50 Talks About Rappers With Credibility

by Lyricalthought on July 7th, 2009

http://media.defsounds.com/uploads/assets/17/77/24747/asset.jpegIn an industry where an artist can be considered one of the hardest rappers in the game in one instant, and then be exposed as a fraud the very next; The credebility of Hardcore gangsta rap has shown a steady decline in popularity amongst many fans.

But with Hip Hop seemingly headed in another direction the Queens rapper still found time to discuss rappers that he felt were legit with their stories. 

In a recent interview with XXL, 50 Cent weighed in on the correlation between rappers’s questionable street creds and the lack of interest in gangsta rap. He spoke about two artist in particular, the first was rapper Plies.

“With Plies, if you say he’s a college kid, so what? I wish I was a college kid. I wish I didn’t grow up under the circumstances I had to grow up under. I would have liked to just go to college and study business. I see him rap about the girls a lot, so that’s true, from my perspective, Plies, his strong hit records are about females…and ‘Bust It Baby’ and that type of material. To me that’s authentic. He gon get the girls. You see him, decked out, he’s right, girls like him. That’s official.”

Things didn't go as well when 50 talked about his current nemesis Rick Ross who was exposed for being a Correction Officer in the early 90's 

“What was awkward was being part of law enforcement and completely writing drug dealer material and the biggest drug dealer in the world material, that was a little bit fictional. I mean hip-hop in general…I don’t think anybody is actively out, anybody with good sense ain’t actively out doing exactly what they said on the record or they won’t actually last cause you’ll get attention from law enforcement based on what you saying.”

50 continued to throw shots at Ross, saying; “Can you imagine what it’s like…when you convince the general public that you’re that person, you’re also convincing law enforcement, this is why you don’t see me out and about as often as you see these other guys at frivolous events, just wherever. I’m not with it.”

50 currently has a new mixtape out titled "Forever King."

 
 
 
 

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dooflinky8 months ago
1st!!!!
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callmehdre8 months ago
HAHA BITCHES WATCH OUT FOR A 50 AND PLIES COLLABO COMING SOON PLIES IS REAL NIGGA
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callmehdre8 months ago
PLies Still Real
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yungmayoxxx8 months ago
50 cents the goat, im glad he gave plies props for his gangsterness

~be mayo
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chuckcity8 months ago
why dis fuknigga curtis talkin bout who got cred when he aint got a liq of it?!da hoe ass nigga went hollywood rite afta GRODT. fuck em’
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gitmunny8 months ago
i dig wut 50 sayin but plies is wack n ross is fake so y r they even bein talked about… wen it comes 2 street cred u should talk bout niggaz lyk D-block or M.O.P…. 50 roll wit cops at all his concerts so he shouldnt b talkin shit bout street cred especially now cuz he tryna buy his shit back
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kingml2138 months ago
I don’t think anybody is actively out, anybody with good sense ain’t actively out doing exactly what they said on the record or they won’t actually last cause you’ll get attention from law enforcement based on what you saying.”

I AGREE 100PERCENT WITH WHAT HE SAID………………..HE’S JUST BEING HONEST I DON’T EVEN SEE THIS AS A DISS TOWARDS ROSS I DON’T THINK A REAL DRUG DEALER WOULD SAY HE SELLS DRUGS ALSO O DON’T EVEN THINK AMERICA HAS BIG TIME DRUG DEALERS ANYMORE ARE LAWS ARE TO STRICT.(deeper than rap is still a dope album)
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wendell39078 months ago
@ chuckcity…. just becuz he’s not in the streets anymore does mean he never was… u can watch the old videos ull hear the guys from his old hood talkin about him… they sayin he left them but the point is for him to leave them he had to be there, therefore he has street cred… and wut is he supposed to do become a huge rap star and still sell drugs and shoot ppl??……. yea thats smart
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getdeezbuckets8 months ago
what the hell is king talking bout america dont have any big time drug dealers anymore the laws are too strict? where the hell u from it must be a population of 500,..come to a big city like chicago and see whats really good when it comes to them italians or some real king pins that still here wit old money,…and cops are more crooked than drug dealers so laws and got shit to do wit shit really
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marco35258 months ago
Bottom line both rappers talked about are garbage.
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regulator8 months ago
at least 50s honest.. yah he rolls wit cops— cuz cops are all over him from his “most gangsta rapper ever” days.. and i agree wit the whole ross thing i been on that way before 50.. i always knew he was a fraud and never liked his shit.. i actually did like a couple songs off his new cd.. but besides that fuck ross and plies they both herbs.. its one thing to say somethin and its another to really portray yourself as the other persona that u arent..
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myflowiswavy8 months ago
Its tru wat he sed i aqree
bottom line i rather fuck wif plies than officer ricky
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geez178 months ago
the title to this piece of news is misleading…also y the hell did this make it to the next page. no real news here by any means..just fifty doin what he does best: bullshittin
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chuckcity8 months ago
@wendell3907,ok u tell curtis to go back to queens and he gonna get his fukkin wig pushed bak..the snitch cant go no where wit out tha fedz on standby
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bws088 months ago
u a bitch nigga
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dajjal20128 months ago
even NWA, PAc and the rest of the G’s in the early 90s would sometimes tell stories….not living that life…..its music…eminem don’t be serial killing and shooting at ppl.but hes music still dope.
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paullie098 months ago
OG NEXT DOOR,the TRAPINI MAFIA MUSIC rapper’s debut titled I SAW,I KILLED,I CONQUERED….Cop or DIE!
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vicdavilln8 months ago
Fuck 50,this nigga is lame.
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thinkucanrap8 months ago
50 is actually right in this interview…
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m6ttnptwn8 months ago
that “forever king” goes hard. 50’s buzz is back again.
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callmehdre8 months ago
PLIES is one of the realist niggas in the game just cuz he went to college don’t mean he wasn’t still slangin he shit.if ya’ll niggas out here weren’t soooo fuckin SIMPLE ya’ll would know wat the fuck a real nigga is cuz a REAL nigga know u might want a better EDUCATION so u can learn to sell yo shit BETTER……………dumb asses
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joty8 months ago
This from someone that spells “you” “u”…. grammar and spelling are still fun kids

