Lets Try This Again

by Lyricalthought on October 2nd, 2009

I've been a dedicated writer for Defsounds.com for some time now, along with doing articles and editorials, I have also been very involved with doing a majority of album reviews for this website. In all of my reviews I have tried to be fair, and I have always tried to list reasons for certain decisions. Sometimes you guys agree, on other occasions you disagree. But now that some time has passed I would like to take a look at a couple of albums that I may or may not have reviewed and change the rating.

50 Cent: Curtis

Original Rating- 8

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I originally gave this album a 8 out of a possible ten. I justified this by stating that 50 stuck to the topics, he painted a picture and brought you back to his Southside day's. But in hindsight he did the same exact thing on Get Rich Or Die Trying, and then again on the Massacare, and then over and over again in his mixtapes. Everytime 50 drops a good song, fans tend to say that he's getting back to his gritty style, well to be honest he didnt stop being gritty, so he's not doing anything new. It's still a good album, just not an 8. So seven will be my new rating. New Rating- 7

 

Fabolous: From Nothing To Something

Original Rating-6

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When I look back at this rating, I realize that I was way too hard on Fabolous. I mean yes it is true that he talks about the same thing on every album, and yes it is true that he had a feature on almost every song, but at the end of the day, he had great songs on the album; he made good music. I also rated very hard towards his lyrics. He didnt fall off lyrically, he just hasn't improved or shown much improvement on that album, but even that is not enough to lose points on. From Nothing To Something was a good album. New Rating-7.5

 

Lupe Fiasco: The Cool

Original Rating-8

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I was not the one who wrote the review for this album, but I never agreed with the rating. The Cool was by far the best album that came out that year. Lupe had an amazing concept which he stuck to (unlike Fabolous), made great commercial songs, and still had depth and content in this album. The Cool was an intelligent album, which gave the street stories from a different perspective, while not being so heavy that it could be considered depressing music. This album was definitely one that will be remembered for years. New Rating-9

 

Kanye West: 808's & Heart Breaks

Original Rating-8

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I am very well aware of how many Kanye fans we have on this site, so I will not be surprised when I receive a lot of hate for this rating change, but honestly 808's and Heartbreaks after some time a way is a disapointment. In baseball, if a player is caught using steroids or performance enhancers they are usually seen as cheaters. 808's and Heartbreaks was an album that Kanye really had no creativity in making. Almost 50% of the songs on the album were songs that had already come out years ago, most of which he didnt even bother writing new lyrics for; almost everything was the same as the original with the addition of some autotune and maybe an enhancement of the production. The album was in my eyes a karaoke album with autotune. If you dont believe me just check this out. Sorry Kanye. New Rating-4.5

Now before some of you jump to conclusions, know that the views in this blog are my opinions, and are not those of Defsounds.com. If you want to get in contact with me feel free to do so at my email. Lyricalthoughts@gmail.com

 
 
 
 

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shook6045 months ago
Video in link doesnt work for me, but overall i agree with this blog.
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forevabeastin5 months ago
damn you lost credibility with that 808s and heartbreak albums that album is not a classic in hip hop but is a classic in overall music

you gave from nothing to something a higher rating!?! ARE YOU ON DRUGS???

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callmehdre5 months ago
lyrical thought we dont like u wheres jokesta dis shit made me go hit a j …..not a basketball dogg
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50kingz5 months ago
DS has the worst reviews next to HHDX
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assholebynature5 months ago
“damn you lost credibility” <———— Hahahahaha when did he have that?
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callmehdre5 months ago
not a album i s good but fab
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assholebynature5 months ago
Also I think Lupe deserves a 11 out if 10. An eight to a nine? Shit is a ten, easy ….. when it came out ……… and now.
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pmoney35 months ago
lyrical thought u a bitch. 808 n heartbreaks was amazing. you keep talkin bout how rappers be talkin bout the same shit well kanye switched it up nad actually used creativity my nigga kanye is a genius and that was album was at least an 8.5 and u give it a 4.5 nigga fuck outta here wit that bullshit
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pmoney35 months ago
and plus are you bored or somethin nigga this blog is pointless u gave curtis and 8 and now your givin it a 7?? like anyone gives a fuck
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yungmayoxxx5 months ago
50 cent album was a 10

