[Blog] The Blueprints vs. The Carters

by Lyricalthought on October 6th, 2009

Unlike some of the people on the main page, I like to frequent the forums of Defsounds. I find it to be refreshing, because the volume of traffic is a lot smaller then the main page, so conversations can be started and finished without to many random intteruptions. Another thing that I enjoy about the forums are the great discussions that they have, so today when I logged on and saw the newest discussion, I knew that I just had to share it with you guys.

One of the more dedicated members of the forum Ballin101 created a new poll thread titled "The Carters V.S. The Blueprints". The explanation was quite simple, he wanted the members of the forum to pick which one they though was the better series of albums, was it the Blueprint series or the Carter series? Members of the forum began to respond right away giving their input, some picking The Carter series saying that the Carter's one and two were better then Blueprint 2 and 3, while others argued that the first Blueprint outweighed anything that Wayne had ever made so their was no competition.

The conversation really made me think about the albums and what I thought about them. It also made me want to know what you guys thought, so I figured why not accomplish both goals. Heres what I think.

http://media.defsounds.com/uploads/assets/717/783/27920/asset.jpegFirst off, Lil Wayne is a great artist, but he or any current rapper has no album that will ever match up to the first Blueprint, so it's out of the question. As far as Blueprint II, I think it received such poor reviews, because it came right after a classic album. if Kobe Bryant scores 81 points in one game, then comes back the next game and drops 45 does that mean that he had a bad game? Yes there is definitely a drop off in the number of points he had compared to the other game, but if you look at it realisticly not many people can drop 45 points in one game. I think that Blueprint II was Hov's 45 point game follow up to scoring 100 points, so since Blueprint II wasn't as effective as the first one people deemed it a dissapointment.

I actually loved Blueprint II; that's the album that was playing in my speakers before I left my house today and to be quite honest I dont think Carter II was better than Blueprint 2 either. Blueprint 3The Carter 3 although its still fairly new, it is still far superior to , like I said in the review, C3 could have been a mixtape. You could tell that there was no real effort in putting these songs in the album, besides the fact that they were the best songs that he made at the time. Lollipop was a fun song, and it did great in the clubs, but seriously I barely remember it anymore. Mr. Carter had the chance to be one of those timeless songs, but Wayne blew it by flopping in the clutch with his last verse, and other then that everything else is pretty average. Blueprint 3 has what is arguably the new New York Anthem with "Empire State Of Mind", one of those moment capturing songs with "Forever Young" and the ultimate motivator with "So Ambitious" those three songs alone outweigh whatever Wayne was trying to do with C3. So at the end of the day, the Blueprint series wins it for me by a lot. The only two albums that can be close in quality and effort in my opinion are the Blueprint 2, and the first Carter. So just to break it down in plain language here it is.

Blueprint over Wayne's entire career

Blueprint II over The Carter II

Blueprint III over The Carter III

 
 
 
 

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whoyoubeabout 1 month ago
why would you even compare this. its just gonna bring out the stans from both sides. objectively speaking, wayne cant touch jay.
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whoyoubeabout 1 month ago
bp2 shouldnt have been a double disc. too much fluff.
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nocartelabout 1 month ago

What’s the point of this TOPIC when it’s “already” set up one sided?
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goodsjrabout 1 month ago
This really not a legit comparison, but i must say I agree with you when u say:

Blueprint over Wayne’s entire career
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alg23about 1 month ago
the blueprint2 was betta den da first carter, but carter 2&3 is shittin on all 3 of da blueprints, jay juss cant fucc wit wayne lyrically right now
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pmoney3about 1 month ago
must i keep having to remind all you wayne haters:

carterIII=1.5 millie first week
blueprintIII=465,000 first week

lil wayne >> jay z
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pmoney3about 1 month ago
oh yea and lyrical thought u a bitch
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mrwhitefolksabout 1 month ago
pmoney it’s because there’s 1.5 mill little homos like you that begged their parents to buy that shit for them
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murderincabout 1 month ago
true that money … true that
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truf93about 1 month ago
GREATEST BLOG EVER! THE BLUEPRINT SERIES IS FAR OVER THE CARTER SERIES!
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shadeabout 1 month ago
People have to fucking stop saying he sold 1.5million the first week when in reality he only sold 1,005,545…stop bumping him up another 500k (gold record). BUT! If people wish to bring up record sales: The Blueprint series (3 albums) totals 5,908,000 albums sold, WHILE Wayne’s entire mainstream career (6 albums) totals at 6,500,000 albums sold (approximate figures). So, in three (3) albums Jay-Z only comes up 592,000 short to Wayne’s entire mainstream career.

So in short, Jay’s Blueprint Series > Wayne’s Career.
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mrk4533about 1 month ago
thank you whoyoube. i got on here to literally say that exact thing. this blog is fucking retarded and it’s going to get no where. everyone will just hate on wayne or suck his dick so it’s pointless. personally i think c2 is one of the best modern rap albums. but i also think all 3 blueprints are sick. so yeah all in all this argument is just stupid. plus this isn’t even bringing into play shit like drought 3/dedication 2 which i view as some of wayne’s best work to date. so yeah.
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skeazaleoabout 1 month ago
“What’s the point of this TOPIC when it’s “already” set up one sided? "


I mean really…you asked us a question, and then you answered it for us…..another DUMB ass blog……

and by the way……you LT talking like blueprint 1 is the fuckin bible or something??

It was a nice collection of songs, but the best cd ever? GTFOOH!
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gitmunnyabout 1 month ago
bp1 >>> c1 classic vs a good album
bp2 <<< c2 a good album vs a better album (waynes best album)
bp3 >>> c3 a masterpiece vs a disappointment
jay wins 2-1
not judging by 1st week sales… but by sr8 songs n lyrics… sorry 2 all u wayne stans lyk pmoney n dooflinky but these r tha facts: lil wayne idolizes jay thats y his whole career he was feenin 2 do a song wit jay n wen they did (mr. carter) jay ate him so bad on his own song he had 2 spit a 4th verse (that wasnt better than jays verse so it was pointless)… lil wayne is a good rapper he jus isnt (n never will b) better than jay
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notyouabout 1 month ago
this comparison is absurd..
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pvtcasperabout 1 month ago
Ya i agree with gitmunny and mrk4533. And Im a Wayne FANATIC!! I always say Wayne is hte best rapper alive. But When I read your guy’s post and looked at the comparison The Blueprint series beat the Carter series. But I break it down this way.
Blueprint 1 > All Carters
Carter 1 &2 > Blueprint 2
Carter 3 Aclomplishments > Greater than BP 2 & 3
Blueprint 3 > Carter 2 & 3
But out side of the discussion, Waynes fat ass library of mixtapes beats Jay-Z anyday.
Cuz Wayne has been in the game pretty damn long too but has been putting out way more than Jay. Cuz in 500 Degreez Wayne was spittin…Lights Out was nice too. and dont forget the Dedication’s, Squad Up’s (especially 7), And him Juelz and Drake have nasty ass verses on alot of mixtapes. And theres plenty more Wayne mixtapes. But Jays consistency has been better than Waynes. Because he isnt so saturated. But Wayne spits and if you cant admit it then your not a true hip hop head.
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hedgehog56about 1 month ago
bp > carter (obviously)

carter 2 > bp2 (loved carter 2, wayne at his peak)

bp3 > carter 3 (bp3 was solid, carter 3 was a disappointment)
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pacman305about 1 month ago
lyrical thought.. for someone who doesnt like wayne u sure do make a whole lottal blogs about him…
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pacman305about 1 month ago
and i might get thrashed for dis but i dont care… i like carter 3 over blueprint 3… it received far better reviews, got 2 number one singles (lollipop, a millie) and “got money” made it to number 2. while jay z bp3 d.o.a didnt even make it top 10 on da bill board run this town made it number 1 and empire state of mind is at 5. Also he got a couple grammys off da album. and sure the album wasnt what we all expected because are expectations was high but overall it was still a good album in my opinion.
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betyalyfeabout 1 month ago
carter 2 was crack, wayne was rappin like a rapper is supposed to rap, he sounded real grimey, hustlers related to him, even on his singles (hustler musik, tht was my shit)
jay is just jay, i mean overall jay would have the best cause they both fell off on the 3rd but wayne was pretty close to jay on the 1st 2 carters
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yunghaze18about 1 month ago
I look at like this Jay has made mad money off of his albums but look at waynes mixtape career.. You get paid for mixtapes believe it or not you can buy those bitches at bootleg stores.. He probably dont see the profits but that doesnt matter it sold.. I think waynes carter 1 and 2 outbeat jays blueprint 1 and 2 and both of their 3rd albums wasnt at they peak.. But who can push more I would say say cause look at his mixtapes I cant feel my face when it drops as a album its gonna push probably 500 units in one week.. Juelz and Wayne fans are gonna be on that shit.. So I think wayne has more potential to sell albums if he made shit that we can listen too… O yea carter Prebirth is gonna flop 400 in the first week and 150 more then folling month..
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yunghaze18about 1 month ago
Wow that was a shitty comment but yea wayne gonna push mad record in the future outbeating Jay Z… Wayne in his zone if he makes I cant feel my face albums he gonna sell mad cash.. That is gonna be a classic in my book ya dig..
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jmoney365about 1 month ago
ya this argument is to easy..gimmie jay by K.O.
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notyouabout 1 month ago
yo why can’t we prop/trash blogs that y’all defsounds dude’s put out?

i know i would trash this one till the streetcleaners come..
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locdog96about 1 month ago
c3 > jay-z
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psyberkayosabout 1 month ago
I think anyone who wasn’t old enough to even be listening to rap back when Reasonable Doubt came out (that means you underaged children whose first rap song was probably a Nelly or Ja Rule joint) doesn’t deserve to even speak on any part of Wayne’s career being better than Jay’s. Most of these dickryders probably didn’t even cop either of the first 2 Carters until they’d heard Da Drought 3 or Dedication 2 or something…
I mean really. If you even have to compare these two, you’ve gotta either be young or ignorant about hip-hop. Looking at the way C3 was built as an album, and looking at the lyrical weaknesses in Tha Carter, there’s NO CONTEST. Jay takes it.

