Has nothin to do with being young. but if you missed it, good, that shit was wack as hell, Busy Bee didnt even rap real words. He was on that “hip hop to the hippy the hippy you dont stop” and kool mo dee rapped lyrics, so that wasnt much of a beef. I guess Busy Bee was the HNIC before Kool actually rapped, thats what you young cats missed, not much. You gotta respect the old school, but i understand why youngstas dont give a fuck, cause it was fuckin garbage.
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chrispennn10 months ago
im wit jtr monster…they may have ben good but dont no body no who those washed up ass fuckas r
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chrispennn10 months ago
oh and plies goat..quit wasting ur opinion….u dont know who goes hard apparently….cuz i hate to say it being a big camron fan but 50 is ultimatley walkin away the one with a smile on his face….and roos is gunna end up on celebrity weight watchers cuz he aint got no more hype
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lilchris243410 months ago
Nice Blog.

Damn, I want that chain Jay got on.
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chrispennn10 months ago
and bosox ive ben with u on ur opinions till….kinda ….i mean ima 90s baby my dude….and i know bout old school hip hop n all but im from the new scholl nawskity meanny..matter fact im willin to bet eryone on this shit isnt to much older than me…and im also sure that there no one even thinks bout back n the day hip hop and todays cuz the truth is they r 2 completly differnrt genres of music..and i do like some old scholl artists like kool g and excobar n shit….and nice4 and smooth is pretty nice but,that generation just cant compete with todays……….might as well of posted a blog wit dis shit lol
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n3v3rfke10 months ago
first off thanks to everyone whose showin love on my blog i appreciate it and all those with intelligent criticism thanks too, you guys are important to me becoming a better writer.

However i keep hearing how im some old ass dude whose stuck in 80’s and 90’s rap. I’m 19 guys im not an old ass dude who only listens to old school. The reason I’m saying you should all know about Kool Moe Dee v. Busy Bee is because that was the first battle rap that a rapper dissed another rapper. It’s historic and if you call yourself a true hip hop fan you should know this.
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bbgbbg10 months ago
Ignorant statements like “Beef in hip hop has changed so much since the days of Busy Bee v. Kool Moe Dee (if you’re clueless to these two artist as well as this legendary battle, then sadly you are not a true hip hop fan and secondly need to educate yourself ASAP)” should be kept to yourself.

Im not surprised jokesta letting some more jokestas blog on his site. It happens way too often.
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jussleep10 months ago
the art of battle is terrible cuz the artist are, point blank
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chrispennn10 months ago
never fakes makes a good point…but most ppl dont care bout the history,just wut they hear……i mean its not like dudes just be on google lookin up hiphop history n shit lol…but i aint hatin so dont get shit tripped up….im just sayin todays rap scene is all about new shit..the more new shit u got the better ur ratings usuually r..and the ones who only drop ery so often like eminem tend to fall off the game and always having to pick tehm selves up….but the art of a battle isnt about dissin either…its to get a better crowd response….
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dcinthesouth10 months ago
In the end, Ross album is good..Budden and Saigon are still C-listers…and 50 still can’t rap…questions?
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magic8910 months ago
None at all.
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chrispennn10 months ago
props for being open wit ur opinion dcinthesouth,but none for being a hater…but 50 isnt really doing shit tho to be honest.of course he can trash piggy…he already has real cred and gets way more listens…
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bigred2310 months ago
Man I hate when niggas always try to say if u dont know some fucking rappers from the 80’s that u are not a true hip hop fan. First of all who the fuck are you to say who is and not true hip hop fans. If you know anything about Hip Hop its about being able to express yourself however u want weather it be through rapping, dancing, graffiti ect. all I could do is read the first fucking paragraph and I got fucking hot I hate when people thing they are true hip hop fans just because they know about some battle that happen a long time ago and if I dont know the rappers im not a hip hop fan. Maybe some of us dont know about those rappers because they were way before our time dumb ass.. but that does not make me less of a hip hop fan than u.. I just get aggravated when niggas say that shit.. my era was nas, jay-z, cash money, so on and so forth people who came out when I was first getting into hip hop, so does that make me less of a hip hop fan? Fuck no!!
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shittybear9 months ago
50talk to much to be hard, niggas talk to much now days any way fakeass niggas diss da game.him and ross are jokes just make yo ends and be cool.stop telling.and since when have da pigs been cool.fake niggas flip da game.to my reals we out numbered.hooks better then the rap thats fake.
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