A Theory about fans of Nas and Jay-Z
by on June 27th, 2007
I’ll do my best to explain this as clearly as possible. I’ve been stewing on this for quite some time now, observing, and asking questions everywhere I go, and to various people I meet, and I have come to a semi conclusion on my original hypothesis. The theory is as follows:
Jay-Z fans and Nas fans follow two primarily different paths in life, one hungering for the limelight and riches, while one takes a more conservative, non materialistic approach to living. Simply saying, does the average Jay-Z fan desire a little more out of life than the average Nas fan? Before you start your rants, hear me out, you just may learn something about yourself.
Jay-Z and Nas, by all accounts, are two completely different people. While Jay has been straight-forward since 1996, aiming for the good life, women, business, and wealth, Nas on the other hand has primarily gone the conscious route, not necessarily advocating the finer things, and emphasizing a more conservative, righteous lifestyle. This leads me to believe that their fans coincide with this, and with all of my research this has generally proved to be correct.
Jay-Z fans listen to him because he signifies their goal in life - a wealthy businessman/woman from the ground up. They are motivated by his words, and his persistence, along with his arrogance, and “Fuck you, Pay me” persona. Nas may interest them as an artist, but he is far from someone whose life model they would follow. Most would view the life that the other side lives a failure.
On the flip side of the coin, Nas fans latch onto him because he is, well, everything Jay-Z is not, from a different perspective. The atypical Nas fan nearly opposes most materialism, and usually hungers for the knowledge that he expresses in his music. They are not caught up with trying to be rich and famous, they don’t care about the hot car of the moment, and the like. The simple things in life are the most important to this person, and they feel they have lived a successful life by doing this.
Which leads me to ask - What exactly defines “Success”? Is it a definite, clear-cut institution, or is it in the eye of the beholder? Is it adding
massive funds to your bank account, and standing atop the social stratosphere, or is it the man with a great job, a wife, and a healthy family?
Meaning, is it the Jay-Z fan, with the hot girl, and the Range Rover, or the Nas fan, in the less expensive vehicle, with the love of his life?
Just to remind you, I do not intend to create some type of Jay-Z Vs Nas debate here, because this has very little to do with them as artists, and more to do with our connection to them. This is also not me calling Nas fans “inferior” and Jay fans “superior”. This is me doing a general sweep of the goals/mindsets of them.
Take a good look at your life, and see where you fall into this theory. There are always exceptions, but if you’re able to be objective, you just might agree with what I’ve said.



























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Jay-z Showed and Proved that he was the real smart guy…Jigga won Nas bow and sign to his label or DefJam
The only reason why I give Jay the lead when it comes to these 2 is because NAS pisses me off faith wise. Every cd he’s a believer in a different relgion…
Kufi or Cross Nas…that’s my only question!
But I still love the fuck outta both of them… Period!
GREAT F’N EDITORIAL!
~Be Eazy!
I listen to both artist equally. They both say thought provoking shit. But just in different ways. Nas in more thoughtful but Jay is has more Wit. Both artists choose beats that cater to there rhyme style. I think there fans just like good music.
I Think Nas Raps about How far People can Go In Life But Jay-Z Rather Make Himself A Prime Example
Again good shit!
A) I am a NAS fan. And,
B) I will FULLY comment on this thing, IN-DEPTH, in the a.m. I haven’t shut any Jay fans down in a while.
Los out
Nas is a more spiritual person than Jay…eventhough i still consider Jay a conscious rapper. Jay told yall “truthfully, he’d rather rhyme like Talib Kweli”,
but he is just a damn good business man.
Now gettin back to the subject, i feel that Fullmetal has a valid point in that what ever artist is your favorite im sure you feel a deep connection with them where you at in your life or where you wanna be in life..but one couldn’t say that they are flat out just like an artist that they admire…that is borderline “stanism”.
And as for my personal feelings on the subject, i just got mad love for Nas because he (90% of the time) is trying to elevate the blackman in this wilderness by droppin jewels into his intricte rhyme patterns. That is true to my culture, which is freedom, justice, and equality.
And to those that question Nas’ faith, i beleive he has foundations with 5% knowledge, wisdom, understanding….but that does not limit him to just being a follower of one faith, because his culture is based on a way of life, not religion.
PEACE
Jim Jones brought hip-hop back?
(Pause)
WTF?
Worst rappers haha
I’m a fan of both, but I’ll always be a Jay fan first. My likeness towards them is based solely on their lyrical ability and composition. They’re both at different ends of the style & substance spectrum. Jay is more on towards the style end of the spectrum and I believe Nas is more toward the substance end. Don’t get me wrong, they both have a little bit of each, but each one just has more of either trait.
Wholly my opinion people.
Jay n Nas grew up in different lifestyles…lemme educate ya
Nas dropped out of High school in 9th grade……
Dude taught himself about black history and how far black people have come….before slavery.
Thats what he deleiver in his messages (political, history, Society)
Man nas taught me some blk history non of ma teachers teach us at school..
Yes jay the more business man then nas….(Jay was nice in his younger years)
And for the fans….when u show me an scientific study showing that Fans base makes a difference and who can relate with who
then ican agree with some parts of article..