Of course Wayne is goes down in history for his mixtape game because by the time the mixtape game was big on the internet, Jay was already too old for that.

Wayne is for the children. Jay is timeless. And he doesn’t whine like a bitch on autotune either.
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yungmayoxxxabout 1 month ago
lil wayne all day!!!!!!!!!!! over jay!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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scoop208about 1 month ago
this lyrical thought dude is a pee on
obviously wayne hater n jayz dick rider

carters are better then the blueprints
all carters are hot not all the bluprints are.
blueprint 2 was a total waste .had about 3 hot songs lol
and bp3 is so soft on a lyrical scale n jays flow is so dragging he cant keep up wit most the beats lol

all the editors on this site are wayne haters then they go further to make wayne blogs trying to hate on his succes and his popularity lol

wayne is the best rapper ever
jayz is a close 2nd lol
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getatchyaneckyoabout 1 month ago
Wow people are giving WAY TOO much fucking credit to wayne. im NOT a hater, but come on now, WHO REALLY CARED about The Carter one and two? The Blueprint one and two were CLASSICS.
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gitmunnyabout 1 month ago
scoop208 u wildin sayin wayne is tha best ever… u must be part of tha younger generation… wayne aint better than jay nas or eminem… he dont even got 1 classic album… hes not even top 5 ever… mayb top 10… i aint hatin cuz wayne is a beast wen he wanna b but hes not better than a lotta rappers
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king72331about 1 month ago
great blog. I personally like all 6 albums, yes even bp2 and c3.

If I had to choose I would say The Carter series just because I bumped them more and know every word to every song.
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braucabout 1 month ago
YALL SEEM TO FORGET THAT CARTER 3 WAS LEAKED OH ABOUT 1000 TIMES. IF THE ORIGINAL SONGS WERE ON THERE- KUSH, IM ME, GOSSIP, ETCTHEN C3 WOULDVE HAVE BLOWN BP3 OUT THE WATER N THAT SHIT WAS STILL GOOD. HOW CAN YOU SAY DONT SHOOT ME DOWN, AND MISUNDERSTOOD WERENT STRAIGHT CRACK???
AND AS FAR AS THE OTHER ONES.
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braucabout 1 month ago
BP1> C1 C2
BP2<C1 C2
BP3=C3 (BUT IF THE ORIGINAL SONGS WERE TO BE ON THERE THEN DEF BP3<C3)
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konmanabout 1 month ago
apart from the fact that this is a no brainer (obviously blueprint reigns supreme). why the fuck does every analogy have to be kobe scoring or lebron scoring. its getting fucking redundant. shit
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cypressdsabout 1 month ago
bp1>c1
bp2<c2 bp3>c3
my honest opinion, i like both artists the same (no homo)
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assholebynatureabout 1 month ago
Lyrical Thought stays writing about Wayne I don’t recall any blogs that aren’t about Wayne, from him.
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laxalbumof08about 1 month ago
Why are you people even comparing the two series of albums? Have you forgotten that Wayne didn’t even write his shit on the first two albums?
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youngboss174about 1 month ago
carter is hot but carter is nothing like the BLUEPRINT ^^
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ghastlyabout 1 month ago
SWAGGER JACKER dont snitch and dont steal another mans thread, there 2 iron laws. read my new blog for some original material if ya wanna here real fire and let me no what you thinkhttp://ghastly.defsounds.com/posts/1110_Modern_day_shakespeare
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younggippyabout 1 month ago
This site full of camel dickriders…Tha Carter series was and still is an album that set industry standards….
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awill044about 1 month ago
COMPARING THESE TWO ALBUMS IS DISRESPECTFUL TO JAY …… WAYNE NICE BUT CMONN NOW CARTERS ARENT EVEN CLOSE ……
JIGGA=G.O.AT
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spdaghostabout 1 month ago
why would u compare that… u should compare like blueprint 1 vs illmatic or something
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somervilleabout 1 month ago
Jay-Z. Easily.
Kingdom Come > Wayne
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insaiyanoneabout 1 month ago
You’re trippin’.
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dfcyphaabout 1 month ago
Kingdom Come was ass B
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somervilleabout 1 month ago
I’ve never liked anything Wayne has done.
Yes, I’ve listened to his mixtapes and his CD’s, Nothing I cared for.
Kingdom Come wasn’t good, but i like it more than anything Wayne has done.
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younggippyabout 1 month ago
U got johnny depp as an avi so nobody taking u seriously…tha Carter series is the rap version of MJ’s 80’s catalogue
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whoyoubeabout 1 month ago
you crusty the clown haircut having mothafucker! you stinkmeaner jr looking like mothafucker!
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youngdramaabout 1 month ago
lmfao
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laxalbumof08about 1 month ago
Younggippy you have a picture of Ru Paul as your avatar, noones taking YOU seriously.
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chalieboyabout 1 month ago
LOL RU PAUL LMFAOOOOOOO Johnny depp is a legend you fucking retard
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kmn7551about 1 month ago
Jay-Z easily.
The only album Wayne has over Jay is:
Carter II vs Blueprint 2
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king72331about 1 month ago
C1= better than BP2 & BP3
C2= better than BP2 & BP3
C3= better than BP2

BP1= better than C1-C3
BP3= better than C3

Wayne= 5 points
Jay= 4 points

There’s the proof, Wayne wins.
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alwaysffadeddabout 1 month ago
why even compare the two, thats unheard of. u got a syrup fucken idiot and then an entrepreneur
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shadeabout 1 month ago
What the fuck? lol this is retarded, the entire Blueprint series was groundbreaking, while the Carters just kept the man relevant. The Blueprint series imprinted Jay as one of the best rappers to ever do it (if not the best rapper alive), while Wayne finally caught mainstream success after his 3rd installment to his series, how is that even a contest? To be honest, this comparison low balls Jay a lot, and boasts Wayne big time. Wayne isn’t touching Jay in sales, or music catalog wise; and that’s not opinion, that is FACT.

“..Men lie, women lie; Numbers don’t..”
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assholebynatureabout 1 month ago
How come all of a sudden it’s about album sales? Then when the artist doesn’t/can’t compare with the sales it all of a sudden " it’s not about sales"!
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shadeabout 1 month ago
Completely disregarding all the information I dropped that had nothing to do with sales…but you decided to jump to my last sentence and make it seem like I was discussing sales throughout my entire post, right?
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thearchitectabout 1 month ago
LOL useless blog if you ask me, Jay-Z always shits on wayne, if it’s not the entire song then it’s lyrically, and The Blueprint alone is betetr then all of Wayne’s material.
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djsupastar404about 1 month ago
lil wayne is alwayz a topic on here, lol they alwayz compaing him to somebody……..check out www.datswuzup.blogspot.com
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gnice1015about 1 month ago
PPL goin Say Wayne did amilli in a week SO WHAT!!!! IT was his worse carter album carter 1 classic carter 2 great C3 i didnt like it at all. 5 songs at best…
Blueprint 1 classic out weighs C1 Blueprint 2 disc 2 is better than C2 whole album but to me Jay couldve kept like 4 songs off disc 1 and put em on disk 2 that woukdve been another classic… blueprint 3 is disrespectful to comare to C3 thats a slap in a face to Jay so I wont go there Blueprint smashes the carters easy
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jdizzabout 1 month ago
I think carter 3 was better then bp3 but thats about it. N Fuckin lyrical your the biggest wayne hater on this site lol but always makes blogs talking about him. sad…..
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irock83about 1 month ago
nigga shut the fuck up…
you should get banned from this site for even saying that shit…
carter 3 better than bp3…
you have big grapefruits saying that shit…
thats like saying gwen stafani album is better than nas’ illmatic ahaha…

that goes to show you how brainwashed you are by mainstream bullshit played on the radio…you just like the other 3 million girls that brought this album…a fuckin pussy…
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irock83about 1 month ago
i just notice something about each of waynes and jay’s trilogy’s….

