Lil Wayne One Of The Most Over Rated Rappers Of All Time
by on April 22nd, 2009
This is an editorial that is a long time coming, something that honestly I wanted for a long time to say, hopefully people will read this in its entirety and then leave their oh so educated opinions. If not then hey it comes with the territory of writing. Now after stating all of that let me begin with the statement that should rock this website to its foundations... Lil Wayne is over rated.
Lil Wayne is currently leading the new school when it comes to artist who have the image, the fan base, the record sales and the respect. He is the artist that everyone else seems to base their skill level at, his name on a track is considered gold, him as the headliner for a concert usually means that it will sell out, and fans of all corners can be heard all over quoting some of his most outrageous lines. If Jay Z can best be compared to Jordan (not saying that he is) fans have built Lil Wayne to be the LeBron/Kobe of the new era of hip hop. His last three albums have sold so many copies and received so much critical acclaim that some fans will go as far as to say that he is best to ever do it dead or alive.
To Wayne’s credit he has produced music at a pace that I or anyone in this world has never seen, in his time active as a mainstream force he has produced five albums and over ten mix tapes (Mixtapes that are fully developed and averaging 15 songs per mixtape). Along with these mixtapes he has been featured on countless tracks and remixed even more songs than anyone that I can think of. Wayne has literally lived in the studio and birth’s bar after bar and track after track.
So now that we have finished giving him his due justice lets take a look at why I think he's over rated. Most Wayne fans will tell you that lyrically he is a beast that his metaphors are amazing and his punch lines will leave you hanging in amazement. So I listened to a couple of Wayne albums in order to give a proper and fair synopsis those albums were Tha Carter, Tha Carter II, 500 Degreez and Lights out.
After listening to these four albums here are two things that I noticed right off the top on 500 Degreez and Lights out, Wayne's flow is choppy, his lyrics on many of the songs are elementary and although he does show plenty of promise it is clear that he has yet to harness that. From Tha Carter to the Carter III you can hear a drastic improvement in lyrical skills, song content and flow. But even with this vast improvement he still continues to be eons below what the cream of the crop offer.
Lyrically- Wayne offers a highly animated delivery that is built with one part drugs other part bravado he sounds convincing so even when he's talking about absolutely nothing in particular an UN attentive fan will be convinced that he has just said the hardest line of the year. As one Defsounds.com Exec said, Wayne’s flow is a collage of over exaggerated ER sounds, and a barrage of syllables. Break down some of his tracks and it’s obvious that what he's saying isn’t as impressive as it comes off to be in the beginning. Heavy on Similes, with a sprinkle of a metaphor here and there, Wayne can make your head spin at times with the amount of words that he can put together as well as the internal rhymes that he incorporates into almost every verse. But when looking at overall complexity, wordplay, consistency in punch lines, vocabulary, and then being able to put all of that together Wayne is good, actually he is above average but he is still a step or three away from the elite.
Songwriting/Making ability.
Every elite rapper, at least in my regards, has had the ability to consistently put out good songs. Wayne has the uncanny ability of murdering tracks that he is featured on taking the song from a 5 to a 7 with his simple sixteen. When it comes to his music, he definitely has his fair share of hits, but nothing timeless. Ten years from now no one will remember Lollipop, Dick Pleaser, or Go DJ. Its not that there bad songs, but do you honestly see yourself listening to lollipop when your 30 years old, if so then your one of the many few.
Wayne also seems to have a problem staying on topic with his tracks and is known to wander off straying away from the original thought; this also takes away from the consistency of his music. How can you ever put out a classic album if you can’t even stay on the same subject for more than two bars, and no matter what some fans may think Lil Wayne does not have a classic album, not even one that can be considered a near miss; If you want to talk about quality albums, Wayne did not have one until 500 Degreez. Tha Carter was his coming out party, Tha Carter II was his “This was not a fluke album” and Tha Carter III was a disappointment if you consider the amount of time he had to perfect the album, and the amount of hype that was behind it. All of the best rappers have at least one Classic album to stake claim for, Wayne has none. One of the things that both help him and hurt him is his song writing style. Yes it’s cool to have the ability to make songs without writing them down, but not everyone should do that. That’s like writing a thesis paper and not having it proof read. Wayne will hop into the studio spit a quick sixteen and that will be the end of it. Imagine if he wrote his rhymes down and took out the time to really dissect what he was saying, allowing himself time to go back and edit, then he really would be a beast, but instead he just goes in spits the rhymes does not seem to put much attention to it after wards, and flies high with all of the inflated critical acclaim.
What It All Boils Down To
Wayne is a one of the best in the game, this can not be denied but he is the Joe Johnson of Hip Hop, Immensely talented, but still having many holes in his game that have yet to be addressed. He at times slurs his words which can take away from his live performances, he is not as versatile on topics as many would like to lead you to think (but neither is Jay-Z, and nor was Biggie or Pac), and to be honest some times he just makes absolutely no sense, and will waste a good beat with horrible bars. When you put him up against other artist in the game old and new, there are just way too many who in a one on one battle could easily beat or even destroy him. He is in the top 25 alive easy but top ten or top five I beg to differ. Lil Wayne has plenty of time to change my opinion, but until he starts writing his lyrics, lays off the drugs, adds a couple of more things to his lyrical handbag of tricks, stays on topic, and broadens his subject matter he will always be that great player who you would love to have on your team, but would trade away for a Kobe, Lebron, Wade, or Chris Paul in a heartbeat. There are no Kobe’s or Lebron's in the rap game, we might have a Dwayne Wade but it’s definitely not Mr. Carter He’s still got a ways to go.



























Wow so you listened to the 4 albums where he was barely making waves. Wayne’s critical acclaim started in 2006 after Tha Carter II when Dedication 2 came out.
Wayne’s title has one of the greatest does not come from the 4 albums you listened to. It comes from the work after 2006: Dedication 2, Da Drought 2, The Drought is Over Part 2: The Carter 3 Sessions, The Drought is Over Part 4: Return to The Carter 3 Sessions, and Like Father, Like Son.
I am the biggest Wayne fan alive and I admit Tha Carter III was weak. But can you blame him? All the best tracks from the album leaked during 2007. Think: I Feel Like Dying, I’m A Beast, I’m Raw, Kush, I’m Me, Something You Forgot, Ask Dem Hoes, Need Some Quiet, Trouble, One Night Only, etc. That doesn’t even include the tracks from Da Drought 3, one of the greatest mixtapes of all time.
The problem with people on this website is that they all have a short term memory. They listen to the track Wayne put out yesterday (because he has one nearly everyday) and judge his whole career based on that one track.
we need more haters
please make more hateful blogs about wayne
you are making him more famous by the minute
good job
and get your hate up
and tupac was chosen
and wayne came no where close to being called over rated
just call this the most over-hated rapper of all time on the internet lol
2Pac- Me Against The World
Biggie- Ready To Die
Nas- Illmatic
Jay Z- Reasonable Doubt
Eminem- Marshall Mathers LP
Snoop- Doogystyle
Dr. Dre- Chronic
Wu Tang- 36 Chambers
But my point is that these rappers have an album that they will always be remembered for.. Wayne has major talent, but no real album to back him up.. yea he had sells and hype but he’s right… Im only 18, and I still slap the albums I named AND THEY CAME OUT when I was like 4… Im 18 now and I throw a lil wayne mixtape before I throw in his album…
myspace.com/youngmix
50 Cent- Get Rich or Die Trying
DMX- It’s Dark And Hell Is Hot & Flesh Of My Flesh, Blood Of My Blood
Albums are crucial imo
don’t forget it
my other question to you, lyrical thought, is WHO DO YOU LIKE? you seem to do an awful lot of criticising. I know you like em, joey, and wale. can you write something good about an artist for once?
thanks-
dont shoot em (marley)
and to think that clown actually thinks tupac is the most over rated rapper cause some mag said so. fuck outta here man.