Your Friendly Neighborhood
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devinewrite8 months ago
you know I only come to thiese website to read the articles and the comments to see what people have to say about what … I never signed up … you and your ignorant comment made me sign up today … how old are you? and first and foremost you can’t make excuses for why plies is not a good artist and why his “goon” life is untrue second where do you learn to sell drugs in college? if so then perhaps your taking a class to convince people that plis is actually good … what is that weak rapper protection 102 and your project was to make excuses for plies and and in the mix of it all you said the most ignorant thing I have ever heard … congrats sir your intelligence is unparralelled.
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leftyduvall8 months ago
I thought Fif had better taste than to be givin Plies credit. songs for the braods aint authentic hardcore rap. it’s not. that shit is called POP music! the real hardcore rappers have been against that bullshit for years!

pop may sell but real rap should be aggressive, for the streets. aint shit real about plies. suck a fat one asshole!

oh, and Forever King goes hard! if u like some 90’s slow jams mixed in
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joovyxl8 months ago
Fif is talking about rappers credibility.
i dont like Plies but that nigga has more credibility than Ross.
Plies music focuses mostly on the females, you dont really hear him rapping about shit he has never done.
look at Ross, that fat nigga has based his whole image on something he has probably never done being that he used to work Law Enforcement.
so u cant really knock Plies.
but in my eyes, Ross is nothing.
he has some good songs but its hard for me to listen to him knowing that most of his lyrics are bullshit.
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domo2028 months ago
50 new mixtape is hot and i dont really listen to plies no more unless he talking that goon shit that niggaz want to hear i dont like girly songs to much
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rob08 months ago
ive heard some raw and graphic shit from plies underground material and ive always wondered if it was true if it is true then hes not the type of guy u wanna be around
anyways real gansters are invisible and dont brag the greatest mob bosses always said THE MOB DONT EXIST!!!!!!!!!
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leftyduvall8 months ago
dudes like plies go hand in hand with dudes like 50: one minute they got the NWA vibe goin on, the next they’re full-blown Ja Rule’n on the track! I aint wit it!

if ur gonna play a role play THAT role. fuck the labels! rappers is slaves for these muhfuckas!
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juice2258 months ago
FUCK PLIES FUCK 50 AND FUCK ROSS..im not hatin im just hatin lol and to the fuckboy ahead of me, who gives a fuck if u spell ‘you’ or ‘u’..im mean u want to break out the grammar try sayin ‘this is’ dumb bitch…its commenting on some fuckin rappers does grammer matter..fuck outta here with that shit…Relapse2
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thacahhter8 months ago
“Gangsta Rap” never belonged in Hip-Hop in tha first place, people say Hip-Hop was killed by this and that well all this murder murder murder, bust yo a** talk, I don’t give a fu*k talk was tha real poisoning to me. I use to bang Pac, Bone (but they spit what tha masses wanted when really they just wanted to get high bcuz I never smoked a day in my life but I swear they made me think it was tha sh*t LOL) I listened to Snoop, Dre, even 50, but then Iexpanded and got a stronger appreciation for music and remembered how great Tribe Called Quest, K-Rs1, Heavy D, MC Lyte, hell even Queen Latifah use to spit.

