Are Rappers Dumb, Dull, And Lazy, Or Is It Just Me? [Part 1]
by on August 31st, 2009
I have to say that after years of being a member/follower/contributer to Defsounds.com, it is clear that my style of hip hop, as well as my standards for a good album can at times be completely different compared to some of the other members of the Defsounds community. But usually when good music is out my opinion usually runs consistently with others, well that was what I thought until a couple of days ago.
While sitting in a recording studio at my graduate school, I got into a conversation with a friend about Blueprint III, and Loso's Way. Two very different albums, from two of my favorite rappers, but for some reason this friend of mine felt that Loso's Way was a classic album, and that Blueprint III would also be a classic. Now some of you may actually agree with this friend of mine, but clearly, I do not and here is why.
Blueprint III and Loso's Way have one thing in common to me. They both have way to many collaborations. To some this may come off as no big deal, but let me explain why I see this as a problem.
If the Hip Hop industry is one where artist are supposed to take pride in their lyrical skill and ability to make a good song or songs, then what does it look like an album where over half of your songs has someone else on it, are you out of idea's, inspiration subject, plot, lyrics, are you unable to hold down an entire album by yourself, what is it?
Why is it that I pay 12-20 dollars to purchase an album that is supposed to feature you and what you have to say, but I hear more T-Pain, Drake, Trey Songz and whoever else is doing hot collabo's right now. There is nothing wrong with a hot collabo, or two, even three is good. But how much of the album can I say is really yours when on every song there is someone else joining in.
This is the problem I have with the Blueprint III. That Hov is by far my favorite rapper (with Joe Budden coming in a close second), but how dare you name this album the Blueprint, then when the tracklist is released, all I see are features.
The Blueprint was a classic and it only had 3 features, Reasonable Doubt had 7 features, but lets be honest, he wrote Bleek's verse and probably Foxy's, so its really 5. The Black Album, which in my eyes was a sure fire classic, only had one feature, so why now pop up with an album that resembles a compilation album, when its supposed to be follow up to some of your best work ever?
How can I trust that your still the best rapper alive when you cant even put out an album that has 7 straight tracks with just you spitting?
As for Fab, he is my favorite rapper, while at the same time being one of the artist that I hate the most. How do you make a concept album, then fail to stay on topic on your own album, how does that happen?
The original plan for the album was to limit the featured artist, and make it a more street gritty album, that focused on the concept of the movie Carlito's Way, but in Fabolous eyes. Instead you get an album that's great for the clubs. It does wonders for the females, but fails at what it was meant to be a CONCEPT ALBUM.
To make matters worse out of 19 songs (two which were Itunes Bonus tracks) eleven of them have some sort of featured artist. So to add it all up, he cant stay on topic. He made an album for women and casual listeners, when this was supposed to be his street friendly album, and now he's oversaturating the CD with other people, because from this writer's eyes he cant seem to make a complete song by his self. Now you tell me how this or Blueprint III deserves to be a classic.
With saying that, there have been albums that proved to be great and they had a lot of collabo's. Doggie Style, The Chronic, All Eyes On Me, were all great albums, which were heavy on collabo's, but those were artist that ascended beyond the skill set of a Fabolous, so choose your arguments wisely.
Next up I'll discuss Lil Wayne and all of the way's he makes me ashamed of being a fan of his smh.



























fabs album wasnt bad, it was just reallyyy disappointing
i wanted some street on the album, but the only song that was really fitting with the theme except is “the way” (like the 1st or 2nd track)
as for jay…smh i just dont know what to say..the shit is terrible (and im a huge jay fan) but i know good music and dont dickride..jays album sucks unless ur a techno pop fan, sorry
And as for Hov, yeah he’s disappointed me he has WAY more potential and he should be going all out to show nigga’s that HOV is still on top but some track’s is sarting to make me lean OFF this nigga, not completely. I dont hate any of the track’s i think they were all hot but too… modernized, get me? There’s nothing wrong with being current but there’s also nothing wrong with rapping to those back then cool vibe type of beat’s. Like look at Kid Cudi he make’s hot shit and all he does is spit to slow nice vibe kinda beat’s. BUT those Timbo productions have thrown me off… As of right now i dont know what else to say but that they really are leaning on the lazy side, they got cake theres no competition why you think it’s “Collabo’s Gone Wild” in HipHop right now…
M y 2 C e n t s .
Take for example Nas, Illmatic = classic.
Verses not by him? 1!
Oh and btw, Loso’s way being classic = fail.
It was decent, but it wasn’t even average, nonetheless, CLASSIC.
GOOD BLOG.
“but how dare you name this album the Blueprint, then when the tracklist is released, all I see are features.”
Blueprint 2: The Gift & The Curse got features out the ass.
i HIGHLY doubt Loso’s way is a classic….
Marshall Mathers LP – Classic
Loso’s way is not at MMLP’s level
an hov does it really matter even with collaberations its still gunna be great
i rather hear these two then lil wayne
i wanna see ur wayne shit tho to see what u think, cause i got alot to say about that dude
Jay-z BP3 gonaa b hot
“Too Many Rappers Not Enough Mc’s”
there should be 3-4 collabs most if you want a classic album unless you have 8 collabs that are on the level of rengade..patiently waiting…forgot about dre…brooklyns finest all classic songs
It only had 2 songs with features and Em did ALL the hooks himself.