He didn’t hate, he didn’t call him garbage, and he said that Wayne is one of the best of our time. I can’t argue with that.
I thought C3 would put him over the top, but the leaks prevented that. When dude said it shoulda been better because of all the time he had, I disagree.
It leaked 3 times (Da drought is over 2-4). Those are all better than the actual album and would’ve had me calling him top 3 ever (along with Jay & Pac) but the leaks prevented that. That doesn’t take away the facts that he made all of those songs and how good they were either.
As far as not listening to his current music when I’m 30…I’ll probly still like C1 & C2 but consider this…Jay’s 1st album dropped when he was 26…WAYNE’S ONLY 25 his most mature music is ahead of him, and he will still get better.
Scary huh???
dont you love how there cant be negative criticism anymore? just cause someone dislikes an artist, and they say so out loud they’re “hating.” grow the fuck up, you dislike this article, but thats ok cause your fav rapper didnt write it. get a fuckin hobby yo for real. just cause your in love with wayne doesnt mean everybody else has to be.
-GangstaGeek aka Bunny aka LilMissGatorade
*yea im a 18yr old female
iKnoe hawtt shyt dont get me wrong HE AINT NO NAS OR PAC
and also i have to point out that its been almost 10 years since go DJ came out and ppl are still listening to it, so that part isnt true..
good arguments though, but i belive it boils down simply to people’s opinions
1st off every one knows as far as accomplishments no one is supposed to compare themselves to another but people do it any ways n this pattern makes mothafuckaz follow suite.
2.Pac and Big made there impact but whos to say if they were alive long enouph to fall off that they will be considerd to be who they are 2day?
3.RUN DMC made commercial rap but no1 gives them credit like Pac or Big, why? Idunno prolley cuz most of’em are still alive but like i sed idunno.
I say that to say this, rap is expression of self, i been bumpin WAYNE since the B.G,‘z, he’s been hot he jus adjusted to the times like LL Cool J who suck n always did, but thats my oppinion. WAYNE is a product of the times, i dont kno how he got ta this point but he did dont hate the nigga, he dosnt even kno he ses it his self, but like KANYE the cockyness is jus self motivation fa hattin ass niggaz like you who can’t seem to let a nigga get his money n say fuck the world…
let the nigga do him, we all kno it dosnt last, for example PUFFY or 50CENT, sold millions of records n is still relevent but gets no play but they had their time, this is his time…
Im not fealin alot of these garbage ass rappers but every one has their time, he knows its gonna be short lived its just apart of the game, cuzz people like what they like n it jus so happends our likes change wit the track list…
n who the fuck breaks down a rappers punchlines, meta4’s n all that anymore????
a fuckin hatter get off his dick, most of the rappers suck, WAYNE jus brought something new to the game we need now days, n he sed it his self ORGANIZED CONFUSION, let him do him, like i sed music is expression of self, he got the game on smash so let he do dat, every1 got next, he had next fa over 12years at the age of 26 were most rappers jus get on he got it on lock, he’s doin pretty damn good.
PLUS WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU? A JOURNALIST, FOR THE NET, UR NOBODY NIGGA, GET ANOTHER HOBBY MY NIGGA, ur no diffrent then the mothafuckaz who stopped High Schoolers get n the NBA cuz they come n killin shit, u jus a hatter…
Im no dick ryder i jus dont see what would make u jump on the band waggen of hatters, theres enouph……..
Im bumpin Hot Revolver as i type dis LOL thas my shit,
BIG UPS WEEZY MILK THE GAME NIGGA GET DAT MONEY FUCK THESE HATTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1st off every one knows as far as accomplishments no one is supposed to compare themselves to another but people do it any ways n this pattern makes mothafuckaz follow suite.
2.Pac and Big made there impact but whos to say if they were alive long enouph to fall off that they will be considerd to be who they are 2day?
3.RUN DMC made commercial rap but no1 gives them credit like Pac or Big, why? Idunno prolley cuz most of’em are still alive but like i sed idunno.
I say that to say this, rap is expression of self, i been bumpin WAYNE since the B.G,‘z, he’s been hot he jus adjusted to the times like LL Cool J who suck n always did, but thats my oppinion. WAYNE is a product of the times, i dont kno how he got ta this point but he did dont hate the nigga, he dosnt even kno he ses it his self, but like KANYE the cockyness is jus self motivation fa hattin ass niggaz like you who can’t seem to let a nigga get his money n say fuck the world…
let the nigga do him, we all kno it dosnt last, for example PUFFY or 50CENT, sold millions of records n is still relevent but gets no play but they had their time, this is his time…
Im not fealin alot of these garbage ass rappers but every one has their time, he knows its gonna be short lived its just apart of the game, cuzz people like what they like n it jus so happends our likes change wit the track list…
n who the fuck breaks down a rappers punchlines, meta4’s n all that anymore????
a fuckin hatter get off his dick, most of the rappers suck, WAYNE jus brought something new to the game we need now days, n he sed it his self ORGANIZED CONFUSION, let him do him, like i sed music is expression of self, he got the game on smash so let he do dat, every1 got next, he had next fa over 12years at the age of 26 were most rappers jus get on he got it on lock, he’s doin pretty damn good.
PLUS WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU? A JOURNALIST, FOR THE NET, UR NOBODY NIGGA, GET ANOTHER HOBBY MY NIGGA, ur no diffrent then the mothafuckaz who stopped High Schoolers get n the NBA cuz they come n killin shit, u jus a hatter…
Im no dick ryder i jus dont see what would make u jump on the band waggen of hatters, theres enouph……..
Im bumpin Hot Revolver as i type dis LOL thas my shit,
BIG UPS WEEZY MILK THE GAME NIGGA GET DAT MONEY FUCK THESE HATTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIKE GET OFF HES DICK…YU CAN LISTEN TO HIM BUT DONT TALK ABOUT HIM ALOT UNNO?
he is making music that everyone loves
even if its shitty somehow everyone start to like it
like with the rock shit, if you ask half the rock fans and people who hated lil wayne before he made this music they would all hate on him, but now everyone seems to be jumping on his dick because of it, yes half his music is wack but it draws attention to people.
215 stand up!
EMINEM // JAY-Z // REDMAN // JADAKISS // NAS // KANYE WEST // COMMON // LUPE FIASCO // STYLES P // ANDRE 3000 // HALF OF THE RAPPERS FROM BROOKLYN // T.I. // LUDA // BUSTA FUCKING RHYMES!!!!!! // 50 CENT // THE GAME // SNOOP DOGG // LLOYD BANKS…I’LL JUST STOP THERE FOR NOW. REMEMBER…IT’S “WHO’S THE BEST RAPPER” NOT “WHO’S THE MOST POPULAR RAPPER” GET THE SHIT RIGHT.
but i do think hes over rated
Eminem
Jay-Z
Nas
Cassidy
Lupe Fiasco
Ludacris
Styles P.
Jadakiss
TI
Weezy is still young and has time to be called the GOAT. He might have a bunch of bad songs out as of recent, but he has made a LOT of bangers over his years as a rapper. In my opinion, you shouldn’t be measured by the number of bad songs you make, but by the good ones.