kanye west album was a ten

this blog is a 2.5, id trash your blog if i could nigga, id trash your blog if i could, real talk!!!!!
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truf935 months ago
WO! THAT KANYE WAS KILLER, YOU KNEW YOU WAS GO GET SOME RESPONSE ON THAT! I THINK YOU SHOULD WRITE A NEW BLOGG UP ON THAT AND GIVE IT AT LEAST A 7… AND I AGREE WITH THE LUPE PART!
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betyalyfe5 months ago
hell nah i agree with u all the way on that kanye album
i would give it a 4.5 in the 1st place, that album fuckin sucked
all of u can honestly say u put this album in rotation on ur cd player and u still have friends?
hell nah u gotta be a homo to really listen to that kanye shit, he fucked up all those classic songs with the autotune, the shit was really not original at all
i mean seriously? u all actually put kanyes album in the cd player in ur car? u really drove down the block bumpin that shit? really?
i highly doubt it
i dont care what kanye has done in the past or how well he produces (he is a great producer) u cant honestly say u enjoyed listening to that shitty ass album
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taytrav45 months ago
Man I put on 808 when I have trouble sleeping.
Real talk!
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marco35255 months ago
50 one I disagree it’s an 8
Fabo I think a 7
Lupe I agree a 9
and 808 for sure garbage haha
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gitmunny5 months ago
i agree wit everything except 808’s… it not a 8 but its not 4.5 either… i’d say 6.5- 7…. it wasnt as bad as it coulda been… plus u gotta consider his situation n whea his head was at (pause… 4 u fags)… not bad but not great
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yankeesfan42475 months ago
I agree with beta, I kinda felt like punching my homeboy when I rode with him playing that bullshit.
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domo165 months ago
from nuthin to sumthin was fabs worst album hands down. he had red cafe ghost writtin for him & he feel off on that album in my personal opinion
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bjdaniels5 months ago
ok now i agree wit lupe album…but dam that ratin for kanye west was low as fuck…he didnt deserve that it wasnt that dam bad
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jeffreyadams5 months ago
You must not realize what the term “artist” means.
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jeffreyadams5 months ago
No reference to Loso’s Way. From nothing to something is old.
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gitmunny5 months ago
all these albums r old… thats y he re-rated them
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sparkfirehot5 months ago
The curtis album sucked so hard fareal.
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50kingz5 months ago
curtis>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bp3
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chalieboy5 months ago
ur a fucking idiot
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kingkoopa745 months ago
I agree with all the review changes, aside from Kanye’s. He stepped out on his own and tried something different, and there is some really good material on the album. It should definitely stay at an 8 (at least). I’d rather see someone continue to diversify and grow in their music, rather than someone doing the exact same thing every time.
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jbarz5 months ago
i agreed with most of it too but on kanye i would say 7 because for me its not something i could listen to everyday, maybe now and again thats why its a 7
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jokesta5 months ago
Disagree with 808’s….in its entirety it’s a great album.
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murderinc5 months ago
that album don’t even deserv to be reviewed by a hip hop web site

it was a " Pop Art " album
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lyricalthought5 months ago
do you really beleive that
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jokesta5 months ago
The album is composed really well from start to finish. It’s contextually a great piece of work. It’s darker than most would hear it to be. Dude loses two of the most important females in his life and this was the end product. You walk away with that after listening to it.
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whodat1185 months ago
hell yea jokesta i agree that abulm from start to finish is really nice if you are sad and having a bad day that Cd cud reflect that emions they were more like poem than rap and thats my Heartbreaks is one of my fav Albums ever its classic
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dooflinky5 months ago
when you do the math, my homo drastically multiplied after listening to 808 and heartbreaks, i’ma about to throw it in and put it on replay!
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whodat1185 months ago
hahahahah doo but i liked the Cd
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assholebynature5 months ago
Hahahahaha
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notyou5 months ago
hahahahaahha

go doo
go doo
it’s birthday!

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yungmayoxxx5 months ago
props to doo!
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hedgehog565 months ago
the only thing 808s is good for is singing along to while drunk as fuck.
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msk4205 months ago
Keep hedgehog away from the razor blades..

Just remember when listening to 808’s kids, its up the road, not across the street…

Shit is EMO as fuck
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sthamogul5 months ago
I prop u Lyrical Thought cause u had me upset wit ya review of Loso’s Way. You are on point with the rest of ya reviews EXCEPT ya lame review of BP3.
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lyricalthought5 months ago
Loso’s way lost because it was supposed to be a concept album, no one asked for a concept album, he said he wanted to make one. So if he’s the one that wanted to do it, how did he completely skip out on the concept that he wanted?
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murderinc5 months ago
Kanye West: 808’s & Heart Breaks

Original Rating-8

50 Cent: Curtis

Original Rating- 8


so how much did they pay you ?!!

just curious …
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theplanesgotit5 months ago
coming from someone who has their username “murder inc” and their picture “G-UNOT”… I wonder why you might not have like 50’s album….
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whodat1185 months ago
well i like this good change on the rating but i got something to say on some of these Curtis was spot on, i really like some of the song but some i didn’t; Massacre and Get Rich or Die Trying wud be 8s n this Was his worst Cd by far so I wud rate this a 6.5 tho

Fab Cd i could care less for but i wud rate it a 7

The Cool damn this was a great abulm but i wud leave it at 8 tho its nice but 9 naw too high The Black Album (this is just my fav. example of a great an album is i always talk bout it lol) is a 9, The Cool was a great Album but 9s is too high for that