He didn’t need that current “popular” R&B artist to do hooks for him.
There’s nothing wrong with rappers wanting to work with eachother, but they need to realize people buy THEIR CD’s for THEM. Not to hear other artists they may not care about.
But I rarely expect albums released these days to be classic. U wont see anymore classics seriously. And I mean the real definition of classic, that you can compare to previous undeniable classics. Not some shit thats better than whats out now
I see people hating on BP3. Thats cool. IMO, this is a great CD. Yes, A GREAT CD
Classics need time – that’s pretty much the definition of Classic.
Something that has valued over a period of time.
let me give you the list of songs that had features in the top 200
Changes by 2pac (featured Talent)
Stan by Eminem (featured Dido)
Aint Nothin But A G Thang by Dr Dre (featured Snoop Dogg)
Gin & Juice by Snoop Dogg (featured Daz)
I Got 5 On It (featured Michael Marshall)
One Day by UGK (featured Mr. 3-2 & Ronnie Spencer)
The Truth by Pharoahe Monch (featured Common & Talib Kweli)
Scenario by ATCQ (featured Leaders of the New School)
Walk this Way by Run-DMC (featured Aerosmith)
Sixth Sense by Common (featured Bilal)
All I Need by Method Man (featured Mary J Blige)
If I Ruled the World by Nas (featured Lauryn Hill)
What They Do by The Roots (featured Raphael Saadiq)
3 Card Molly by Xzibit (featured Ras Kass & Saafir)
Regulate by Warren G (featured Nate Dogg)
Mo Money Mo Problems by Biggie (featured Mase & Puffy)
Heard Em Say by Kanye West (featured Adam Levine)
Gangstas Paradise by Coolio (featured LV)
Daydreamin by Lupe Fiasco (featured Jill Scott)
Hip Hop Saved My Life by Lupe Fiasco (featured Nikki Jean)
Murder Was the Case by Snoop Dogg (featured Daz)
Worst Comes to Worst by Dilated Peoples (featured Guru)
4th Chamber by GZA (featured Killah Priest, RZA, & Ghostface Killah)
Hail Mary by 2Pac (featured Outlawz & Prince Ital Joe)
Woo Hah!! Got You All In Check by Busta Rhymes (featured Rampage)
Guns Are Drawn by The Roots (featured Aaron Livingston)
Hand of the Dead Body by Scarface (featured Devin the Dude & Ice Cube)
This DJ by Warren G (featured OGLB)
You Must Love Me by Jay-Z (featured Kelly Price)
In Between Us by Scarface (featured Nas & Tanya Herron)
Till I Collapse by Eminem (featured Nate Dogg)
All That I Got Is You by Ghostface Killah (featured Mary J Blige)
Rain by Chamillionaire (featured Billy Cook & Scarface)
This Cant Be Life by Jay-Z (featured Beanie Sigel & Scarface)
Retrospective for Life by Common (featured Lauryn Hill)
La Di Da Di by Doug E Fresh (featured Slick Rick)
Why by Jadakiss (featured Anthony Hamilton)
Endangered Species by Ice Cube (featured Chuck D)
Twinz by Big Pun (featured Fat Joe)
Duel of the Iron Mic by GZA (featured Masta Killa, Inspectah Deck, & Ol’ Dirty Bastard)
Death is Certain II by Royce da 5’9" (featured )
You Got Me by The Roots (featured Eve & Erykah Badu)
The Life by Styles P (featured Pharoahe Monch)
Victory by Puffy (featured Biggie & Busta Rhymes)
Around My Way by Talib Kweli (featured John Legend)
Little Weapon by Lupe Fiasco (featured Bishop G & Nikki Jean)
My Downfall by Biggie (featured DMC)
The People by Common (featured Dwele)
The Next Episode by Dr. Dre (featured Snoop Dogg & Nate Dogg)
He Got Game by Public Enemy (featured Stephen Stills)
The World is a Ghetto by Geto Boys (featured Flaj)
sorry that i listed this, but im extensive, and it gives a good look at the pluses of collaboration
that was a chilling " Chain Robbery " Story
" As for Fab, he is my favorite rapper "
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lol , I think mister Lyrical have lost in his own Thoughts !!!
you just not into rap music anymore
p.s loso’s way was a shit album, made for females.. nigga doesnt even make his own music nomore…
n im sure bp3 will disapoint and will be aimed torward the teen market, like everything else
thats enough for me he gave us enough already
fab completely fucked Loso’s Way up by doin wat he always does….sell out
its sad too cuz fab has skills but hes too stuck on making weak ass mainstream shit
See, you will notice that features are important in the mainstream listeners mind. They see common artist feature names (such as T-Pain) as an accomplishment for the artist’s album. Jay-Z knows that as he gets older he needs to still captivate the larger (mainstream) audience. He does this by getting the next best thing in the mainstream’s eyes (let’s just say, Rihanna) on his album.
smh