Just because you don’t like his autotune, some people might love it. So I’d have to say that he is versatile, in his ability to make songs to appeal to DIFFERENT people, not ALL people
jay said it best, “i used to wanna rap like common sense, then i sold 9 mil, and ain’t been rapping like common since”
Lupe
Nas
DOOM
Mos Def
Joell Ortiz
Royce
Styles P
Ill Bill
Jadakiss
Mickey Factz
nas
lupe fiasco
jay-z
krs-one
joe budden
joell ortiz
saigon
talib kweli
methodman
mos def
and theres alot more
theres still so many lyricist still out there, there jus slept on commercially.
CD!!!! Oh and for the record here’s my Top 5 of all time:
1.Rakim
2.KRS One
3.B.I.G
4.Nas
5.Em….matter fact I’ll keep going…
6.PAC
7.Big Daddy Kane
8.Scarface
9.Big L
10.Ice Cube
11.Common
12.Kool G Rap
13.JayZ
14.Big Pun
15.LL
16.Slick Rick
17.Too Short
18.DMX
19.Busta
20.Black Thought….I know someone will have something to say about me putting Em over PAC or Jay being so low, but hey its my opinion and opinions aren’t right or wrong.
“People need what they want, but they don’t want what they need”
Rakim
Nas
Krs-One
Black Thought
Big L
Lord Finesse
Kool G Rap
Big Daddy Kane
Ghostface
Raekwon
Ice Cube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re1jUZpWYbk
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I could never win an Oscar ‘cause I don’t know how to act
Saw my first million dollars and I ain’t know how to act
Then the second million came, then more came after that
Then more came after that, Hurricane after that
DAMN!!, and y’all saw the aftermath
And in my hood we don’t front, so I do give back
When you see a hood nigga you gotta tilt your hat
And since I’m a hood nigga I do just that
OGs used to tell me you just rap
Lil nigga all you need to do is rap
And just when I thought I was gonna do just that
Poppa was a Rolling Stone and them stone was crack
Fuck being like Mike I wanna be like pop
Then I picked up a mic I wanna be like ‘Pac
Please put down the pipe you don’t need that rock
Please put up a fight for the kids that watch
Us in the spotlight and then they mock
But caskets get closed and then they drop
And cases get closed and they are dropped
’Cause no one knows and nobody got
Any out nor N-O, ’cause they better not
Three words to a witness they get shot
Let me tell you what this is, this is the block
Always talk to God, never listen to cops
Pac-All Eyes On Me
Jay-Reasonable Doubt
Wayne-???
Lyrical thought i completely feel yu on this.! This is about the same shit i be sayin to all my niggas all the time… He nice he gone dip here an jump here but he never just a complete consistent rapper…
P.S.
Kanye-College Dropout/can i say that.? Or am i the only one who feels that way…
Pac-All Eyes On Me
Jay-Reasonable Doubt
Wayne-???
Lyrical thought i completely feel yu on this.! This is about the same shit i be sayin to all my niggas all the time… He nice he gone dip here an jump here but he never just a complete consistent rapper…
P.S.
Kanye-College Dropout/can i say that.? Or am i the only one who feels that way…
it’s not up there with ready to die or illmatic by any means but as for backpack shit its a great album.
everyone knows waynes classic album is carter 2. carter 1 imo
EMINEM // JAY-Z // REDMAN // JADAKISS // NAS // KANYE WEST // COMMON // LUPE FIASCO // STYLES P // ANDRE 3000 // HALF OF THE RAPPERS FROM BROOKLYN // T.I. // LUDA // BUSTA FUCKING RHYMES!!!!!! // 50 CENT // THE GAME // SNOOP DOGG // LLOYD BANKS…I’LL JUST STOP THERE FOR NOW. REMEMBER…IT’S “WHO’S THE BEST RAPPER” NOT “WHO’S THE MOST POPULAR RAPPER” GET THE SHIT RIGHT.
“People need what they want, but they don’t want what they need”
1. Rakim(father of modern rap)
2. biggie
3. Nas
4. Krs-one
5. Eminem
6. 2pac
7. A tribe called quest
8. DMX
9. Common
10. BUSTA BUST
11.Lupe Fiasco
12. BIg daddy kane
13. Method Man
14. gza
15. black thought
16. ice cube
17. 3 stackz
18. the game (he loves hip hop to much not to b on here)
19. Big L
20. CUnninlynguists (broad amount of topics n i think above average lyricists)
now what bout top 10 worst rappas
Personally I agree with some of the things you said, but my comment will probably get trashed because on this site you can’t speak your mind without getting trashed.
(And in no way am I knocking Dwight Howard down. My team is the Sixers and they are currently playing the Magic, so this example was fresh in my mind.)
And last time I checkd Carter 2 was a classic album. I could listen to it front to back and not skip a tracc.
Big L didn’t have no classic album and he one of the top no fuccin doubt about it.
“I got slugs for snitches, no love for bitches, puttin thugs in ditches when my trigger finger itches.” – Big L
Weezys last verse on BMJR off THE CARTER I
“Check my swag I travel like sound dawg, you play hard and im gravel like ground dawg, im underground call me groundhog. Lay down laws call me ground law. Dont confuse me wit the law, nah but just confuse me wit my pa, cuz i am the birdman J.R., I aint trippin nigga, I play that corner like Ripken nigga ,with the 40 Cal Ripken nigga (get it? this niggas nasty), Rip (double entendre if u dont kno wut that is u shudnt b judgin Weezy) a nigga, Flip ya vehicle split ya windshield, wak ya baby momma but I let the kid live, and ppl say that I am a kid still cuz the lil nigga still ride on big wheels, U feelin animal then come on and get killed, this shit peel bandanas like bananas, sounds like bananas, i blow a weekend in havana in my cabana wit my bottom bitch from savana, man a train couldnt stop ya man, I man up and you not a man, I stand up say I got my land, im the man of my land, call it lilweezyana, thats the new plan.”
That is a song I’ll still be listenin to 30 years from now yes.
2.KRS One
3.B.I.G
4.Nas
5.Em….matter fact I’ll keep going…
6.PAC
7.Big Daddy Kane
8.Scarface
9.Big L
10.Ice Cube
11.Common
12.Kool G Rap
13.JayZ
14.Big Pun
15.LL
16.Slick Rick
17.Too Short
18.DMX
19.Busta
20.Black Thought….I know someone will have something to say about me putting Em over PAC or Jay being so low, but hey its my opinion and opinions aren’t right or wrong."
first off im not going to state my TOP 10 because thats just my opinion….it doesnt really matter
but im going to first going to respond to this young man ABOVE
you wonder why people say that people from up north are always hating on the south?? LOOK AT YOUR POST dude you havent named not 1 guy from the south in your top 20 WTF are you serious…..most of you guys from UP NORTH are bias as fuck and thats why we really dont listen to your OPINIONS BECAUSE all you guys do is state your stupid ass opinion AND NOT FACTS……. KRS1 wtf?? the dude might can rap but damn i have never seen anyone with this guys album IN MY LIFE wtf common you guys base your opinions off lyrics and NOT GOOD SONGS thats why half of the guys from NY etc… have fallen off and the south has taken over ……i will say this again YOU NORTHERN NIGGAZ ARE HATERS not ALL but ALOT OF EM….be serious ANDRE 3 STACKS??? common he’d kill half the people you name….you can keep the battle rappers and ill take the good song makers ANY DAY ….ANYBODY CAN RAP…but how many of you mfs can have a #1 record.