808s and heartbreaks well dont hate me now i like this Alubm you rated it first as 8 which ahaha yea too high 4.5 What??? a 4.5 wud be Shaq Diesel hahah Heartbreak yea autotune but the song lyrics were really good Heartless, Amazing ft. Jeezy, Love Lockdown and See You In My Nightmares ft. Weezy; these songs is crack… Autotune sucks dick but if he could sing these songs n not have autotune we might look at this Abulm diff. one of the most creative and Daring things to do with this Cd that Kayne did to put a whole Cd on Auto, but the crazy thing is he used the auto the best, the thing with this tune; Wayne makes it sound horrible you have to work with the Tune, Drake uses it pretty good but West did it the best, i love the R&b flow to this Cd i wud rate it a 7

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whodat1185 months ago
on that 808 a 7.5 actually no a 7
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cypressds5 months ago
nigga we dat
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whodat1185 months ago
hahah i like that i song i wsa jammin to it when i picked my name lol
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emgee4205 months ago
lupe is the only album worth listening to out of the 4
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mecca095 months ago
i agree lupe still gets play in my ipod im so waiting for lasers but i was amped for that curtis to drop the beef he had wit camron which i actually like when he on top of his shit like that verse he spit on kanye west “gone” but anywho fif album didnt meet all my expectaions but yea i was personally bumpin it on a day to day basis for a minute fab is always gonna be fab yes he got bars but he does nothing for me and 808’s was decent only cus like someone said dude lost his mom and still had the guts to do an album also he did change it up he showed his range heartless, nightmares, amazing, say you will all good cuts that i can see myself playing five years from now! so yea ur re-review was a lil harsh on yeezy!
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rific175 months ago
808’s is great….u need to go through some things to appreciate it
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canispeak5 months ago
yeah that link isnt working for me either
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whoyoube5 months ago
lol if anything 808s grows on you, not the other way around.
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wstewart5 months ago
these old ass albums and you made this thread just to go back and contradict yourself.
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mainesource5 months ago
i dont think that curtis should have got a 7 6 at most! www.mainesourceofficial.com check it out let us know what you think of the music and the movement

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koolkid5 months ago
the cool is a perfect 10 dude, one of the best albums of this decade easy!
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kelloggz5 months ago
cosign the loso and kanye new ratings curtis should have stayed at a 8 tho….
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gblocker5 months ago
opinions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!not really bad ones when u think about it!!!!
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makaveli14905 months ago
I question some people sexuality on here, seriously

But gblocker right, OPINIONS
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gangstalicious5 months ago
when i listen to 808 i get in my pink thong and dance around a blowup doll of birdman and pretend that im his stripper
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yunghaze185 months ago
I bet you do..Only a homo would say that..
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ghastly5 months ago
well it is birdman…
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yunghaze185 months ago
The cool and 808’s could be considered music that can be remembered.. 10 years from now Imma still relate to “Hip hop saved my life” and “Heartless”.. I in the future will remember hip hop did save my life because people wrote songs that had feelings that I had when I was young.. and I am probably gonna get married and get tired of the whole stressful relationship thing fighting and arguing so heartless would be a perfect play for me.. I think 50 and fab are good right now artist’s that have hip songs but eventually fade away with time… DUMB IT DOWN
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whodat1185 months ago
my fav track on that Cd that i will remember is the The coolest “coolest nigga what?”
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mecca095 months ago
i say that when i pray " lord please have sympathy and forgive my cool young history" so real so true!
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lneecefitts5 months ago
So true.The Cool is a CLASSIC album mann. Everything was so orginal. It was one of those albums you could put on repeat and just zone out mann. Lupe deserves soooooo much more credit, definitly my favorite Emcee.
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ghastly5 months ago
raekwon OB4CL2 original rating: 9

change that shit to 10. if an album thats come out in the last 5 years that deserves to be 10 its that 1
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justus5 months ago
I like the premiss Lyrical thought and I agree with most everything your new ratings especially 808’s. Its not even the fact that alot of the material isn’t original its just that the album didnt really stand the test of time and not that much time has gone by either. That album gets boring quick,fast and in a hurry. Lupe’s the cool should have got a ten though.
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valente5 months ago
808’s was wack shit. he did ah good job. mayb a 5 for it if anything but thats it.
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slim20125 months ago
this is cool 4.5 808 lmao i give it a 4
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cali7605 months ago
kanye went all gay and homotional with the auto-tune
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hazzjb5 months ago
What the fuck are you talking about? The only songs on 808s that sampled anything, were Robocop, Bad News and Coldest Winter (and possibly Heartless?). Are you really telling me Say You Will or Welcome to Heartbreak weren’t good songs? Comparing Music to Sport is stupid, if you see music as a competition, then I feel sorry for you. He wasn’t just using auto-tune as a singing aid, the contrast between heavy 808s, piano riffs and the robotic auto-tune worked really well. Most of your posts are insightful and intelligent, but you sound like you don’t know what your talking about. What other song except Coldest winter did he not write the lyics for? It’s depressing that in the a world of cheap RnB/Pop hits that when something fresh comes along people just dismiss it. It deserves a 6 – 8.
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chaos965 months ago
I agree 100 percent.

Nothing else I could really say.

The Cool is arguably a classic.
808s was one of the worst albums in recent history.
From nothing to something was a good album.
Curtis….


Good job man


PEACE!
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