But its like I tell my students many didnt know any better it was purely expression of what they witnessed, funny Pac wised up and didn’t wanna rap about being a “THUG” any more (dnt take my word for it look it up tha interviews are online) but he tried to kill that noise in his latter career bcuz he saw what it was doing, then all of a sudden it got kool to talk about how many drugs you pushin, how you flipping weight.

All BS aside Ijust think it deserved its own genre. Yes tha definition of Hip-Hop allows free range to contribute to tha art form, but I tire of beginning lectures with premeditated ignorant thoughts where students say where’s real Hip-Hop like gangsta rap, but then they hate on tha new microwave rappers hot for a few months then its something new. So they givin us catch hooks and corny dances, and then we have murder, dope, sellin, and stories of sleeping with women. But thas Hip-Hop, its freedom, it isn’t women, guns, and drugs…or corny dances and snap music its all of it; thank tha Lord we had artist like Pac who used there gift to reach people everywhere because it wasn’t his gangster talk that made him it was his ability to be him. He came in saying, “I bust my glock die everybody die” and left saying BETTER DAYS and CHANGE, and both were him, but I still wish gangster talk would’ve been given its own place straight up.

Go grab tha “Message” and tha “Breaks” classic Hip-Hop, dnt even know what this credibility BS talk is, plain and simple it doesn’t belong. Why should I believe a rapper who’s been shot is kooler than one that hasnt, tell me how it felt, how it made you feel, not that you’re “realer” or more credible than someone else, yea maybe if I got shot and need help coping, these rappers today are brainwashing yall.

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secondson8 months ago
thats real talk bro. one of the problems is the youth movement in hip hop. people talk all the time how hip hop belongs to the young and you washed up at 30. are you serious with that. the fact is that the people that created the art were in there 30’s. the music sounded mature, introspective, and very revolutionary. it was grow out of the civil rights struggle, by the civil rights generation. their children gave birth to the golden era mid 80’s to early 90’s. they were raised with a conscience sence of community and the music reflected as much. now everyone is happy go lucky and think everything is sweet in the world. they have lost a sence of community. this is a regression in our culture and the music is reflectin such movement!
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twan5088 months ago
the whole god damn ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY IS BRAINWASHING YALL….
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callmehdre8 months ago
Hill Billy Language^LOL
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drdreezy0018 months ago
Nobody gives a fuck about what 50 has to say anymore. He is kind of like the stepson of hiphop. he doesnt get any attention now, so all he does is whine.
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ruthless8 months ago
true that and he always tryna talk about wats wacc when he fell off his damn self
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saveourhiphop8 months ago
You got that right, 5-0 will never be as good as tupac and will never be like him, tupac has a conscience, cared about people and people cared about him, I Cried when he died in 1996, the public did.

Who’s gonna cry when this clown dies?
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305silverback8 months ago
ayy 50 always be speaking real shit in his interviews,that nigga says what he thinks nothing fake about that nigga
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jaredsmith208 months ago
hahahahahah fifs right, i dont understand how anyone listens to rick ross’s shit. that nigga still claims that he sells shitloads of coke hahahaha. his last record rich of cocaine hahahaha are you fucking kidding me rick ross???? its bad enough tryin to get us to beleive that he use to sell coke before he rapped but for us to beleive that now with his record deal and all his loot and he still sells coke ?!?!?!?! His last record flopped,,,, anyone who has a 2nd week dropoff like ross did shows that LA REID has about 100,000 copies of rDeeper than Rap stashed away at his house. this nigga is on borrowed time.
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moody288 months ago
damn! we correcting brotha’s on how to use you vs u now? wow!! defsounds, ur music PLUS spelling site!! (i just said ‘ur’…wheres the smart guy at?) Anyway, in the context he was using it,50 gotta good point. I dont know how it became a bad thing to have a college education and be a rapper at the sametime. Have you niggas been on a college campus lately? that shit is THUGGED OUT!! LOL!! Theres a lot of certified street niggas that attend college, trust me on that. Overall, none of these niggas do all the shit that they rap about. The fine line, at least in my opinion, is when these niggas start to become delusional in their fairy tales (jim jones, rick ross, j hood) or just straight bi-polar(GAME)..for me, that kills the craftmanship of their songs. Niggas like Jay, Nas..they spit alot of crafty visuals that just come off fly for some reason, and then you have other artist such as Talib Kweli, mos def, immortal technique, andmany more, that spit some political/reality/street/intellect shit…i lean toward those guys. Im trying some new shit…instead of worrying about niggas credibility…im just trying to listen to the cats i respect on wax and not pay the ones i dont any attention (big up reckless! im taking ur advice) im trying to fall back in love with the culture, and trying hard not to be so much of a character judge of artist i dont even know.

