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You can’t even hear the freestyle. Were those shots at everyone on Forever(except Em, obviously)? I heard a line about Top dropped similar to Drakes on “Money to Blow”. I heard lock down and heartless I think. I know I heard “I’m at the top. ‘No Ceilings mane’”. Lupe never really seemed like he would be the type to say he’s the best. Still a great rapper can’t wait for the mix tape and the album probably some of best things to come out this year.

And some lines at the beginning. “Competition, it’s all red (Wayne’s also all red), it’s all dead”. We need that mixtape though. Thanksgiving about to be even better.

@secondson… hes 1 of them…. i also think lupe is 2…. listen 2 tha music not tha media

@secondson, Em puts it down everytime he spits, when he feat. on stuff man he go so hard. its like he steps up past great just to show the other person up, i don’t even think there is a song that em was feat. on and didn’t do better than the artist. but i will admit the last 3 ablums (em show, encore, and relapse) were kind of suspect in book. Nevermind relapse was still kinda hot

you really cant compare Lupe & Eminem……Em is extremely good with words while Lupe has a more of a complex flow………Both are really the best at what they do tho!!

I must be trippin, my interpretation was Lupe sayin that he cant fuck with Em was in a different way, i thought he was sayin kinda like Em is the homeboy or sumthin, i cant really explain it so i’ll give an example

kinda like when muhfuckas is having a joaning/joning/ribbing (or wateva) session…and someone throws out a name for u to go afta, even Lupe obviously brought up Em’s name on his own…but then he was like naw…I aint even gon fuck wit him

Secondson, i agree with you. I’ve explained this on too many blogs why that shit is overated. His subject matter and the shit he gets away with saying is ridiculous cuz it isn’t acceptable for anyone else in the Hiphop community to say it or go there.He gets away with it and you accept it(as does the media and the majority) cuz he’s white.It’s reverse racism.
For example:
It was a sick freestyle, but Just the things he said at the BET cypher alone would have put the average rapper on blast in the media. All that shit about Mylie Cyrus and Taylor Swift.smh Cmon dude, Im not making this shit up. He’s getting away with it cuz yall look at it like " Ha, that’s a crazy whiteboy.." and that’s it. Fucking Stans.smh So let someone like 50, Nas , Jay… HELL ANYONE make a song about killing his mom and girlfriend saying alot of fucked up shit and tell me that will not grab national media attention and backlash, Police survaillence, the whole 9! That shit aint right, man. But you niggas will follow it anyway,smh.
I like him but don’t think he’s in the top 8 best ever.

^{^} prove’s in the pudding .. wrongidea got the rightidea … i do like some EM stuff but its always pretty angery stuff he comes with . no change up really and toy soliders aint changing it up ..

no theres plenty better, for example royce da 5’9"

Wether Em is overrated or not is purely opinion, but fact is that he’ll lyrically fuck each and every last one of your favortie rappers in the ass.

right now no one can touch em…i dont know if i necessicarly agree with what lupe said but i could see it he is dope

Em is deff the best alive and top 3 all time. Lupe is the second best alive. and for all the people like wrongidea, em will shit on any rapper about any subject matter on any day. he raps about that type of stuff because that sells.
for example look at Marshall Mathers LP. he says some of the worst stuff on there and its the highest selling rap album ever.

If anyone can go against Em and actually make it a Beef it’s Lupe but they’re both my fav rappers. Em And Lupe GREATEST out right now…IMO Hove and Nas as well.

@ laxalbumof08

Isnt That an opinion, dumbass.

@ drdreezy001

That’s because not only you dumb niggas but white people bought it to. Em doesn have a wide subject matter but none of it has to do with anything going on in the world. Em has never made a song that was socially conscience, I got his shit too and it’s just not there. Among other things.so you ain’t saying nothing slick to a can of oil, lil boy. stop with your opinions when we’re talking about the facts. fuck how you feel.

yo wrong idead….u got the wrong idea

People that are saying its “reverse racism” that Em gets away with rapping bout what he does rap about is being stupid, ignorant and borderline racist themselves. You are only looking at the white side of the issue. You act is if 99% of african american rappers can go a whole verse, let alone a whole song without saying anything about killing people. I could go through my itunes on shuffle and listen to 25 random songs and I bet the artist says AT LEAST one thing about killing. Em is just using the stereotypes of an insane/serial killer (wouldn’t you agree serial killers are predominantly white?) where as people that you mentioned use their stereotypes about the hood, gang violence, etc.

The only difference is that Em does it with more details and has the balls to go into crazy detail. So if you’re saying Em is overrated for that sense, people with the same views as you is what keeps racism still alive.

Yes I’m white, and Lupe is my favorite rapper, so I’m not even an Em stan. Em is one of my favorites though.

Wuz gud fam Check out my new blog What the fuck is being real? You’ll learn from it.

Why should he worry about being the “bigger man” when idiots like Lil Wayne and Gucci Mane are on it. Give credit where credit is due.