notice how carter 1 and bp1 was strictly for the streets…

and now when you look at carter 3 and bp3….

they both have that huge mainstream sound….

carter 3 was straight pop except for a couple of songs….

bp3 had a slight pop sound in it as well…if you really listen to it…

it’s like a huge 360…
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crasyjakabout 1 month ago
I’m not a big Jay-Z fan… I havent even listened BP3 (and dont plan to anytime soon) but Blueprints beat out the Carters. But Seriously Blueprint > Waynes career… Hop off JayZ’s dick seriously… JayZ groupies never cease to amaze me
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irock83about 1 month ago
fuck this news…did you guys hear about royce signing to shady….
real talk…
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chalieboyabout 1 month ago
no one gives a shit about royce besides like 7 people from this site lmfao
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laxalbumof08about 1 month ago
^Kill yourself.
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crasyjakabout 1 month ago
Plus almost ALL Jay-Z dickriders are passionate Weezy Haterz – NAS owns both of these niggaz LOL
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whoyoubeabout 1 month ago
…but this blog has nothing to do w nas. he is obv better than both, but to compare weezy and jay is offensive.
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king72331about 1 month ago
It’s not offensive. To compare Jay to a Camron, 50 Cent, or Gucci Mane would be offensive, but definitely someone the caliber of Wayne isn’t offensive.

Is it offensive to compare Lebron and Kobe??? Maybe to Kobe, but not to the majority of rational fans.
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whoyoubeabout 1 month ago
the way i see it is wayne is in the same bracket as 50. he’s just a lil better. camron is mad funny. i see him as more of a comedian these days.
as far as your lil analogy, wayne is more of a vince carter type. dude below had it right. wayne is the tony romo of rap.
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murderincabout 1 month ago
hard to pick one ..

it’s like Mohamad vs Jesus .. Letis try to make it right

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Blueprint 1 = Carter 3

Blue print 2 over Carter 2

Carter 1 over Blueprint 3
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The First Carter album is massively Overlooked i dunno Y ..

so is the carter 3 , people just criticizing " Lolipop " and " get " Got money " and bet they didn’t even lisen to the rest of the album .. those tracks are just made for some publicity stunt like every one else ..


PS : i wish they add the " prop- trash " option to the editor’s blogs too so i can just trash that faggot for this gayish : " Blueprint over Wayne’s entire career "
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tysonjonesabout 1 month ago
This is actually pretty easy to do.

Blueprint 1 better than Carter 1
Carter 2 better than Blueprint 2
Blueprint 3 = Carter 3

Overall though, the blueprint series is better and more consistent music.
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tysonjonesabout 1 month ago
Jayz wins this obviously. A better analysis would be blueprint 1 vs Carter 2. Im getting tired of the wayne fans always bringing up his record sales. Had the carter 3 been great, I could understand but it wasn’t “great” You wanna talk about record sales then talk the marshal mathers lp. 1.8 million sales. Great album.

“Wayne did a milli, 50 did a milli, Ye too, but what Em did was silly”
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psyberkayosabout 1 month ago
Amen.
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misterhbkabout 1 month ago
People talk about wayne sales because he was able to hit a millie in a time where thats damn near impossible in your first week. Em has sold records, no doubt and he’s a great artist but clearly he did not even come close to matching wayne with his last album did he? And I’m talking record sales specifically. The truth is the Carter 3 might really be the last time a hip hop artist does those numbers in a week
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panchodakiddabout 1 month ago
lil wayn def better yall niggas know that that all it bout deez dayz iz lil weezy baby
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psyberkayosabout 1 month ago
What kind of self-respecting man calls another man “lil weezy baby”? Leave that for the females trick. Take “lil wayn” if you want, but then again you’re probably just a child who wasn’t even listening to rap back when The Blueprint came out.
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smokeintellectabout 1 month ago
Jay- z blueprints
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sincere0612about 1 month ago
are u serious???…lil wayne in no shape or form should even mentioned with jayz name..ever…yes wayne is an great artist im not a fan of him but i give credit where credit is due but he will never match up to jay…never.
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wrongideaabout 1 month ago
Jay, with a big ass “.”
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ziggy20about 1 month ago
the order to me goes like this

blueprint 1 by far
carter/ carter 2
blueprint 2
and blueprint 3 and carter 3 were both some shit compared to the rest
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hov4everabout 1 month ago
so jay-z is rockin right now. wayne was the best at the time when C3 come out.. jay same thing for tha BP3.. and if your going to make a comparison, make a fucking comparison. this is a terribly written thred. you give nothing to back up anything, nothing = nothing poor job!!
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gblockerabout 1 month ago
Blueprint 1 is a top classic album in hip hop period ,Wayne can rap but he can’t make songs !!!!
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youngdramaabout 1 month ago
carter 1 better than or equal 2 BP1… BP2 and 3 cant even fuck with the carter 2 alone… end of discussion. get off hove ballsack. he’s never been as good as ppl make him out to be. fuck him and his monotone flow.
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whoyoubeabout 1 month ago
mr carter he killed wayne w his own flow. on hate he killed kayne w his own flow. next?
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youngdramaabout 1 month ago
wow you just glorified swagga jackin. but i forgot, hes a biter not a writer… thanx for clarifying that faggot.
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whoyoubeabout 1 month ago
its more like whatever you can do, i can do better, but i didnt expect you to see that.
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wrongideaabout 1 month ago
Waynes whole style of rapping came from Jay, everything from the not writing it down to the way he carries his words, fuck outta here nigga
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forevabeastinabout 1 month ago
^ ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS WRONGIDEA?

lil wayne and jay sound nothing alike asswhole
lil wayne actually has multiple flows jay has .5 honestly
Jay stole biggies flow so jay a biter

Tha Carter 2 killed the ENTIRE blueprint series. yea trash me i have songs all over from all three blueprints but that shit is over rated honestly. Carter 2 lil wayne MASTERED rap, every line was sick. bp3 sucks bp2 sucks more balls then bp2,
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wrongideaabout 1 month ago
You have your opinion and I have mine. Wayne by far, is not as intellectual or half as intellegent as Hov. I respect your opinion on liking Wayne more but to deny Where his style came from is a falisy if you think otherwise. And for you to discredit the man that Wayne tries to imitate is and injustice and proof of your flawed reasoning. You always seem to be on the other end of my arguements but no matter how much you wanna be a spokesman for Wayne, we all know the truth…and the truth is he will never be and cannot possibly be compared to Hov.
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scog81about 1 month ago
You shouldn’t compare wayne albums with Jay at this time or at all for that matter. Jay 1st BLUEPRINT is killing any WAYNE ALBUMS so this doesn’t make sense at all. You wanna compare albums with the blueprint? Try LIFE AFTER DEATH,CHRONIC 2001,AQUEMNI,STILLMATIC,ETC. NOT THOSE CARTERS BULLSHIT. I actually liked Carter 2 but it aint even fucking with the BP2 which might be HOV worst album to date.
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ziggy20about 1 month ago
are u dumb?
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caliber20about 1 month ago
first of there is no way in hell you can compare the carter series to the bluprint series. BLUEPRINT WINS HANDS DOWN. secondly, lil wayne is way overrated. there are very few respectable mc’s in the game so he just looks better next to them. its like theres a group of girls and theyre all 2 out of 10 and then a 5 walks in the room. that 5 looks blazin, but then an 8 walks in and that 5 looks like shit. waynes the 5 compeared to all of these wack niggas in the game right now.

getting away from the article, im tired of people using sales as a way to rpove someone is better. yea wayne sold 1.5 million in a week, ok. eminem has the solo aritist record with 1.78 million in a week with marshall mathers. then he sold 1.1 with eminem show, then 700,000 in 4 days wit encore. wayne cant comepare to that. on top of that, the carter 3 stalled at 3 million whish is great, but the marshall mathers lp went diamond (10 million). so dont use that mil in a week shit to justify the carter three as a classic album please. mc hammer sold more records than tupac when they were out at the same time, your gonna tell mc hammer is an all time great.

anyways goin back (sorry, but stupidity pisses me off), none of the carters can compare to the blueprints. there was no real point to this article. anyone who says the carter is better is either under 16 years old, retarded, or a combination.
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weezyfkobeabout 1 month ago
This is dumb first of all carter 2 is not that far from blueprint 2 lyrically im sure most of u niggaz never even listined to it all the way through being weezy haters second of all tha carter 3 was sumthing wayne had to just put togther really quick cuz all his songs got leaked 4 months before releases and more importantly WEEZY MAKES MIXTAPES DROUGHT 3, DEDICATION 2 > better than anything jayz ever did
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whoyoubeabout 1 month ago
last name weezy, first name stan. you sound stupid, youngin. go try on some skinny jeans.
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ziggy20about 1 month ago
people keep talkin about wayne cuz hes overrated. so was hov. he was the wayne of their time so i dont wanna hear that. nas the best alive anyway
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lutherdagreatabout 1 month ago
“pmoney3”, classic albums arent based off record sales you b.a.n, cause if that was the case then many albums we call classics wouldn’t even be considered classic. kids and i emphasize the kids part, kids like you need to grow up, man up, and listen to music. like what the hell is wrong with you man? be real.