Nas fans might be bigger then jay than u know it…
I personally believe that Nas is the greatest storyteller of all time and that his flow and wordplay are a few notches above Jay’s. But I love Jay to death and believe that, overall, he is the 3rd greatest rapper of all time, though he’s been kind of lackluster lately, primarily on cameos, such as Rihanna and Beyonce’s joints. But he’s still doin’ his thing.
The fan bases are basically, people that love the type of Hip-Hop that is multi-dimensional. Both have just straight ripped a track, told stories, speed flown like Bone, slowed it down for the ladies, made “spiritual healing” tracks, made party tracks (mostly Jay, though), and kicked knowledge (mostly Nas, though). Nas says a lotta shit that makes you press rewind like, “Did he just SAY that!?” And many of Jay’s tracks have an INFECTIOUS beat that you never want to stop listening to. Being an avid Nas fan, I’ll admit that sometimes, even I get bored with listening to him. So, I switch to Jay. And when I get bored with both of them, I switch to someone else or listen to some R&B. Just depends on what type of mood I’m in.
But, I concur with
disagreelos1
when he said that he does not pattern his life after these rappers. It’s an image they present, period. I am my own man; my own person. I like their music, but don’t pattern my life by what they say and project on the tracks. Besides, both of them are always switching it up anyway, based on how THEY feel. I follow my own path.
By the way, FULLMETAL said that Nas is everything Jay-Z is not. What? Are you seriously serious? Nas and Jay-Z are so one in the same, it’s crazy. This post is already long enough, so I’ll leave you all with a quote from each of two of my all time favorite emcees:
Jay – “…do you dudes listen to music, or do you just skim through it” (paraphrased!)
Nas – “… you thinkin’ life’s all about smokin’ weed and ice. You don’t wanna be my age and can’t read and write.”
So… did YOU read it, or just skim through it?
Um… That has absolutely nothing to do with the Editorial, dude.
- Evis, REREAD what I wrote, the RECOMMENT. You gotta dig beneath the surface, my dude. I “try” to be a deep dude. If you sincerely interpret what I was saying, you’ll retract the ? you posed. Thank you for both your time and your patience.
Now I can see why you hang out on the main site. No-one is able to see through your obvious stupidity.
On another note, Jokesta, I like this new setup y’all got where you can specifically reply to someone’s comment rather than copy and paste what they said. … I like! Keep steppin’ y’all game up!
Guess that makes you unique……and retarded.
I fully concur with you… ESPECIALLY THE 1ST sentence… and 4 all, of course, if u go back and read my comment, you’ll see that I tied all my comments BACK into the editorial quite nicely.
Secondly, “crowd support”, Eve? Like you saying now you “see why ‘everyone’” says I am quote “scared” to come to the forums? Ha… funny… who is everyone? And, YOU still NEVER commented ON the alleged editorial! This dude is funny… skewedly aware, but funny… which is why I’m even entertaining his comments. Ha. Obviously, he NEVER (notice I continue 2 say what he NEVER did) followed directions and REREAD my comment like I told him to. Dude, what are you CREDENTIALS? I was trynna hold out but we really need them.
1. Where are you from? include the city and the hood.
2. How old are you?
3. Race… believe it or not, this is extremely important.
4. Sex… same as above.
5. Favorite Rapper (if male).
6. Favorite Female Rapper.
7. Favorite Group.
8. New category… Why is Hip-Hop even important to you…
I need this information 2 continue correspondence with someone who has their own agenda or is not making sense. It gives everyone an understanding of your reasoning and where you’re coming from.
1. Camden, N.J. Park$ide section.
2. 27 (March)
3. Black
4. Male
5. Nas, of course.
6. Lauryn, of course.
7. Fugees/Firm
8. Hip-Hop is more than music to me… it’s life… it’s culture… my culture…. there’s something for everyone.
YOUR TURN…
Credentials, LOL.
I definitely agree with what you just said … I couldn’t have put it any better myself …. At the end of the day though I lean very much more to Nas,just cause’ of the fact that when the party is over,when the money bitches and hoe’s are already old and the past,and you get older and wiser thing’s change.You want to hear and something diffrent,and just cause’ of the fact that,Nas for me he just has much more to say …
I SWEAR I basically said all those things this morning, but in a bigger nutshell, so 2 speak, and then got ridiculed by a hanger-on for being “off-topic”… I love it! hahahahaahaaa…
That sums it up
Oh yeah, listen to Tha Watcher 2, then listen to Carry on Tradition Verse 2
Tell me what you think
I think that it just depends on where you are at in your life. If I am stressed out about money, I might put on Reasonable Doubt. Even though I am not hustling, the hunger for money that Jay expresses in the song gives motivation to get off of your feet and get that money, whether it be a part time job or hustling the motivation is there.
If I am stressed out about work or being a single mother I might put on some Nas and that lets me know that I am not the only one living in a world where being a black woman means I have 3 strikes against me, and that I have to work 3 times as hard to do anything.
Both are skilled lyrist and you can not say that about many artist today.
Crazy shout out to both, because they always have something to say. It may be positive, it may be negative but when they speak millions can relate. And that is what hip hop is about.
Holla.
Thanks for writing this though.
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