@tayrav4

Wayne took jabs at Hov(unwarranted), R.kelly,50, Gillie. just to name a few. He steals niggas beats and releases his freestyle before they release thier song(Mike Jones, Shawty Lo and a couple other no names). So don’t go there with the wayne this and that, Know your shit.
And if you were arguably better than a list mostly comprised of fad, gimmick, and fake-ass niggas, you’d be pretty pissed too. Especially if you know you’re better. It’s only but so long you will accept being overlooked. The fabrications and the images projected thru Wayne and every other rapper on the list are the reason that dude “BANGS” even exists, and even thinks that it’s acceptable to show a bunch of flashy shit in his background, loop a hook and say a bunch of wack shit that more than likely isn’t true. He’s like a living parody of the successful niggas in the game, a true mockery of it!
I know where he didn’t get his ideas from for his video and songs
………Lupe, Nas, Joey, etc. Cuz if he saw them and they were the ones making all the money and getting all the fame, he’d be scared as hell to put that garbage shit out.
Cmon dude, keep it REAL,
Cuz right now your not even keeping it REAListic.
Real hiphop needs to make a comeback and that’s the guy

^Wrong Idea I feel you, Wayne took mad shots a Jay after Jay dropped The Black Album and “retired”. The MTV list is a slap in the face to hip hop because they only base it on who’s the most relevant “in the game” and who’s video’s stay in rotation on MTV Jams.

i can relate to what u saying man .. i’m broke as fuck

I personally like his story’s about murder Em is one of the few emcee’s who tell a story throughout every song, which gives it means, on top of having sick flows and insane lyrics. Encore and Relapse are 2 genius albums that people are yet to even realize yet. I listen to encore more now than ever because its so different, same with relapse. Relapse 2 will quiet the people who dont like his “new” stuff though.

agreed u bitches who listen to relapse probs skimmed through it i hated it at first too but em can spit his delivery is unmatched watch the BET cyphers and tell me who spit the sickest shit, handsdown em thats why he was in the last cypher and the last rapper to perform and all u bitches who ride hovs cock get off he aint shit even ’Ye could murder him and did nas already make him his bitch

at least he aint rapping about money like every other rapper and makin your poor ass feel like shit

yeah he really didnt try on the last two, encore was such a pile of shit

Em got slaughtered in that cipher session. Mos and Black Thought outshined his ass by miles.

@juavez

lol, u got a point there

slaughtered? haha dats a joke i doubt u really believe dat shit even tho its comin from a biased opinion…black thought shit wasnt even dope like dat pretty average on da lyrical tip…now Mos went in but Em still rapped circles around him…i dont kno what u dudes judge shit off of but it aint lyrics

^^ Mos did. Black Thought didn’t.

murderinc — about 18 hours ago
i can relate to what u saying man .. i’m broke as fuck

no shit you’re broke… you didnt have to tell us

Eminem and jayz the greatest ever ? lmao fuck outta here with that bullshit

@ murderinc
hip hop blasphemy!

Facepalm.

or thats how you know its not true cause nobody agrees with you…

how u figure hes over rated? if anything hov is over rated…many niggas can kill hov…there are few who go as hard as em…u ever heard that nigga spit an any word freestyle? youtube it…a nigga says a word and em flows wit it

to the dimwitted who gave this dude props, he just said Lupe is better than Jay-z…

^^No shit. Jay is my FAVORITE rapper, but he is IN NO WAY better than Lupe lyrically.Period.

I was at the concert too. Shit was too live. Funny how they kept chantin’ for Lupe while Mario did his opening act lol.

lol hell yea, only thing i aint like is all that damn throwin water bottles. one of them shits almost hit me

halo 3 is on the back burner dude. hearda COD?

Cuz before the beat drops he says " Let me show you what I do best,.. for those that dont know me."
And he freestyled 4 times that night but security kept telling people to put down thier cameras.

I stand corrected, that’s 2 completely diffrent freestlyes , same beats though.

That’s why I said “correction” and trashed my own comment. cuz I was at the one in Towson, Va. the video looked just like the show I saw.
Cuz he used those same beats but it’s a totally diffrent freestyle. Cuz on the one I saw his ending rhyme said"shout out to Jay-z tho, but everyone else got to go.
But he freestyled 4 times that night but security kept telling people to put down thier cameras.

shut up bitch . I just mistaked the shows cuz I didn’t play the video first.

damn, thnx 4 the mention fam

The only one huh? You really need to expand on what you listen too, most of the best shit is non-mainstream

So u think anyone care bout you? Child please. Em’s a beast, he has better lyricals than all of young money combined. They have no substance whatsoever. It’s like they just spit random autotuned bullshit. Jay-Z’s a legend & holds his own but Em’s got him slightly. Point & case: Renegade.

& I know you’re gonna reply with some pointless tryin to be gangsta response… so go ahead if u can find time to hop off weezy. I already know about 5 words you’re gonna use too. So I’ll just say you’re wrong ahead a time.

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I agree, I wish we could have lupe, em, all members of slaughterhouse, mos def, talib,nas, thought etc. Do mad collaborations, competitivly, raw beats and the best lyrics they’ve gotand settle this once and for all! Would be sick even thought it would never happen.

^^^Kanye is the one who put him on, his first appearance on any music video is when he featured on Kanye’s “Touch The Sky” video, he used to hang around Kanye and Jay-Z a lot before he started promoting his own stuff, 1ST and 15, F and F up etc…

so you dont listen to much of lupe or much of nas, but you know that lupe isnt fucking w nas? they taught me logic in 9th grade. you miss that grade?