and “youngdrama” for you to say what you said just proved whats wrong with the game today, how old are you? do you even know what a classic is? do you know what music is? or do you just jump on whats hot like everyone else these days. for you to claim that the carter 1 is better than or equal to bp1 is prbly the most unintelligent thing i have ever heard, and i feel that defsounds should delete your account for being a fool, and i also feel that you should be disowned from anything hip hop your involved in and start listening to another genre cause you have not only disgraced yourself, but your crew, and your family. real talk. none of the carters will ever be in the same catergory as

blueprint
illmatic
ready to die
the chronic
only built for cuban linx
me against the world
etc, etc.

and if you believe that it is, then again you should be addressed. but hey, i should apologize to you and the other lil’boy i addressed, why? because you are probably between the ages of 15-20 and are in need of help… so heres some advice:

get the albums i mentioned, and i hope theres other people like me out there that will name some classic for you bitches to pick up. after you buy them/ download them, or whatever you do, i want you two and the rest of you people who think like them to apologize to the people of defsounds and the mass public.
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justblaze08about 1 month ago
yeah blueprint 2 had like 25 songs altogether blueprint 1 is one of the best albums made jayz made that album in 2 days really he did and wayne’s carter 3 took like 5 delayed dates for people to be hype off it
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pooslinkyabout 1 month ago
i’m going to have to look at both sides, unlike most of you…

both artists have had an impact on the music industry in their careers, Hov, considered one of the greatest rappers of all time has had legendary albums, like he says in “reminder”… “men lie, women lie, numbers don’t”… taking that into consideration jay-z’s albums sold… and when i say sold i’m talking about pushing 1,000,000+ sales in total; any rappers life long dream. to go platinum. Wayne on the other hand has his “numbers” to prove that he’s worth going down in history as well… as much as you Wayne haters like to admit it… 1,500,000 albums in ONE WEEK is unbelievable. and if you’ve ever seen Lil Wayne: Behind the Music or whatever the fuck it’s called you’d know that Jay-Z has respect for Wayne… on that note Jay knows Wayne is a legend in the making, he has his accomplishments.

overall, the two aren’t comparable… the are from different years, Jay was in his prime by the time the Blueprint series dropped. He had his success with Reasonable Doubt. Wayne on the other hand was JUST on his way when Tha Carter dropped, his first album since Tha Block is Hot to go platinum (as i recall Tha Block is Hot DID go platinum, i could be completely wrong though) and it was considered the START of a NEW career (may i remind you that Wayne had thrown away all his lyrics to start Tha Carter and did a 10,000 bar session to do so)… you just can’t compare the two.
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andrei187about 1 month ago
blueprint>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>over any album wayne has produced and will produce in the future (lol i know i’m exaggerating)
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youngvirtueabout 1 month ago
both artist are way ova hyped. Yes they are good artists but if u really put them in a rap battle against against street freestyle artist they would get slaughtered. Nd there is no such thing as a best rapper ever. A best rapper alive can rap battle, freestyle, nd make songs that are all better than every other rap artist to exist. BAK 2 TOPIC : Lyrically, wayne nd jay are above average but nuthin extra-ordinary.
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dedication3about 1 month ago
hmmm. The Blueprint Series is better than the Carter series but C3 was better in my opinion. I still listen to all those songs on a regular basis. Shoot Me Down was sick… 3 Peat was ill… Tie My Hands was dope… Phone Home was crazy… and Playing With Fire was nasty. It sold 1.5 and it leaked 10 days before it came out. He was nominated for 8 Grammies because of C3. But BP2 & 1 were both better than c1 and c2.
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younggippyabout 1 month ago
Record sales reflect quality…And C3 is a masterpiece as it out did camel carter…My album doing double platinum 1st day numbers niggas real talk!
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whoyoubeabout 1 month ago
record sales reflect marketing, dick.
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screamloxabout 1 month ago
dude wrote no current rapper has an album that will match the blueprint, are you fucking kidding me???? what a whack statement when blueprint isnt even hotter than reasonable doubt……and Nas easily has better albums prob why he got scratched on BP3
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whoyoubeabout 1 month ago
i actually agree w you on that. haa.
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screamloxabout 1 month ago
oh and lets not forget about 90% of the hip hop community says jay got destroyed by emienem on renegade, so this cant be his best cd…all yall hating on wayne are using Jay murdered him on Mr Carter so why dont those arguements work both ways? Dick riders and even worse the bloggers ride him that hard on every jayz page its lame as fuck
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wrongideaabout 1 month ago
Not only did he murder him on it but Wayne spit an old Jay verse(Lucky me, Vol.1) on Mr. Carter at the end. U like the Lox right?, so to say that Gunit shitted on the Lox would be an appropriate statement based on you’re comment.smh Which we ALL know isn’t true.
Dblock>>>>>Gunit just like Jay>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wayne, album-wise, content-wise,… overall. It doesn’t take a genius to know that.
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wrongideaabout 1 month ago
And nobody was even talking about Nas.
but since you wann bring him up…..

The only reason anyone even says someone else gets “murdered” on a track with another artist is because of him. Before that, niggas would just say they liked one niggas verse more or someone was okay but the other dude killed it. Nas was just talking shit to get at Jay.Ether is the best diss song ever, but at least Jay had some real facts to back up his statements in his disses.
That Em shit is overrated. This nigga Already had that song out with Royce on it but Jay bought it, put it on his album and they removed Royce.End of story. Jay could’ve came harder on it but he still did good. So what, everytime 2 niggas get on a track niggas are gonna be like" oh, so and so got murdered"? that shit is dumb.

AND
If you think niggas dickride Jay, there are DEFINITELY more Eminem dickriders.
Whose the only rapper than can get away with talking bout killing his own mom, his girlfriend. saying all kinds of shit about Satanism and borderline gay and just plain weird shit without backlash from fans?! The whiteboy, that’s who. You motherfuckers wouldn’t accept that shit from any other rapper to date. But motherfuckers are quick to defend his actions any chance they get, no matter how heinous.smh
Stans as called by the creator of the term. No wonder he has so many of them.smfh

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assholebynatureabout 1 month ago
Wayne spit that verse(last verse Mr. Carter) out of respect he expected people to know it was Jay’s. Jay was on the song so it makes a lot of sense.
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screamloxabout 1 month ago
@wrong idea…i never said the carters were hotter than the blueprints, out of them all i like carter II the best and i do not care for BP3 or Carter III period they’re both wack and very overrated w/ the two artists at their worst…
-i brought up a fact about how the ppl were evaluating this “argument” and how its one sided in jays favor…ex: ppl typing carter III sucks b/c jay “murdered” wayne on Mr Carter, well why doesnt blueprint suck when jay got “murdered” by eminem on renegade if ur applying the same logic? just raising the point ppl be fucking wack on defsounds contradicting themselves, not making an actual statement or picking a side….
-What did i type that would allow you to say or interpret Gunit beat the LOX, thats the part im confused about or your confused about b/c we all know that didnt/couldnt and will never happen….And ya co-sign theres just as many Eminem stans as Jay stans but this page is about Jay so, i mean it seems ppl on defsounds only know shit about like Jay, Eminem, Wayne, Kanye, 50 and ride them regardless to the grave and know nothing of any other great street niggas, why dont any of you fools know shit about Nas LOX, AZ, Beanie Sigel, Big L, Bone Thugs, The Game, Cassidy, old CNN, Masta Ace, Cormega, DMX, Gangstarr, Ghostface, Raekwon, Ludacris, old Mobb Deep, Nate Dogg, Snoop, Warren G, Scarface, old Outkast, Rakim….I mean wtf this site gets worse by the day do your homework uneducated hip hop stans !!!
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wrongideaabout 1 month ago
“…all yall hating on wayne are using Jay murdered him on Mr Carter so why dont those arguements work both ways?”