ANYWAY to lil wayne
im from louisiana ……im a fan of wayne…not a stan AT ALL
im like most of you i think “wtf is he thinking doing this autotune”
I have been listening to lil wayne everysince he was the hotboyz "guerilla warefare get it how you live " half you mfs dont know shit bout that…but anyway…..if the man is not one of the best…then why does everybody want him on their song???? OBVIOUSLY HES DOING SOMETHING ……wayne is no where near one of my favorites….but i mean damn …the dude can spit…STOP HATIn………….imma end on this….. the man i always have in my ipod is “DR DRE” and dats real talk…good day
P.S Kanye is a beast as well…..wrd
i mean i used to always be like “wayne sucks”, and “he’s just an over rated cokehead”, but after awhile you just gotta accept that he’s not stoppin his grind anytime soon, and a million copies sold in a week should automatically put C3 down as classic, as its not an everyday [,or week, or month, or year] thing. and no matter what, more than likely ur still gonna have more wayne on ur ipod than any other artist. sometimes its better to stop hating just to be different and accept facts. idk if he’s the greatest but c’mon he’s gotta be doin somethin right.
illmatic, reasonable doubt, ready to die, marshall mathers lp, carter 3. it’s like a kindergarten problem, “Which of these is not similar to the others?”
…..wrd
1 tip
2 cassidy
3 fab
4 kanye
5 juelz
6 luda
7 wayne
8 em
9 jeezy
10 me
I was listening to Wayne when the Block Is Hot came out and honestly around the time of Carter II I sort of agreed with the whole “Best Rapper Alive” deal. But after I really thought about it and kept bumping all the classic albums (REAL CLASSICS!) i have been listening to my whole life I realized wayne may be in the top 20, but not the best by any means. Then came “Lollipop” and “a milli” with the release of C3 wayne literally fell on the charts of the best and now Idk if he is even in the top 50 best rappers alive. granted i would listen to him over some others i may rank higher than him, but that doesn’t mean he is better.
a little breakdown
nas, jay-z, eminem, lupe fiasco, andre 300 (even big boi), all of the wu-tang clan, az, rakim, talib kweli, common, mos def, T.I., and even 50. that took me about 30 seconds to name those artists and lets do the math quick… that would put wayne around top 20 and that is not counting some of the newer artists or more underground rappers that would destroy wayne.
if you honestly think wayne could take any one of those rappers i just mentioned, you are one of the reasons why wayne is so overrated.
let me ask you this. what is the main reason people stopped listening to 50 cent? HE SANG TOO MUCH!!!
let me ask you this as well… what has wayne been doing for the past 2 years?
SINGING!
the difference is 50 would rap on his verses and sing on the hooks. wayne has countless songs where he sings… or his attempt at singing.
and doo flinky!!!!!!!!
p.s.s Kanye is a beast
Again, very good article.
this blog was wack to me…
pointless
ur still gonna post new wayne songs on here so shut the fuck up
never will be anywhere near the best im glad someone else actually realizes all this shitty music he puts out is worthless.
the bad outweighs the good by a largeeee amount.
bum ass “rapper”/ rocker/ homo/ white gothic mental case with black bleached skin.
but i do have to say now a days im almost at the verge of hating him and used to be my favorite rapper, but whatever i hope somehow he can go back to his drought 3 shit
dueces
I was a huge wayne fan, i’ve just already come to the realization that he fell off. don’t get me wrong though, i hope people get off his dick so he will stop making money off this shitty music so he is motivated to get back to his old self.
when wayne makes a good song, i am the first to admit it is a nice track. but if wayne has a bad song (all the time for the past 2 years) i call it how it is.
Wayne never perfected the writing part…if he got his thoughts all on a page he could really make some classic stuff…agreed
This ones adressed to you. One you hate, and critique everybody, but it’s like your trying to get everyone hyped up over something you made up. I mean you start using albums like 500 degreeZ and Lights Out, even the carter I, and II to base your opinions on the so-called over rated Lil Wayne. Is he Over Rated YES, yes he is. Because he is a genius using the MOST simplest metaphors, and dialect. And I mean SIMPLE, that’s what makes Lil Wayne our favorite Over Rated rapper reign above everyone right now. Every simple American, and Vietnamese can relate to him, no matter race or creed. Then the mentioning of like 10 mixtapes or so. Hmmmm dude every day theres a new Lil Wayne mix-tape, and about 20 or more official ones to fill the void between Carter II and III. Number’s dont lie, and Dwayne would say that to your face. Look at the number’s on the Dedication 3 or Drought is Over 6. SICK, google hit the roof 2 weeks before they hit the net with countless Dedications TAGS, millions baby!! Not to mention that HARD WORK yall spoke of……literally 2-3 or MORE New Lil Wayne verse’s are dropped Every DAMN week man. Now that’s dedication. With all that said, Im gonna give you the last proof in the pudding. My crew and I Master’s of the Universe Mix-tapes drop sick fire mix-tapes all over the net. Master’s of the Universe drops many, many artists, all exclusive material. Now this is a plug, with all the other artist listens can range from 5,000 to 6,000 a day on DatPiff, if their hot artist’s. One time we dropped a tape called " That New Weezy " and got 33,000 listens on Datpiff in a day’s time. Over rate those numbers. Then rate all the other mix-tapes that include new Wayne, and look at their numbers. Basically numbers do not lie, and numbers represent the people, and the people have rated Lil Wayne the Best Rapper Alive, and even you agree, using him constantly in your blogs, or do you………………………………………….
DJ MASTERMIND
Master’s of the Universe Mix-Tapes
Go Ill!
Go Ill!
Not Lights Out and 500 Degreez.
still like ’em tho.
good article.
But anywayz, I don’t agree with your opinion.. I think wayne is on top of his game. Dude can spit, and he’s consistant everytime. I get the feeling you’re a oldschool cat, probably in your late 20’s early 30’s because most of the guys you named that you feel overated, are some of the best dudes in the game. But after reading this then the Drake article, it really comes off like you’re a hater.. LoL
But I respect your opinion Old Man…
Go Ill!
I am i wayne fan a to z he legit is the resaon i got into listen to rap. and that is just becasue of my age and the way he has been out there and although i heard mixtape after mixtape of wayne ive actually tried to become more divesrse and listen to a littel of everyone
over rated wen ever someone is anywhere close to becoming the best or said to be the best or even the talked about in the same breath as the best there will be critics callin him over rated. wayne is twenty seven JUST reaching his full potential he is litteratlly stilla young guy in this game he might not come out with that album that has everyone breathing different haha that one that changes EVERYTHING but do not deny how good of a album the CARTER III was wayne is different i honestly feel he wants to become known as the best just in a different way he wants to be alround the THE BEST this auto thing has people feeling a different way abou thim but it just makes me respect him more because he wants to go off and branch into something that will just globaly make him more reknowned…..
plus AINT NO BODY FUCKIN WIT DEDICATION 2… Weezy F baby the mother fuckin carter bitch on my stick……
1.2pac
2.rakim
3.pubic enemy
4.biggie
5.Eminem
6.Ludacris
7.ice cube
8.immortal technique
9.krs-one
10.nas
11.big pun
12.jedi mind tricks
13.wu tang clan
14.lords of the underground
15.cypress hill
16.jean grae
17.joell ortiz
18.crooked i
19.a.k.i.r
20.pumkin head
21.poison pen
22.chino xl
23.bone thugz and harmony
24.common
25.lupe fiasco
26.diabolic
27.ill bill
28.dr.dre
29.snoop dogg
30.big l
but no lil wayne he at bottem of the wack rapper list which is not shown here lol
the emceez listed here will overload your understanding break down an atom and make it into nothing but air that can spilt the earth’s surface in two now that what hip hop is suppose to be. their alot great emcee not listed too many name and too not heard
this list is pretty accurate, i would add a few more and thats why in one of my posts he is top 50.