peace.
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leftyduvall8 months ago
oooo I gotta disagree with u there son. 50’s a known fake/snake. Whoo Kid (or whoever it was back then) needed $75K for bail and 50 wouldn’t help a brotha out! even after GRODT did, what, double platinum?

as a rapper and business man give ‘em about as much props as I give Puff. as a man tho, naaaw…if he offered me a deal I’d hafta think it over lol.
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tommybeanspa8 months ago
agree wit u totally my dude and it’s bang em smurf that he diden’t give the bail to and just acted like he diden’t even know him after he helped him get his come up
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saveourhiphop8 months ago
And let’s not forget the murders of Israel ramirez and D.O. Cannon and other things.
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andrei1878 months ago
50 actually has a point y’all
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moody288 months ago
@ THACAHHTER- u said the realest shit ever typed on a keyboard! if i could prop you 20 times, i would! respect…

peace
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foreverking8 months ago
FOREVER KING THE BEST MIXTAPE OUT….YOU CANT FUCK WITH 50..HE THE REALEST
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ukallday8 months ago
yea theres a difference between talkin on wat u done in the past with a bit of exaduration to make it a bit more interesting n then theres talkin bout doin it n bein active still like the dumbfuck who got knocked for murder a while back cus he made a song which was a step by step confession lol think his name was blue something or other

but like jay rock he spits grimey gang bang shit… n at the end of april he was hauled in n hes a prime suspect in a driveby shootin.. so like hes got his buzz n shit goin n i think hes a promising artist to bring the western movement back but theres a possibility hes thrown it
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ukallday8 months ago
all away cus he may b tryin to keep it too real by stayin active

then u got game who alot of people question his credibility… but he lived in compton so wether or not he was actively bangin or not his best mate was an active banger as were his brother n im sure alot of people he knew was.. its a lifestyle so maybe he did or didnt do it.. but he knows wat hes talkin bout so i give him respect on sheddin light on it n makin it big…

but ross.. he was law enforcer n talkin he pushed kilos n says he still is lol… if hes pushin kilos y is he makin records that create poor sells?/ hed b better off quitin music goin on the downlow n keep selling kilos [although he never has but u get wat im sayin]
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ritchybillsz8 months ago
i agree wit 50 ross iz better than plies but hes a joke
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jaffar8 months ago
Forever King is dope!
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leftyduvall8 months ago
I jus wanna know what gives plies his street cred. when he’s not lickin pussy over a beat he’s talkin bout how bad other ppls lives are. I can dig that cuz he’s bein realistic. but how does that make him real if he’s never been in these situations himself?
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callmehdre8 months ago
u dont know that
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callmehdre8 months ago
when his family is fucking up nobody else dont care thats y he makes them kinda songs
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bambinoorc8 months ago
Ok ppl… Plain and simple. Every “rapper” or “artist” is nothing but an ENTERTAINER!! That’s what we do. We ENTERTAIN ppl with our music… (I say WE cause I’m in the game also, up & coming- Check us out for yourself www.myspace.com/orc) But really though, there are some cats out there that have lived what they talk/talked about. Terra squad, for example, when Big Pun was alive or Cuban Link, Yukmouth from the Bay. These are a few examples of real niggaz that were/are really pimpin, really banging, sellin shit and what not. Word of advise; Do NOT believe everything you here on wax. In regards to the 2 “artists” mentioned above- They are both GARBAGE. R.Ross is a phony, ex-cop who will never gain credibility. It’s just an IMAGE that they put out for ppl who don’t know any better, to believe ya dig. Plies is a college kid who was never a “goon”. Another Nelly if you ask me, which is fine, do what you do but DO NOT try to act hard about it like you really a goon, like you really came out from the streets… Oh! And btw, IT IS TRICKIN, EVEN IF YOU GOT IT!!!! You still spending money on a broad!! Wake the fuck up!!! How you gonna be “pimpin” when you spending money on women?? makes no damn sense T.I. and all them other trick niggaz!!! Know what trickin is ya’ll before you start speaking on it……… FYI, for real gnagsta rap, real hood shit- Check out rappers from The Bay Area, Northern Cali. Why do ya’ll thik that the Bay has always been hated on??
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tommybeanspa8 months ago
Man fuck the Gay area it’s all bout D-BLOCK CASSIDY east coast bitch and your raps suck ball’s if you wanna entertain become a comedian because the only thing i find funny is ya raps and i aint laughin wit you B
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r3m1x8 months ago
lol @ “we”. you mean “them” or “they”. silly ass nigga.
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makaveli14908 months ago
50, Plies call himself a goon and went to school for nursing