I said the Gunit, Lox thing to explain a point based on this arguement. I interpreted it as " Because a group or person is bigger by name and status that when they get in a battle/song with a another artist that they win by default."based on that statement, but being sarcastic.(this is NOT a cosign for Wayne.)
I Immediately said that the Lox was better and there was no way Gunit could compare.(read it again)
And yeah, you’re definitely right about this site and the lack of knowledge of music. But what you must understand is that most of the people on here are “rap” fans and not “hiphop” fans. there is a difference. It’s all about content, but thats for a different dicussion.
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whodat118about 1 month ago
wrong idea that nigga agreed completely… on the Em shit, i wish one day he gets torn up…
but on the Carter vs. Blueprints is tougher to decide what to think


Carter 1 was gud (7.3)
Carter 2 was better (8)
Carter 3 was pretty gud i aint gonna lie yall downgrade this album too much i thought 3 was better than 1 but 2 was better than all (7.7)



Now Jay-z blueprint Album is the shit dog i fuckin (8.7)
the 2nd one i didn’t like that much coming from Jay (7.3)
Blueprint 3 is better than the 2nd one but not the first (7.5)

yea so compare Jays best to Waynes best

The best of each: Carter 2 vs Blueprint….Jay won

2nd best of each: Carter 3 vs. Blueprint 3…..Wayne Wayne Wayne immma say it 1000 times

Carter 1 vs. Blueprint 2 a tie these both were the worst outta the 3

I think both of these series is sooooo close but Jay get it in the end becasue Jay just blows him outta of the fuckin water with the BP1 n thats the Truth, we can’t say Wayne overrall the worst than Jay in the end becuz Wayne still has many mo years on his Belt so who kno Wayne might come out with a album better than Reasonable doubt…..
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whodat118about 1 month ago
fuck that i change Blueprint 1 on a 9 in fact
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screamloxabout 1 month ago
@ wrongidea, thanks for clearing that up and ya it makes sense when u look at it that way didnt know thats how you deciphered the comment, and i did mean it that way in a sense so good analogy, and ya re-wroet the LOX coodnt be beat b/c they my boys and jus had to rep them lol, otherwise i wodda spazzed out if u sed they cod have lol, nice back and forth from a “hip hop” head and ya ur right about difference b/w rap fans and hip hop fans…..sucks tho doesnt it!
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wrongideaabout 1 month ago
@ scream lox

Agreed.

@ whodat118

I feel you almost completely,but I feel like BP3 was better than C3.
For these simple facts:
1.) the song “Misunderstood” was completely jacked off of Common’s cd “Finding Forever” with a very slight change in the beat. Btw Common ripped that shit and it sounded way better than Wayne’s.
2.) Almost all the beats off Waynes Cd were jacked and he has been sued repeatedly for them by the different people who made them.
3.)Certain songs that you were hoping that he would Finally provide some substance on, he didn’t. (like Shoot me down and Tie my Hands.)Which is a huge dissapointment and an injustice to the song that he couldn’t take the time out to make some “real” shit for it. At this point in his career, I expect growth and not just guns and ddrug talk. Show you have more to offer!(like on “Amen”)
4.)This honestly could have passed as a mixtape. and not even one of his good ones like The Prefix,The Sufix, Can’t Feel my Face, Waynes World series,Dedication 2, Drought 3.I think he’s just too high and too fucked up to actually concentrate on making quality music anymore.
5.)If you’re gonna jump on a track with the man you claim that you are better than, then you need to show and prove.As much shit as Wayne has said, he should have came EXTRA hard on that track to remove all doubt. But he couldn’t. I can’t front like there wasn’t a point where he was giving Hov a run for his money but now……Not at all. Wayne has always been about the right now, and that’s why he doesn’t possess the ability to have longevity. Cuz he’s not getting beter and maturing.
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scrillaabout 1 month ago
bp 1 was the shit, bp 2 it really didnt live up to the hype, bp 3 well i think that album excited everyone again. i say lil waynes whole collection got bodied by all bp albums
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guttaqueabout 1 month ago
People never seem to amaze me with their lack of knowledge of trying to compare two different entities of music. Lyrically, Wayne smashing Jay-Z on the Carter 2 and Carter 3. Probably why Jay waits to drop cd after cd bout 3 years in between. If I’m not mistaking, doesn’t Jay have another cd in between his blueprint series when he returned back to rap. My point is that shit was so weak that people, even gay z stans, refuse to talk about it. Wasn’t Blueprint the cd when jay stole alot of lyrics from other rappers and used them for his own. do the research, i speak facts. so are we actually comparing other artists lyrics to wayne’s lyrics. LMMFAO at the stans that certain rappers have. I don’t care for Lil Wayne as well but the numbers don’t lie. Look at the album sales and total income for each series. Yall love Jay so damn much, yall should’ve bought 10 copies of his cd and boost his album sales. The rap game is about money and Young Money reigns over Roc Nation. And I know many gon get on here and say but lyrically this dude did dis and he did dat. Lyrically really both of these dudes ain’t too hot. Give me Nas, Andre 3000, Common, Bun B, Game, Bobby Creekwater, Killer Mike, and Jadakiss anyday
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rscrbcabout 1 month ago
kill yourself.
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screamloxabout 1 month ago
greeat post, thankfully they’re some real hip hop heads still around on defsounds
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duhnigha813about 1 month ago
wow this shit totally one sided
CARTER 2 was fire tho


o yea

carter 3 sessions > c3
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johntucker180about 1 month ago
the 1st blueprint is almost un touchable by most hip hop albums and blue print 2 is better thna all carters, it was only weak because it was a double disk n had some weak material but majority unforgettable songs.. bonnie n clyde that song was to crazy! now i do somewhat believe carter is better than blueprint 3 and im not a wayne fan! its just bcuz the material was more “hip hop” and weezy was hungry, i just felt on blueprint 3 jay-z was tryna be “young” and shyed away from that grown man ish i grew up admiring.. but we know gillie wrote most of the carter 2 so entirely jay-z’s albums cant be comapred to waynes, wayne will never win there
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ziggy20about 1 month ago
if gillie wrote carter 2…why the hell isnt gillie makin hot albums and gettin money? i refuse to believe that gillie was waynes ghostwriter at least at that time of his career
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dedication3about 1 month ago
The quality of lyrics from Wayne has not changed or gotten worse since Carter 2… He still says the same kinds of things… the wordplay is the same. You could argue the quality of song has dropped off with the added autotune and the rock… but not the quality of lyrics. I don’t know. I just can’t believe Gillie ghostwrote for Wayne either. There’s just nothing out there to make me believe that.
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emgee420about 1 month ago
because gillie cant afford beats
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forevabeastinabout 1 month ago
how did gillie write c2 when GILLIE HIMSELF claimed C2 was all wayne and he only wrote C1? Get your facts str8 before you hate fagget
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johntucker180about 1 month ago
if i ever see u ima fuck u up lol u stay suckin me
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rellabout 1 month ago
shit ima go wit weezys carter series….tha carter 1 did good an that was his 1st solo album witout tha hot boys so he had sumthing 2 prove wit that album…tha carter 2 is a fuckin CLASSIC..i dont think no otha album can fuck wit tha shit…wayne not gonna b able 2 top that shit…now tha carter 3 was ok..it woulda been better if his album wont leaked so many times an he had 2 rush @ tha last minute but 2 me it still was a sweet album..jay z i neva ben a fan of..he had sum ok jants but i neva could get n2 his lyrics..but i think weezy is past hovs level(n my opinion)…but 2 me neitha 1 of em could fuck my nigga B.G. on that real shi real talk….TOO HOOD 2 BE HOLLYWOOD drops Nov.24th…make sure u get it cuz tha #1 original hot boy is back!!!!
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shwabsterabout 1 month ago
“Blueprint over Wayne’s entire career” hell yeah lol
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emgee420about 1 month ago
jayz > lil wayne
period
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dboi07about 1 month ago
Defsounds staff tripp out sum times! If you kno jaz-z iz ya fav rapper why would u cmpare him to sum 1 you dnt like? Kinda selfish… Post stuff we the fans wanna read and wanna compare not stuff like

Blueprint over Wayne’s entire career

Blueprint II over The Carter II

Blueprint III over The Carter III
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dboi07about 1 month ago
… Look like sumn I would post!
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avonbarkesdaleabout 1 month ago
Blueprint over Wayne’s entire career……………. why bother to even make this comparison? its ridiculous, lil wayne isnt in the same league, fuck that…. hes not on the same planet as jay z is.
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rscrbcabout 1 month ago
I don’t understand the point of the blog if you made the whole BP series better than the Carter series.
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lyricalthoughtabout 1 month ago
you should probably read the third paragraph in this blog, it answers your question
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misterhbkabout 1 month ago
This is a stupid ass blog, and a dumb ass comparison.

First things first…Can we STOP comparing EVERY rapper to Lil Wayne??? PLEASE!

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a big Wayne fan, but NO he is not the BEST rapper alive. We get it already, drop that topic.

Second, I feel like everytime someone compares their favorite rapper to Wayne it’s just their way of of saying…“SEE I TOLD YOU (Insert Rapper Name Here) IS BETTER THAN WAYNE.” Whether you think Wayne is good or not is your own opinion, but by spreading these comparison topics all over the place it’s gonna make Wayne fans like him any less? The answer is simply no. Wayne fans are gonna be Wayne fans until they stop liking his music.