Switched everything around when Gillie came out exposing him
Yall got to understand, Wayne isnt the same Wayne from Carter I, II, 500 degreez etc.. Because he got more money and living a rich lifestyle. The money has changed his style of life which influences his style of music. But he chin checked the industry with that Dedication 3. Dedication 3 was a classic, wayne came correct on that shit.
But Lyrical, trust my dude.. I totally respect the article because it was well written and you made a strong case. You just did what alot of websites are scared to do.. I solute you for that
wayne isn’t overly-hated. dude just fell off. you call yourself a wayne fan… well… i am too. but PLEASE listen to C1, C2, Like Father Like Son, Drought 3, etc. etc. and if you can say anything he has put it in the past 2 years is anywhere close to that material, you are one reason why wayne is overrated.
I bet I have listened to wayne more than you and even longer than you (unless you are just a crazy dick rider, but idk that). but i have also realized that his music is not the same. if he puts out shitty songs, which he does consistently lately, i don’t just say its tight simply because its wayne. thats one thing that wayne stans dont get, even the best (which wayne is NOT) have songs that aren’t that great. once you realize this, you will see why wayne gets so much criticism (not hate).
all i’m saying is listen to c1 then listen to c2 then c3. if you think c3 is good after listening to those other two, you have something wrong with you. for instance, i’m a huge eminem fan, but i will admit encore wasn’t that great. same with jay’s kingdom come. same with nas’ untitled. just because they all have a few really tight songs doesn’t mean they are awesome. c3 is terrible, lyrically wayne’s worst anything (albums or mixtapes).
he had so much time where he could have made that shit better. don’t say it leaked as a defense. part of that was due to him trying to whore out the industry. take a look at eminem, there has been talks of a new em album for more than a year and the first single dropped the exact day it was supposed to. look at detox, same thing. like six years in the making and they didn’t start leaking anything until a few months ago when the talk started getting bigger. the leaked tracks were from them. it’s not hard to not leak a track if you don’t want it leaked, artists are leaking tracks because you need internet publicity. look at ross, he lost the beef with 50 but some people think he won because he was leaking all his tracks when 50 wasn’t putting anything out… 50 just isn’t dumb, ross was leaking his ALBUM just to stay relevant.
C3 got pushed back multiple times and he could have easily pushed it back once more to take out at least a few of the whack songs to make it better.
wayne’s got talent, but he doesn’t really know how to use it. instead of putting out 2 quality (classic) mixtapes he freestyles and puts out 30. Quality over quantity.
“i’m the best rapper and i mean it too. rhyme words like beatlejuice beatlejuice.”
plus if you look at his track record…
- said he is the only one that kisses baby in an interview way before he was caught kissing him
- kissed baby
- SELF PROCLAIMED best rapper alive
- ghost writers
- dissed jay-z… his favorite rapper out of nowhere
- jay-z fired back and destroyed him
- wayne backed down
- wayne takes random shots at 50 but when 50 replies… wayne shuts up
- strapped condoms ad
- he basically admits he is gay in one song. I forget what song, but its after c3. i remember listening to it and thinking wayne is finally coming back then he comes with the line “YES… Weezy fuckin baby with his fruit ass.” i immediately turned the song off and shook my head.
there is more to it, all i’m saying is read this article with an open mind. i’m a huge wayne fan but there is no denying he is NO WHERE NEAR THE BEST.
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all i’m saying is listen to c1 then listen to c2 then c3. if you think c3 is good after listening to those other two, you have something wrong with you. for instance, i’m a huge eminem fan, but i will admit encore wasn’t that great. same with jay’s kingdom come. same with nas’ untitled. just because they all have a few really tight songs doesn’t mean they are awesome. c3 is terrible, lyrically wayne’s worst anything (albums or mixtapes).
he had so much time where he could have made that shit better. don’t say it leaked as a defense. part of that was due to him trying to whore out the industry. take a look at eminem, there has been talks of a new em album for more than a year and the first single dropped the exact day it was supposed to. look at detox, same thing. like six years in the making and they didn’t start leaking anything until a few months ago when the talk started getting bigger. the leaked tracks were from them. it’s not hard to not leak a track if you don’t want it leaked, artists are leaking tracks because you need internet publicity. look at ross, he lost the beef with 50 but some people think he won because he was leaking all his tracks when 50 wasn’t putting anything out… 50 just isn’t dumb, ross was leaking his ALBUM just to stay relevant.
C3 got pushed back multiple times and he could have easily pushed it back once more to take out at least a few of the whack songs to make it better.
wayne’s got talent, but he doesn’t really know how to use it. instead of putting out 2 quality (classic) mixtapes he freestyles and puts out 30. Quality over quantity.
“i’m the best rapper and i mean it too. rhyme words like beatlejuice beatlejuice.”
plus if you look at his track record…
- said he is the only one that kisses baby in an interview way before he was caught kissing him
- kissed baby
- SELF PROCLAIMED best rapper alive
- ghost writers
- dissed jay-z… his favorite rapper out of nowhere
- jay-z fired back and destroyed him
- wayne backed down
- wayne takes random shots at 50 but when 50 replies… wayne shuts up
- strapped condoms ad
- he basically admits he is gay in one song. I forget what song, but its after c3. i remember listening to it and thinking wayne is finally coming back then he comes with the line “YES… Weezy fuckin baby with his fruit ass.” i immediately turned the song off and shook my head.
there is more to it, all i’m saying is read this article with an open mind. i’m a huge wayne fan but there is no denying he is NO WHERE NEAR THE BEST.
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words of advice – pick up Illmatic, Ready to Die, 36 Chambers, Paid In Full, Marshall Mathers LP and listen to those. A lot of you wayners may need a dictionary and a thesaurus to understand a lot of what is being said, but stick with it and one day you may truly understand good hip-hop.
Plus if you want to go off record sales, wayne is losing in that as well. Highest selling hip-hop album of all time (Speakerboxx/Love Below) is a great album, but its not the best, so Wayne lost there. Eminem also has him beat on first week numbers. No matter how you look at it, Wayne is not the best. Lyrics, numbers, production, etc. Don’t get hottest rapper AT THE MOMENT confused with BEST ALIVE/BEST EVER.
1. 2 Pac
2.Rakim
3.Biggie
4. 50 cent (he may have lost his way but his earlier shit is good)
5.Ice Cube
6. Eminem
7.Nas
8. Ludacris
stand quiet you dont belong in realest rap family-
Wade could only be: Fabolous, Jadakiss, or Lupe. I can’t see anyone else being him.
Great read!
But tell us something that we DON’T know.
Peace!
Pac and Jay-Z were probably to mst versatile MCs you’ll ever hear…
Like I said I’m gon post a both side view of Wayne critiquing his passion for money and how it detours him from being a legend right now instead of just being a great artist No One will forget because thas a read not some biased blog wit comments I been readin for 2yrs. But props on pleasing tha masses now I’ll spark healthy thought and maybe defsounds will post its first REAL un-biased blog. (funny all tha ppl sayin its not biased saying tha same comments) I’m sorry you dnt get credit for pasting comments and calling it a blog. Be original spark some thought, open up a mind don’t go looking for hi-fives. Anyways, yes I’m ready to be called a Stan/groupie because I’m gonna use facts and not majority opinion persuasive writing but why are tha ones that dislike tha status Wayne has so afraid to reply to facts prolly because their opinions will be exposed. Opinions like me saying why do people that Love (REAL) Hip-HopHop front so much saying they love tha true killer of pure Hip-Hop DRE wit tha Chronic album, which I bump to but that album single handedly flipped tha whole game, thas where drugs, smoking, and shootin became kool to rap about, but we wanna waste time callin Wayne overrated for tha 1000th time. Oh why stop there how bout explain how BIGGIE gets mentioned in tha same sentence as Pac wit only 2 albums and sadly death cut him short on being that legend everyone speaks of to me “It was all a dream I use to read Word up Magazine” Write an article statin why he’s always top 3 but not jus cause people say so and in-depth like a Wayne blog, can it be done, oh he battled Pac or wait no he didn’t he made a noteworthy records dissing him same diff to yall right, whatevs gimme that article.