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callmehdre8 months ago
he is 33 that what was like 10 years 4 he dropped out his 1 year of college and 4 10 years how u know what plies was doin he was being a goon.
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chuckcity8 months ago
plies aint no goon..he a bafoon..trick d already exposed dat nigga. plies got a gun charge once he got known..& he talkin like he the hottest nigga in FL when tha boi only had warrants for unpayed traffic tickets.. wut a klown
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tommybeanspa8 months ago
i’ll tell u whose real STYLES P YO GOTTI SHEEK LOUCH JADA KISS Cam’ron French montana Max B gucci mane juice man not no motha fuckin FIVE OH aka 50cent man he’s bitch fuck him right now he is irrelevant to the game and i think the reason why five oh all on piles’s dick is because he wants to be like him D-BLOCK
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secondson8 months ago
@ makavelli maybe plies went to nursin school to be able to patch niggas up after he got got his goon on. Just a thought homie!
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callmehdre8 months ago
he drop out of college
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jdizz8 months ago
Yawn
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deuce538 months ago
who caaaares bout whos real?! it is entertainment and art! co-sign whoever said that bout eminem not serial killing and wat not, true statement! take it as an art form, not the real life testimonials of errybody involved, cuz u settin urself to b disappointed…from all of them!
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leftyduvall8 months ago
@bambinoorc:

co-sign. everything u said is no news flash to me. I jus wish rappers would be more consistent with their content, pertaining to their character.

I hate it when ppl say hip-hop is jus entertainment tho. did Public Enemy entertain any of you (25+ crowd) when they tried to raise black awareness?

screw that entertainment jazz! those bums can tap dance for these crackers all they want. I want inspiration in my tunes
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r3m1x8 months ago
lol @ still bein racist in 2009. wake up lil nigga.
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moody288 months ago
@ leftfyduvall- WORD!!!!!!
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kingjames2068 months ago
you can always tell when 50 has a album coming out cause he start to say ppl name for no reason…
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leftyduvall8 months ago
@callmehdre:

ok I can dig it but how does that make HIM a real nigga? I mean “real” on Pac’s level.

anybody can write a song about how messed up someone’s life is.

and if he’s soooo real, why’s he gotta keep stressin it?

real recognize real, and I say plies is a puppet! with gold strings attached
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callmehdre8 months ago
He Has A different meaning about real
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theybanme8 months ago
50 cent gets a hard on when he hears plies. but doesnt 50 agree that plies in the new ja rule? seriously what plies is the nigga who always comes with a bitch records then tries to make a gangsta rap album. plies is hood tho exp when he wears that black mask. i think plies would woop fiddies azz…. secretly I sleep with a lil teddy bear with a shirt that says “Bust It Baby”
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theybanme8 months ago
yo gangsta rap is declinin for real im about to go and ride out to " Gimmie dat Becky"
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layzekidd8 months ago
Plies also claims to be a goon, 50.
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leftyduvall8 months ago
@callmehdre:

ok u got me

but to me, real is livin what u rap. but we’re all clear that nobody in the rap game is 100% real
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bambinoorc8 months ago
@ tommybeansPA:
LMAO!! How old are you bruh?? You one of those internet thugs… GO live life bruh. Make something outta yourself, rather than TRYING to be hard on line. Your words don’t move me. D-Block is hard but who are you? Exactly… Now let this marinate in your brain and hopefully motivate you to do something with your life, rather than being on other niggaz nuts and playing the role…….. Word of advise; Don’t go to any city talking that “fuck this” or “fuck your city” cause shit is real out here bruh.
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bambinoorc8 months ago
@leftyduvall:

I feel you on cats needing to be more consistant with their stuff bruh… Now, Maybe I said it wrong, or I did not explain myself correctly but Hip-Hop/Rap is entertainment.. True- Public E.was raising black awareness back in the day but they also wanted to entertian ppl. Tell me what’s the meaning of “shows”. When an artist has a show, what do they do?? You’re going to tell me that P.E. never had any shows? Pac, who rose a “thug” movement didn’t have any shows???

What bums were you referring too in regards to your comment stating that these bums can tap dance all they want for these crackers??

What I’m itno and what I look for in an artist is their LYRICAL content. That’s what Hip-hop was at one point. NIggaz who can spit, right? What ever happened to that?? anyone can make words rhyme…
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fucklilweezy8 months ago
dass y 50 is ma niqqa he always speak da truth…
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