The comparison of Wayne and Jay Z is like apples and Oranges. YEs they are both fruits (no homo. that made me laugh a little bit) but that don’t mean they are the same at all. Jay is a legend…and and will go down in history as one of the best to do it. He has classic albums, and could retire anytime and not worry bout shit. (which he should do now cuz he’s about to Brett Farve himself BP3 was mediocre)

Wayne on the other hand still has work to do and he knows it. Everyone knows it. Jay said it best when he said Wayne is the Lebron of hip hop. Is Lebron a legend right now? Not by any means. He has no championships, and continues to come up short every season, BUT he continues to get better with each passing season, and how can we say that’s not wayne? the dude works harder than any other artist, and HE HAS A TRACK WITH MADONNA! Everyone here may not give a shit about Madonna but thats HUGE for any rapper. Wayne is getting better and one day he will drop that classic album we’ve all been waiting for.

But right now Wayne is NOT on Jay’s level. He’ll be there one day, I’m sure of it, but until then drop teh damn comparisons. Fuck. It’s getting old…No, it’s been old.
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alwaysstrappedabout 1 month ago
True; I doubt jay z will come out with another album and wayne is still in his prime how we know that The carter 4 won’t be a classic
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thugzboyabout 1 month ago
the blueprint > tha carter

tha carter 2 > the blueprint 2

the blueprint 3 > tha carter 3

winner = jay-z
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phillyeagleabout 1 month ago
for all those that think carter 2 was better than blueprint 2. what album can u listen to more than once without getting bored? blueprint 2!!!
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forevabeastinabout 1 month ago
carter 2 had replay value out the ass! bp2 is the WORSE album jay ever made
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relapse09about 1 month ago
blueprint 2 is wack phillyeagle
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fuckouthereabout 1 month ago
wen your high wayne is a legend period!!! wen im sparking a blunt i turn to wayne. carter 3 was dope and in my eyes a superior album. damn neer everysong was a concept. from songs like dr carter 2 let the beat build 2 shoot me down etc. and millie made rappers and even r&b singers want to rap on that bitch!!! shit it made me even want to spit on that bitch and i dont even rap. but yes blueprint3 is good and blueprint is indeed a classic but shit that aint even his best album 4real. reasonable doubt was his best cd. shit prob the best hiphop cd ever. im not sayin jay is wack cuz hes my favorite mc and def. the best rapper alive no doubt. but all im sayin is people on this website actin like wayne didnt come in this rap game and ate everybodys single like it was his. i think wayne had a very big inpact in the rap game period.
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forevabeastinabout 1 month ago
amen propped
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alwaysstrappedabout 1 month ago
Jay z fan wrote this and I bet they hate wayne shouldn’t compare this albums or artist the fact is that wayne is hiphop right now everything he touches is a hit from hot boys,albums,features,mixtapes,young money jay ain’t fucking with that and one day wayne is going to be past his prime and is going to be older like jay and maybe us that’s young right now are going to be hating on the next artist that’s hot like old heads hate on wayne so just listen to the album/artist you like and stop stressing over the one you dnt like
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weezysucksabout 1 month ago
Who is this Little Wayne guy you talk about?

LOL

please…Wayne’s intelligence level is 1/3 of HOV’s when it comes to making quality music and staying TRUE to the Hip-Hop Culture.

This blog = Fail
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leftyduvallabout 1 month ago
it’s a generational difference. i’m from the 25+ crowd so of course i’m rollin with the Blueprint series! i remember i would play the first installment front to back relentlesly on trips between cities. part 2 was a GREAT album! i dunno why ppl didn’t recieve it too well. was it all the cameos? i dunno, but the only thing i didn’t like about the Gift and the Curse was that i needed to get a multi-disk changer so i could play it all the way thru without risking an accident changing disks! part 3 needs to grow on those who aren’t used to the format Jay used. it plays like a REAL album

Carter 2 was ill. I’d ride n’ smoke to that disk almost everyday goin to work. the first Carter was jus annoying to say the least. i was hearing “Go DJ” literally everywhere i went and it jus never caught on. and those sappy “I Miss My Nigga” type songs was enough to kill R.I.P. joints for me for good. Carter 3, i didn’t even bother. there were some tracks, but not nearly enough to keep me a fan.

but on some real dope: Wayne n Drake can beat each otha off with all those mixtapes! those niggas are the Dallas Cowboys of hip-hip! neither one of ’em have done anything meaningful for the game and yet they have enough stans to fill a halfway house the size of Manhattan! which one of ’em is Romo? lmao

HOV!!!!!!
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ziggy20about 1 month ago
shut up
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whoyoubeabout 1 month ago
lol ima cowboy fan but weezy is def a romo. like tony dorsett said, “I don’t know why on God’s earth Tony Romo has been anointed a superstar in the National Football League.”
i mean carter 2 is good. its aight. dont see where all the hype for this guy comes from. half of ya have to be blazed to enjoy this guy. weezy should be compared to niggas like juelz, fab, etc. dont compare him to the big dawgs. its not fair to him.
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whodat118about 1 month ago
haha i love Tony Dorsett i’m a Giant Fan but anywayz, Wayne is a really really good rapper but comparing Blueprint to anybody who really its that great of a level is soo funny to me
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leftyduvallabout 1 month ago
yeah!! GO GIANTS!!!
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duhnigha813about 1 month ago
cowboys fuckin garbo


lmao @ kindom come > wayne
ya right


c3 sessions > kindome come too!!!
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whoyoubeabout 1 month ago
your a bucs fan. remember week 1?
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whodat118about 1 month ago
hahaha
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nateeseabout 1 month ago
carter 2 over bp2 and 3…..carter somewhere before bp2 carter 3 in dead last….blueprint one above them all…holla
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dakush421nxtdayabout 1 month ago
i honestly never really listened to carter 1 all way through but it aint fuckin with 1st blueprint
carter 2 was mad good i heard all of it bp2 was underratted i like carter 2 more\
and bp3 is way better then carter 3…i dont listen to carter 3 no ore idk anyone who really does but i gurantee ill be listenin to bp3 for a while
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yungcess15about 1 month ago
Okay i am a big wayne fan but that dosnt make me have a biest opnion. I wasnt old enough to real listen to the blueprint i think i was in 5th when it came but i have gone back and listen to it. The shit is dope it beats the carter by a margen amount. Both blueprint2 and carter2 where nice cds but i think carter 2 beat blueprnt 2 i didnt like that 2disc shit on bp2 some songs where good some weren’t. C2 I can honestly say i like every song on it wayne really step his shit up on that one. Carter 3 was great cd and so is Blueprint 3. I still bumpe C3 and i bump bp3, but bp3 is alot better than C3
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mainesourceabout 1 month ago
Come Check us out at www.mainesourceofficial.com and lets us know what you think about the music and leave us some comments. more to come soon
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jaffarabout 1 month ago
no competition whatsoever… Lil wayne’s career is not 1/4th of Jigga’s.
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justakillaabout 1 month ago
jay z=homo
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lilnevanabout 1 month ago
i love all of lil waynes albums carter 3 is classic the fly in fly outs in carter 2 timeless carter 1 he still had that young sound but still great. love ta jay too but wayne takes this one
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blactrs78about 1 month ago
this weezy all the way…jay cool and i know yall love him but carter 1 and 2 was so ill…blueprint 1 was the best out of those 3. BP 2and 3 were whateva
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leftyduvallabout 1 month ago
Young Money Ent. = Dallas Cowboys

HOV!!
SLAUGHTER!!
WUUUUUUUU!!
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ayyyweezyfbabyabout 1 month ago
imma wayne fanatic and i agree wit pvtcasper i love da carter 3 bt i thank could hAVE WENT HARDER CUZ HE B KILLEN DA MIXTAPES
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chitown773about 1 month ago
Ok I can’t sit back and listen 2 u Lil Wayne jockstraps continue 2 underappreciate the greatness of Hov. First of The Bluueprint 1 wis Hov’s best album hands down, I’m not gonna waste my time justifying that.THE bP2 was overall a great album. ONE OF hov’s hardest verses ever came off of that album on “The Watcher” with Dre and Rakim. Enough said. Now when it comes 2 BP3…if u don’t like that album then u really r just admitting that u don’t like real thorough hip hop. The whole concept behind that album was brilliant. How can u not appreciate a rapper who constantly showss his growth in his music. How can u people say BP3 wasn’t classic when Hov didn’t spit one false statement on that album. Real Talk! Everything Hov said can easily be verified to be accurate. Wayne is a great rapper don’t get me wrong, but sometimes he lives in fantasy land on his verses. U can’t say Hov isn’t better because he tells people how 2 really ball out. Everybody loves 2 hear other rappers talk about materialistic shit, but Hov takes it to another level when he does rap about that shit. He talks about being responsible and not reckless with yo money. One of the realest lines he ever spit came off of Kingdom Come which also was a great album. " I don’t got the bright watch I got the right watch, I don’t buy out the bar I bought the night spot, I got the right stock..I got stock brokers thats moving it like white tops I know u like fuck! Thats real rap. All rappers including Wayne always rap about what they have in every song, and reality is most r lying they asss off. Appreciate the greatness of Hov on the entire hiip hop generation. He’s made it possible for rappers to have their own labels. And another thing no one should ever use his age in any argument against him cause since when did it become bad to be blessed to be able to see 39 years of age? It’s time for this entire generation to grow up and look up to People like Shawn Carter and appreciate the greatness in his music. when Wayne can make an entire album and base it all on true facts and not fiction then it’ll be fair to compare these two. Until the and Forever Jay-Z will always be the Mike Jordan of recording!
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shizzellabout 1 month ago
any one who says lil wayne over hov doesnt know shit about real hip hop weezy is very very very very overated but he is hard working he fluds the radio with music so all you hear is him but he is not even close to hov and like screamlox said nas kills both these niggas holla
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whodat118about 1 month ago
agreed
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tonystarkbeatsabout 1 month ago
Blueprint is without a doubt the Best album since 2000
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junetheman88about 1 month ago
I’ loved the Blueprint2
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fuckouthereabout 1 month ago
man wayne’s dat dude fuck watchu heard!!
this dude said some shit like" you niggas soft as a can a tuna you fuckin wit a periana the ballin is no illusion paper tall as a tower im paid hoe i can change your life all in a hour…i promised my self i would see the cityskyline from my shower" dude is that not some real shit!! or on the song “yes” ft pharrel witch is a banger if you never heard it he said some shit like" you can check my watch i been rich a long time ago im so tired of ballin man i sleep all night bed sheets so nice bed bugs dont bite" haha waynes just a clown!! alrigght how bout another ok" future billiaire yeah i gotta be on list gotta runway in my pants cuz all the models be on my dick..young money,young money swallow that shit bitch santa clause killer wit a holiday shit list" haha waynes that fuckin dude!!! keep in mind these are recent songs so people sayin he dont go hard right now you a damn lie haha peace!