But you know what would be more interesting, prolly tha fact that Jay, Em, and T.I. all said Wayne is awordsmith in their own way and Jay said his delivery sets him apart, but I guess I’ll respect tha word of a writer over respected artist. Then wait for your favorite artist to do a song wit him, if they haven’t already lol…blog coming soon
2 fingers
I think it’s funny how you really think your’ reply was intelligent with your post below me.
“Funny how all these politicaly correct posting cats aint have no reply for my comment, yea it may be a little long but all yall so called “educating cats on real Hip-Hop” would rather reply to opinions and not facts or real talk I wonder why…yall kill me on here you’ll go back and forth wit someone you call a fool but wont answer real talk. Thas why this site is really called defsounds cuz nobody listens just a bunch of throwing opinions that can be argued forever might as well be deaf…."
get out of here, your reply is worthless without those facts that you claim to have. your’ reply is the same biased bullshit every other wayne rider comes with. QUALITY over QUANTITY!
I’m gonna get trashed now like every other time i say that cause wayne riders can’t grasp that quality over quantity concept just yet.
Styles P
Jay Z
Nas (to yall he mite be boringbut to me he GOAT)
Scarface(Da True King of da south)
its not his fault that some of his fans are overly fanatic… that dont make him overrated that just make them over zealous
What exactly is Wayne’s draft class boy?
He’s been out since he was a child? so what exactly do you mean?
I hope you don’t mean age group. Because his pen game is shit compared to Lupe Fiasco (whose just a few months older might I add).
Just some real talk for you.
Peace!
There’s respect for being where he is, but he really does have no classic that will remain once he’s gone.
EMINEM be G.O.A.T while NAS be GOD
“I rather blend out than try to blend in, because these days everyone looks familiar following the same trends”
Please use Your/You’re in your editorial posts. Also, there/they’re/their. Seriously, it’s not hard at all. Your post is pretty clean, but lacks grammar.
I DO, however, think he’s overrated. While he was amazing in his hay-day (before after TC1, before TC3), you gotta keep that up for a longer period of time to be one of the best EVER, and that’s what people treat him like.
2 fingers
2 fingers
“check it out, i’m the c-a-s-an-the-o-v-a
and the rest is f-l-y
ya see i go by the code of the doctor of the mix
and these reasons i’ll tell ya why
ya see i’m six foot one and i’m tons of fun
and i dress to a t
ya see i got more clothes than muhammad ali and i dress so viciously
i got bodyguards, i got two big cars
that definitely aint the wack
i got a lincoln continental and a sunroof cadillac
so after school, i take a dip in the pool
which really is on the wall
i got a color tv so i can see
the knicks play basketball
hear me talkin bout checkbooks, credit cards
more money than a sucker could ever spend
but i wouldnt give a sucker or a bum from the rucker
not a dime til i made it again
ya go hotel motel whatcha gonna do today (say what)
ya say im gonna get a fly girl gonna get some spankin
drive off in a def oj
everybody go, hotel motel holiday inn
say if your girl starts actin up, then you take her friend
master gee, am I mellow
its on you so what you gonna do”
Notice what they said in that song.
But…what exactly are you saying dude?
2 fingers
And No, Wayne does NOT need to write shit down! yes Im mad. Think about it, wayne’s signature style is his free association of words and thoughts.
THAT IS PART OF HIS APPEAL! How you gonna say he needs to stop and write? All the poeple who write bore me to death and millions of other people.
Song writing? Are you stupid? You don’t even know what that means. Wayne has several masterfully layed out songs like La la, how could something, shoot me down etc. You want to tell me there was somethign structuraly wrong with those songs?
I can tell your an old head. And this is why old heads will be extinct because of their like of foresight.
You CANNOT compare anyother rappers style making songs to Wayne. How you gonna judge a guy thats completely different from everybody to a conventional hip hop artist? Once again, one of the main appeals of wayne is that he is different. No, he will not rap like Biggie, makes songs like Pac or spit like Jay all the time. You know why? Because he is WAYNE.
Oh and you trying to critique the way in which he rhymes is just dumb. You know why? because that is nit picking. Wayne’s play on words is alot more impressive than a wordy verse from say, Nas. Tell me I’m lying, sometimes don’t you listen to a nas verse and go, “Nas couldnt u have broken those words down in a witty yet complex manner?? you confusing yourself”
Thats why I respect Jay-Z. He kicks more knowledge than a wordy rapper like Nas but does it with less words. That’s wayne’s style.
And to end it all, isn’t it funny that this drug addict, non writing, fire spitting animal of a rapper is still probably the best guy rapping now? haha.
Im say it here and quote me, When wayne is done he will be considered the G.O.A.T. Rather you like it or not.
End of Discussion.
C1 = Classic.
C2 = Classic.
Niggas worship those albums. Who are you??
Wayne doesn’t make sense sometimes? You from up North admit it. You Fubu rockin fucks dont understand the accent and come around and say it didn’t make sense LMAO.
Wayne will never fit into yall standards of what you think is “hip hop”. So stop while you’re behind. He is beyond. Revolutionaries are always opposed while their alive. You’re just a speck on the legend.
Go DJ was released close to ten years ago. How you gonna ether yourself like that?? LMAO. You remembered it didn’t you??
You a hater. Period.
Why do people go crazy when Project Chick or Block is Hot comes on at wayne’s tour? Why don’t they forget like yo stupid hatin ass?
Get a Job. This hating thing aint working for you. You watchin wayne acsend to beyond iconic levels and you here nit picking him when he wouldn’t even employ you to clean his tour bus..
S. M. H
Wether you like him or not, Lil’ Wayne is the most known rapper EVER.
CORY GUNZ EMINEMED LIL’ WAYNE ON “A MILLI”…THAT’S WHY HE TOOK THE REMIX OFF THE ALBUM.
BOTTOMLINE…THE NIGGA IS NOT A BETTER “RAPPER” THAN HALF THE INDUSTRY…AND I’M SOOOOO GLAD THAT JADAKISS IS FINALLY SNATCHING WAYNE’S THUNDER! NO HATE TOWARDS LIL’ WAYNE HIMSELF…JUST HIS BRAINLESS FOLLOWERS. I’M A HUGE JAY-Z FAN…BUT I ADMITTED WHEN EMINEM OUT-SHINED HIM ON “RENEGADE”, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS PRODUCED BY EM. AND I ADMITTED THAT JAY-Z LOSS THE BATTLE TO NAS. AND I KNNNNNNNNNOW JAY IS REALLY THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE…PERIOD.
JAY-Z = MICHAEL JORDAN: I MEAN REALLY, WHO’S FUCKIN’ WIT HIM?
JADAKISS = KOBE BRYANT: ARGUABLY, THE BEST DOING IT RIGHT THIS MINUTE.