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leftyduvallabout 1 month ago
(yawns) mere punchlines…boring ones at that. when the lil nigga grows up and gets on some down to earth shit (and not anotha “I Miss My Nigga” type o song) let me know. that clown’s gettin paid off junior HS flows. not impressive in the eyes of veteran MC’s

“We give ‘em props but that’s where it stops IT’S THE ROC!”

who spit that one son?
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ohniggaucrazyabout 1 month ago
man who make up dumb ass topics like these?

starting off with lil waynes career

1.the block is hot: platinum
2.lights out: gold
3.500 degreez: gold
4.the carter: gold
5.the carter 2: platinum
6.the carter 3: platinum 5X

jay-z career

1.reasonable doubt: platinum
2.in my lifetime vol 1: platinum
2.vol 2…hard knock life: platinum 5X
3.vol 3…life and times of s. carter: platinum 3X
4.the dynasty: platinum: platinum 2X
5.blueprint: platinum 2X
6.blueprint 2: platinum 3X
7.black album: platinum 3X
8.kingdom come: platinum
9.TBA
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whodat118about 1 month ago
yea jay is overralll the best but Wayne still got years to go on hos belt, fuck how the hell did the block is hot go platinum???
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whodat118about 1 month ago
and also on Jay-z thing its hard to deicde which is his best album i say Black Album others say, Blueprint others say Resonable Doubt, some say vol2 Hard knock life, i mean he is so versatile on each and every record makes each one number, n on top of that sells millions on each, every song on a jay album but 2 or 3 is fire, but sorry that Kingdom Come is garbage, i cant believe he sold platinum
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ohniggaucrazyabout 1 month ago
my bad jay-z #9 should of been blueprint 3 which is TBA
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leftyduvallabout 1 month ago
(yawns)

I’m sittin here tryin to figure out how a Lil Wayne (Romo) fan can type endless dick-ridin comments sayin how great this bum is without any noteable achievements.

did “Romo” sell out the Garden in a day? no

did he set any REAL trends? no, unless u count carryin a styrofoam(?) cup in every video

mixtapes? anybody can blaze a mixtape these days, that’s nothin but a cheap buzz. how many tapes has Jay put out since 2000? nooo, not those corny blend tapes that’s full of old rhymes over different beats. Jay don’t need tapes cuz he saves all his new material for NEW ALBUMS…well, most of it. I don’t remember the last time Hov wasted new rhymes on a solo mixtape.

Jay knows how to cut an album, Romo wastes exclusive material on mixtapes and cons his fans into buyin an album stuffed with shit that shoulda been on the tapes. smh one of the oldest tricks in the book.

I stand by my opinion: C2 was Romo’s ONLY great album

all 3 BP’s>>>YME’s whole catalogue

wait…they have a catalogue right? not just mixtapes I mean
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mrpresidentabout 1 month ago
I think That the Blueprints were Better than the Carters by far.
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chroniccloudz08about 1 month ago
i agree w it all but damn i thought c2 crushed bp2
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leftyduvallabout 1 month ago
and that’s based on…
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boi1da27about 1 month ago
Bp1 > C1
Bp2 < C2
Bp3 < C3

I feel like everyone on here has there own opinion and will make thier comments with predetermined bias. I think Bp3 was a HUGE disappointment. Dont get me wrong there are good song on it, So Ambitious, Thank You, Run This Town, and Empire State of Mind, but almost every song on C3 were good. The only song that i think flopped was Playing with Fire. What the fuck was Jayz thinking with Forever Young? It was the worst song I’ve heard in a long time. Jayz is falling off. NO disrespect becausei like him alot. But he’s not as good as he was. Wayne is only getting better. He is lyrically better than Jayz. His punchlines and metaphors are unmatched. His mixtapes are insane and he comes out with music constantly. I dont know why people are getting on wayne for using autotune. No one said shit until Jayz said it was getting old. Meanwhile jayz uses it himself. Jayz is also a punk. EVERYONE bust shots at him without a response. Some of you may say that “he’s too old for beef.” But he knows that if he were to respond to anything anyone said (Game, 50, Wayne) he would lose his career.

To make everything simple. Wayne IS better. Jayz WAS better.
Prebirth and Tha Carter IV are gonna be amazing.
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leftyduvallabout 1 month ago
Jay’s a business man 1st, an MC 2nd. he’s not gonna get into anything that’s not gonna help his career. somehow ppl flip that logic. like Game, 50, or Tony Romo (Wayne)could REALLY end Hov’s career! C’MON MAN! lol wise up and get over that gangsta image bullshit!
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weezysodabout 1 month ago
ONE THING I HATE HATTERS :<
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weezysodabout 1 month ago
Ok if you was not following wayne carrer when he was younger then you is dead out sleep.

First off Wayne put out 2 or 3 hot albums before the carter series even existed. so saying Jay Z > Wayne is idotic and dump. Now look at it Wayne puts out so much music that its pissing other fans off. just get off your favrite rapper dick and take in the knowlede. Jay Z have not put out a mixtape that i remeber?? and shit i dont remeber one. Now i remeber most of wayne mixtapes. Ex. Suffix & Prefixx but realize that wayne gots Jay because after all these songs he still got MATERIAL and quality martieral . i bet after BP3 jay gone take off another 3 yrs just to write a album. im just tellin it how it is.
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lyricalthoughtabout 1 month ago
you do realize that Jay has put out an album almost every year that he has been active right?
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leftyduvallabout 1 month ago
son…PLEASE!!! who gives a shit about a $5 mixtape??? JAY HAS 11 CONSECUTIVE #1 SELLING MAINSTREAM ALBUMS DATING ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1996!!!!!!!! mixtapes are jus a cheap way to get fans on board and when the album drops, u barely see the difference (in this generation)! shit, he’s got so many tapes out u wonder if he cares about his fans enough to put in the REAL work necessary to cut a decent album! and 9 times outta 10 any hip-hop fashion trend since the turn of the millenium can be credited to Hov, and u were probly rockin whatever he was rockin.

Jay’s efforts are ground breaking. in AND outta the studio. they’re edged in stone son! everything Wayne’s ever done was done outta Jay’s influence. remember that wack ass “Balla Blockin” movie Cash Money did? what was Wayne’s character’s name? Ice Berg Shorty. what was Hov’s nickname back around that time? ICE BERG SLIM! do ya homework young nigga!