T.I. = LEBRON JAMES: U CAN NEVER DENY, THIS DUDE IS RIGHT THERE…
LIL’ WAYNE = DWAYNE WADE = VERY TALENTED…VERY POPULAR…BUT HE STILL HAS MORE TO PROVE…AS A “RAPPER”, NOT A GRINDER. THERE’S A FUKN DIFFERENCE, ASSES!
Jadakiss? The same n1gga wayne MURDERED on his own album on “deathwish”
FUCK. OUTTA. HERE
Wayne>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
yeah we got alot of dance shit coming out the south but its wat people want to hear.. people need shit to get hype off of in the club.. you aint bout to take no bitch home from the club standin there talking bout “when they play some real lyrics” clubs gone lose money tryin to fuck wit yall..
hip-hop aint dead either.. its evolving.. get wit it or listen to some oldies, or pop music.
so tell me…Swizz Beats is spittin’ right now…if Swizz drops an album that was heavily promoted and well received by the public…Swizz sells 2 million in two weeks…Nas’ album drops, Def Jam (not the best at promoting anymore) only sells 500K copies…is Swizz a better “rapper” or a more marketable “artist”??? GET THE SHIT STR.8!!!!! HE’S NOT THE BEST “RAPPER”
And whoever said Lil wayne has classics..your a sad man. He has no classics. You may like is album alot…shit I love Carter 1. But no way its a classic.
Your a clown.
Get money and get movin….nuff said
Biggie
Nas
Any member in Wu-Tang GZA could argueably put a fight with anyone on this list
Big Pun
Lupe
Andre 3000
Big L
Cant think of anyone else Jay is good but I just have never been able to bump a whole album of his thats why hes not in my top everyone says Reasonable Doubt was that shit i just never saw it
and i believe that he is a mainstream rapper.he shouldnt even be compared to some of the greatest.i think hes the best in the game right now, but not the greatest of all time.
hes the best in the game because everyone likes him,and hes making millions off of bullshit music.which he somehow managed to pull off.i guess it shows you a lot about the U.S. in general.i could go on and on, but i’ll stop here.
and i believe that he is a mainstream rapper.he shouldnt even be compared to some of the greatest.i think hes the best in the game right now, but not the greatest of all time.
hes the best in the game because everyone likes him,and hes making millions off of bullshit music.which he somehow managed to pull off.i guess it shows you a lot about the U.S. in general.i could go on and on, but i’ll stop here.
I’m from New York and yeah us New Yorkers are overly critical. But I would like to know how do yall think Wayne is better than T.I.? Wayne backed down from Hov, Gillie & 50. T.I. never backed down from Lil’ Flip. So what Wayne put up some songs that were chart toppers, Tip did too. And Wayne’s mainstream success is just as great as Tip’s. They are both from the south so why aren’t they being compared?
I would love to know who the hell yall listened to before The South got hot
V.A. BEACH STAND UP!!!
BAYSIDE ARMS
nd g-unit has had 2 gd albums.
judge hm ba album sales or money he is da best in last 10 yrs
lil waynes carter 1 and 2 was shhhiiitttt compared 2 resonable doubt.anyone thats disagrees is retarted.just simply because lil wayne had a ghost writter 4 both those albums assholes.resonable dout is a classic independent album nobody will forget or stop listening 2 10-20 years from now.fuck listening 2 lil wayne spitting a cater 1 gillie verse.lol.heres the list negros.lol
1.)Biggie Smalls (dr.j a.k.a julius erving of hiphop)
REASON WHY:
simply because he originated the slam dunk a.k.a. in hiphop as the in ya face punchlines.dr.j was the best at that and originated alot of “dunks we see 2day”
2)Jay-z (aka jordan)
REasonable no doubt lol
simply because he took the “slam dunk” (in ya face punchlines) 2 a whole nother level.along with metaphors aka crossover dribbble.12 years of success in music off the back puts you in the top 10 all time.thats very hard 2 do.market a old guy but he stays relevant cause mj can still play.lol.but he puts words 2gether like no other rapper has ever done.starting from his 2nd lp.plus his jordan like buisiness skills and he consistintly won championships like mj.also mj made his team better so did jay.even though jay left the bulls in the cold they did well when they played 2gether.but currently he is lookin like mj when he was playing 4 the bulls he should stop now while the greatness is still there. lol.
THESE SPEAK 4 THEMSELVES
3)PAC
4)NAS
5)SLIM SHADY (EMINEM)LOL NIGGAZ DNT CALLEM DAT NOMORE
6)KRS ONE
7)BIG DADDY KANE
8)BIG L
9)JADAKISS (CONTRAVERSIAL)
10)ADRE 3K (CONTRAVERSIAL)
CONTINUES
1. eminem
2. lupe fiasco
3. andre 3k
4. jay-z
5. 2pac
6. lloyd banks
7. t.i.
8. big-l
9. method man
10. kanye west (the rapper)
and to be fair i never really listened to biggie, why? i dont know…notables tech n9ne, luda, proof, jadakiss, clipse, wayne, fabolous, 50 cent (pre-millionaire), common, and dude from gym class heroes…and dont sleep on asher roth
Chi-Lanta
wayne is possibly the most talented rapper ever to step in the game and then on top of that he got the work ethic i agree wit some of yo points that he would be better if he wrote his songs but can any person on this site cant say that he wont advance his flow like he always does?
i think u can compare him to kobe b/c they got the killer instinct, the haters, the swag and the work ethic and everytime someone doubted kobe he came back and got better year after year and after this year the kobe hater wont be able to say he cant win without shaq
but since when have one artist have the respect of most of the other people in the industry ive seen plenty interviews where they would ask someone who is the best rapper and they lil wayne got the crown explain that?
rather yall like it or not wayne and YM are the future of hiphop and they aint goin nowhere and by the time its all said and done i think weezy will be considered the greatest rapper of all time
Chamillionaire would destroy him if they ever battled.
just because u dont like it dont mean its trash
but u should at least respect it
peace!
LOOK THIS GUY IS THE NEXT WAYNE OR EVEN BETTER…
www.myspace.com/claudiuscaesar10
But he hasn’t progressed…What world are you living in? He is getting worse by the bar.
And no one fears Wayne…
Wayne is friends with most of the industry. There hasn’t been a rapper in the lime light with more friends then Wayne…in probably ever!
The last dominate rappers (popularity wise, let’s face it Wayne is the most popular rapper today)
50 Cent, Jay-Z, 2Pac, Eminem….people feared these rappers. They were involved in MANY battles and had problems with vast amount of artists.
No one fears Wayne…everyone is his friend.
Jordan over rated? Are you crazy? Essential to be overrated? Huh?
He’s only as powerful as the fans let him.
Jay-Z is as powerful as he wants to be.
Not comparing the two (there is no comparison) But I’m just showing you what TRUE power is.
Peace!
I’m from the north/East (Buffalo NY)
But even I know the best rappers in the game reside in the Mid West.
When was the last time New York produced a young hot MC? its been a while….Just real talk.
and y couldnt u compare jordan and wayne??… jordan was most popular in his day….and wayne is most popular in his day/…..kinda put ur dick in ur mouth on that one,,,“chaos”…but yea good commment.
You say his fan base has grown since way back then. How does that show Lil Wayne’s progression in lyricism? It doesn’t. It only show his progression in popularity. (but if that’s what you mean…by all means…YOUR ABSOLUTELY RIGHT)
I like Wayne…
But he peaked in 2004 with the Carter I, Carter II, Squad Up mixtapes, and The Dedication 2 he has yet to put out any material with that much acclaim since.
That was a few years ago buddy. How can his best work be years ago and you say he has progressed talent wise?
No…he’s bigger than he’s ever been.
But worse than he’s ever been.