THAT’S how it is!
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whoyoubeabout 1 month ago
wasnt it wayne who took 3 yrs off btwn the carter 2 and 3. oh he dropped mad mixtapes blah blah. yea, wayne is perfect for mixtapes bc he had A.D.D and cant stay focused on any song. like i said, wayne is good, but he is not on jays level.
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whodat118about 1 month ago
Carters vs. Blueprints is tougher to decide what to think


Carter 1 was gud (7.3)
Carter 2 was better (8)
Carter 3 was pretty gud i aint gonna lie yall downgrade this album too much i thought 3 was better than 1 but 2 was better than all (7.7)



Now Jay-z blueprint Album is the shit dog i fuckin (8.7)
the 2nd one i didn’t like that much coming from Jay (7.3)
Blueprint 3 is better than the 2nd one but not the first (7.5)

yea so compare Jays best to Waynes best

The best of each: Carter 2 vs Blueprint….Jay won

2nd best of each: Carter 3 vs. Blueprint 3…..Wayne Wayne Wayne immma say it 1000 times

Carter 1 vs. Blueprint 2 a tie these both were the worst outta the 3

I think both of these series is sooooo close but Jay get it in the end becasue Jay just blows him outta of the fuckin water with the BP1 n thats the Truth, we can’t say Wayne overrall the worst than Jay in the end becuz Wayne still has many mo years on his Belt so who kno Wayne might come out with a album better than Reasonable doubt…..
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whodat118about 1 month ago
but i doubt it lol
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whodat118about 1 month ago
wait fuck tha ti change Blueprint 1 to 9 actually
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whodat118about 1 month ago
but anyways why when everytime wayne in featured in a blog Everyone and there mama hops on it i read every blog
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lyricalkillerabout 1 month ago
Cause a lot of people like him and a lot of people hate him
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sheridan1900about 1 month ago
Blueprint over Carter’s anyday, The Blueprint is easily one of the greatest albums of all time, none of Wayne’s albums are classics.
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haterzfukoffabout 1 month ago
clearly waynes albums were better… they say that if your a weezy fan your jus a bandwagon but its the other wayy around every1’s sayin blueprints are better.. to be honest wit you the carters are wayy betta… jay-z is great but wayy wayy wayyy overrated..
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treybabout 1 month ago
all i can say is that jayz is overrated and wayne is better than him. but it kills me how yall put these east coast rappers so high when they really trash. like BIGGIE for instance the nigga had two albums and yall say he the best to ever do it
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leftyduvallabout 1 month ago
ur a certified asshole to say that. but then again ur probly jus a bored kid tryin to start an uproar over hip-hop over the net. kid shit.

but to put it simply: the east coast built this rap game. NY, Jerz, Philly all were the first to do it. Chi-Town and The D made major noteable contributions too but the South was doin just fine b4 they got the spotlight. they fucked everything up. The South fucked up mainstream hip-hop. any fan of real hip-hop music knows and thinks that.

and did Big ask to be shot dead after just 3 albums? no, he told very realistic stories and covered a lot of ground content-wise in such a short amound of time. that’s why he’s a legend. hop of the bandwagon and do ur homework
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hoodstar89about 1 month ago
the first blueprint is better then all
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swagger210about 1 month ago
both this fool alright..they both have good albums when they want!!!!
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twin45about 1 month ago
Lets eliminate the small talk and comparisons…The Carter vs The Blueprint…2 hot artists, 2 hot albums, both last names Carter….Only one way to find this out is to have a legendary face off…BP4 VS Carter4 dropping on the same day…that’s what hip hop needs…Jay ain’t going to do it because he lost his drive and wanna keep what little bit of the Industry he got…Wayne won’t do it because he fears getting crush by his Idol and losing his fan base to the East…

Salute the effort tho!!!!!!!!
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twin45about 1 month ago
Besides you can’t compare to different eras in the game…lil wayne was as relevant when BP dropped and Jay wasn’t really Rapping when Carter 3 dropped..you can only compare the known as if they knew they both had the same release dates sort like Kanye and 50…than thats when you can compare albums..but to do it from this angle is wrong because they weren’t even competing for relevancy…
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0123456789abdcabout 1 month ago
@ wrongidea
You points are invalid. You say " Whose the only rapper than can get away with talking bout killing his own mom, his girlfriend. saying all kinds of shit about Satanism and borderline gay and just plain weird shit without backlash from fans?!" Let stop and break it down kid.
-Reasonable Doubt a classic in the eyes of his fans ( and everybody that not a hater) wasn’t acceptedby mainstream
-Slim Shady LP a great album in the eyes of of his fans wasn’t accepted by mainsteam either
Unlike Jay though , who went commercial after that (Vol. 1), Em said you accept me like i am (Marshall Mathers LP).
Also seeing that you only talk shit about Em content lets get to basics. Em is a acid/horrorcore rapper like Nightmare on Elm Street. Jay is a gangsta rapper like American Ganster. You can’t compare the two because one is fairytales and the other is reality.
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wrongideaabout 1 month ago
My point is invalid to “you” because you missed the point.

You chose to skim thru and pick the parts u wanted,
The point was in the parts you chose not to copy/paste:

“If you think niggas dickride Jay, there are DEFINITELY more Eminem dickriders.”

I was making a comparison about how many dickriders Em has, since Screamlox was talking about people dickriding Jay.(I thought this was obvious,..guess not.smh)

“You motherfuckers wouldn’t accept that shit from any other rapper to date. But motherfuckers are quick to defend his actions any chance they get, no matter how heinous.”

Which is by all means true. To break it down since you dont get it:

If Em were black or any other race for that matter, he wouldn’t have gotten such wide media attention talking about the things that he does.
Cuz the kind of shit he says is not “normally” accepted in the hiphop community(as well as anywhere else) and hasn’t been in the past or currently now from anyone except him.
Great examples: D12,Royce before now, etc. NO one felt them when they were doing it, especially Royce, but they definitely didn’t take it to the extreme in which Em does.
It’s almost like he gets a pass for saying shit like that just cuz dumb niggas wanna look at it like “Oh, he’s just a crazy whiteboy.lol”
No.. That shit doesn’t make him cool.I CAN’T DENY HE IS A GREAT LYRICIST BUT HISCONTENTWOULD NOT HAVE GOT HIM THIS FAR WITHOUT DRE ENDORSING IT.(and endless contreversy) To me, that shit is playing off of what you can get away with.Also known as a gimmick. Cant knock him for doing it, but its’ true.
Cmon dog,you know if he was Black, Arab, Spanish, whatever, he would have police watching his every fucking move. Real Shit.


Now that you are clear on “the point”, let me get back to doing me. Have a nice day nigga.

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wrongideaabout 1 month ago
So In conclusion “Your” comparison was pointless cuz you missed the point of the statement.
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biostormabout 1 month ago
I dont even know why this was brought up, wayne is now a mixtape artist.
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hoodlegend82about 1 month ago
Why is Wayne even being mentioned in the same sentence as Jay?
BP1 is better than any album in Wayne’s intire catalog!
Honestly, I think that Drake is nicer than Wayne, and he makes better music.
Compare Nas, or Marshall to Jay.. Not Wayne!
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juiceabout 1 month ago
FIRST BLUEPRINT > CARTER 1 & 2
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chaos96about 1 month ago
Not even worth the effort.

But its a not even a question.

Jay-Z > Wayne
The Blueprints > The Carters


PERIOD.



Peace!
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boi1da27about 1 month ago
This is a dumb blog cause people will never come to an agreement.
AS OF RIGHT NOW
Jayz and Lil’ Wayne are on the same level. The thing about Wayne is that he keeps getting better.
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fuckouthereabout 1 month ago
Fuck this we all know who’s the best
Dat boy Oj da juiceman!! U know how
How many classics he got under his belt
Cuz!!? Ayyy!!!
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leftyduvallabout 1 month ago
@boi1da27:

I don’t see any progression in Wayne’s style. it’s either a autotune-generated groupie single, or a cliche street heater.

if this is really how dude does business he needs to go underground. that way he can pretty much do what he wants. the mainstream has a format to it, and he and alotta otha cats make a mockery of it.

next topic please
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christiandonteabout 1 month ago
FIRST OFF IF YOU DIDNT PICK THE CATER’S YOU ARE ALL WRONG…IT A CLOSE ONE BUT WAYNE’S CARTER’S WIN NARROWLY. THE GRITTYNESS AND CHARISMA SETS WAYNE OVER THE EGDE IN THI COMPARRISONJUST THINK ABOUT THE CARTER’S ARE TODAYS BLUEPRINTS!
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shytownfinestabout 1 month ago
all i got to say is jayz is better so fuck every thing else
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kingjames206about 1 month ago
blueprint 1 over all 3 of tha carters
carter 1 & 3 over blueprint 2 & 3 easy…….
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fuckouthereabout 1 month ago
to me if you want to be the best rapper it has to be more than lyrics cuz if were talkin who has the best lyrics jay and wayne r out of they eqation. then we would have have to be talkin about nas or kweli, eminem, common etc cuz personally there all lyrically better than jay and wayne period. but to be the best rapper alive
good delivery
wordplay
flow
lyrics
it all comes down to those 4 right there and maybe more if you want to add statistics like 1 albums, or grammys or watever. but to me the only people who are the best at all of those are wayne and jay and def. eminem right now so those are the best rappers alive right now(ok wayne might lack lyrics somtimes but he def makes up with his delivery, flow, wordplay, and his beat selection)
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fuckouthereabout 1 month ago
Whoops forgot creativity but they
All got that 2
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ashylarryabout 1 month ago
come on with the Jay vs Wayne comparisons.. I’m a fan of both but come on..

Blueprints > Carters

I like Wayne more than Jay but Wayne can’t fuck with Jay…

BP1 is better than anything wayne has ever put out..

Please stop the comparisons.. But everyone has an opinion.. & it’s just that.. an opinion
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