VERY few rappers mentioned him in any top ten lists. NO rappers have claimed he was the best alive. Wayne provokes no fear. PERIOD. I’ll give you the floor and let you name any that does.
Like I said, people fear Jay-Z, even Wayne fears Jay-Z, he is the rapper today that we measure everyones success against. Not Wayne.
Don’t blame me.
It just is what its is.
WRONG.
See Jordan was not the most popular in his hay day. He’s the most popular PERIOD. Of Any Day. People still talk about Jordan today. Jordan hasn’t touch a basketball in years now.
Yet we still compare the likes of Lebron and Kobe (Who are TRULY the best + most popular in their hay day.)
And the fact wasn’t that Jordan was the most POPULAR. That wasn’t it at all. It was the Fact that he was the BEST.
Wayne is NOT the best. I agree he’s the most popular.
But it takes more than popularity to get a Jordan comparison. You gotta walk the walk fam.
There is only one rapper that warrants a Jordan comparison and that’s Wayne’s favorite rapper. Just real talk
Badam18:
“I took so much change from this rap game…Its Your Go.”
PEACE!
and us speaking of if he is feared is sorta irreverent……i look forward to meeting him but have not yet…….neither have u i assume?…sooo how that fuck could you tell us how dominant he is around other males?….or how much respect he has acclaimed??….or if hes feared…idk…i cant..
i just assume
and yaaa,,i guess we cant compare jordan-wayne….right now…
alll we can really do to judge waynes progression…and “talent”….is to sit back and wait…and see what he brings with his material…..rebirth?
1st the whole conversation of wether he was feared or not was a topic YOU brought to the table…so retracting your statement makes little sense. I do agree its irrelevant.
Glad you see it my way with the Jordan comparison.
However…you saying that he is not better than he was when he was 21 still makes no sense…So are you saying…that BECAUSE he was younger he can’t possibly be better? So because he’s OLDER he’s better?
No…
Young Jordan is Better than Old Jordan
Young Nas is better than Old Nas.
Age makes no difference when it comes to progressing of talent. People hit their primes at different times. Age only measures maturity. Which Wayne has shown very little.
Carter III will be remember for selling a million in a week. Nothing more.
What do you mean by song structure? I could break down his each song verse by verse and show you HOW poorly he structured his songs. i think you mean song topics. His topics were no doubt on point (in most cases) sometimes they were just idiotic.
But structurally it was TERRIBLE. More often than not he had problems staying on topic and riding the beats. THAT’S WHAT SONG STRUCTURE IS ABOUT. Which goes back to Lyrical Thought saying: He needs to start writing his shit down asap (he is no Jigga).
Me a hater? I even said I liked him.
And its WAAAAY better to be a hater than a dick rider.
See you in the funny papers bruh.
Peace!
Oh! ….“oo how that fuck could you tell us how dominant he is around other males?”
I don’t know where you getting that from, never said that…and I don’t role that way. And I hope you or Wayne doesn’t either.
Get you a Lupe CD. You’ll hear the REAL best of the new school.
I understand you feel strongly. Only thing I’ve done is poke holes in everything you said.
So whether or not you wanna address the holes in your opinion thats on you. Ignorance is bliss. And only a ignorant person wouldn’t listen to logic.
Once again being a lame is better than being ignorant.
Rest in Peace mane.
Peace!
Nas
Lupe Fiasco
Gunz
Nelly
LL Cool J
Raekwon
Among others, wayne is garbage.
Lupe
Kanye
Jeezy
Lil Wayne
Drake
Wale
Jay Z
Nas
Tupac
Eminem (even though i dont understand how he can be so amazing lyrical when talking about really horrible things)
And I dont remember the name of the dumbass that said who analyzes punchlines and metaphors anymore, but you should be extinct. You’re supposed to as a fan. If we didnt require some form of artistry in the music we listen to, then everybody could fuckin make a rap song. That’s why people like lame ass Lil’ Wayne and Soldier Boy. Cuz it makes you feel better about your crappy life, cuz you think, oh, I could do that. Well, you can’t! You never will and Wayne never will! Hip-Hop isnt dead, but it’s dying. Rappers like Wayne goin platinum shows the digression of our music industry. And that comment said about its what music is today and accept it. Knowing it’s trash and accepting it, is worse then, being oblivious and liking it.
maybe he can never do it consistently but every rqapper is trying to biggie, tupac, jay-z and nas….
he is doin something different which is why he can be proved as the best artist alive and maybe the best artist ever…
guys like cassidy and papoose would be able to kill him on a one on one though
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1. Lupe Fiasco
2. Charles Hamilton (people need to stop sleeping on this nigga)
3. Nas
4. Common
5. Asher Roth
6. Wale
7. U-N-I
8. Saigon
9. Skyzoo
10. Blu
11. The Clipse
12. Eminem
13. Curren$y (better than Lil Wayne in my opinion)
14. Mickey Factz
15. Kidz In The Hall
16. The Cool Kids
17. Murs
18. Termanology
….There are plenty more. Those are just 18 at the top of my head that are 5x’s better than Lil Wayne
Side Note: Lil Wayne would lose in any type of lyrical beef. YOU ARE NOT A TRUE MC IF U CANNOT DEFEND YOURSELF IN A BATTLE. He backed down from 50 Cent and Clipse. Which btw Pusha T bodied Wayne in one bar
“little nigga flow but his metaphors borin’
dont make me turn daddys little girl to orphan
that’d mean i’d have to kill baby like abortion”
ethered wayne
dats real dats y when da money n these timez get right i’m siginin myself chek my mixtape out on page and on datpiff gimme feedback y’all gon vibe da mixtape so fucks wit it ya boy ryder YaDiG myspace.com/ryderdp305
DONT ever come back here again.
wwwwwoowwww, wayne is nott the best.
anymore atleast.
but you for sure cant say hes overrated
yyu can, but yu cant.
do yu not understand wy everybody that likes
him likes him?
duhhhhh, because he makes big/good music.
and he makes hisself known by doing that.
yeahyeeeahh, he dont really spit that long.
butttt…
he doesnt have too, like i was listenin too ‘bitch i feel me’.
or ‘i feel me’, whatever.
its like wha, 50 somethin seconds.
an it made perfect sense too me.
along with tha rest of tha mixtape.
which only had like 17 songs.
he doesnt neeeed too spit that long
an also when he raps he doesnt really
stay on topic, yeah.
because he switches it upp, doesnt like too
be boring withh it, ya diggGg?!?
wayne is allll around, GREAT
wwwwwoowwww, wayne is nott the best.
anymore atleast.
but you for sure cant say hes overrated
yyu can, but yu cant.
do yu not understand wy everybody that likes
him likes him?
duhhhhh, because he makes big/good music.
and he makes hisself known by doing that.
yeahyeeeahh, he dont really spit that long.
butttt…
he doesnt have too, like i was listenin too ‘bitch i feel me’.
or ‘i feel me’, whatever.
its like wha, 50 somethin seconds.
an it made perfect sense too me.
along with tha rest of tha mixtape.
which only had like 17 songs.
he doesnt neeeed too spit that long
an also when he raps he doesnt really
stay on topic, yeah.
because he switches it upp, doesnt like too
be boring withh it, ya diggGg?!?
wayne is allll around, GREAT
http://vimeo.com/4844522?pg=embed&sec
“he is not as versatile on topics as many would like to lead you to think (but neither is Jay-Z, and nor was Biggie or Pac)”
Jay z has diversity when it comes to concepts to songs. So does pac… Especially 2pac
5 rings bitch!!!!!
5 rings bitches!!!!!!!!!!1